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sk280
11th July, 2013, 06:49 AM
Hello All,

Note : This is a long post. I've posted the last sysCheck.csv at the end of this post.

I upgraded my virgin 4.1E wii to 4.3E wii and have installed USB Loader GX v2.3. Everything was working fine initially. However instead of leaving my wii alone, I downloaded ModMii, created a sysCheck file and launched ModMii with SU option. It proceeded to download some wads which I installed with mmm (using IOS236). Now for some reason, when playing games from my USB Flash drive the games suddenly hangs or freezes.

Examples are: New Super Mario Bros Wii from USB Flash drive (wbfs partition, wbfs file) hangs after the title introduction screen. The screen goes black and I'm forced to a reset. The same happens when I play Newer Super Mario Bros Wii (I built the ISO myself and can confirm before applying the Modmii - wads mmm patch, all levels were working and I never encountered wii freezing or black screen). Just to be sure it was'nt a defective flash drive, I installed the games into a new flash drive (FAT32, wbfs folder with the wbfs files copied) and I still experience the same errors. I also have OCARINA codes enabled in USB Loader GX v2.3 for the games mentioned.

Thinking it could be a USBLoader GX issue, I tried WiiFlow with the same result (games freezing or black screen). Thinking it might be IOS249 causing the issue, I configured USBLoader GX and wiiflow to use IOS222 with the same result.

Finally, after lots of frustration, I thought an official forced System Menu 4.3 update would clear out Homebrew and patch all official IOSs. Unfortunately it removed only Homebrew, CIOS, IOS222, IOS223, IOS249 and IOS250. I discovered after reinstalling Homebrew (via LetterBomb), Bootmii as IOS and then Prilloader 0.7 that it did NOT fix the original issue and the games continue to experience a black screen or freeze. The game still loads from flash drive and I can play for a while but it hangs randomly.

Frustrated now, I launched ModMii, started in W (wizard mode), answered I have a already softmodded wii and would like to reapply all softmods, downloaded and installed all the wads via mmm (mmmconfig using IOS236). I still experience the game freeze or black screen (esp after intro in NSMBW).

Can the experts tell me:
1. If my sysCheck looks okay? What I'm missing.
2. That the only way to restore a NAND backup when bootmii is installed as IOS, is by entering the Konami code with a GC Controller (after running KeyFix on the NAND Backup to fix the console id key). I ask this because I took a full NAND backup when I first installed homebrew but have no way of restoring this since I don't have a gamecube controller.
3. Using ModMii to downgrade my System Menu from 4.3E to 4.2E is safe? I want to do this to force an official 4.3 system menu upgrade to reinstall all official IOSs, so that I can start the softmod making the bare minimum changes (as I originally did first and got it right the first time).
4. If there is an easier way of restoring all the IOSs to virgin state (as close as possible, since I believe the wii can never be fully virginized).
5. When playing from USBLoader, can the crash/freeze be caused due to OCARINA being enabled? I believe not since it froze when I used WiiFlow (with no cheats enabled).
6. Is USB Loader GX v3 as stable as USB Loader GX v2.3 and will using that fix this issue?

All I care about now is to get my games to continue working again from USB Flash Drive (without crashes or freezes, with OCARINA codes enabled). Thanks in advance and apologies for the long post, I wanted to give as much info as possible. SysCheck report follows.

EDIT1: Reading some more posts in this forum and comparing the sysCheck report made by Keithuk (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/197566-keithuk/) on Jan 8 2013 from his wii, I can see that I'm missing IOS245 to IOS248 and IOS251. I also see that my IOS16 is a stub whilst his wii has the Trucha bug installed. I'll download d2x v8 Final wad pack from this forum and see whats going. Can anyone tell me what IOS16 does and if a patches IOS16 is necessary. Thanks.

EDIT2: Based on the post from Keithuk, I've installed d2x v8 final wad pack, IOS16 patch. I've posted the updated sysCheck.csv below. I'll play and test this for a while and revert. Meanwhile if any experts can answer the above questions, it'll be much appreciated as I'm unable to find conclusive answers to the above questions.

sysCheck v2.1.0b19 by Double_A and R2-D2199, Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL (original region: AUS)
System Menu 4.3E (v514)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 2008.07.14
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58
HomebrewFilter ist nicht installiert
Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: 951XXXXX
Boot2 v4
Found 77 titles.
Found 55 IOS on this console. 4 of them are stub.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS80 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS245[37] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS246[38] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS247[53] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS248[55] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[56] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10

Report generated on 2013/07/11.

