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Shady
14th January, 2013, 06:27 PM
I picked up a 2l rover 75 auto diesel on friday thanks to xant14.
today, it went onto red fuel light and wouldnt start again after i picked up my boy from school. i put ?13 of diesel in, and it still wont start?
I remember having a rover 45 that needed about ?3 gallon of petrol before turning over.. is the 75 the same?

genius76
14th January, 2013, 07:00 PM
Do not drive with almost empty tank rover both petrol and diesel very much afraid empty tank
Couple this incident and you have a serious problem with the engine
gasoline bake pump in the tank in diesels high pressure pump

Shady
14th January, 2013, 07:08 PM
Fuel gauge said about 1/8th of a tank left

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genius76
14th January, 2013, 07:13 PM
diag m8
may be that it is no big deal but need to check the results with scanner

genius76
14th January, 2013, 07:15 PM
if you start with low fuel should get low pressure error

smirnoff_rules
14th January, 2013, 07:21 PM
the fuel pump next to the battery are very common for ****ing up m8 .. get someone to turn car over a listen for a noise , if not give it a hard tap and see if it starts again , if it does replace it http://mkon.webs.com/103822_3mg.jpg

Shady
14th January, 2013, 07:24 PM
Had no errors on dash

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smirnoff_rules
14th January, 2013, 07:25 PM
Had no errors on dash

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u dont with the front pump

smirnoff_rules
14th January, 2013, 07:32 PM
the rovers go have problems with the filter in the tank coming apart too , but only had this on petrol ones tho

Shady
14th January, 2013, 07:33 PM
The bloke said fuel pump was replaced about six months ago smirnoff, low fuel light came on on Saturday, i pulled into a garage and put a tender in. No probs. Today it would not start after fuel light came on. Literally came on a few seconds before i pulled up, so there was a gallon left? I put Thirteen quid of fuel in, but having left kids at school being looked after by a teacher, i didn't want to leave them any longer as id already made two two mile round trips to put the two cans in. Like i say, i had a rover 45 that took three gallons before turning over before and was hoping that it would be the same here. But judging by all the answers i guess not :(

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smirnoff_rules
14th January, 2013, 07:36 PM
The bloke said fuel pump was replaced about six months ago smirnoff, low fuel light came on on Saturday, i pulled into a garage and put a tender in. No probs. Today it would not start after fuel light came on. Literally came on a few seconds before i pulled up, so there was a gallon left? I put Thirteen quid of fuel in, but having left kids at school being looked after by a teacher, i didn't want to leave them any longer as id already made two two mile round trips to put the two cans in. Like i say, i had a rover 45 that took three gallons before turning over before and was hoping that it would be the same here. But judging by all the answers i guess not :(

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have u got the receipt ? does it say diesel on it ? sounds like u put petrol in

genius76
14th January, 2013, 07:41 PM
the rovers go have problems with the filter in the tank coming apart too , but only had this on petrol ones tho

This is the same

genius76
14th January, 2013, 07:42 PM
The bloke said fuel pump was replaced about six months ago smirnoff, low fuel light came on on Saturday, i pulled into a garage and put a tender in. No probs. Today it would not start after fuel light came on. Literally came on a few seconds before i pulled up, so there was a gallon left? I put Thirteen quid of fuel in, but having left kids at school being looked after by a teacher, i didn't want to leave them any longer as id already made two two mile round trips to put the two cans in. Like i say, i had a rover 45 that took three gallons before turning over before and was hoping that it would be the same here. But judging by all the answers i guess not :(

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The problem is that when you pour some more fuel pump to pump more easily.
So if you need 15 liters to start the car, had something wrong with the pump

Shady
14th January, 2013, 07:47 PM
have u got the receipt ? does it say diesel on it ? sounds like u put petrol in

I put diesel in. No receipt.

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smirnoff_rules
14th January, 2013, 07:49 PM
ok . had to be sure , u wouldn't believe how many customers swear blind they havnt and they have

Shady
14th January, 2013, 07:50 PM
The problem is that when you pour some more fuel pump to pump more easily.
So if you need 15 liters to start the car, had something wrong with the pump

I put roughly ten litres in, so another five should start? I ****ing hope so lol

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smirnoff_rules
14th January, 2013, 07:51 PM
it the car on an angle ?

