NATS Lock Mode P1610 ???

[z786]

Hi Guys,

got a nissan almera here x reg '00.
the owner rewired the radio, now car is showing up code
p1610 nats fault- lock mode

car is not starting, any ideas how to "unlock" immo??

thankyou in advance

[Meat-Head]

I'm inclined to say agree with Oasis and say "maybee just maybee" one of three things when you say "rewired"

1) customer has cut o/e nissan plug off which MITE (or not) loop out b+ to im*o box (pug 106)

2) Customer has caused a "high reistance in the fuse box area" - interior lite fuse blown

3) something else, but not the above

ask the punter if he can put back old stero?

did the battery go flat

[z786]

the orignal stereo is fitted to the car, but the o/e plug is cut out? no idea wat he was doin. when i scanned the car first time there wer more nats fault codes i.e
p1612
p1614
p1615

when i cleared them p1610 remains, lock mode. i read somwer u need to nissan consult tester to "unlock" it.

basically the rewiring of the stereo caused the car voltage to drop, then customer tried starting it causing immo fault, 4 consecutive tries "locked out" the ecu to start at all

just need a method of unlocking

thanx

ps. does nissan supercode work for this model??

[Meat-Head]

i had a simular experance with a primera our kit refused to do the airbag, so i popped it to a nearby 'freind' and used their x431, plugged it in, bing, bash, bosh, airbag, suck, blow, light out jobs a carrot, crancky crancky, no start, 'same shit' disconnected battery, hiho silver away, (can't remember if i RECONNTeD the battery or not)

try it you might like it.

[z786]

my friend, from wat i figured out, u was trying to say was...

disconnect battry, then reconnect?

will giv try in mornin, i doubt it will make much difference, btw wat scanner u use??

[Meat-Head]

my friend, from wat i figured out, u was trying to say was...

disconnect battry, then reconnect?

will giv try in mornin, i doubt it will make much difference, btw wat scanner u use??


that Is correct, if disconnecting battery worked, then charge the customer for a "software hard-reboot"

it was an X431 that was out of date.

[z786]

i wil try in mornin, any other ideas? my scanner gives me option to login to nats system, any idea wer i can get a code or if supercode works??

thanx

[Meat-Head]

try pincode.n*t
THINK it tells you to look at the key reader behind barrell and the code for that car is....

the bloke properbly won't want to spend any money on it

[z786]

is dat a website??

[Meat-Head]

* it was the thought that counts*

either i'm wrong (don't care if i am) or it has been removed

look at this instead KeyMam Locksmith Shop | http://www.KeyMam.com-Nissan SuperCode Software (http://www.keymam.com/product_view.asp?pid=94)

[z786]

iv got that software, jus wanted to know if it works with almera??

[Meat-Head]

iv got that software, jus wanted to know if it works with almera??

dunno, but you can share that software if you want, lol

[z786]

dunno, but you can share that software if you want, lol

i cant find my setup file, but user adam28 also uploaded same prog

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f115/nissan-supercode-54339/

hav fun, if you hav any more suggestions lemme knw yh

thanx

[Meat-Head]

yeah, if you can't fix it you could always make it so nobody else can fix it.

think the rolling stones where right "(fu*k it &)paint it black"

did i say check all the fuses inc the ones for "power ashtray " and "heated mudflaps"

[z786]

heated mudflaps lol
iv jus checked on another website, the stereo is linked to immo, need to rewire stereo most likely........

[Meat-Head]

oh do tell what website it was.

is the stero wiring connected to the 'sideward facing foo-foo valve' ?

oh, just remind me what the first thing i said on this thread?

[rafekj]

almera,almera tino and primera p12... they have fault with conection in plug no M31. u can get subharness for it from nissan dealer or replace pin conectors on SECU and ant amplifier - reading coil on ignition barrel. 4 wires.
check if that is ok and then use coded key to unlock the lock mode : 5 x ignition on & off. i that will not help disconect battery remove SECU, strip it down and conect wire to the ground circuit on main board of SECU and make short with all pins to memmory chip. MAKE SURE U DISCONECT PLUGS FIRST.
It always worked for me. worked for nissan for few years.

