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diagnoza_auto2000
27th October, 2010, 12:09 PM
Hello to evryone,i have one problem with one Mercedes Vito year 2000 engine 220 CDI.
Eror code :P1622 y75 shut off valve.
Engine its not go up more then 3000 rpm.

Anyone can help me where its located this y75 shut off valve?
When i activate from HHT shut off valve for stop engine,engine still running.

Thank you .

kool_mi
27th October, 2010, 12:17 PM
you must change the ecu edc 15

diagnoza_auto2000
27th October, 2010, 12:20 PM
Its the only solution?

vanos batam
27th October, 2010, 12:24 PM
Its the only solution?
alternator charge voltase????

diagnoza_auto2000
27th October, 2010, 12:25 PM
Yes it is 14V

vanos batam
27th October, 2010, 12:36 PM
TDC adn CKP are ok?

diagnoza_auto2000
27th October, 2010, 12:38 PM
What you mean TDC and CKP?

vanos batam
27th October, 2010, 12:45 PM
What you mean TDC and CKP?

top death censor & crankshaft censor..if are ok
may be ecu fault

diagnoza_auto2000
27th October, 2010, 12:46 PM
yes are ok the sensors

Larue
27th October, 2010, 01:40 PM
Some time ago I had problem with some Sprinter with same engine and EDC15 engine management system. Had changed that solenoid with no result. After checking all things, it's turned up to be ECU fault. Then I rang Mercedes dealer and asked about reprogramming ECU with software version with no fuel shutoff valve and van went to them. After they did reprogramming, fault was still there....was messing after that with that van and after reconnecting the ECU fault just dissapeared. So...it's driving nearly year with the same ECU with no problems.
Hope this helps.

CarmasterAndrew
27th October, 2010, 01:56 PM
Hello to evryone,i have one problem with one Mercedes Vito year 2000 engine 220 CDI.
Eror code :P1622 y75 shut off valve.
Engine its not go up more then 3000 rpm.

Anyone can help me where its located this y75 shut off valve?
When i activate from HHT shut off valve for stop engine,engine still running.

Thank you .

Well m8 , if the error code begins active after ignition is on, you have to check wires, or ECU . If the error code which by the way could deleted only when the vehicle is warm and motor is working,
and the later appeared on again, I think the problem is in the high pressure pump

weryo
27th October, 2010, 05:17 PM
It is 100% the high pressure pump,Master Andrew!
He just need to do some tests and to understand it clearly!

Sometimes engine ecu fails,..but it is not so common!
The wires could cause the troubles but not so common too!
But the high pressure intake little 'piece of shit ' could make you very nervous ,swearing around all the oil /fuel companies!

raints
27th October, 2010, 05:48 PM
It is 100% the high pressure pump,Master Andrew!
He just need to do some tests and to understand it clearly!

Sometimes engine ecu fails,..but it is not so common!
The wires could cause the troubles but not so common too!
But the high pressure intake little 'piece of shit ' could make you very nervous ,swearing around all the oil /fuel companies!

I agree whit you Weryo.

diagnoza_auto2000
27th October, 2010, 06:10 PM
Thank you all for good answers,sow how i see can be Ecu or High presure pump.
How can i some tests to be sure wich is the problem exactly.
But for exemple :
I erase the code,and then the car its working perfectly,i can drive how much i want but if i stop the engine 2-3 times DTC will come again,EDC light too and car go in lip mode(no more then 3000rpm)

I use Star Diagnosis for comunicate withe the car,but its a 638 model and its working on HHT and you can not see there sow many thinks.
Thank you again

Larue
27th October, 2010, 09:17 PM
Thank you all for good answers,sow how i see can be Ecu or High presure pump.
How can i some tests to be sure wich is the problem exactly.
But for exemple :
I erase the code,and then the car its working perfectly,i can drive how much i want but if i stop the engine 2-3 times DTC will come again,EDC light too and car go in lip mode(no more then 3000rpm)

