MVP pro

[ninja123]

Has anyone managed to hack an mvp?

I heard of a locksmith that adds his own tokens!!

Ive been offered a broken unit and would like to try to make it live again, but need data from working unit.

A tall order I know, but worth a shot!!

ninja

[bigkey]

How to help ?

[rapidlocksmiths]

there was talk of someone in west mids who could flash these to overcome tokens , downside being that it can never be updated again .

i know one guy who was considering removing chips and reading them with tokens loaded , then using kit , then trying to reload old dump back on with tokens again , never heard from him again so not sure if he tried or if he killed his unit.

the few jobs i need mvp pro for , its not worth it , so just swallow token cost on these , it pays for itself in its free functions like pin reading and remote programming .

at end of day is it worth it as can never be updated if altered .

[ninja123]

I think updatdes are not the important bit here, just getting it working would be good :)

Anyone know what ic data is held in? ie tokens, password, version etc etc, may just rip it apart when i get it and have a look anyway.

ninja

[whiskeyman]

here is inside chinese M8
pictures of board and chips
45mb file
no password required

https://www.mediafire.com/?5b8f5ipocpkqm9c

[looly]

there was talk of someone in west mids who could flash these to overcome tokens , downside being that it can never be updated again .

i know one guy who was considering removing chips and reading them with tokens loaded , then using kit , then trying to reload old dump back on with tokens again , never heard from him again so not sure if he tried or if he killed his unit.

the few jobs i need mvp pro for , its not worth it , so just swallow token cost on these , it pays for itself in its free functions like pin reading and remote programming .

at end of day is it worth it as can never be updated if altered .

I was using a genuine mvp pro to pull pin from a 2000 vw transporter last week. The machine said that it would use 1 token to do this, I hit ok but it could not pull the pin. I tried several times, plenty of battery power but still couldnt read it via obd. Ended up reading the tms directly with upa then programming key with the mvp pro.

[autofan1965]

When you dont have working key then it is imposible to access immobox and ecu in this year dont have pin because it is immo2.

[looly]

When you dont have working key then it is imposible to access immobox and ecu in this year dont have pin because it is immo2.

Now it makes sense :)

[key point]

[QUOTE=looly;2260736]I was using a genuine mvp pro to pull pin from a 2000 vw transporter last week. The machine said that it would use 1 token to do this, I hit ok but it could not pull the pin. I tried several times, plenty of battery power but still couldnt read it via obd. Ended up reading the tms directly with upa then programming key with the mvp pro.[/QUOTE

no machine will pull the pin on this via OBD.

[912secured]

Buy a real one and use clones 50 percent of the US lockies that are not scammers do it. Thats why I think they still charge so much for tokens. Used only 8 tokens over 3 years. 27 still on the clock. They have to know. Told them I use the sdd updates per car are cheaper and had for ever not including factory equipment.

And their book helps newbees even if they are using clones,and clones break and fall apart just like real ones. If I ran my pro 100 percent I would of needed 3 or 4 and that would take away all the money I made.

Updates are your biggest problem and anything that needs a ad900 to make a key they are making shure it needs it now, can not even use a legit different machine of same maker has to be made for AD. So the euro keys are done.

[aassfour]

we can do it
254842

[totalkey]

we can do it
254842

Price please



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[aassfour]

we didnt set the prices yet
but it works as normal with the update no problem

[totalkey]

You mean update with advance regular loader?


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[aassfour]

yes normal update but with steps u need to follow

[whiskeyman]

send me pm with price please

[aassfour]

plus we can unlock TCODE for all software and plus we can now transfer the M8 Key Pro to the original MVP Pro + updates
and those Blacklisted Machines we can unlock them

[Tomthomasxx]

MVP M8 i know, tokens problem always

[Tomthomasxx]

you can contact with this women, xxxxx dinna zhen
i have got her offer before

[aassfour]

we will release all info after few hours on our website

[aassfour]

here you can find the info MVP TOKEN - I-obd2 (http://i-obd2.com/mvp-token.html)

[54321]

Can't AD trace that the tokens have not been purchased legitimately and wipe your tokens off the system, is that a possibility?