Shady
14th January, 2013, 07:56 PM
it the car on an angle ?

You know..now you've said that, it is on a slight angle, about a ten degree slope down towards passenger side .

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smirnoff_rules
14th January, 2013, 08:01 PM
lm trying to think is the feeds drivers side or passanger ? the pumps on the drivers side (uk) and filter n/s , put cant remember wot ones the feed part

genius76
14th January, 2013, 08:04 PM
switch on ignition
listen or starts pump

genius76
14th January, 2013, 08:05 PM
feed from passenger side

genius76
14th January, 2013, 08:06 PM
pump start or not

Shady
14th January, 2013, 08:06 PM
dont ask me lol

smirnoff_rules
14th January, 2013, 08:08 PM
feed from passenger side

think your right so might of only filled drivers side as these are shaped in 2 half's till haft filled

genius76
14th January, 2013, 08:08 PM
should be a couple seconds sound of a mosquito

Shady
14th January, 2013, 08:09 PM
i cant check anything else tonight as the car is by my boys school and im home now.. so my first move should be puttin another 5 litres or so in? and pushing car onto a flatter surface?

genius76
14th January, 2013, 08:10 PM
think your right so might of only filled drivers side as these are shaped in 2 half's till haft filled

Yes this is the most fu....ing system when you need to change anything

genius76
14th January, 2013, 08:12 PM
and listen sound of a mosquito :rolleyes:

maca
14th January, 2013, 09:00 PM
Sell it to gmb it sounds shit.....

ccd1981
14th January, 2013, 09:51 PM
tell me please what year is the car,
all details

Shady
14th January, 2013, 09:52 PM
rover 75 2002 connoiseur se cdt tourer. 2.0L

ccd1981
14th January, 2013, 09:59 PM
can you specyfie the car details

Shady
14th January, 2013, 10:01 PM
like what? its green, its got four wheels. what exactly do you want to know?

ccd1981
14th January, 2013, 10:03 PM
when you turn the key to starter, the engine speed senzor is modifing?

ccd1981
14th January, 2013, 10:05 PM
what year , horsepower,y
when you go to see the doctor he dont care what s you shoes color

Shady
14th January, 2013, 10:07 PM
what year , horsepower,y
when you go to see the doctor he dont care what s you shoes color


listen mate, i know youre probably trying to help, but i have give you all the relevant info in post #31

ccd1981
14th January, 2013, 10:11 PM
k ,sorry ,didnt see,
so
chech speed engine senzor
chech fuel pump low presure
check injector backleack, if is a hydreulic system probleme

Shady
14th January, 2013, 10:13 PM
okee dokee.. lets pretend im a retard (no laughing from the cheap seats) and dont know what the heck any of that is or where its located

andy1967
14th January, 2013, 10:17 PM
okee dokee.. lets pretend im a retard (no laughing from the cheap seats) and dont know what the heck any of that is or where its located

Their all under the bonnet of the car!







Who buys a Rover, they are cr@p lol

Shady
14th January, 2013, 10:19 PM
i said NO laughing from the cheap seats.. im one of bds sidekicks fud.. ill see you BANNED!!!!

ccd1981
14th January, 2013, 10:21 PM
when the engine is rotating do you see the engine speed abouve 200 rpm?

Shady
14th January, 2013, 10:21 PM
i want to say i was taking notice of the rpm.... but i wasnt :embarassed:

Shady
14th January, 2013, 10:24 PM
see what im hoping for is someone, some clever car type person, who knows all the crap i dont understand and lives near tamworth, to offer to come and fix it for me.

ninja123
14th January, 2013, 10:54 PM
im in brum mate, but busy for the next 2 days.

Take off top engine cover, locate cam sensor on top of engine, left side as you look from front of car, remove, spray with carb or brake cleaner for about a min, refit and start car.

ps, for anyone tekkin the piss out of rovers, this one is a BM!!

ninja

Shady
14th January, 2013, 10:57 PM
im in brum mate, but busy for the next 2 days.