I use Star Diagnosis for comunicate withe the car,but its a 638 model and its working on HHT and you can not see there sow many thinks.
Thank you again
There are some files from uncle Robert. Not a lot, but hopefully some help. They are Microsoft XPS files, needs XPS viewer. Opens in windows Explorer.
This is not easy job. Quite difficult to suggest something. I would start from wiring checks and then from cheapest option.

snelle rabbit
27th October, 2010, 09:35 PM
There are some files from uncle Robert. Not a lot, but hopefully some help. They are Microsoft XPS files, needs XPS viewer. Opens in windows Explorer.
This is not easy job. Quite difficult to suggest something. I would start from wiring checks and then from cheapest option.


hi,

if the motor is running, you take of the connection, from the stop valve.(its a 2 pins connection next the high pressure fuel pump).
if the motor stops, then i am wrong and its another problem, but.

i guess the motor will not stop.

if this is the case, youre return valve in youre high pressure pump is leaking back.

in this case remove high pressure pump and check the valve.
it`s in the intake where you connect the LOW pressure fuel line.

if cleaning wont help. renew high pressure pump.

i am pretty sure this is the problem, but not for 100%


greetings:ridinghorse:

garageozcar
27th October, 2010, 11:20 PM
i know how repair PM by eprom file

daniel sg
28th October, 2010, 12:29 AM
May be your thortle valve censor not ok.

milanovic
28th October, 2010, 02:06 AM
I get problems same before .
But only repair the alternator. When 3500 RPM it is 16 V.
Then 1000 RPM 13-14 V.

diagnoza_auto2000
28th October, 2010, 05:25 AM
hi,

if the motor is running, you take of the connection, from the stop valve.(its a 2 pins connection next the high pressure fuel pump).
if the motor stops, then i am wrong and its another problem, but.

i guess the motor will not stop.

if this is the case, youre return valve in youre high pressure pump is leaking back.

in this case remove high pressure pump and check the valve.
it`s in the intake where you connect the LOW pressure fuel line.

if cleaning wont help. renew high pressure pump.

i am pretty sure this is the problem, but not for 100%


greetings:ridinghorse:
When i remove this conector,motor its stop .I have try this already.

mercis
28th October, 2010, 06:07 AM
you can delete this errorcode over 60 C
all electric wire and ecu OK.
open high pressure pump,and check little valve
for low pressure,
you want,i can send picture
100%

diagnoza_auto2000
28th October, 2010, 06:49 AM
you can delete this errorcode over 60 C
all electric wire and ecu OK.
open high pressure pump,and check little valve
for low pressure,
you want,i can send picture
100%

If you have one picture will be good.

Thank you

mercis
28th October, 2010, 10:37 AM
after motorstop,check ecu low pressure side
with this valve,blocking this,have your errorcode

diagnoza_auto2000
28th October, 2010, 01:10 PM
Ok sow i cannot understand why when i activate shut off valve from DAS engine its not stop...
I have good high presure pump here and put on the car for test and same result .

I erase the code and its working good,dtc its come again only when i stop the car and start again.

mercis
28th October, 2010, 03:04 PM
Ok sow i cannot understand why when i activate shut off valve from DAS engine its not stop...
I have good high presure pump here and put on the car for test and same result .

I erase the code and its working good,dtc its come again only when i stop the car and start again.

100% high pressure pump.
this valve,see picture blockt.
you can erase error,okay
after engine stop,check your computer low press side,
cant valve move.

diagnoza_auto2000
28th October, 2010, 05:03 PM
I already try with a good pump and same dtc come out.

There is a solution to reprog ecu with a hex without shut off valve?

finixservice
28th October, 2010, 05:53 PM
READ 5P08 AND POST HERE.

diagnoza_auto2000
28th October, 2010, 06:16 PM
Thanks,tomorow i get ou the ecu and read and post the dump.Thank you

treo
28th October, 2010, 06:29 PM
I have same problem on Vito cdi year 2000
I check valve wiring everthing ok
I simulate valve with a resistor and erase error with diag tool for several times and error disapear,car works fine for 1 month after that error apears again and disapear it self.
I think ECU is damaged.

diagnoza_auto2000
28th October, 2010, 06:38 PM
I have same problem on Vito cdi year 2000
I check valve wiring everthing ok
I simulate valve with a resistor and erase error with diag tool for several times and error disapear,car works fine for 1 month after that error apears again and disapear it self.
I think ECU is damaged.