[aassfour]

no they cant if u follow my procedures
plus we can unlock those blacklisted MVPs

[paul_12345]

anyone paying 2/3 the original price and risk loosing their MVP needs the head testing. Seems f*cking greedy to me

[darrenhyland]

I would agree 100%..................not worth the risk for a 1/3 saving plus AD have an unlimited plan for those who are hard on tokens.

[Automat]

This is great news!! M8 will be coming soon without tokens from our Chinese engineers?

[rapidlocksmiths]

i have to agree that its not worth risking an original tool for such a small saving , for m8 users the m8 tokens are far cheaper , more than half the price .

[aassfour]

There is no 1% risk since we are not changing anything in software or hardware . 100% safe and plus for those blacklisted MVP or Tcode who has no chance to update their products they can now get the full update on our loader the same day AD release an update. And if u don't find saving 1000$ is worth it !!! That means u r one rich locksmith. And if u find that this is greedy well u need to take in the consideration the cost of making such a project .



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[paul_12345]

a decent locksmith wouldn't use a lot of tokens on their mvp so wont save much at all

also I'd rather consider how much more money AD have put into making it rather then paying someone near original price to reward them for breaking the security.

I think you got your market for this all wrong, the only real use for this would be to sell a keygen for your serial to give unlimited tokens so people can use MVP as a first choice rather than only use it when their other token savers can't do it - especially for the key pro m8

[paul_12345]

also how does CHALLENGE/RESPONSE work on blacklisted / key pro m8?

[workdamnyou]

I'd be happy to pay a grand for 3K tokens and never update it again. Too risky to update. We have 2 AD100 Pro's as well. Wouldn't risk ending up with 3 door stops.

[whiskeyman]

just by even opening your real mvp
makes your tool invalid by ad
not worth it for that alone

[aassfour]

also how does CHALLENGE/RESPONSE work on blacklisted / key pro m8?

A calculator is provided


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[sparkz02]

As interested as I'am does sound rather risky trying to update it there after.

[aassfour]

a decent locksmith wouldn't use a lot of tokens on their mvp so wont save much at all

also I'd rather consider how much more money AD have put into making it rather then paying someone near original price to reward them for breaking the security.

I think you got your market for this all wrong, the only real use for this would be to sell a keygen for your serial to give unlimited tokens so people can use MVP as a first choice rather than only use it when their other token savers can't do it - especially for the key pro m8

U r missing the whole point , giving a keygen ??
It's not a keygen, it's an online server that we have created same server as AD and u will use a loader the same way as AD and if those who wants unlimited tokens that will definitely get detected by AD when they will see the increase in token when u update it. while our system can't be detected since u save ur tokens in the loader and u add it to the MVP one by one whenever u want it without getting detected.
And price near original ?? Come on it's almost half price. If u don't consider that is saving I don't know wt u do


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[aassfour]

As interested as I'am does sound rather risky trying to update it there after.

Everything in life is risky . Buying Chinese tools is risky and still we buy them and get screwed.
this is not risky cz we are not changing firmware and we are not changing hardware . The update will stay on and on plus we offer update for the blacklisted as we showed in the pdf . The tool stays original we only add tokens


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[igorr]

This is somethig like voskan doing he update ad100 and T code on last version but I dont know is he can load tokens on mvp

[ray-ray]

Can you make 2 out of date Tcode Pro into MVP pros with 3000 tokens? As the trade in for my units is $500.00 each. Both are oem pros with the beginner starter program.

[aassfour]

Can you make 2 out of date Tcode Pro into MVP pros with 3000 tokens? As the trade in for my units is $500.00 each. Both are oem pros with the beginner starter program.

