Carprog clone to original !!!

[markony79]

maybe the members is interested about this

Carprog clone (http://www.codecard.lt/carprog/carprog-clone-legalization/cat_126.html)

cheers

[teerak2uk]

Upa clone to original next then

[88diablo]

If i do a blue peter style clone out of Digi clone that I've painted red and get elprosys engraved on the case do you think they will upgrade me to original as Christmas promotion?

[teerak2uk]

Yes aslong as you put a holly sticker in the corner

[88diablo]

Do I have to get polish holly or will cloned holly from UK be ok?

[super jumbe]

maybe the members is interested about this

Carprog clone (http://www.codecard.lt/carprog/carprog-clone-legalization/cat_126.html)

cheers

I am not going to be the first guineapig!!!!!!

[88diablo]

I am not going to be the first guineapig!!!!!!

Why you think guinea pig? They want €700 for software, so if you are paying that wouldn't you just pay the extra €350 and treat yourself to a genuine device too? You pay the 7 and if course they will give you genuine software , they will just laugh when your clone doesn't perform correctly though and refer you to the Shenzhen support line. ;-)

[gttuning]

A hint!
For those customers who don't have Carprog tool and want to take this special offer, we suggest to buy Carprog basics (http://codecard.lt/carprog/carprog-universal-car-dashboard-immobilisers-airbag-and-car-electronic-repair-tool/prod_667.html) (371 EUR)
+ the update to Carprog FULL version (http://codecard.lt/images/file/Carprog%20Full%20UPDATE_2013%2011%2027.pdf) just for 700EUR TOTAL would be: 1071 EUR + delivery

Why would you go for this option better hint is bay clone for 49.99 with all adapters and then go for CARPROG clone LEGALIZATION (http://codecard.lt/carprog/carprog-clone-legalization/cat_126.html) FOR700 EUROS .SOME ONE IN CARPROG LT.NEED CALCULATOR!!

[captain crackers]

Best thing is to toss your clones in the bin and buy the genuine Carprog. This would appear to be a copy of the Digiprog offer. One thing for sure, someone is going to have their pants taken down somewhere along the line! Arthur.

[88diablo]

Do you really think that clone hardware is as good as original???????? If we are talking minor errors and Thousands if pounds difference then take your chance but OMG please!!!! You are willing to spend €700 on genuine software for a clone but you won't spend an extra €350 on proper genuine hardware????? Doooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! Said Homer.

[captain crackers]

Clone Hardware as good as original? Well how often have people bought an original and then had to repair it to make it work? There has just been a guy posting somewhere that he has bought a clone and done endless repairs on it thanking the forum for the help and it still doesn't work 100%. How many clones are faulty when they are bought? Arthur.

[88diablo]

Yes Arthur I see what your saying and I agree. My genuine cr@p goes wrong just as much as my clone cr@p but when digi is ?10000 straight but to upgrade clone is only ?1500 then you can see the benefits but with carprog then you spend ?600 on genuine software but you won't treat yourself to ?300 of genuine hardware then you should get yourself checked out. Genuine may (probably will) go wrong but at least you have some place to go.

[paul_12345]

Best thing is to toss your clones in the bin and buy the genuine Carprog. This would appear to be a copy of the Digiprog offer. One thing for sure, someone is going to have their pants taken down somewhere along the line! Arthur.

apart from the digiprog offer is a lot less than the original and the carprog is essentially the same price

[rukartinatv]

Someone exchange clone for original?

[gttuning]

I think carprog lt. did not think befor doing this clon-to original.They or willing to deal with cloners and give them org softwear for 700euros,whta about for better deal for full update for original users that bought the ori.tool for 2500euros!!.maybe make them better offer for full update NOT LIKE FOR CLONERS!!

[dimet]

NO MORE CARPROG CLONE TO ORIGINAL Carprog clone (http://www.codecard.lt/carprog/carprog-clone-legalization/cat_126.html)

[gttuning]

well i got pissed off send them a email what i think about it,and they probably had many more emails not so nice.What i told them is they disrespecting their own customers,offering full update for same price as full update for cloners.its fu... joke.