I think at this ideea too cause its chep solution,what resistor you have put? Same value as the valve?

Thank you

Larue
28th October, 2010, 07:21 PM
So.....maybe let's get clear with this. Seems to Me we are talking about different things. In my opinion Fuel shutoff valve is bolted separatly on the engine with two pipes on it. One incoming, another outgoing. So...if You mean third piston shutoff solenoid - this stuff is bolted on fuel rail pump.
I might be wrong, but I'm talking about fuel shutoff valve.
There is a programming version without it in main dealerships and of course somebody can remove it manually from EEPROM.
I'm not so high advanced in this....sorry mate.

diagnoza_auto2000
28th October, 2010, 07:42 PM
So.....maybe let's get clear with this. Seems to Me we are talking about different things. In my opinion Fuel shutoff valve is bolted separatly on the engine with two pipes on it. One incoming, another outgoing. So...if You mean third piston shutoff solenoid - this stuff is bolted on fuel rail pump.
I might be wrong, but I'm talking about fuel shutoff valve.
There is a programming version without it in main dealerships and of course somebody can remove it manually from EEPROM.
I'm not so high advanced in this....sorry mate.

How i said before ,when i activate actuator for shut off valve ,engine its still runing .
Dtc is p1622 Y75 shut off valve sow cannot be the solenoid.
I have documentation from Bosch too and there shut off valve its with 3 pipes but that valve its new on the car too.
Bosch say that is the shut off valve but when i remove the electric conector in ecu come the fault boost presure sensor,sow its not the shut off valve in my opinion.


I am a little in fog...

Larue
28th October, 2010, 07:58 PM
That's a good one.... Have You checked on rail pressure pump for third piston shutoff valve? I guess it's not there.
Funny one.
Are You sure about vehicle/VIN number selection? It's might be worth to try another diagnostic tool.
To be honest.....this story sounds about the same as My nightmare with Sprinter.

treo
28th October, 2010, 08:07 PM
I think at this ideea too cause its chep solution,what resistor you have put? Same value as the valve?

Thank you
Around 10 ohms is value of rezistor.
Aceeiasi eroare 1622 am intilnit si eu la vito cdi
Dupa ce am verificat valva am verificat firele am verificat tensiunea pe valva ,dupa oprirea motorului pe valva apare 12v pt 3-4 sec.

diagnoza_auto2000
29th October, 2010, 05:20 AM
That's a good one.... Have You checked on rail pressure pump for third piston shutoff valve? I guess it's not there.
Funny one.
Are You sure about vehicle/VIN number selection? It's might be worth to try another diagnostic tool.
To be honest.....this story sounds about the same as My nightmare with Sprinter.

Yes i am sure about vin ,and evrything its there i understand now ,cause i am not the mecanic i only was called for diagnostic and the boy who work on the car put me in fog because he say this car not have shut off valve, but have!

I will try to replace by a 10 ohm resistor,but by editing hex file will be bether.

Merci mult,

Thank you m8:congrats:

knok
29th October, 2010, 06:52 AM
Yes i am sure about vin ,and evrything its there i understand now ,cause i am not the mecanic i only was called for diagnostic and the boy who work on the car put me in fog because he say this car not have shut off valve, but have!

I will try to replace by a 10 ohm resistor,but by editing hex file will be bether.

Merci mult,

Thank you m8:congrats:

better way is to replace your ecu with good one and then will see if that is the problem or other ...

diagnoza_auto2000
29th October, 2010, 07:08 AM
Yes,sure but until now i don t find one for this car.

diagnoza_auto2000
29th October, 2010, 11:38 AM
I check now the wires and are ok voltage always 7.5 V even when i activate not arrive to 12V sow i think ECU have some problems

diagnoza_auto2000
29th October, 2010, 01:15 PM
READ 5P08 AND POST HERE.

