ISO to WBFS file on NTSC question

[N8Parks]

I have a game file. Let's call it GAME.iso. Instead of burning it to disc, can I simply change the file extension to .wbfs and drop it on my ntsc formatted hdd and play it through wiiflow or usbloader gx or comparable loader? Or do I need software to do something to it for me?

I've already gone to wiitdb and found the corresponding [xxxxxx] name so it will recognize it and load the cover art, but I'm leery to try it out as I don't want to F-up anything.

Thoughts anyone?

[happy_highlander]

If your hdd is formatted to wbfs use wbfs manager all you do is plug in your hdd to pc, open wbfs manager and select the iso on the pc, select to add it to hdd and the manager will do the rest.... By the way wbfs manager is in the downloads section

[N8Parks]

my hdd is formatted ntsc
wiiflow and usbloader gx save the game files with a .wbfs extension within a wbfs labeled folder
I no longer use a wbfs formatted hdd

[Keithuk]

Now I've never used a NTFS formatted drive I've always used a WBFS formatted drive. WBFS Manager will only load iso files it won't load .wbfs files. I use Wii Game Manager 1.5.0.2 to open the wbfs file and convert it to an iso file.

Google it.

[happy_highlander]

my hdd is formatted ntsc
wiiflow and usbloader gx save the game files with a .wbfs extension within a wbfs labeled folder
I no longer use a wbfs formatted hdd
Digital Kaos - Downloads - wii backupmanager 0.3.beta1 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/downloads/wii/16/wii-backupmanager-0-3-beta1-1496/) this will add your iso to an ntsc formatted drive in the correct format for the wii to read. Same procedure as wbfs manager connect hdd open manager add game to drive

[N8Parks]

Trying it now. Thanks.

Flawless. Effortless. Priceless.

[N8Parks]

Ok. Maybe I'm doing something wrong here. Gone to binload, grabbed a file from the correct region, unpacked it, got an .iso file. Used wii backupmanager 0.3.beta1 to convert it to a .wbfs extension, put it in games folder on hdd, selected it and I can hear the game music and see the wii remote warning ... even goes to game publisher ... then black screened.

Any other suggestions?

[ck-ok]

Ok. Maybe I'm doing something wrong here. Gone to binload, grabbed a file from the correct region, unpacked it, got an .iso file. Used wii backupmanager 0.3.beta1 to convert it to a .wbfs extension, put it in games folder on hdd, selected it and I can hear the game music and see the wii remote warning ... even goes to game publisher ... then black screened.

Any other suggestions?

what game is it?

[N8Parks]

tangled, super mario galaxy 2, driver parallel lines, overlord dark legend, and a few others. It's not an isolated thing.

AH HAH! Nevermind. New Problem. It looks like the .iso's have been scrubbed. What does that mean, and what do I do now?


?????? Super.Mario.Galaxy.2.USA.PROPER.Wii-HaZMaT ???????
????? ??????
????? ?????
????? ?????
????? The iND release is scrubbed and nuked this is a real dump ?????
????? from a trusted source. Cover included. ?????
???? ????
???? -HaZMaT Team- ????

Sorry for so many questions.

[happy_highlander]

tangled, super mario galaxy 2, driver parallel lines, overlord dark legend, and a few others. It's not an isolated thing.

AH HAH! Nevermind. New Problem. It looks like the .iso's have been scrubbed. What does that mean, and what do I do now?


?????? Super.Mario.Galaxy.2.USA.PROPER.Wii-HaZMaT ???????
????? ??????
????? ?????
????? ?????
????? The iND release is scrubbed and nuked this is a real dump ?????
????? from a trusted source. Cover included. ?????
???? ????
???? -HaZMaT Team- ????

Sorry for so many questions.

Scrubbed just means that the file has had all the unnecessary zeros removed......I'll explain this.....if you look at the size of the wbfs file on your hdd they are all different file sizes which is the true size of the game but if you look at ANY game (not dual layer) iso it will be 4.37 gb this is because the file has been filled with zeros to fit the dvd it has been ripped from, and the games you mention will all work if you download the driver fix file from the driver thread and install both usb loader gx wad and cios 249 installer wad following the instructions in the fix file, just install the scrubbed file same as you would any other iso. If you find that your scrubbed file is a password protected rar file and you can't find the password give me a shout and I'll give you a very educated guess at the password

[N8Parks]

I already have usb loader gx and cios 249 installer wad. The thing is that the only games I've put on my wii hdd are from factory copies and copied using either wiiflow or usb loader gx. I've never done this like this before. Here's a screen capture of what's going on on my end.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7963/isoandwbfsfilespic.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/64/isoandwbfsfilespic.jpg/)

Am I to just put the whole folder containing the .iso game like this? The top folder is my external hdd for the wii, the lower is the folder containing the .iso game.