I'm ready to buy those 2 units , can u provide me with pic and versions


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[paul_12345]

U r missing the whole point , giving a keygen ??
It's not a keygen, it's an online server that we have created same server as AD and u will use a loader the same way as AD and if those who wants unlimited tokens that will definitely get detected by AD when they will see the increase in token when u update it. while our system can't be detected since u save ur tokens in the loader and u add it to the MVP one by one whenever u want it without getting detected.
And price near original ?? Come on it's almost half price. If u don't consider that is saving I don't know wt u do


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Its only half the price on the low tokens, and if this would save 1000's as you claim then you must be using it a lot, and if you use it a lot you'd buy 250 tokens a time so no its not half price its 2/3

Also I never said it was a keygen did I, I said it would be better if you sold a 'keygen' eg. sell unlimited tokens for a one off payment, else maybe get away with selling tokens at 1/3 price.

[rapidlocksmiths]

ok , i can see how someone who uses mvp alot could benefit from tokens at this price , but you would have to use it alot , most do not as already token free on most things .
i can see how a blacklisted unit can benefit .

most auto locksmiths i know use very few tokens a year as only use mvp pro on those odd jobs that its not worth being token free yet , so no benefit for them.

im struggling to see how the keypro m8 users benefit , as the m8 tokens are already half your price .

im not having a dig , im just struggling to see the positives for the average user .

you know AD will get wise to this and put something in place to combat it , so the risk is high at end of day for the long term future of the unit .

i may have this all wrong , but i am struggling to see the benefits to anyone other than the guys who use nothing but token machines and for them deals of unlimited tokens for 12 months already exist .

[aassfour]

ok , i can see how someone who uses mvp alot could benefit from tokens at this price , but you would have to use it alot , most do not as already token free on most things .
i can see how a blacklisted unit can benefit .

most auto locksmiths i know use very few tokens a year as only use mvp pro on those odd jobs that its not worth being token free yet , so no benefit for them.

im struggling to see how the keypro m8 users benefit , as the m8 tokens are already half your price .

im not having a dig , im just struggling to see the positives for the average user .

you know AD will get wise to this and put something in place to combat it , so the risk is high at end of day for the long term future of the unit .

i may have this all wrong , but i am struggling to see the benefits to anyone other than the guys who use nothing but token machines and for them deals of unlimited tokens for 12 months already exist .
u may have right from your point of view , but the way i see it is :
no tool is compared to what AD tool is capable doing and doing it right while other tools sometimes f***ks the car. with these tokens if u get lets say 100 tokens its only 10$ the token so u r getting the job done guaranteed for 10$ cost only specially for those newer complicated cars where other tools might fail. what M8 can benefit from that is the latest update offered by AD so they turn their clone to original. those with blaklisted tool they can now get the tool fully running plus update.
and about AD , fortunatly they know about it and at the moment they cant do anything. what they can do is as follow: reclaim all tools back to change the processors or they will stop supporting MVP PRO and that wont be in near future and make a new tool with different system. and they know how that it costs. for the next couple of years they will do nothing except accepting the fact that it happened. PS: we are not changing any firmware or software or anything, we are just adding tokens to those units that u will consume offline. so no way for them to know how many you consumed. for example: lets say u have updated the MVP today with 10 token in it, and within 1 week u have consumed 5 tokens and there is a new update, before updating online you add 5 tokens from our loader to bring the total back to 10 tokens as the last update. and when u update ur MVP the server detect that u have 10 tokens as previous update and as no change has made to ur tool. that way AD will not detect which tool is using our token. as simple as that

