Mercedes star diagnosis

[dimosbmw]

Hi DK friends. I open this post cause i need some help about star diagnosis. After many searches i didn't manage to find a helpful site so i decided to ask for help here! So can anyone know the differences between compact 3 and compact 4?
If i buy a compact 3 now will it be able to handle updates?
I aslo need someone to explain the exactly function of each software(wis,wis net,das,xentry?,etc.):hmmmm2:
Sorry if i am boring but i need some help. Thanks in advance.

[Patrian]

Hi DK friends. I open this post cause i need some help about star diagnosis. After many searches i didn't manage to find a helpful site so i decided to ask for help here! So can anyone know the differences between compact 3 and compact 4?
If i buy a compact 3 now will it be able to handle updates?
I aslo need someone to explain the exactly function of each software(wis,wis net,das,xentry?,etc.):hmmmm2:
Sorry if i am boring but i need some help. Thanks in advance.

1st: Compact3 is the Classic Multiplexer Interface
2st: Compact4 is the NEW Multiplexer Interface WITH Touch Screen
3st: YES, YOU CAN take updates for Compact3
4st: WIS = Workshop Information System (Program with Technical Informations, Manuals etc)
5st: EPC = Electronic Parts Catalog (Program with ALL Spare Parts in one Catalog)
6st: DAS = Diagnostic Information System (Program for Diagnose)
7st: Xentry = The NEW Special Diagnostic System (Like DAS) but with NEW functions and only FOR THE NEW MODELS
8st: SD Media = Storage Data with REAL VIDEO and Special information
9st: Star Finder = Mercedes Star Finder includes color wiring diagrams and information about the location of car components of electrical circuits, including sensors and connectors for the following models: 129, 170, 171, 202, 203, 208, 209, 210, 211, 215, 219, 140, 220, 230, 240, 463, 163, 164 and 251

THAT'S ALL m8!!!!!

I hope to get it..... lol

PS
ΕΛΠΙΖΩ ΝΑ ΣΕ ΚΑΤΑΤΟΠΗΣΑ ΕΚΤΕΝΕΣΤΕΡΑ.....

[dimosbmw]

each software of these is standalone or i must have a compilation of these so i can run one of them??? Thanks

[Qrius]

1st: Compact3 is the Classic Multiplexer Interface
2st: Compact4 is the NEW Multiplexer Interface WITH Touch Screen


If i may correct you ;)
Compact3 is the 15" touchscreen diagnosis computer that works with the Actia D3 multiplexer


The Compact3 W is the Wireless version that is be able to work with the new model multiplexer ( SD-CONNECT ) and the old multiplexer

Compact4 is the latest diagnosis computer from Daimler
it has a 13,3" touchscreen and works
with SD CONNECT but allso be able to use old Actia D3 as well

Hope this will help :)

[hectorconnector]

One of the biggest difference tween C3 and C4.
Wires/no wires!
I like wires!
All softwares should be installed on a PC, as they interact when installed correctly. Check out this website

[spajdermen]

for ORGINAL COMPACT4 and ORGINAL COMPACT3 Check this website

[Patrian]

for ORGINAL COMPACT4 and ORGINAL COMPACT3 Check this website Home (http://www.profidiagnose.com)

YEA!!!!! ORIGINAL "CHINA"!!!!! :guns:

Did you know how much it has the ORIGINAL Multiplexer m8?????

[alexopth1512]

Compact3/4 will work with Smart vehicles?

[nguyennhatquang]

no, it work with any car of mercedes, you can see in DAS.

[Qrius]

Compact3/4 will work with Smart vehicles?

Yes it can work with any Smart verhicle!!
Only thing that enables/disables this option is the License key for DAS ;)

[softguy2]

c3 is perfect working..