Take off top engine cover, locate cam sensor on top of engine, left side as you look from front of car, remove, spray with carb or brake cleaner for about a min, refit and start car.

ps, for anyone tekkin the piss out of rovers, this one is a BM!!

ninja

I read something about easy start? Is that what you mean?

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smirnoff_rules
14th January, 2013, 11:18 PM
I read something about easy start? Is that what you mean?

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dont use it m8 , if u dont know wot your doing u can **** the engine up m8

genius76
14th January, 2013, 11:57 PM
first try what said smirnoff_rules and i in morning then decide whether you will need the smartest mean or not

Shady
15th January, 2013, 09:03 AM
the fuel pump next to the battery are very common for ****ing up m8 .. get someone to turn car over a listen for a noise , if not give it a hard tap and see if it starts again , if it does replace it http://mkon.webs.com/103822_3mg.jpg

which arrow should be tapped?

genius76
15th January, 2013, 01:51 PM
If the ignition is switched on if there are no mosquito sound from rear of vehicle your pump dies
That's what we are trying to tell you

Here something from this page


The biggest problem with rover 75 is the fuel system. Rover 75 CDT's have got
two fuel pumps ? one in the tank (high pressure pump) and one under the bonnet (support pump). They are designed not to last long unfortunately.
The high pressure pump is located under back seat ? driver side. It pumps the fuel through the long sender unit (in the tank) to the opposite end of the tank ? you can access this side through the hole under back seat on the passenger side. Then, diesel goes through a heater to the under bonnet pump. This one helps adjust pressure to send fuel through a fuel filter to the De-basco unit and then to the injection pump on the engine. All whats left, goes back to the tank, through radiator behind the back o/s wheel (where it needs to be cooled down), then back into the tank through pipes above the in-tank fuel pump. That?s why if you disconnect fuel pipes above the pump there is no fuel coming out!!! My 75 suffered from poor hot starting and I also noticed that the under-bonnet pump was louder than usual. I did tap the pump a few times and it helped, but only for a short while. I could not hear the in tank pump and so concluded it had failed. I was correct - it was dead. When one of the pumps die, that affects the other one and it?s very hard to say how much longer it will be working after replacing the broken one. They both suffer with the same problem: due to the copper segments of the commutator being so thick, they ware away much quicker than some other pumps. The fault only seemed to show up when the fuel level was around the 1/4 mark. It?s possible that the engine will appear to run normally with just the under bonnet pump working if the fuel level is kept above 1/3rd full. This has the advantage that failure of the in tank pump does not leave you stranded, assuming you have not run the fuel down below the 1/4 mark, but on the other hand, also masks the fault until the fuel gets low.

THE UNDER BONNET PUMP WILL FAIL FAIRLY QUICKLY IF THE IN TANK PUMP IS NOT WORKING. If your under bonnet one has failed, or needs a tap to make it run, do not assume that only it needs replacing. It may be failing, or have failed because the in tank one has not been working for some time.

So listen for both pumps (they should run for at least 20 seconds with just the ignition on) and then if the in tank one has failed, try replacing it. This may give the under bonnet one a new lease of life. Fault finding tip:

Connect a voltmeter to the low pressure sensor on the fuel filter housing, the voltage should be about 4volts, corresponding to a pressure of about 36psi with the ignition on, start the engine, the voltage will drop only briefly. If possible, extend the meter leads so you can read the voltage from inside the car whilst someone else is driving. The voltage should remain close to 4v with only brief dips even under full power.

Another way is to disconnect fuel pipe under the under-bonnet pump unit ? yellow arrow on the picture. Then switch on the ignition on for a second. If fuel flows fine (no noises or air bubbles) put it back together and disconnect pipe from fuel filter ? blue arrow on the picture. Turn the ignition on and you should have an answer as to
which pump doesn?t work.

Personal advice: buy both pumps. This way you will avoid a nasty surprise if the second pump stops in the near future.