[N8Parks]

Ok, found this in another thread. I feel like an idiot now.



try this
The Official ImgBurn Website (http://www.imgburn.com/)

[Keithuk]

Yes ImgBurn just burns the iso to a DVD. I thought you weren't playing DVDs?

[N8Parks]

I'm not. Can't figure out how to make these things work for me.

[Keithuk]

Well as I've said I've never used a NTFS drive but I would assume you just copy the game iso to the drive root rather than a Mario game making a Mario folder and putting the iso in there. I don't think it matters what the name of the iso is because your USB Loader will sort it.

If I rename an iso to xyz.iso and load in into WBFS it still shows the name of the game so it must extract this info from the iso but you can rename that part to suit your needs.

I'm sure there must be a tutorial on here somewhere?

[N8Parks]

My versions of all loaders that use NTSC formatted drives save the games as xyz.wbfs not xyz.iso. (I don't have another ext hdd to try anything in WBFS format, although I'm not too far along to wipe out everything and start again. It's only a 300g hdd.) Got the binload files, opened with 7zip and tried with the list of things below.

Here's what I've tried so far with 11 different titles with the results:


Change the extension from .iso to .wbfs manually, put in games folder on wii ext hdd, open game in usbloader gx - (Boot dump ... Ignorant & FAIL)
Try to use Wii Game Manager v1.5.02 to convert extension for me with this error message - http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9017/isosizeerror.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/99/isosizeerror.jpg/) (also FAIL)
Use Wii Backup Manager v0.3.5Beta1 to convert .iso to .wbfs - (Success, but only see title and title sound track, and on some games I get a loading screen but mostly black screened)
Use InfraRecorder to burn .iso image to disc. I see the game with loaders as well as on the wii menu. I go to install with mixed results. - (Sometime they stall around 75%-90% permanently or they complete install only to have the disc or game install blackscreen me in the end.)
Pull out hair and whine like a spoiled school girl - (Also FAIL)
Scratching head and googling a lot.................

[Keithuk]

Change the extension from .iso to .wbfs manually, put in games folder on wii ext hdd, open game in usbloader gx - (Boot dump ... Ignorant & FAIL)


You can't just change a file extension to suit your needs as every file has a different format/layout as your error message shows.

Now if all your downloads are wbfs format which is unusual then you are going to have to convert each file with Wii Game Manager v1.5.02 to an iso before you can load it on a drive with WBFS Manager.

[N8Parks]

3. Use Wii Backup Manager v0.3.5Beta1 to convert .iso to .wbfs - (Success, but only see title and title sound track, and on some games I get a loading screen but mostly black screened)

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Odd ... Quoting myself here ...

I think I may have figured it out. Testing now. My ext pc hdd I have been using was formatted to FAT32, hense the reason my 4+ gb files weren't saving properly. I have converted it to NTSC format now and I'm re-downloading binload file now to try once more.

Guessing everything should work properly now ...

[happy_highlander]

Odd ... Quoting myself here ...

I think I may have figured it out. Testing now. My ext pc hdd I have been using was formatted to FAT32, hense the reason my 4+ gb files weren't saving properly. I have converted it to NTSC format now and I'm re-downloading binload file now to try once more.

Guessing everything should work properly now ...

Backup manager splits the files automatically for you if you are formatted to fat 32. I think the problem you are having is cios related....If your older games work but your new ones don't.....What softmod did you use and are you using the d2x cios pack..if you are that is why the driver fix did not work for you

[N8Parks]

Modded with this: Guide: Softmod ANY Wii (http://www.wiihacks.com/recommended-faqs-guides-tutorials-only/60921-guide-softmod-any-wii.html)

Did the d2x cios pack (oddly some games still only work in usbloader gx and not in wiiflow.