[paul_12345]

I think carprog lt. did not think befor doing this clon-to original.They or willing to deal with cloners and give them org softwear for 700euros,whta about for better deal for full update for original users that bought the ori.tool for 2500euros!!.maybe make them better offer for full update NOT LIKE FOR CLONERS!!

very simple, sell your original with what ever software version it has then buy clone and update to full you will save money this way... but if you dont want the clone and save money than what are you complaining about?

[gttuning]

Hi i have tool over a year and im complaining that they sell ori tool to people for more then 2k. and now they do updates for clones for same price as for ori tools.
if you would run a business like carprog lt. and sell some tool for 2k,and next day do update for clons,is that fair for your customers?i dont think so.
its smell like x-tool now.
this my opinion.good luck

[88diablo]

Everyone is moaning over clone update or drop in price? People who paid ?2500 moan update for clone is €700 but update original is same price. Original unit only costs €350 so how much more can they charge for clone update, €340???? Peoples real problem seems to be they paid top dollar and now price is halved a cross the board clone or original.

[paul_12345]

They currently sell original hardware for 350E and software for 700E you should be complaining they have reduced the cost.

if they dont update the clones its only 350E more anyway currently, and as I said if you think the clone deal is unfair, instead of spending 700E updating a year old carprog to full simple sell the original with a year old software for say 430E buy a clone for ~80E then update to original 700E so you will have spent only 350E rather than 700E for an upto date carprog SAVING you 350E if you dont do this you clearly think the original is worth the extra 350E and if its worth the extra 350E than as I said theres no reason to moan about the clone as 350E more they have an original.

[gttuning]

i dont cry about price reduce for ori tool,i bought my when they had offer. what is my point of view is,that is not fair for their own customers to support cloners.
any way they took this down for some reason. seeya

[paul_12345]

i dont cry about price reduce for ori tool,i bought my when they had offer. what is my point of view is,that is not fair for their own customers to support cloners.
any way they took this down for some reason. seeya

they wasn't supporting clones was they.. they was aiming at supporting themselves by converting clone users to paying customers which befits all customers when they have more money to invest.

The 700E is a license for the software! the clone user would have paid the same as the orginal user for the software, so your only complaining about 350E hardware cost and if you wouldn't do as I suggested then you believe the original is worth 350E over the clone that would be your choice when you could do what I said and save the 350E hardware cost so theres 0 logic in what you are saying

[gttuning]

im not looking at 700e or 350e.my point is that is not fair against the customer that bought ori month ago for 2500 ,some beginner and i believe some one did.
and if they want to support themselves why not drop prices,800 an they will have plenty of new customers and money to invest in the tool.
good night going to bed.

[paul_12345]

im not looking at 700e or 350e.my point is that is not fair against the customer that bought ori month ago for 2500 ,some beginner and i believe some one did.
and if they want to support themselves why not drop prices,800 an they will have plenty of new customers and money to invest in the tool.
good night going to bed.

??? you make no sense you just said you wasn't bothered about price drop now you saying you are??

They have dropped the price, and any new customer can pay 700E + 350E for original hardware or 700E + ~80E for clone this user would not be a clone user as they will have never used the copied software.

Its the same as carprog themselves buying chinese hardware and then selling 2 versions of carprog 780E for cheap no support hardware or 1050E for good quality hardware so your either complaining of the price drop in general or complaining that there is a slightly cheaper alternative using cheap hardware with no hardware support

So any new non clone customer had the option of buying a clone and updating to save money with cheap hardware at there risk or buy carprog's 350E hardware the same options as a user that has the clone already.

As for existing users you can either buy clone and update and have a second carprog original (outdated) or do as I suggested and you would probably save at least 350E the same as new / clone customers would have saved in having the clone hardware.

So as I said WTF are you moaning about if your not moaning about the price drop?

[gttuning]

:call: read post above yours carefully,and if dont know what im talking about.
my point is that is not fair against the customer that bought ori month ago for 2500 ,some beginner and i believe some one did.
and if they want to support themselves why not drop prices,800 an they will have plenty of new customers and money to invest in the tool.
good night going to bed.

[datapage]

Fight meaningless, every company has the right to change, modify, put the price you want about their products, while using their software you guys accepted their privacy policies and terms.
We have to thank for CARPROG not stop, good company initiative.
Saving even the original purchasers.
One way to stay alive.
Does not help you have an original if the company does not work anymore.
Company that does not break it, Good idea CARPROG company.
ps
Sorry for my english.