Keithuk
11th July, 2013, 12:57 PM
Thanks for that full report. :joyous:

I don't see anything wrong with that sysCheck its the same as mine my sysCheck (http://syscheck.softwii.de/MKWDueNa). I'm just looking at any differences, the only slight difference you have IOS223[38+37] I have IOS223[38]. I used IOS223 from Full Cios wad pack (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/downloads/wii/16/full-cios-wad-pack-1949) just install IOS223 from that pack.

As you must have read in posts from me on here USB flash drives aren't really suitable as they don't hold much. I also use WBFS Manager to add games on my drive and they work everytime. I used a 4GB flash drive just to see if it would work. I added 4 games onto it and they all worked. I have used Wii Backup Manager when I was bored an a spare drive formatted NTFS and that worked as well.

Yours isn't an easy problem to fix. The other slight difference is your is Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58 now I've Google for HBC 1.1.2 but I can't find much info on it. If you used LetterBomb then that should have installed Homebrew Channel 1.1.0 running on IOS58, every Wii I've softmodded in the past year with LetterBomb have been 1.1.0.

sk280
11th July, 2013, 01:07 PM
Thanks for that full report. :joyous:

I don't see anything wrong with that sysCheck its the same as mine my sysCheck (http://syscheck.softwii.de/MKWDueNa). I'm just looking at any differences, the only slight difference you have IOS223[38+37] I have IOS223[38]. I used IOS223 from Full Cios wad pack (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/downloads/wii/16/full-cios-wad-pack-1949) just install IOS223 from that pack.


Thanks Keithuk. I actually installed all the wads from Full cios wad pack. I did a batch install. Infact the full Cios wad pack with mmm 13.4 has only: cIOS223[37-38]-v4.wad. I can't see cIOS223[38]-v4.wad. Do you know where I can find that and what difference it makes?



As you must have read in posts from me on here USB flash drives aren't really suitable as they don't hold much. I also use WBFS Manager to add games on my drive and they work everytime. I used a 4GB flash drive just to see if it would work. I added 4 games onto it and they all worked. I have used Wii Backup Manager when I was bored an a spare drive formatted NTFS and that worked as well.


The same flash drive has been working without issues until I installed the wads from Modmii (with SU). Initially I doubted the flash drive had gone bad, but when I installed the games to a brand new Toshiba flash drive this time as FAT32 with wbfs folder (all games as wbfs), the problem recurred. Besides the games dont work with Wiiflow as well.



Yours isn't an easy problem to fix. The other slight difference is your is Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58 now I've Google for HBC 1.1.2 but I can't find much info on it. If you used LetterBomb then that should have installed Homebrew Channel 1.1.0 running on IOS58, every Wii I've softmodded in the past year with LetterBomb have been 1.1.0.

I installed via LetterBomb but I did'nt use the bundled Hackmii installer. Instead I download the new Hackmii installer from bootmii.com/download. I'll uninstall this homebrew and install the old version of Homebrew (although I doubt that'll fix the issue). For whatever its worth, I'll install the games to a 100GB HDD and report. I should've never tampered with the wii that I softmodded and got it right the first time. If it aint broke...:( Anyway, can you take a stab at those questions Ive asked...Thanks again.

Keithuk
12th July, 2013, 01:37 AM
You never uninstall wads you just update with newer versions. LetterBomb (http://hackmii.com/2011/08/letterbomb) as always worked for me but if the Wii message doesn't come quickly I use the LEGO Indiana Jones The Original Adventures disc I bought before LetterBomb came out.

cIOS222[38]-v4.wad is ok as its 38 base not 38+37 just install that, thats what I use from Full Cios wad pack (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/downloads/wii/16/full-cios-wad-pack-1949) I install all those wads. As I said we are looking at ever slight different in your sysCheck compared with mine.

If you want the lastest wads download and run NUS Downloader v19 (http://wiibrew.org/wiki/NUS_Downloader) from Windows to make you own wads.

sk280
12th July, 2013, 04:03 AM
cIOS222[38]-v4.wad is ok as its 38 base not 38+37 just install that, thats what I use from Full Cios wad pack (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/downloads/wii/16/full-cios-wad-pack-1949) I install all those wads. As I said we are looking at ever slight different in your sysCheck compared with mine.