[z786]

oh do tell what website it was.

is the stero wiring connected to the 'sideward facing foo-foo valve' ?

oh, just remind me what the first thing i said on this thread?

http://www.lsc.com.au/doc/28738.pdf

page 3.1, hav fun

[z786]

@ rafekj

just a couple of things plz
-where do i find the plug m31?
-is the SECU and ant amplifier the black box on ignition barrel?
-5 x ignition on & off, do i do that like 5 seconds off & 5 seconds on?
-disconect battery remove SECU, strip it down and conect wire to the ground circuit on main board of SECU and make short with all pins to memmory chip., can i hav plz abit more detail on how to do this?

all your help is appreiciated thankyou

p.s. does nissan supercode work for nats system 5? if so where do i find the serial on key box?

thanx

[rafekj]

@ rafekj

just a couple of things plz
-where do i find the plug m31?
-is the SECU and ant amplifier the black box on ignition barrel?
-5 x ignition on & off, do i do that like 5 seconds off & 5 seconds on?
-disconect battery remove SECU, strip it down and conect wire to the ground circuit on main board of SECU and make short with all pins to memmory chip., can i hav plz abit more detail on how to do this?

all your help is appreiciated thankyou

p.s. does nissan supercode work for nats system 5? if so where do i find the serial on key box?

thanx

so:
-plug m31 is the one in coilreader/antamplifier- little black thing on ignition barrel - 4 wire plug
-the SECU is located (uk spec cars):
a/ on left side of steering column with 4 plugs
b/ under radio unit
-ingnition on & off x5 (all job up to 10 sec.)
-just connect 1 end of wire to ground circuit on main board and with 2dn end touch gently all pin of all chips on board.
-I never tried nissan supercode but see attachment where u can find code. it's one of BCM, im*o, SECU.

[bonecrusher]

Hello .Z786 did you manage to sort the car out?.What immo version(nats 2,3,4,or5) does the vehicle have.Does siemens make the immo unit?.

I am having a similar problem on A nissan which uses the nats step 4 system.We program the key in but after a while it goes off program.Driving me insane

[z786]

Hello .Z786 did you manage to sort the car out?.What im*o version(nats 2,3,4,or5) does the vehicle have.Does siemens make the im*o unit?.

I am having a similar problem on A nissan which uses the nats step 4 system.We program the key in but after a while it goes off program.Driving me insane

hi, its nats 5, siemens do manufacture the immo.

iv still had no luck!!! i keep getting code
p1614 chain of immu-key
p1610 lock mode

i reckon rafekj is rite, its the ignition coil.

@ rafekj, if i get secondhand ignition coil will it need to be programmed? or isit jus plug n play? personally i think wen the stereo was wired, it shorted a ground somwer that leads to ignition coil.
also the SECU was located, it only had 3 plugs, is it the rite 1? (picture attached) had siemens written on it, but no code for NATS pin

sorry 4 2 many questions

thankyou

[Meat-Head]

Hello .Z786 did you manage to sort the car out?.What im*o version(nats 2,3,4,or5) does the vehicle have.Does siemens make the im*o unit?.

I am having a similar problem on A nissan which uses the nats step 4 system.We program the key in but after a while it goes off program.Driving me insane

Had a micra doing the same, seem to think battery dud cell had something to do with it, but was LONGGG time ago.

[rafekj]

hi, its nats 5, siemens do manufacture the im*o.

iv still had no luck!!! i keep getting code
p1614 chain of immu-key
p1610 lock mode

i reckon rafekj is rite, its the ignition coil.

@ rafekj, if i get secondhand ignition coil will it need to be programmed? or isit jus plug n play? personally i think wen the stereo was wired, it shorted a ground somwer that leads to ignition coil.
also the SECU was located, it only had 3 plugs, is it the rite 1? (picture attached) had siemens written on it, but no code for NATS pin

sorry 4 2 many questions

thankyou

can u give me vin number?
i will send u manuals and nats code for it:P(for nats i may ned more info but i need vin first)

[z786]

hi, iv got a pic of the key reader attached

vin no: SJ***************

i was thinkin if i replaced with second hand keys,keyreader and SECU, would it start the car? or could wiring to keyreader be faulty?

thankyou

any1 here reckon im*okiller or im*ocleaner mite work??

