vectra c problem

[insomnia2009]

hi i have a vectra c that had a psg 16 ecu problem i have replaced the ecu with an unlocked unit trying to pair it with op com clone but wont let me were im confused is should the the starter be winding even the the ecu is not paired when turn the key there is nothing i can hear the relay activating when i turn the key to start the car but nothing its just dead

[marusca]

you are sure the ecu is reset...
i think it's immo problem in my opinion...

[marian.m]

post dtc`s from ecu and cim.

[insomnia2009]

hi thanks for replys here is a post on the error codes when i follow opcom guide for programming when you go to ecm to reset the ecu its asking me for a pin which its not ment to be there also i connected it to carprog on the bench read the file but no pin showed its a clone car prog here is the dtc

OP-COM 090820b - PC based diagnostic tool

Please add your workshop
name in the settings window

OP-COM - CAN Communication Window> 2004|Vectra-C / Signum|Engine|Y 20 DTH


Read Info...

Identifier: 0x1411
VIN: W0L0TGF7542153202
Hardware number:1401
Motor type: Y20DTH
Part Number:55352861
Software version number: VMDA1020_S
Hardware manufacturer number: 0470504220
Software Number: 1469946221C263_VB1
Programming Date: 20120503
Hardware key number: 0000000000
System description: BOSCH0100
Type approval number: B03027
Variant programming : 0x00003015
Alpha code:
Hardware manufacturer system name: PSG16


Total number of fault codes: 10

P1540 - <Unknown DTC>
(0D) - Present

P0070 - <Unknown DTC>
(02) - Present

P1811 - <Unknown DTC>
(0D) - Not present

P0381 - <Unknown DTC>
(04) - Present

U2108 - CAN-Bus no Communication with ABS/TC
(00) - Present

U2106 - CAN-Bus no Communication with Transmission Control Module
(00) - Present

P1650 - <Unknown DTC>
(04) - Present

P0638 - Throttle Control Solenoid Valve Circuit open
(04) - Present

P1610 - Immobiliser Function not Programmed
(00) - Present

P1611 - Wrong Security Code Entered
(00) - Not present

[insomnia2009]

here is a dump of the psg 16 if anyone can tell its locked or unlocked

[genius76]

What a question.
The last two errors you clearly said everything
And, all the error says that the ECU not feeding than one device

[butler3727]

hi reset all ecus ie cim and rec and ips disconect battery for few mins then reprogram all ecus works for me everytime

[insomnia2009]

hi reset all ecus ie cim and rec and ips disconect battery for few mins then reprogram all ecus works for me everytime

thanks for the replys i will try this now and see what happens

[insomnia2009]

hi still no joy with this im wondering now is my opcom faulty it will connect to some units but wont with others here is a video of whats happening quality is not great but if you check when i try to pair in cim it just sticks at please wait

YouTube

[MJRVR]

Video says private for me.

[insomnia2009]

Video says private for me.

sorry now is public

[genius76]

Try after the reset switch off the ignition for 30 seconds.
Programming, coding, adaptation. Everything completes the ignition is switched off and turned on.
Otherwise, the ECU not assimilate new data.

[Atex31]

Hi Insomnia,

Like genius says, after each change of component state you must switch off the ignition for a minimum of 10 seconds before continuing.

I use the genuine VauxCom with UK support from Ilexa and that was the explanation given to me when I 1st started using it and I had the same problem.

I understand the need for clone tools if you are only tinkering but if you do this for a living, contact Ilexa, buy the real tool and get free support :)

http://www.ilexa.co.uk/acatalog/vauxcom.html

[teuton]

hi i have a vectra c that had a psg 16 ecu problem i have replaced the ecu with an unlocked unit trying to pair it with op com clone but wont let me were im confused is should the the starter be winding even the the ecu is not paired when turn the key there is nothing i can hear the relay activating when i turn the key to start the car but nothing its just dead


Concerning your original question:

with the ecu not paired, the starter will NOT spin,

BR

[insomnia2009]

hi well today i was at it again and got another opcom but still same problems i having i also changed laptop but exact same thing is happening have went true alot of softwares and firmwares with still the same result lost on this one

