Astra H CIM Fault

[kevfield]

Can anyone help with this one? I have 2005 astra H with fault code P1616-00 CIM (steering column Moduel) wrong environment identifier, the only fault with the car is key buttons dont work unless i remove + from batt, once i have done that buttons work again but car will not start, if i remove + from batt again and reconnect car will start but no buttons work does anyone know if CIM has to be relined or configed?

Thanks kev

[Meat-Head]

no idea, just make sure you tighten the 'bolts' in the underhood fusebox and check the dynamo is not over charging, dude:scarf2:

[Tismot]

Hi, if you post the full VIN then I should be able to look into the logged DTC. HTH

Regards Mark

[kevfield]

Thanks for the help vin=W0L0AHL4868035848

[Ashraf6119]

Hi

1) On Astra CIM there is an Software Updates if you ask your nearest Dealer they migth be able to Confirm you.

2) Some times the Key it self can be faulty so, if you have another key to try it would be good idea.

Hope This Helps

Ash

[kevfield]

Thanks ashraf been talking to a friend at dealer he said it sounds like CIM needs updating so am going to him to see if it solve,s it

Thanks kev

[Ashraf6119]

Hi Kev,

Please keep updating us to know how you getting on with this one as i have been seeing this to be an common problem on Astra's now so it good to know how you end up with this.


PS On other Astra's you will find the problem of Horn not working and some im*obilisers problems but i be-live its all to do with CIM Software updating.

Good Luck
Ash

[Anmed]

Update software helps rare. If you do not help - write to PM, I'll tell you how to repair the CIM. Soldering is required, and direct hands. Works with fault signal and the buttons on the steering wheel.

[Meat-Head]

Update software helps rare. If you do not help - write to PM, I'll tell you how to repair the CIM. Soldering is required, and direct hands. Works with fault signal and the buttons on the steering wheel.

Gon on, spill the beans, you know you want to, be a useful info for DK members

[z786]

i agree, why PM?
can u jus tell us on here, incase we come across it
thanx

[kevfield]

Ok this is where i am up to went to dealer to see my pal for a update on CIM and bingo sort the P1616-00 CIM (steering column Moduel) wrong environment identifier fault so that bits sorted but still i have problem with key buttons not working its looking like ignition switch problem this thinks its still on even when keys out of ignition does anyone kno of this problem??

Thanks kev

[dafdiagnos]

:top:yes m8, had this problem before. i found rcl to work when actuated thru opcom but remote did nothing. i noticed non standard cd head unit still powered up with key out. in end went for cheapest repair option & chopped pos 1 acc wire from rear of barrel & moved round to pos 2 contact. cured fault & customer happy

[Ashraf6119]

Hi

I am glad that you have move one step ahead by updating your CIM Module.......And one problem is now sorted :cheer:

Now can you first confirm if your remote is working fine as its very common those Micro Switches to be Faulty........Second thing can you also confirm when you Switch off the Ignition and when you remove the key from the Ignition Barrel does it click.........Because if your ignition Barrel doesn't click that means the Body Control Module is Sensing the Key is still in the Ignition Switch therefore you Central Locking System will not work.

I Hope This Makes Sense

Ash

[kevfield]

Ok next update, found out what was wrong with it, the barrel did click but body control still thinking that key is in ignition,

So i removed the barrel and found that the small plastic plunger that iactivate,s the key in the ignition switch was seized, so i put some masking tape round the barral so that the tumblers didnt all fall out then flicked out the the small black clip that hold,s the plunger in, pulled plunger out cleaned it, then file round the white stem at the bottem of the plunger so would slide easy in and out of the hole it goes in, then put it all back and job,s 100% took some time to get there but sorted it in the end thanks to you guys for your support.

Thanks kev

[sideeffect]

The CIM's are becoming a common failure with a few problems...

If you get a Astra with the HORN problem try this, works 99% of the time

Turn on lights, adjust interior dimmer all the way up then slowly notch it down while pressing the horn until it works.

Seems theres a voltage supply fault, sure there was a revised harness for it also

[Meat-Head]

The CIM's are becoming a common failure with a few problems...

If you get a Astra with the HORN problem try this, works 99% of the time

Turn on lights, adjust interior dimmer all the way up then slowly notch it down while pressing the horn until it works.

Seems theres a voltage supply fault, sure there was a revised harness for it also

Right, yeah heard some guy talking on his 'cell phone' about this the other day, i had him up the nearset wall in a matter of seconds, muttered something about comon fault, warranty something then he passed out, so i just legged it.

If see him again, will certantly have him up the wall again.

[darksawa]

The CIM's are becoming a common failure with a few problems...

If you get a Astra with the HORN problem try this, works 99% of the time

Turn on lights, adjust interior dimmer all the way up then slowly notch it down while pressing the horn until it works.

Seems theres a voltage supply fault, sure there was a revised harness for it also

This is not a good solution. If you have the HORN problem, you have to disassemble CIM and solder some contacts in it. Look here
http://i069.radikal.ru/0911/2b/fe62adce2467t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i069.radikal.ru/0911/2b/fe62adce2467.jpg.html)
There are 2*9 contacts plug (on the left side), one 6- and one 2-pins plugs on the right. Solder each pin to corresponding contact plate.

[Ashraf6119]

Hi darksawa,

Can you please mark on which pins need re-soldering.

Thanks


Ash

[Anmed]

Connector on the left and right marked with black.:wink:

[rsibiza]

Connector on the left and right marked with black.:wink:


This is the way to do here M8:rock:,not by PM

[Jonny755]

Hello, I am new and I do the post before downloading, I also have the same problem Regards Jonny:giveup:

[Anmed]

Presented earlier information was wrong! I beg your pardon! The photo shows the source of the problem. Restore or duplicate.

[racin-snake]

seen the vectra cim full if green crud
a quick clean with ipa a splash of flux and a re heat does the trick
usually commes with no ecm coms code
HTH

[TY999]

Horn cause of defect
1: to Solder socket contacts on payment CIM
2: to bend contacts in a black socket on payment CIM. Or tin-plate pins which to it are interposed
3: to Correct a plait of wires the uniter of the button on a wheel and the signal button (for example so: on the button of a signal the wire should go separately, instead of through all sockets of buttons of a wheel)
4: From the signal button to make an additional wire on electrical mass of a steering wheel

Cause of defect - arising from time (oxides / salts) electrical the resistor of contacts in sockets.

Only one solution does not exist, complex correction is necessary

http://www.astraclub.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2789411#2789411

sory my english not good

[KFL]

I have CIM SW version --.57 Field Remedy says that --.62 is available. (TIS DVD 56)
I didn't noticed any important problem. Anyway, do you recommend CIM SW upgrade?

[TY999]

All CIM have a construction defect. This mistake of the developer . The official decision is not correct (the firmware update and installing additional mounting brackets in the form of metal does not guarantee the desired effect)

[ninja123]

Any one know if the p1616 fault will stop key being read? or do i just have a faulty key as well as a strange fault code?
regards the ninja