Shady
15th January, 2013, 02:52 PM
Joined aa. They came out. Put another gallon in. Nothing. Pumps seem to be working but nothing going through

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genius76
15th January, 2013, 02:59 PM
you mean that the pump in tank makes it sound, but the diesel is not coming when disconnected pipe?

Shady
15th January, 2013, 03:20 PM
Yeah. That's it

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genius76
15th January, 2013, 03:29 PM
Where do you find so f...ng mechanics
This means that the pump not getting diesel or pump is f...... that's it nothing more nothing less

andy1967
15th January, 2013, 08:16 PM
Have the AA fixed it?

Shady
15th January, 2013, 08:27 PM
Have the AA fixed it?

Nope. Towed it home.

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gmb45
15th January, 2013, 08:38 PM
Sell it to gmb it sounds shit.....

my shiterons never broke doon macafud ;)

cunny
15th January, 2013, 08:45 PM
But he is right?




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ninja123
15th January, 2013, 08:50 PM
SHADY: Why did you join the uk's biggest and best 'tow home' company?

I was one of these guys for ten long hard years, and to be honnest, the majority of them havn't got a bl00dy clue, and the ones that have, are that de moralised (by 11-12 hour shifts for 6-10 days on the trot) that they cant be bothered to look any further than a flat battery.

TRUST ME, THESE GUYS HAVE HAD NO (AND I MEAN ZERO) TECHNICAL TRAINING SINCE JOINING THE COMPANY.

Drop me a line if you want your car diagnosed accurately.

ninja

ps - these b4$tard$ in yellow sacked me for having too much knowledge and USING IT outside of the company - the management are a bunch of complete ****3r$


Winge over!

Meat-Head
15th January, 2013, 09:10 PM
WHOA hold it hold it.

We had one of these recently was FORCED to search on some INFERIOR website

Right here INFERIOR WEBSITE (http://www.mkon.co.uk/doityourself.htm)

Even more INFERIOR WEBSITE LINK BREAKS DK RULES (http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=123849&page=5)

Right if you read the first INFERIOR link if it's the same one just before xmas it says like sminoff says

the low fuel light is from lh side of tank and fuel level is from rh side

yes you can get lh side empty and rh 1/4 full.

so you run out of fuel.

the one we had - basically guy was a tosser, turned up at wrong time told him to fkuck off

basically my boss being the tawt that he is, just cranked it and cranked it to death untill it started.

it's a pig to crack the injectors off

if you can see if your naybour is related to Justy22 jumpleads from another car and crank it for a solid 60 seconds then wit for 5 mins for starter to cool

if after doing this 3 times you need to call a DK member out

DO NOT LET THE BATTERY GO FLAT

It is possable to kill the ecu if you flatten battery

possable camshaft sensor - but deffo like sminoff says hand on the yellow arrow and it should buzz for i think 60 seconds

put your head on rear drivers eat listen carfeully you should hear another faint buzz

it should be a 'solid' sound of liquid not like somebody is sucking an empty soda can through a straw

one gallon is enough - this one did - but if you can add more fuel do

if you read the inferior site and like genuis says the pump 'drops off' the bottom

as long as your NOT rough you can diy check/repair few basic tools and cable ties (NOT JTF ones)

if you plug a computer in it 'needs' to be an Autocom or T4 nothing else seems to work on it DDE 4.0 i think

you will see P1260 Prefuel pressure

either out of fuel

ecu *******ed (scrap car)

or fuel filter - blue arrow - blocked or 3 pin plug come off

if it is an estate DO NOT smash the back window it is worth more than the car - worth selling the rear tailgate if estate

genius76
15th January, 2013, 09:22 PM
I think that he said that does not understand anything about cars
Here is good but it really should be too hard for him
Even more, it can burn the starter and the like

Meat-Head
15th January, 2013, 09:46 PM
it can burn the starter

as i have no idea who you are, you can deny this as much as you want:-

Have you ever crancked a car for 60 seconds or till you see smoke?