[Meat-Head]

[QUOTE=z786;307230]hi, iv got a pic of the key reader attached

i was thinkin if i replaced with second hand keys,keyreader and SECU, would it start the car? or could wiring to keyreader be faulty?

QUOTE]

i would get the engine ecu as well.
seems strange how the guy fits his radio and now no go

I have heard of "video killed the radiostar", but this looks like
"radiostar, killed the car"

does the coil reader have voltitude? any at all

[rafekj]

hi
have immmo code if u need :7053
if u replace im*o u will need new code. I'm here to give y one:P
sending few pages from nissan online, that may help.

[z786]

************PROBLEM SOLVED****************
The coil reader was gettin the right current and when i unplugged it the NATS light would go out so i know it was working, so i logged in to NATS system and recoded the keys with code Rafekj gave me, problem solved. Car started straight away. I still cant figure out how the im*o lost key memory by cuttin stero wires??

Anyway thankyou to:

Rafekj
Sixpack
Meat-head

Really appreciated your help, if i can be of any assistance.........

@rafek, out of curiosity, wat did u use to calc the code??

[rafekj]

************PROBLEM SOLVED****************
The coil reader was gettin the right current and when i unplugged it the NATS light would go out so i know it was working, so i logged in to NATS system and recoded the keys with code Rafekj gave me, problem solved. Car started straight away. I still cant figure out how the im*o lost key memory by cuttin stero wires??

Anyway thankyou to:

Rafekj
Sixpack
Meat-head

Really appreciated your help, if i can be of any assistance.........

@rafek, out of curiosity, wat did u use to calc the code??

I have access to nissan online:D - I worked for nissan sevice.

[Meat-Head]

i would guess what has happened is/was as the punter cut the stereo wiring he more than likely causes a voltdrop
which make the nats 'forget' the keys.

bit like your mate who lives in nowhere, as the kettle turns on/off lights dip

seen it 'hundrads' of times.

somebody make this mistake with a cat1 alarm, doing this
then told the bloke it's f**ked, but made an even bigger mistake of asking me what i thought, 'oh yeah, click, clunk, beep beep, there you go'....got a bolloking afterwards
boss had just perswaded the guy to fork out for a new control unit.....sometimes reading books and internet
isn't helpful at all.

[z786]

you know i noticed in immokiller and immoclnr 2 there arnt any immo bypasses for jap cars, wat soft or method would be used 2 bypass??

thnx

[rafekj]

Hello Rafekj.(...) .You said that there was a repair harness for the nats system.Do you have a part number for the repair harness.Man thanks

Regards

I post it here because I think it may help to other people.
See attachments - it will help:)

[ChrisM1]

I have the same problem and look forward to reading this guide.

[mecano_diag]

I'm inclined to say agree with Oasis and say "maybee just maybee" one of three things when you say "rewired"

1) customer has cut o/e nissan plug off which MITE (or not) loop out b+ to im*o box (pug 106)

2) Customer has caused a "high reistance in the fuse box area" - interior lite fuse blown

3) something else, but not the above

ask the punter if he can put back old stero?

did the battery go flat


good idea!!!

[Meat-Head]

good idea!!!

Yeah I'm full of them, but only have friends when they want something.

i'm pissed off and going to bed if anybody wants my services, it would be nice to get some bits and bobs from tesco.com, but if the pretty bird is working tonight, she will end up with some free verbal abuse.

I'm one of them people that are IMPOSSABLE to upset, and the bird at tesco.com REALLY upset me with 3 words last week.

[PremierD]

Go on then mate .... what were the three little words then......?

[Meat-Head]

Go on then mate .... what were the three little words then......?

"oh it's you"

She was lucky not to have neen wearing the bottle of milk i had in my hand at the time.