Hi i open but i don't find 5p08

mercis
29th October, 2010, 04:25 PM
dear friend,vito have 24c04,

diagnoza_auto2000
30th October, 2010, 07:37 AM
dear friend,vito have 24c04,


Yes is true but somone here tell me to look for 5p08

I will read and post here dump from 24c04,you can help me Mercis?

mercis
30th October, 2010, 07:47 AM
Yes is true but somone here tell me to look for 5p08

I will read and post here dump from 24c04,you can help me Mercis?
you have trouble inside the pump
you can me believe,i make 20 year "shit mb"
you can delete errorcode,after motor run and stop
coming errorcode back,
wenn ecu damage,you cant erase error.
this little valve must easy move,see picture from me,

diagnoza_auto2000
30th October, 2010, 07:50 AM
Yes ,but already try with another pump and same error code

weryo
30th October, 2010, 08:47 AM
was it easy to change the original high pressure pump with the other one?
Did you check the intake valve free movement of the other pump before installing it?

Another tip:
When engine is idling,please press/clip the intake fuel hose to fuel filter using clippers,...and wait for a minute!
If the engine is still idling ,..be sure your high pressure pump intake valve is blocked and it feeds from the return fuel .

The main idea of shut-off valve is to stop the fuel amount in case you are in accident and airbag system is activated.
Then airbag control module sends an emergency signal to the engine ecu to cut the fuel off,to prevent fire of fuel leakage or at least engine damage caused by overforcing.

That's why the software inside the engine ecu always checks the shut-off valve when you stop the engine.
If shut off function not working,..the engine ecu stops the engine by another way/injectors signal/,...and immediately registers the fault code P1622.

All these things are written in WIS and they are true!


As a lot of people here were written,...if ecu is faulty,..the fault code will never be erased,..and into your ecu you could see some blown diodes and melted area on the plate PCB near the connector.

Good luck!

diagnoza_auto2000
30th October, 2010, 01:12 PM
I will try to press intake fuel near the fuel filer and i report.
But how you said Ecu store the fault when i stop because shut off valve its not working,i replace shut off valve by one 10 ohm resistor and same think hapen.

I will check that diodes too,thank you m8

weryo
30th October, 2010, 03:44 PM
Probably your shut-off valve is working,..and you must have been checked already that ,....these had to be your first checks before asking for help here!
probably you checked the wires and ecu plate either!

But you say nothing about the little intake valve in high pressure pump!
Is it blocked or not?

The engine ecu always checks if engine is stopped by the shut-off valve or not,...and if not,...ooops,..P1622 and emergency mode!
No mater what you connect to the connector,..resistor,valve,..or something which could imitate it,....you will always get the fault code P1622 because the shut-off function was not accomplished.

Good luck!

diagnoza_auto2000
30th October, 2010, 05:06 PM
Probably your shut-off valve is working,..and you must have been checked already that ,....these had to be your first checks before asking for help here!
probably you checked the wires and ecu plate either!

But you say nothing about the little intake valve in high pressure pump!
Is it blocked or not?

The engine ecu always checks if engine is stopped by the shut-off valve or not,...and if not,...ooops,..P1622 and emergency mode!
No mater what you connect to the connector,..resistor,valve,..or something which could imitate it,....you will always get the fault code P1622 because the shut-off function was not accomplished.

Good luck!

Thanks man for your professional answers this wrilly help.
Monday the macanic will open the high pressure pump and will check the valve.They have changed before the high pressure pump but they are not sure about another if was good or not.
I am not mecanic i only help them with diagnostic tools.
Monday i will report.
Thank all for help:champions:

mercis
30th October, 2010, 05:34 PM
oh yeah,and erase over 60 celsius

diagnoza_auto2000
1st November, 2010, 12:28 PM
We have dismount from the car the high pressure pump and we can see the valve inside ,that mercis show me in picture.
How can i know if its bloked or not?

mercis
1st November, 2010, 12:55 PM
see my picture,valve must easy move

diagnoza_auto2000
1st November, 2010, 01:03 PM
Its blocked down my friend,how can i unlock ?