What about vectra diesel fuel filter change - the first one you ever did like a Dime Barr bet you never forgot it did you?

genius76
15th January, 2013, 10:19 PM
I do not deny, but a person who does not understand anything and 30 seconds may be enough to do some damage
the problem had already occurred the previous owner
60 seconds nonstop? which probably has a good fry before

Never had in my life problems with the replacement fuel filter never

Oh make friends nothing prevents depending on how far you are from me and we can discuss the many curiosities :lollypop:

Meat-Head
15th January, 2013, 10:37 PM
Oh make friends nothing prevents depending on how far you are from me and we can discuss the many curiosities :lollypop:

sure press friends if you want i'm just stalking before bidding on ebay

smirnoff_rules
15th January, 2013, 10:45 PM
watch him @genius76 he goes turn up lol , he came to my garage , l did get afew hours work out of him tho lol

genius76
15th January, 2013, 10:47 PM
sorry for off top


i'm just stalking before bidding on ebay

You're anything buyed from me on ebay? sorry but I did not understand

smirnoff_rules
15th January, 2013, 11:00 PM
sorry for off top



You're anything buyed from me on ebay? sorry but I did not understand

dont worry no one does understand him lol

Meat-Head
16th January, 2013, 12:05 AM
watch him @genius76 he goes turn up lol , he came to my garage , l did get afew hours work out of him tho lol

you got away lightlty Obdmaster had a week of me




You're anything buyed from me on ebay? sorry but I did not understand

i was looking for info before i bid on a potato peeler on ebay
add friends i'm in bed on phone hard work


dont worry no one does understand him lol

my boss keeps saying that

on topic

shady you MUST MUST clean the plenum chamber of leaves

Shady
16th January, 2013, 12:18 AM
We all seem to keep forgetting that i know nowt. Lol. What and where is a plenum chamber?.

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Shady
16th January, 2013, 12:23 AM
Ok. Whilst looking around Google, i saw something that corresponds with something meaty said about two fuel tanks and that rocking it or jacking up passenger side so fuel travels over to rh side can get it to start?

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m3vuv
16th January, 2013, 04:24 AM
try and tow start it!