Turns out that this entire thread could have been avoided if I would have just converted my pc drive from FAT32 to NTSC. I have binload opening the .rar for me recreating the .ios file automatically. Being that the drive it was trying to save it on was FAT32 it was coming back with errors. Not as a NTSC drive, everything including Wii Backup Manager (etc) are functioning properly.

All I can say is, "at least I'm learning something and starting to understand what the hell I'm doing".

Thanks Everyone for being patient with me.

[happy_highlander]

Modded with this: Guide: Softmod ANY Wii (http://www.wiihacks.com/recommended-faqs-guides-tutorials-only/60921-guide-softmod-any-wii.html)

Did the d2x cios pack (oddly some games still only work in usbloader gx and not in wiiflow.

Turns out that this entire thread could have been avoided if I would have just converted my pc drive from FAT32 to NTSC. I have binload opening the .rar for me recreating the .ios file automatically. Being that the drive it was trying to save it on was FAT32 it was coming back with errors. Not as a NTSC drive, everything including Wii Backup Manager (etc) are functioning properly.

All I can say is, "at least I'm learning something and starting to understand what the hell I'm doing".

Thanks Everyone for being patient with me.
Now I see where you had us all confused we were giving you info for the wii softmod from this site and you were using one from another site that uses completly different cios wads...The two different sets of cios wads do not work together...I will try to remember that you are using the d2x cios for your main cios settings and don't know if this is of any use but here are the version 7 d2x cios Digital Kaos - Downloads - d2xv7 wad pack (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/downloads/wii/16/d2xv7-wad-pack-1782/) now I haven't used these myself but they come from the same source the v6 wads you have used on your softmod. You may not want to use them just yet until you have read a bit more about them as I picked these up before the changelog was released so I don't what has been improved but as much info on them as I have is that there is no major changes from v6 to v7 just some bug fixes. and the fact that some games only work in gx is because the d2x cios wads seem to be built around gx as the preffered loader. It may not be a bad thing that the guys developing these cios are concentrating on making them work particularly well with one loader but it does limit our choices as with gx you must have an hdd plugged in to start it up meaning people loading from disc can't use it so they are gonna be a bit screwed if htey have done a softmod with the d2x wads

[Keithuk]

My ext pc hdd I have been using was formatted to FAT32, hense the reason my 4+ gb files weren't saving properly. I have converted it to NTSC format now

You mean NTFS as NTSC is a DVD format?

[N8Parks]

Yes. Sorry. I meant NTFS. So many abbreviations, so little time.

[happy_highlander]

Yes. Sorry. I meant NTFS. So many abbreviations, so little time.

We all knew what you meant m8 but keith doesn't get to correct many people lol

[Keithuk]

Sorry that wasn't a criticism there are NTSC games which are mainly for the US market but they still play without fault on my PAL system of the HDD without any setup adjustments, I have 12 of them on my HDD.

[happy_highlander]

Sorry that wasn't a criticism there are NTSC games which are mainly for the US market but they still play without fault on my PAL system of the HDD without any setup adjustments, I have 12 of them on my HDD.

I'm pretty sure the default setting on priiloader is to region free everything so that you will be able to play both pal and ntsc on any console....If it isn't set as default just go into priiloader settings and set it as region free,, that last part was for anybody that didn't know it could be manually set.

[N8Parks]

We all knew what you meant m8 but keith doesn't get to correct many people lol

It's N8 not m8, m8. hah


I'm pretty sure the default setting on priiloader is to region free everything so that you will be able to play both pal and ntsc on any console....If it isn't set as default just go into priiloader settings and set it as region free,, that last part was for anybody that didn't know it could be manually set.

Actually, that's pretty cool. It was going to be one of my next questions as I'm starting to run out of games to install in NTSC-U.

[Keithuk]

Well the only things I changed with PriiLoader was block Nintendo updates, Block Disc updates and remove the 'A' prompt at the safety screen.

Both PAL and NTFS games play straight off without any adjustments on all 3 USB Loaders.

[N8Parks]

Which then brings me to my next question.

<-------- full of questions this one ...

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f16/dj-hero-2-wants-sign-wifi-230399/

[happy_highlander]

It's N8 not m8, m8. hah



Actually, that's pretty cool. It was going to be one of my next questions as I'm starting to run out of games to install in NTSC-U.

You should move that first bit over to the comedy section lol

[Keithuk]

You should move that first bit over to the comedy section lol

Yes he should have. http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a121/KStanier/rofl.gif