28.2e, 19.2e and 13e on one dish?

[lukef]

Hi, I've recently bought a skybox F3 and now looking to get a dish installed. Ideally, I'd like to get the above 3 satellites, and because I stay in a flat, I understand that a motorised set-up would be inadvisable due to the fact that wind could knock it out of place. If that's the case (?), is it possible to pick up 13e, 19.2e and 28.2/28.5e on a reasonable sized fixed dish?

I'm based in east central Scotland and was hoping I could use a Triax 88cm dish (or smaller) to achieve this, with a triax quad lnb holder. Would that be feasible? Or is there a better way of achieving this?

Where should the dish be focused at (I'd like to have a good signal for 13e and 19.2e, so should it be more geared towards them with the Sky UK satellite presumably being stronger here)?

I'd imagine the dish would need to go on the roof (4 stories up, but flat, so should be a relatively standard installation for the installer). How much would this likely cost to install (including brackets, cables, etc)? And would it be relatively safe from being knocked out of position by wind up there (don't want to be having to get someone out every time there's a gust of wind)?

Finally, with the quad lnb holder, would I be aswell getting another lnb for a 4th satellite- and if so, which one would be best (9e? 23.5e? Think the lnbs have to be min 4 degrees apart, so 16e presumably out of the question?)? Would this affect the quality of reception for the other sats whatsoever?

Sorry for all the questions!!

Thanks in advance...

[cactikid]

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[digicon]

At a pinch it could be done on a TD78 at your location if your not too bothered about the 28.2? east especially eutelsat 28a the weakest bird the others should be fine, Central LNB on 19.2? east with 13? and 28.2? east as the offset and you should be AOK. Obviously the TD88 will give you a better rain fade margin but thats up to you price wise no idea up your way but could be something similar to a motorised install.

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

you need to really get a dish over 80cm for this because of the off set you will have on 28 and 13 east..

[digicon]

you need to really get a dish over 80cm for this because of the off set you will have on 28 and 13 east..

I agree for his location but come down into England even on the border and you can start getting away with a Zone2 for this type of install, I have worked in scotland and just past the border they get away with Zone1's for Sky not recommended obviously up and around melrose, The furthest i went while staying in inverness was Ullapool right on the coast TV signal was piss poor so most folks had freesat.

[excollier]

I have the same plus 3 others on a TD88, all working well

[blueflash234]

i would add 23 east to your list for a fixed dish ,but by the time you buy all the lnb's you would be cheaper motorising your dish just take your time to get the strongest signal you can and make sure everything is really tight

[mdt]

get a td88, a triax multi bracket and 4 inverto black ultra,s.. id go with a quad for 28.2/5e and twins for 23.5/19.2 and 13e, id say between ?270 and ?300 installed. regards mdt

[lukef]

Thank you all for your help. Some mixed messages there though?! Ideally, a motorised set up would be the way to go, but have been warned that a bit of wind could result in lost channels, hence the interest in the multi-lnb set up. Can't afford to be getting someone out to reposition the thing on even a semi-regular basis. If that's likely to be a problem, that option is out, but not sure whether the same problem exists with the multi-lnb fixed dish option? Would rather pay now for the right set up than be constantly forking out! Is it common for a motorised dish to be set up on flats- most posts I've read tend to relate to people with houses and good access to sort out any problems themselves..

If these sats can be got on a multi-lnb TD88 dish in Donegal, I'm presuming they can be had in the Edinburgh/lothians area (further north but also futher east so possibly comparable in terms of reception footprints??)- shouldn't be too far off the scenario in the borders area I don't think? I couldn't really go any bigger dish-wise than that.

I'd quite like to get setanta, which I understand is on the Eutelsat 28a, so bit of a concern if that couldn't be had due to the weakness of that satellite, but as long as the 28.2e, 19.2e and 13e were strong enough for good reception in bad weather, that'd be ok.

My only other option would be to get a small dish for 28e and a separate dish for 13e and 19.2e with monoblock lnb- would this be a better option and, if so, what size of dish would I be looking at for the 13e/19.2 fixed set up?

Thanks again for taking the time to help out here- can't praise the contributors here enough. Been on V-media so completely new to the satellite game!

[westhamdaz]

Im in North Herts and have a standard Z1 minidish for 28e and a 64cm triax dish with 19.2 and 13e.

Works a treat in all weather apart from in the mentalist of rain storms but thats not unusual.

[dave-h]

If these sats can be got on a multi-lnb TD88 dish in Donegal, I'm presuming they can be had in the Edinburgh/lothians area (further north but also futher east so possibly comparable in terms of reception footprints??)- shouldn't be too far off the scenario in the borders area I don't think? I couldn't really go any bigger dish-wise than that.

You should have no problem getting 13, 19.2 and 28.2E on a TD88 in Edinburgh.

Lad i know who stays around Glasgow uses an 80cm dish and as had various different multi-LNB configurations on it including those 3 sats with no issues.

Also, i live about 90 miles south of Edinburgh, and have a Penta 85 which currently has 4 LNBs for 28.2, 23.5, 19.2 and 13E (also had 9.0E, at one point)


My only other option would be to get a small dish for 28e and a separate dish for 13e and 19.2e with monoblock lnb- would this be a better option and, if so, what size of dish would I be looking at for the 13e/19.2 fixed set up?



You could also consider motorising a z2 Sky dish....

[excollier]

Go for the multifeed option, much faster channel changing when swapping between sats. It's always windy and always raining where I live and I have no trouble at all with reception. Dish has never flinched once.
As a pointer, my dish is centred on 16e and worked out from that.

Here's where I got all the help I needed, and my setup is very similar, but bar is centre mounted, I get 4.8e 13e 16e 19.2e 23.5e and 28.2e

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056197308

[lukef]

Right, thanks folks, plenty to think about- I think I'll email a few installers and see what they reckon to it (hopefully they're as knowledgable as the good people on here). Like I say, motorised would be my preferred option but not gonna be in a position to sort out if it's liable to be blown out of place, so thinking the TD88 multi-lnb will have to suffice with the 3 sats, and might throw in 23.5e for good measure.

If Excollier's getting everything ok in Donegal on a TD88, I reckon I should be fine here (been battered by manys a wind / rain up in annagry and gweedore!!), and if it's possible on a 80cm dish in glasgow then I don't see any problems (unless someone's gonna hit me with some new take on this!?). Will get a proper look at the boards.ie thread in the next couple of days.

Thank you all for your insight... and expect more queries when (if?!) I get things up and running....

[excollier]

Just a word to the wise, I only managed to get a 6 lnb and 3 deg spacing on the TD88, a 80cm dish might make that impossible. Just in case you wanted to add more in the future. For your sats you will have no bother on a 80cm (although 23.5e may be a bit tight).