[paul_12345]

u may have right from your point of view , but the way i see it is :
no tool is compared to what AD tool is capable doing and doing it right while other tools sometimes f***ks the car. with these tokens if u get lets say 100 tokens its only 10$ the token so u r getting the job done guaranteed for 10$ cost only specially for those newer complicated cars where other tools might fail. what M8 can benefit from that is the latest update offered by AD so they turn their clone to original. those with blaklisted tool they can now get the tool fully running plus update.
and about AD , fortunatly they know about it and at the moment they cant do anything. what they can do is as follow: reclaim all tools back to change the processors or they will stop supporting MVP PRO and that wont be in near future and make a new tool with different system. and they know how that it costs. for the next couple of years they will do nothing except accepting the fact that it happened. PS: we are not changing any firmware or software or anything, we are just adding tokens to those units that u will consume offline. so no way for them to know how many you consumed. for example: lets say u have updated the MVP today with 10 token in it, and within 1 week u have consumed 5 tokens and there is a new update, before updating online you add 5 tokens from our loader to bring the total back to 10 tokens as the last update. and when u update ur MVP the server detect that u have 10 tokens as previous update and as no change has made to ur tool. that way AD will not detect which tool is using our token. as simple as that

thats not true is it?? at this point in time you may well be correct and AD may not be able to tell, but there is plenty AD can do with future software or hardware updates / addons. They could even make an update that allowed you to carry on doing this whilst logging tokens etc then start banning people or deleting any data in the processors to render you mvp a door stop.

Also if you use MVP a lot you can do the yearly unlimited deal which is not that far off your 250 token price so wheres the savings???

The only benefit would be if your tokens were cheaper, or you did an unlimited tokens - especially usefully on key pro M8 as no one would care about updates if they got the lastest to date with unlimited tokens

[H.Wessel]

hi

I will give you my two cents, from the time mvp pro was cloned by chineese token became a matter of time,
soon or later they will come with a unlimited-token free version (crappy-halfworking hardware as usual).

So the are two choices:
- take chineese clone, activate updates with loader and full refill with tokens for being use as main unit
- keep original as last resort device and keep getting updates

mixing both will give bad result in long term, everybody knows.

Best regards
H.W

[rapidlocksmiths]

Ok i can see the update advantage for keypro m8 users being able to update to latest software versions , but why at present would they , the current software on m8 works well and the tokens are far cheaper than yours , so in updating to latest version software brings with it a much higher token cost than m8 current prices , so for those using mate for mostly the functions it has now gives them not alot.
so i believe m9 users are out of the equation , as already get wide coverage and far cheaper tokens.

AD are the most consistent supplier that is true , reliable etc , but not without issues on latest software versions , and still some gaps in coverage , yes they are working on them all the time and always updating .

i dont understand the claim of other token free units messing cars up , personally i use ad100 , zedbull with obd leads , avdi original , truecode original etc all which give me a wide token free coverage of most of what i need , mvp pro is used maybe 20 times a year only .
many have ad100 pro token free on the common stuff using mvp pro for those odd jobs not covered so im struggling to see how these benefit ?

the guy with mvp pro who uses it every time as only kit he has , he will be financially better off on the token free deal from ad than on the tokens from you especially as its common to burn multiple tokens on more awkward cars , so even for them it will be more financially viable to risk nothing and go on a token free deal .

i wish you luck with what you are doing , but still for most cant see any real long term benefits , other than those with blacklisted machines etc , good luck , i just struggle to see a market for you , but im no expert and may well be wrong as not my area of expertise .

for me its stick with AD on the little use i use mvp pro on.

i think you underestimate reactions , i think the m8 makers will react with cheaper tokens and cheaper token free options , and AD are a large set up with clever software engineers and deeper pockets , i cant see them ignoring it at all , after all the loss of token sales for any period of time would be a huge dent to revenue , so i would expect them to act quickly , as not in their interests not to , i would be very surprised if they just sat back and ignored it.

[totalkey]

How is the m8 machine ? What is last update?

I see is version 10.72
How long ago is this update?


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[rapidlocksmiths]

about a year to 18 months i think

[key point]

For anyone with a genuine MVP pro who wants to update the tester by the AD system, this token loader programme will not work for long.
AD do not have to recall testers, all they simply have to do is a 2 minute job on changing there own token loader programme and the exceptance software on the tester.
The fake token system will then work until people update there tester. Once the tester is updated and you try to load the fake loader tokens, the updated tester will identify the fact that a third party loader system is being used and the MVP says bye bye and you are blacklisted.