Ive checked twice. I have cIOS222[38]-v4.wad as you can see from my sysCheck. However I have cIOS223[37-38]-v4.wad and so does the Full Cios wad pack you linked to. You have cIOS223[38]-v4.wad which I cant seem to find to download. Do you remember where you got your wad from or did you make it? Its not available from modmii download page as well.

Today my wii froze again, this time when I was trying to update riivolution from Homebrew. So its not just in games

I'll try NUS Downloader for the latest wad. Thanks.

Keithuk
12th July, 2013, 11:07 AM
No your sysCheck shows IOS223[38+37] that why I pointed out. I'm not sure where I had it from I assumed Full Cios wad pack (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/downloads/wii/16/full-cios-wad-pack-1949) as I install all those wads. I'm not downloading that Full Cios wad pack to find out. It says I've downloaded 65 items which I haven't I've only downloaded about 10. I start you download the other then I find I already have it.

I've just tried NUS Downloader and that shows 65280 and the Latest Version downloads IOS223-64-65280.wad I'm not sure what base number it is but I wouldn't have though it was 64, I would have to add it to the SD card and check it in MMM.

I've just checked ModMii and that does download cIOS223[37-38]-v4.wad, I never use ModMii because I know what wads are needed.

I really must make my own 4.3 softmod thread with full detailed instructions. The problem is most users on here only come when they have a problem as they have probably been watching video's on YouTube which aren't much good or they don't show all details.

Try the attatchment.

sk280
13th July, 2013, 07:34 AM
Thanks Keith. I just saw your reply. Yesterday, I downloaded the CIOS 222 v4 installer and installed IOS 223 with 38 base merged. However as I suspected, I think I know why the crashes were happening. I think its because I had OCARINA engine with cheats enabled in USB Loader GX v3 and sure enough just after the intro screen in NSMBW I got a black screen. So I went and disabled OCARINA in USB Loader GX settings and I never got a black screen. Based on this result, I reconfigured USBLoader CFG to use IOS 249 instead of (IOS 222) with NO cheats enabled and NO Crashes.

So I think for some cheats (NSMBW - Enable all red coins cheat or the transformation pack) screws up the game and results in a freeze or crash.

I will update this thread with more progress as the days go by. Cheers.

Keithuk
13th July, 2013, 12:43 PM
Are you using USB Loader GX v3.0 as the title says USB Loader GX v2.3?

I don't bother with the OCARINA its OFF on mine, the cheats are just a gct file on the SD card if that file isn't there it will show an error when you try to tun the game but you can continue without it. Your best enabling the Error 002 fix in Loader Settings.

sk280
13th July, 2013, 02:49 PM
Yes I installed v3 yesterday. The cheats are enabled only when it's on and the gct file is present. If I turn out off the cheats don't work... I think the ocarine engine messes up game somehow got some cheats...

UPDATE: I've been playing Newer Super Mario Bros Wii (I created the wbfs from the retail NSMBW) the last 2 days with OCARINA turned off, loaded via IOS249 from CFG and ZERO Crashes or Freeze. So am almost positive its OCARINA engine or possibly the cheat itself that was causing the freeze and black screen. BTW, Ive tested this with USBLoader GX 2.3 and USBLoader GX 3.0 (have both versions installed) and the results the same.

I've leaned a lot in this process. For instance: about ModMii downloaded patched version of stubbed IOSs (I did'nt understand this earlier and thought ModMii installed wads caused the issue. I was wrong), about IOS16 stub removal (from Keith). Thank you Keith for your advice. Next step is play with the new D2X V10 r53 beta that has dual USB support).

One thing I've not received confirmation: Does anyone know if NAND can be restored when BootMii is installed as IOS without requiring a GC Controller (to enter the Konami code)??

UPDATE2: Ive played in over a week and have experienced NO CRASHES when OCARINA is turned off. I do experience crashes within 15 minutes of play when OCARINA is turned on. I've tested this with USB Loader GX v3 and CFG Loader on IOS249 with the above SysCheck. I did install d2x v10 r53 beta and experienced crashes without OCARINA on CFG. I quickly installed d2x v8 final as in my sysCheck above and everything's good again.