[genius76]

Opel Vauxhall OP-COM Programming ECU How to Video Instructions - YouTube

Do some homework yourself

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?source=search_app#q=opcom+manual+pairing+new +ecu&hl=en&newwindow=1&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ei=BgbJUKGOGcGl0AWu1YHwBA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355272958,d.d2k&fp=30109c6b076bc512&bpcl=39942515&biw=1280&bih=909

[flyins]

Hi friend if you have reset items in you vectra don't forget you need to code your ddm(drivers door module)and pdm(passenger module) back in otherwise it won't start , also if can problems on abs you will have issue's

[insomnia2009]

Opel Vauxhall OP-COM Programming ECU How to Video Instructions - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYhfeqUDY34)

Do some homework yourself

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?source=search_app#q=opcom+manual+pairing+new +ecu&hl=en&newwindow=1&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ei=BgbJUKGOGcGl0AWu1YHwBA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355272958,d.d2k&fp=30109c6b076bc512&bpcl=39942515&biw=1280&bih=909

hehe i have been true all these videos a 100 times but thanks for the help m8 this has me brain fried

[insomnia2009]

ok so i think i have figured out this one i was about to pack in last night on it and i realised when i got the replacement ecu first i realised that when i done auto id on op com it picked it up as a zafira i had the vin number that came with the pump saved on my laptop and i found a link on google that show what the vin number mean so on this link it says on a vectra c the 5th number should be Z which is correct i have checked a few vectra c dumps and all have Z in the 5th digit so i had a look at the vin number on the replacement ecu and the 5th digit is T so if you look at the link you will see that T is for astra g or zafira a, i think the flash on the ecu has to be different so i will look for a different one and see what happens
here is the link to the website
http://www.scribd.com/doc/38814808/Opel-Vin-Codes

[insomnia2009]

ok i got another ecu guy in the breakers told me that the car this ecu came from was running so i put it in and paired now the car does turn over however im getting an error code p0606 again any advice i hope that ecu is ok

[genius76]

P0606 Replace Electronic Control Unit (ECU) C-002
P0606 Control Unit Programming Error Hard- and Software B-002
P0606 Electronic Control Unit (ECU) - Malfunction C-002

[genius76]

Have you paired the CIM module to the ECU?

[teuton]

reflashthe breaker unit.

[insomnia2009]

Have you paired the CIM module to the ECU?

hi yes the car is turning over now what options or tools needed to reflash i dont think carprog can do it

[insomnia2009]

i took the ecu from the car and read the file again with carprog i see that the vin number is there put the security coded did not program its not on the 3 lines were it should be so its a programming error

[insomnia2009]

today i was talking to guy in breakers and he was 100% that the ecu was good so i put it back in the car tryed programming again after reseting with carprog and i only have one error code now which is (p0380) but still when i go to cim then immo programming put my pin options open accepts the security code when i select ecm installed and do it it just does noting but car is trying to turn over

[genius76]

go to section engine - additional features on the right button and then press the immobilizer programming, the message turn the ignition on and wait 20 seconds. will the loading bar. off the ignition

[insomnia2009]

just see that the security time wait says 00:20 can not beleave it what is the best way to get rid of that is time the only thing

[teuton]

just see that the security time wait says 00:20 can not beleave it what is the best way to get rid of that is time the only thing


LOL,:giveup:

leave the ignition on and security time will count down. your booked for 20 minutes, not too bad. after that you can match the modules, finally.
otherwise you'll have to change dump, butin your case it's quicker and easier just to wait the 20 minutes.

[genius76]

lolYou served the shortest time in which I have ever seen.
We would be upon receiving 12 or 24 hours, that's when it is time for cuckoolol

[insomnia2009]

i really can not beleave this wow if it was the case i need to chnage the file what file would it be is the file in dash

[insomnia2009]

its not countting down with ignition on emmm is there anything i can reflash i would be able to program eeproms but i dont have access to tech 2 to flash ecu however i do have car prog dont know if a reset there would do the trick

[teuton]

lolYou served the shortest time in which I have ever seen.
We would be upon receiving 12 or 24 hours, that's when it is time for cuckoolol


Actually the punishment starts with 10 minutes and doubles each time you enter wrong code or something similar...