[aassfour]

For anyone with a genuine MVP pro who wants to update the tester by the AD system, this token loader programme will not work for long.
AD do not have to recall testers, all they simply have to do is a 2 minute job on changing there own token loader programme and the exceptance software on the tester.
The fake token system will then work until people update there tester. Once the tester is updated and you try to load the fake loader tokens, the updated tester will identify the fact that a third party loader system is being used and the MVP says bye bye and you are blacklisted.

Blacklist ? :D we are unlockin the blacklist. 2 minutes job ? Why they didn't do it yet ? they knew about us since 2 months and still they didn't do anything and they released update and still nothing changed . Whenever AD do updates on their loader and tester automatically our loader is updated. they simply can't do anything about it except recall or releasing new testers with new PCB and new system :) unfortunately for them.


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[darrenhyland]

Sorry Mate but its a BIG NO for me....too much risk for too little gain...........don't forget if your unit gets blacklisted then you get blacklisted too..........my future in this business is at stake and I look a little bit further than next week..........AD do great work in my industry, constantly researching and redesigning their systems which result in better equipment for us which equates to more money in my pocket......I would suggest you think a little harder about the type of clientel you are pushing this on............we are no fools and we didn't get where we are from making rash and stupid decisions.

[aassfour]

Sorry Mate but its a BIG NO for me....too much risk for too little gain...........don't forget if your unit gets blacklisted then you get blacklisted too..........my future in this business is at stake and I look a little bit further than next week..........AD do great work in my industry, constantly researching and redesigning their systems which result in better equipment for us which equates to more money in my pocket......I would suggest you think a little harder about the type of clientel you are pushing this on............we are no fools and we didn't get where we are from making rash and stupid decisions.

That's ur opinion and I respect that. I'm not pushing anythin on anyone . Those who likes it are welcome and those who doesn't they have my respect . I'm just explaining wt we did and wt are the advantages of it. If u find it risky that it's ur choice but Many finds it useful .


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[paul_12345]

That's ur opinion and I respect that. I'm not pushing anythin on anyone . Those who likes it are welcome and those who doesn't they have my respect . I'm just explaining wt we did and wt are the advantages of it. If u find it risky that it's ur choice but Many finds it useful .


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If you offered update to latest software for key pro and unlimited tokens, then maybe charged for updates then I'm sure you'd do better, I'd consider buying a m8 to get it updated to current + unlimited token even if no more updates for a reasonable price

maybe if the chinese do not update theirs in 6-12 months then you might stand a chance converting m8 users (if you still can then) but as rapid said not really that much more updates worth paying more token cost atm for m8 users

Also if you think the price are ok why have they been removed from your website?

[aassfour]

If you offered update to latest software for key pro and unlimited tokens, then maybe charged for updates then I'm sure you'd do better, I'd consider buying a m8 to get it updated to current + unlimited token even if no more updates for a reasonable price

maybe if the chinese do not update theirs in 6-12 months then you might stand a chance converting m8 users (if you still can then) but as rapid said not really that much more updates worth paying more token cost atm for m8 users

Also if you think the price are ok why have they been removed from your website?

We will take that under consideration and might offer new price plans


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[54321]

Like Paul said i think you're better of targeting the m8 user. However you can get 250 m8 tokens for under $900 so i think you would need to compete with that kind of price plus bring the machine up to the current software version.

And i'm suspecting the Chinese won't be too far behind you with a similar offer.

[gmb45]

take this into consideration, it seems to me that one person in this thread is selling/trading/dealing, this is not allowed on dk, all i can see in this thread is we do this we do that, also this -----> We will take that under consideration and might offer new price, if thats not trading on dk i dont no what is, closed, and that person better watch his step !!!