[gq_madness]

thanks for the info guys

[gq_madness]

Ok so i have transplanted at TB45e from a Nissan Patrol GU into an older vehicle. I have hooked up the the ecm according to the workshop manual. When i try and start the engine the Malfunction lamp start blinking when i get the fault code i get a 1401 which seems to be a nats error. Unfortunatley i dont have the NATS unit or im*u from the donner car. is there any way i can disable the nats check at the ecm or provide a dummy nats signal or can i get the ecm reprogrammed by nissan. If not what are my alternatives?
In the wiring diagram for the donor engine it refers to a configuration without NATS so i was wondering if i could source a ECM without NATS if that would work? otherwise i guess i will be up for a standalone aftermarket ecu. Any suggestions appreciated.

[tayab_44]

thank you v much

[cjawahir]

hi
have immmo code if u need :7053
if u replace im*o u will need new code. I'm here to give y one:P
sending few pages from nissan online, that may help.

hi can you tell me how you got the code , and what software you used .

thank you cj

[krazylegz]

hi can you tell me how you got the code , and what software you used .

thank you cj


obviously you dont read posts mate.

he already said he didn't use software as he has access to nissan online

[yusef]

please help, need pin code for almera 2003 nats5
siemens L 28590 c 9965 made in mexico
5WK4 8043C 31366C
get 0433 from nissan supercode but wrong !

[bluedid]

this calg can not make pin for this type of immo (it is only for 5digits convert to 4digits Pin), you should use another program Nissan Nats 5 via K-Line (but I have not try it if works..) good luck

[cjawahir]

this calg can not make pin for this type of im*o (it is only for 5digits convert to 4digits Pin), you should use another program Nissan Nats 5 via K-Line (but I have not try it if works..) good luck

what interface can be use with this software ?

cj

[yusef]

hi bluedid

seen nats 5 utility software but dont know how to use ?

k line connected where: on obd socket or on immo box connection ?

dont want to take any experiment on customers car, without having precise info /instructions on which pins connect where into rs232 port ?

anybody used this successfully ?

[bluedid]

as I have mention before "I do not have try this program" if anybody has try it please help us.:giveup:
I believe that a diagnostic should be used via k-line to read the "code" ...

thanks

[cjawahir]

hi , the k line is to the im*o module .

here is a pdf file with a circuit to interface the module to the computer .

cj

[bluedid]

you have made this adapter and you have connect to a pc and you work with it? I believe this adapter is only for "omega programmer" not to work alone..

[cjawahir]

no did not make it and test it . just taught it was important

[zemaitaitis]

hello how looks nats 5 control module

[mecale]

Please.. I need pin..:dong:
70475A
245C
thanks....

[u.s]

i am getting the same P1610 error on a Nissan Almera.
can some one please provide the immo code to reprogram a key picture of Immo box attached, if you need vin number or other information please let me know,

thanks

[rafekj]

Sorry guys but I'm not able to provide NATS codes anymore as I lost access to nissan online :/

[Air]

Supercode works on NATS 5 at least on USA market Nissan and Infinity cars. Regards

[Air]

Let me know if your car has a Body ECU because I don't know Euro Nissan Immobilizer System. On USA Nissan the Body ECU has S/N on it that is needed converts to 4 digit Immo code. Is it the same on EURO Nissan? Regards

[u.s]

thanks guys, pic of bcu attached...

[Air]

According to Body ECU pic. I dont't see any S/N on it but on Immo ECU box you mention above probably is one as 8043C or C9965. Please try this 2282 or this 7786. Let me know if it works for your particular EURO Nissan Immo. Regards

[Air]

11689
i am getting the same P1610 error on a Nissan Almera.
can some one please provide the immo code to reprogram a key picture of Immo box attached, if you need vin number or other information please let me know,

thanks

You can see yourself

[agabna]

hello
u can use ad100 our mvp chose nissan type 8 read bcm no use nissan super code to convert it u ll got the pin code
go to type 4 program the key

[smosha]

Hi Guys,

got a nissan almera here x reg '00.
the owner rewired the radio, now car is showing up code
p1610 nats fault- lock mode

car is not starting, any ideas how to "unlock" immo??

thankyou in advance

You'll find that the ignition lock is loose on the steering colume and needs tightening by replacing the shear bolts and fileing some metal off the clap that hold the lock on, once that done un plug the nats arial and squosh the teminal a little some make a good connection, then turn the ignition on 3 times starting it on the third time.