[teuton]

its not countting down with ignition on emmm is there anything i can reflash i would be able to program eeproms but i dont have access to tech 2 to flash ecu however i do have car prog dont know if a reset there would do the trick


Resetting ecu with carprog is possible but won`t help. This, because the immo unit is locked, not the engine ecu.
You would have to edit the immo dump.

Try to leave the switch open for a prolonged time, in extreme cas up to 25 hours, regardless from the time indicated in measuring block.

BTW, why don't you push the thanks button for those who spend time in helping you?

BR.

[insomnia2009]

o my god lol this is really testing me i will leave the ignition open and see what happens so if the immo unit is locked were is it possible to get that file thanks this really has me going

just realise also the security time wait is active in the ecm diagnose not the cim does that still mean its immo

[genius76]

maybe even this will help

[insomnia2009]

cheers m8 what chip would i have to clear to get rid of the security code would it be on in the dash

[genius76]

We walk in the surrounding can you tell everything beginning of the story, because somewhere is what is missing adding a new ECU from another car, if everything is consistent only had paired immobilizer to a new ECU

What exactly was wrong with the old ECU any foult codes?
What was wrong with the car, why you decided to blame it is the ECU
Have you changed your high pressure pump?
Do you have done any changes except the ECU

[insomnia2009]

ok m8 so here is the story

friend of mind was driving the car he said he stoped the car at a petrol station and car would not start so he got it back to or town and asked me to plug in to it and when i did i got the error code p0606 so had a look around and see that its a processor fault in the ecu and when i done a bit of research i seen it was major problem he went to the dealer and they also told him is ecu was gone he went of and had a look for an ecu and he got one i had opcom and carprog so we will try after a week of thinking why my opcom is not working i tryed everything with it and realised that the ecu was from a zafira from the vin numbers on saturday last i went i got an ecu from local breakers he told me car was running so i came back got the pin from the ecu and fitted in the car i reset the ecu 1st time but it was still sticking on please wait when i went into cim module to pair them with the pin of the car we have so untill yesterday i didnt see this security wait time i also notice that wait time only shows up in the ecm meassuring block that the full story

[genius76]

Have you changed your high pressure pump?
Why am I asking? Second ECU with the same error that means that hi-pressure pump itself ECU problems m8 On this machine control system control unit has a built-in pump. Therefore, to replace the ECU, it is necessary to change the fuel pump, and install another pump, it is necessary that both the pump were reseted using the pin code immobilizer each machine

this error code in feature event can occur if the terminals 49, 51, 53, 55 ECU voltage incorrectly. These terminals of the relay-powered engine So this time to check carefully before taking further action.

[insomnia2009]

hi m8 interesting read i will check that out now and post reuslts

[insomnia2009]

hi so i have not done any other tests on the car yet the reason for it i can not get rid of that security code i have left the charger plugged in and hooked up to battery but for more than 24 hours but still did not clear any idea what way i could reflash the ecu is there any tool that will do other than tech 2

[genius76]

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/opel-vectra-psg-16-used-pump-swap-question-200813/

Like I said will have to play with the pump

Try to get in touch with szwajcarek

[insomnia2009]

finally this one is firing thanks to everyone for helping out security wait time was catching me timer wasnt running down but yet if i waited the displayed time the lock was actually gone what an error any one in future that reads dont be fooled by the security wait time it can be tricky but dont think my record will be broken :stupido:

[Ashraf6119]

Hi

If the Engine is Now Cranking then I don't think there any problem with your programming as this system if its not been paired properly it will not let you crank...........

1) Make a full Auto Scan and post the DTC here

2) Make sure the fuel system is been bleed properly and there is NO any air in the Fuel System..

P0380 is a fault code for an Glow Plugs which will not stop your Vehicle to start....

Did you reset the Instrument and Airbag Module after programing/pairing every thing............


Edited: Glad You got it running.............just ignore my post........