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z786
5th December, 2010, 05:31 PM
Hi
i have a zafira here thats had intermittant start problem before
now it is completly immobilised and the spanner light flashes

there are no error codes in immo just ecu

P0650 - IPC Message range/Performance (Instrument)
(70) - Present
P1613 - Immobiliser No Or Wrong Signal
(00) - Present
P1614 - Wrong Transponder Key
(50) - Not present
U2108 - <Unknown DTC>
(70) - Not present
U2139 - CAN-Bus No Communication with CIM (Steering Column Module)
(70) - Not present

after clearing them only 1 came back

P1613 - Immobiliser No Or Wrong Signal
(00) - Present


any ideas????


thanks

racin-snake
5th December, 2010, 05:48 PM
U2139 - CAN-Bus No Communication with CIM (Steering Column Module)


investigate this code mate check cim module wiring and board ans see if it will communicate

the immo has to use the cim to send key data to ecu ect
i have seen a few of thes e cim modules get wet and damp inside too
hope it helps pall

Liteace
5th December, 2010, 05:53 PM
Disconnect battery, give it a good charge for more than an hour, reconnect and it should start

Ashraf6119
5th December, 2010, 05:58 PM
Hi
i have a zafira here thats had intermittant start problem before
now it is completly immobilised and the spanner light flashes

there are no error codes in immo just ecu

P0650 - IPC Message range/Performance (Instrument)
(70) - Present
P1613 - Immobiliser No Or Wrong Signal
(00) - Present
P1614 - Wrong Transponder Key
(50) - Not present
U2108 - <Unknown DTC>
(70) - Not present
U2139 - CAN-Bus No Communication with CIM (Steering Column Module)
(70) - Not present

after clearing them only 1 came back

P1613 - Immobiliser No Or Wrong Signal
(00) - Present


any ideas????


thanks

Hi

To me this looks like the present key you using is intermittent faulty which is a common fault.

Try another key if you have it or, open the key and resolder all the dry joints in there, or new key should sort your problem.

Hope this helps.

Ash

z786
5th December, 2010, 07:10 PM
hi thanks for that, battery is on charge.
no spare keys so gna open up the key, isnt there a transponder inside rather that an antenna?

also if it was the key wouldnt it have said it in immo?

Patrian
5th December, 2010, 08:03 PM
After clearing them only 1 came back

P1613 - Immobiliser No Or Wrong Signal
(00) - Present

Any ideas????

Thanks

Hello there... :ciao:

Well m8, it seems the problem it will been little "Expensive"... :(

Take a look here on the Attachment and i wishing you for the BESTS!!! :)

Good Luck! :top:

Best X-Mas Regards! :santaclaus:

racin-snake
5th December, 2010, 09:21 PM
not sure exactly but i think the arial or transducer is a seperate part from the cim on these as opposed to astra h ect
but cim communication is vital so code dictates id look in there
especially if there is no tech 2 or midi to fall back on

Ashraf6119
5th December, 2010, 09:30 PM
hi thanks for that, battery is on charge.
no spare keys so gna open up the key, isnt there a transponder inside rather that an antenna?

also if it was the key wouldnt it have said it in immo?


Hi

If I remember well Zafira's 2006 they have Electronic Transponders Build in the Circuit Board like the New Vectra's and Astra's with the Cim Modules.

Ash

Meat-Head
5th December, 2010, 09:39 PM
Why is it round here, you spend ALL DAY on here, nothing exciting, so for a bath, comeback missed a decent thread.

Just for reference CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS.

1) Had a Merivia in 2005 - intermittant - but 'fault always there'
run two mins, lost tacho, no start 3 present faults

2) let it cool, 3 intermittant fauls (same 3) it starts.

3) Warmed engine ecu with oxy acetylene gas - fault occurs - ecu dud.

4) Under circumstamnces subscribe to thread 'remote key tester'
go to scrap yard and down load a FIAT immo pick up - bang led on it, place key through it, tests if key/transponder working, flashes once if ok, constant for few seconds, goes out.

(5) Pain in middle of chest still there)

HTH

Meat

z786
6th December, 2010, 01:56 PM
have tried another key, its not working............

isit a fault CIM or something else

if a fault CIM isit reparable?

thanks

stampede
6th December, 2010, 03:45 PM
The CIM module on the earlier Zafira B's/Astra H's is known to be a common problem. Might need replacement.

z786
6th December, 2010, 06:12 PM
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<SOLVED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Was a dead battery in car :)

thanks for evry1s help

Meat-Head
6th December, 2010, 07:53 PM
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<SOLVED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Was a dead battery in car :)

thanks for evry1s help

That's odd you 'finishing' a thread

1) Put these words into order:-

dumb is fcuk somebody a

2) What are them numbers under your siggy?
member racinsnake has some simular numbers?

Meat

Liteace
6th December, 2010, 08:01 PM
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<SOLVED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Was a dead battery in car :)

thanks for evry1s help

What happens is, they've got all this electronic bolix on them BUT if the battery drops down a bit the immo ecu stores the last code from the key (rolling code) so next time you try and start the car it dont, they you scan it up come a loads of codes you think WTF where do I go from here all for a low battery, dont forget I know ~~~~ ALL but Im glad you got it sorted

z786
6th December, 2010, 08:46 PM
That's odd you 'finishing' a thread

i knw, very strange

1) Put these words into order:-

dumb is fcuk somebody a

erm, pass? lol

2) What are them numbers under your siggy?
member racinsnake has some simular numbers?

its styl my old sig, the thing is the forum server cant handle special characters anymore, and i cant be asked to change it lol

marouane
29th November, 2011, 01:42 PM
can anyone helpmi with immo off for zafira B 0281012549 thanks in advence