Poptest
1st November, 2010, 01:41 PM
I hope this information helps.

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diagnoza_auto2000
1st November, 2010, 05:02 PM
I unlock the valve inside the pump,now its easy move,and now car its stop when i press the fuel pipe,before car still running,sow good work.
But erroc code (shut off valve y75) is still there ,i erase and he come back after 3 times of stop the car.
Tomorow i change again shut off valve Y75 and i report.
Thank you

loisicar
1st November, 2010, 06:45 PM
im working to much on BMW mercedes

if Y75 is dammaged it stay dammaged and can not erase with star ,just erase and restart engine fault becomes or can not erase and EDC light apppear again
the problem is ECU , it take this shock when some wire from Y75 are shorcuted ,
replace EDC15 by another one
take care if you bring used one there is two kind of flash inside
one type with Y75 , other type without y75

mercis
1st November, 2010, 07:09 PM
flash without Y75

diagnoza_auto2000
1st November, 2010, 07:50 PM
flash without Y75

! C:\Users\Asus\Desktop\vito108 No Elab.zip:
Either multipart or corrupt ZIP archive

loisicar
1st November, 2010, 08:36 PM
hope can help

diagnoza_auto2000
3rd November, 2010, 06:07 PM
I change the ECU and car work good now ,sow ecu was failed.Maiby some cdi drivers inside are broken.
But i will not try to repair i find one from another crashed car and evrything is ok.
Thank you to all the persons that help me for solve my problem.

weryo
3rd November, 2010, 09:57 PM
did you change something inside the used ecu?

diagnoza_auto2000
4th November, 2010, 06:10 AM
I put ECU ,immo box and the t5 from key from another car,cause i heard only like this its working..

MarkPRP
13th November, 2010, 01:38 PM
SWapped 24c04 chip to new ecu and all work ok!

I have this problem with a van I bought today, but it revs to 4500 so no limp mode!

Will inspect and report with finding!

diagnoza_auto2000
13th November, 2010, 02:15 PM
With another ECU,immo and t5 car come back after 2 weeks with same error.
Y75 shut off valve
Maiby we can find a pair dump immo+ecu without ELAB(y75)

trigital
13th November, 2010, 09:41 PM
With another ECU,immo and t5 car come back after 2 weeks with same error.
Y75 shut off valve
Maiby we can find a pair dump immo+ecu without ELAB(y75)

Reprogram only the flash.

diagnoza_auto2000
15th November, 2010, 11:57 AM
I reprog flash with dump without Elab,car start but run only few seconds then stop.
I found one DTC :
Control module not coded,i try to code with some Vito code that i have it from before ,but DTC remain there.

DJAMY
15th November, 2010, 05:00 PM
here is tested files
work perfect

check wires of y75 , when they are shorcuted , it will be source of your problem
this ECU is so fragile with shorcut especialy y75
take care

diagnoza_auto2000
15th November, 2010, 05:19 PM
here is tested files
work perfect

check wires of y75 , when they are shorcuted , it will be source of your problem
this ECU is so fragile with shorcut especialy y75
take care

Thanks m8,you think i must virginise 24c04 too?

diagnoza_auto2000
20th November, 2010, 09:22 AM
Car start only 2 seconds then stop,i think dumpr from immo its need too.

kaToo
18th October, 2011, 10:30 PM
Car start only 2 seconds then stop,i think dumpr from immo its need too.

I have a vito with burned ecu i have put a new ecu and code it with star but the car start only for 2seconds and it stops

It is saying control module not coded ?

Can anyone help me what to do ??

THANKS

diagnoza_auto2000
19th October, 2011, 06:26 AM
You not coded corectly,take a look on EPC and code exactly.
Do you change the wsp to?

kaToo
20th October, 2011, 11:06 AM
hi
i made it virging using immo killer
than i go to car and try start but it dosent crank
than i code ecu with star and car start cranking
Sometimes it start for 3-4 seconds than shut off

ssilvviu
29th September, 2016, 05:07 PM
I need Y75 removal (no elab) and codding to manual transmission for a Mercedes Vito.
Could you help me?
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