[paul_12345]

:call: read post above yours carefully,and if dont know what im talking about.
my point is that is not fair against the customer that bought ori month ago for 2500 ,some beginner and i believe some one did.
and if they want to support themselves why not drop prices,800 an they will have plenty of new customers and money to invest in the tool.
good night going to bed.

I see there is no point in having a intellectual discussion with you.

[gttuning]

I see there is no point in having a intellectual discussion with you.
good luck seeya

[digitaltech]

it "think" the underlying problem is that... this field odo,airbar, flashing etc... is 20x bigger then it was 10 years ago but ORIGINAL DEVELOPERs are trying to charge as much as they did 10 years ago(relative of course, or more). You can not have 20x the sales volume and not cut price because cloners will eat you up. In the end, when NEC chips get eventually hacked they will all cut prices but until then they will keep pulling your pants down.

If ORI DEV were fair, charge reasonable price and most of all provide proper support, and describe their capabilities truly, "MED17 buy OBD2", you fork over $$$ and then they say "oh yeah not supported version of MED17". Well fkcin describe the function better.
MORE ppl would buy ORI if they would feel they benefit.

Look at ORI XPROG, very, very good tool... but please basic xprog-box 700 euro for reading eeprom and some flash ? yes 10 years ago sure, these days not REALISTIC. I was looking for xc2361 and mac72xx... if would pay what darius was asking for those option but i can't justify spending 700 euro on base unit that does what 3 other tools i have already do so i bought carprotool for 300euro simple.
PROMO IS OVER FOR CP LOL

[carradio2001]

To "legalize" the CP clones is good for bussiness...chinese sell more CP clones, Codecard give more 700euro for each clone, forget the old customers, my opinion they rush to spend a lot of $$$ for a nothing !

Carradio2001.

[dimet]

CARPROG clone LEGALIZATION to original CARPROG AIRBAG FULL version

NEW PRICES ;-)
(http://www.codecard.lt/carprog/carprog-clone-legalization/carprog-clone-legalization-to-original-carprog-airbag-full-version/prod_1013.html)

[antibisic]

:joyous:
CARPROG clone LEGALIZATION to original CARPROG AIRBAG FULL version

NEW PRICES ;-)
(http://www.codecard.lt/carprog/carprog-clone-legalization/carprog-clone-legalization-to-original-carprog-airbag-full-version/prod_1013.html)


Yes but it is only for airbag:joyous:

[dimet]

And for full version
CARPROG clone LEGALIZATION to original CARPROG FULL version (http://www.codecard.lt/carprog/carprog-clone-legalization/carprog-clone-legalization-to-original-carprog-full-version/prod_1005.html)

[einet]

Moment!

Legalization for BASIC -> 399
Bay ORGUINAL BASIC -> 371 !!!!!!

What is wrong?

[gttuning]

Moment!

Legalization for BASIC -> 399
Bay ORGUINAL BASIC -> 371 !!!!!!

What is wrong?
management ........

[einet]

this must be a joke from carprog!

only software for 399 and for 371 is interface+ software!

this can't be management!

[gttuning]

this must be a joke from carprog!

only software for 399 and for 371 is interface+ software!

this can't be management!
its not fools day yet,

[paul_12345]

Biggest flaw with carprog their updates.

They need yearly prices so you can buy the whole year and have updates when released not have to buy all seperate options for new updates.

Also not fair that you could buy all the new updates for ??? each year as they are released, then someone comes along and pays 700 and they get all the softwares.

The need to do like other mileage correction tools eg;
current year = 400e (need current year -1 software already)
current year -1 = 300e (need current year -2 software already)
current year -2 = 200e (need current year -3 software already)
current year -3 = 100e

if they did this new customers pay the 1000e for software, but existing customer are rewarded by being able to have new updates as they are released and at a reduced rate.

I'm sure they would have most users paying the yearly fee this way, and also encourage a lot more people to buy an original even if they have most coverage that they need already.

[forscheezee]

I just "legalized" my clone to the Airbag Full package. So far works great! Reads MAC and Infineon chips through OBDII port.

Anyone else buy the legalization?