gmb45
16th January, 2013, 05:51 AM
~~~~ me this thread going on a bit could have rebuilt the engine by now ffs lol

Shady
16th January, 2013, 07:28 AM
Sorry its more interesting than your w@nkfest over your new car thread, or your "can i use my spare tyre" borefest :boring:

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genius76
16th January, 2013, 09:09 AM
Ok. Whilst looking around Google, i saw something that corresponds with something meaty said about two fuel tanks and that rocking it or jacking up passenger side so fuel travels over to rh side can get it to start?

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Inside the tank, there are tubes diesel can not be on one side less and another more


try and tow start it!

don't do that

genius76
16th January, 2013, 09:13 AM
Unlock the car
Lift up the back seate
Add the ear to the bottom
Ask the wife that she on the ignition only the ignition

tell us under the rear seat can hear any sound, if yes approximately how long

genius76
16th January, 2013, 09:15 AM
Take your time and we have to figure out exactly everything

Shady
16th January, 2013, 09:28 AM
Aa man did that he said both pumps sound fine

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genius76
16th January, 2013, 10:07 AM
All right make this procedure and we will be one hundred percent sure
This is not a complicated procedure

Put there any old clothes when you disconnect the hose and turn the ignition on

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20130116/i19_fuelf.jpg

Shady
16th January, 2013, 11:42 AM
Aa bloke did that mate. No fuel coming through

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genius76
16th January, 2013, 12:16 PM
OK
if you are sure that your tank has enough fuel
and fuel is still no running away after disconnecting the pipe
means that your tank pump died

Shady
16th January, 2013, 12:17 PM
its had 3 gallon in surely that should be enough fuel?

genius76
16th January, 2013, 12:18 PM
yes m8 replace yor pump

Shady
16th January, 2013, 12:25 PM
now im not questioning you and ive heard the bad reports from ninja about aa men.. BUT he said both pumps were working

genius76
16th January, 2013, 12:38 PM
I wonder how it is decided that the high-pressure pump works?
I can not say until that perform some tests and only then if diesel is fed from the first pump
So at least try yourself, listen to, or what is the sound of the rear seat when the ignition is switched on and if so, for how long

Shady
16th January, 2013, 12:39 PM
i watched him do it, so feel confident enough to try myself and report back :)

Meat-Head
16th January, 2013, 02:42 PM
try and tow start it!

NO THIS WILL DESTROY THE AUTOBOX




http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20130116/i19_fuelf.jpg


ALSO DO THIS ON THE OTHERSIDE damm capslock on the other side as well

Think you might be better off, looking at my first INFEROPR link and lifting the pumpout it soumnds like it has dropped off the bottom

The plenmum chamber, as it's a diesel, think 'same shit diff day'

the ecu fill with water only 1 person in the WORLD that can pair up a new diesel ecu - 3 if you count ninja123 and pierre theron

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/passat-2001-no-diag-313452/#post1831321

ninja123
16th January, 2013, 09:37 PM
SHADY: got you pencilled in for friday am if you still want me to pop over to you.

ninja

smirnoff_rules
16th January, 2013, 09:39 PM
u got your snow boots lol , u will need them

Shady
16th January, 2013, 09:39 PM
might be a prob on friday mate.. you seen the weather report? lol

Meat-Head
16th January, 2013, 10:43 PM
SHADY: got you pencilled in for friday am if you still want me to pop over to you.

ninja
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Thats awesome - minus the cost of your fuel the money coined off Shady - you can donate to DK.

Shady remember to show Ninja that mobile phone video of the bloke shagging the sheep :creep:

ninja123
16th January, 2013, 11:23 PM
It will take a lot more than a bit of scandanavian fairy dust to stop me guys!!

Just remember, i did this 12 hours a day for the last 10 years for those yellow idiots never let me stay home in the snow!!!

SHADY: if you dont want me to come on friday morning, or your not available, let me know mate so I can do something else.
If ok, ill still come, might even be able to get to you tomorow if i get all my jobs out the way quick enough, got your number so ill call you tomorow mate.

Meat-Head
16th January, 2013, 11:29 PM
got your number so ill call you tomorow mate.

dont forget to reverse the call charges

Shady
17th January, 2013, 11:02 AM
It will take a lot more than a bit of scandanavian fairy dust to stop me guys!!

Just remember, i did this 12 hours a day for the last 10 years for those yellow idiots never let me stay home in the snow!!!

SHADY: if you dont want me to come on friday morning, or your not available, let me know mate so I can do something else.
If ok, ill still come, might even be able to get to you tomorow if i get all my jobs out the way quick enough, got your number so ill call you tomorow mate.

any day is fine by me.. just saying like, friday, 6 to 10" is forecast around tamworth.. its much appreciated

Meat-Head
17th January, 2013, 02:56 PM
well that gives you chance to get that phone working with the sheep on it.

Meat-Head
18th January, 2013, 11:35 PM
yeah and sixpense non the richer or not?

genius76
19th January, 2013, 01:35 PM
It's already done interesting who was bad?

Meat-Head
19th January, 2013, 06:37 PM
It's already done interesting who was bad?

Inglish say you please that thanks many

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Shady
19th January, 2013, 06:39 PM
ninja coming over has been postponed due to weather conditions. thanks for caring :)

Meat-Head
19th January, 2013, 06:46 PM
ninja coming over has been postponed due to weather conditions. thanks for caring :)


It will take a lot more than a bit of scandanavian fairy dust to stop me guys!!

Just remember, i did this 12 hours a day for the last 10 years for those yellow idiots never let me stay home in the snow!!!

.

No i don't care, just nosey.

to give you an idea how little i care, ask a moderator howmany of my posts have been removed for 'not caring' content.

Shady
19th January, 2013, 06:50 PM
no.. because i dont care..


thankyou for being a nosey old shite talking scrote :)

Meat-Head
19th January, 2013, 11:54 PM
thankyou for being a nosey old shite talking scrote :)

i'll remember that when i next have a collection of your favorite beastility vids

genius76
20th January, 2013, 08:37 AM
Inglish say you please that thanks many

I do not think that question was for you

I've seen you understand very well when you need it

who wants that's understands


so :thefinger:

Shady
23rd January, 2013, 11:45 AM
ninja been and gone, top bloke. :)
definately in tank fuel pump.. :( need to source replacement

genius76
23rd January, 2013, 01:13 PM
Download::bebored:

Meat-Head
23rd January, 2013, 03:27 PM
for refernce under hood from M-H-M SUPPLY ONLY ?140+VAT

I would be inclinded as your retail not trade lol start with ebay

then GSP, Euro carparts

do not get second hand incase it is full of fillings.

when pump is out you need to look for brass fillings, if there is, then you need to get rid of the car asap.

andy1967
23rd January, 2013, 04:47 PM
So ninja came and found the fault but didn't fix it?

Shady
23rd January, 2013, 05:17 PM
Not without part mate. He said her come over. Locate the fault and fix if no parts were needed. Hes kept to that

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genius76
23rd January, 2013, 07:03 PM
It's all good
It will disappear like a real ninja:vroam:

And you again:giveup: New Thread: Problem rover 75 missing part :hmmmm2: - ninja123 :laugh:

ninja123
23rd January, 2013, 09:20 PM
I did have a rover 75 diesel in tank fuel pump, but I have it around my neck, next to the huge VW badge, so not willing to part with it!

Suppose I could have fitted a hand primer to the steering wheel, or an automatic air freshner filled with easy start into the airbox? Any other DAFT comments??

MH - No fillings mate, just pump open circuit, not siezed mate. Gave it a good beatin but still no pulse (automotive CPR).

ninja

Meat-Head
23rd January, 2013, 10:34 PM
IAny other DAFT comments??

MH - No fillings mate, just pump open circuit, not siezed mate. Gave it a good beatin


YEAH, do you fancy coming over to M/C and fixing the next two here, only 0.5 mile apart.

somebody elses head ache, had an ecu, flashes the injectors, 300 bar fuel pressure, goes on easy start. (4 clogged injectors)

The one at M-H-M killed the under seat pump by listening to it.

the main pos lucar has got burnt, but think the pump is still dead anyway.

ninja123
24th January, 2013, 08:15 AM
I am sure that you are more than capable meaty!!

ninja

Meat-Head
24th January, 2013, 08:57 AM
On topic

See on an inferior website that you can a cheaper peugo pump

Once realised was nferior site closed page


Shady look on ebay at photo of pug 406 fuel pump

Shady
24th January, 2013, 09:15 AM
And they're the same as my pump?
do i need to look for diesel pumps or will any do?

http://www.mkon.co.uk/apps/webstore/products/show/948870 is this the bit thats broken? is that the bit that needs replacing?

listen i know im being a pita.. but seriously.. when it comes to motors i can do simple bits and bobs but anything more complicated than changing a spark plug im stumped lol. soooooo... any advice, links to ebay sales etc is very much appreciated.


edit>>> this meaty? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELECTRIC-FUEL-PUMP-CITROEN-XANTIA-2-0-HDI-90-109-X2-/150984700552?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3APeugeot|Model%3A406&hash=item232763b288





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Meat-Head
24th January, 2013, 09:32 PM
Will have to look when on pc. E will be launching iphone jp wall if use it

Meat-Head
24th January, 2013, 10:03 PM
Sorry mate knackered not long got online. Not got enough energy to even stalk hot bird from the parts place

Suggest you use google to search that inferior website for peuhot alternyive like this in google

Peugot site:inferiorroversite.com

Here ill look at your links another day

MG Rover 75 ZT Diesel Fuel Pump for in tank unit WFX100933 New | eBay (http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=261158798315&index=2&nav=SEARCH&nid=02326056677)

Shady
24th January, 2013, 10:07 PM
so thats what i need. and can re-use all the surrounding plastic and everything else..
thanks a lot, you guys in this section arent half clever ****ers.. thank you asll :)

Meat-Head
25th January, 2013, 08:53 AM
U yes reuse plastic. Look at my first post in thread. Two links. Just dont let admin catch you viewing inferior site

Tells you how. Just be gentle buy a jubilee clip on pump old muller it off

Diesel only burnd. 50 degree c. So safe to use hair dryer to warm pipe on pump to remove. Cold outside make it more safer

Did i relly go to hed 9pm last nitr yes i did!

Hate iph

Shady
25th January, 2013, 10:50 AM
all done and ordered :) rep added all round :)

tim158
25th January, 2013, 10:38 PM
Glad you got it sorted, been following this thread tonight and one thing that has not been mentioned is water in the ecu.

Very common faults are

Engine cranks water in pass foot well no coms no mil light etc

I have removed and dried on dash / ecu located behind battery under n/s windscreen/

And all have started and kepted stc ninja will understand and total agree the AA don't look after their boys in the van


:thefinger:

Meat-Head
25th January, 2013, 11:55 PM
:) rep added all round :)

DID WE ALL JUST GET THE ONE ROUND?

sorry caps lock been giving somebody greif

ninja123
27th January, 2013, 12:22 AM
Glad you got it sorted, been following this thread tonight and one thing that has not been mentioned is water in the ecu.

Very common faults are

Engine cranks water in pass foot well no coms no mil light etc

I have removed and dried on dash / ecu located behind battery under n/s windscreen/

And all have started and kepted stc ninja will understand and total agree the AA don't look after their boys in the van


:thefinger:


The 'drying' of ecu's on heater has some success but not 100% - I have done sh!t loads of these, just cant get my hands on enough ecu's to supply demand :(

ninja

ninja123
28th January, 2013, 08:29 AM
do we have a runner yet mate?

ninja

Shady
28th January, 2013, 08:37 AM
not yet mate. ordered pump, not been delivered yet :(

Shady
29th January, 2013, 03:10 PM
update:
pump delivered and fit back into housing by me :proud:
battery flat so needs charging overnight, then bro in law coming round to fit assembled pump back in car for me.

THEN its onto working out why cruise control lights up but doesnt work (apparently switch above pedals?)
and why electric passenger heat doesnt work.. but im guessing thats a fuse problem.

genius76
29th January, 2013, 03:41 PM
update:
pump delivered and fit back into housing by me :proud: problem.

I am now totally confused
you said that you do not understand anything about the cars

it's you repair cars or ninja321

What have I said that will be a new Thread :)

So now we are looking for the fuse:champions:

genius76
29th January, 2013, 03:46 PM
u found these fuses?

Shady
29th January, 2013, 03:56 PM
i dont. but i followed a guide on putting new pump in housing

ninja123
29th January, 2013, 08:49 PM
runner mate??

ninja

Shady
29th January, 2013, 09:03 PM
not yet. charging battery overnight, bro in law putting it all back together tomorrow am

xant14
29th January, 2013, 09:11 PM
Regards cruise..
I heard you may need new clips for the do dahs on the pedals.
Been reasding forums meself.. great choice of car btw. :top:

Meat-Head
29th January, 2013, 10:32 PM
what did i say about NOT letting the battery go flat?

If you removed the ENTIRE lot out the tank, then you just need an staples 'easy button' - but putting it back in, need to learn some new swear words.

it just came out on the one at M-H-M very easy, but buggered if can get it back in, the side of the tank is in the way!

Meat-Head
30th January, 2013, 02:53 PM
ON TOPIC:-

when sticking that lower thing back in the tank squeese the 'coat hanger' it is a bit of a spring that holds it in place.


bear in mind you will smell like a plant fitter for the rest of the day.

smirnoff_rules
12th February, 2013, 11:10 PM
is this up and running yet ????

Meat-Head
13th February, 2013, 08:51 AM
Proberly stil trying to get sodding pump back in

Shady
13th February, 2013, 09:56 AM
Apologies for not replying sooner. Yes car working now thanks for everyone's help. And meaty.. my bro in law fitted pump back in five mins lol

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Meat-Head
13th February, 2013, 03:17 PM
. And meaty.. my bro in law fitted pump back in five mins lol




before or after my post, shit idea, coat hanger to hold it down