[billboard]

Star Diagnosis information

Created: 22 Aug 2007
Last Updated: 29 Dec 2007
Version 1.2 28th August 2007
This document describes the Mercedes Star Diagnosis system. In Germany this is known as 'Star Diagnose'. Star Diagnosis is also known as SDS or DAS by Daimler Chrysler, although the acronym DAS is also used for the electronic key system.
It briefly covers the J2534 system that Mercedes make available in the USA for updating and configuring the emissions related systems on Mercedes vehicles
Star Diagnosis (SDS) is a complex system that consists of various parts


Ruggedised Laptop, or Laptop in special cradle
Multiplexer
Cables
DAS Software (The 'Star Diagnosis' program)
Optional MT measurement system.
Optional WIS (workshop information system) software

Over time it has been available in various forms, each new release containing faster/better hardware.
The two ranges of Star Diagnosis are known as the 'Basic' range and the 'Compact' range.
The Star Diagnosis Basic range has essentially a much lower specification ruggedised PC, and thus is not sold with the ability to interface to the MT system to have WIS, or to use the latest wireless multiplexer.
The current 'Star Diagnosis Basic' system is known as the 'Star Diagnosis Basic2', and the current Star Diagnosis Compact system is the Star Diagnosis Compact 3W system.
Hardware details: -
Basic 1 - Ruggedised PC made by IME Actia with Celeron 400Mhz processor, 128MB memory and 20GB har drive with Windows NT 4.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3839/sdbasic.th.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/sdbasic.jpg/)

Basic 2 - Ruggedised PC made by IME Actia with Mobile Celeron-M 600Mhz processor, approx 512Mb memory and 60GB hard drive, 10.4" XGA screen, with Windows XP. It has USB 2 serial ports, the pen is tied to the system and its a blue colour as oppose to the grey Basic 1 system
http://www.mercupgrades.com/pictures/SDS/SD_basic2.jpg
Compact 1 - IBM laptop PC in special metal cradle
Compact 2 - IBM T20 or T23 PC, in special metal cradle. Windows NT
Picture of Compact 2, out of its docking station with extra power adapter.
http://www.mercupgrades.com/pictures/SDS/SD_compact2.jpg
Compact 2 Station MT - A compact 2 with MT measurement system (see later) and printer in a nice workshop trolley.
Compact 3 - Tablet PC with 15" XGA touchscreen, With Windows XP, 1.1Ghz Pentium M, 512MB Ram, 60Gb hard drive
http://www.mercupgrades.com/pictures/SDS/SD_compact3.jpg
Compact 3W - Same as Compact 3, but with integegrated Wireless LAN, possibly with larger disk and more memory.
The latest system brochuers are available from www.startekinfo.com (http://www.startekinfo.com/) click on 'MB Workshop Systems' and then 'SDS'
Multiplexer Details
The multiplexer is the interface between the PC and the car's diagnostic port. The current multiplexer connects to the PC with a cable and is made by I+ME Actia and is called the Part D3 multiplexer. It then connects to old and new Mercedes models using different cables.
Picture of Part D multiplexer.
http://www.mercupgrades.com/pictures/SDS/partD.gif
The Part D multiplexers have serial numbers in them, and if the DAS software detects a stolen/unlicenced one, apparently it locks them out, possibly for good (possibly by flashing duff software into them).
Picture of the multiplexer connector on a SD Compact 2 cradle
http://www.mercupgrades.com/pictures/SDS/SD_muxport.jpg

[billboard]

Daimler Chrysler are shortly releasing a wireless multiplexer called 'SD Connect' - it will connect to the PC wirelessly, and only to vehicles with the 16 pin OBD-II port. (anything after, but not including the W210 E class / W208 CLK / W202 C)
Picture of SD Connect wireless multiplexer
http://www.mercupgrades.com/pictures/SDS/SD_connect.jpg
Star Diagnosis will support a number of other multiplexers, included is the I+ME Actia Part-X multiplexer, although absolutely no information is available on how that works or how to make a normal Star Diagnosis system connect to them. There is also a Part-Y multiplexer that is also apparently used within DC research / factory environment.
Details of the I+ME Actia Part-X can be found at I+ME Website (http://www.ime-actia.com/web_diag/vci.htm)
Part X Multiplexer picture
http://www.mercupgrades.com/pictures/SDS/partX.jpg
Before the Part D3 multiplexer there were Part A, Part B, Part C and other Part D multiplexers with different functionality - I have never seen them
If you have any information on these or the Part-X or Part-Y i'd be very interested!
MT Measurement System
The MT measuement system is basically a re-packaged Hermann HMS-990 digital oscilloscope. The latest versions connect to the Compact 3 via USB. In the Compact 2, a PCMCIA card was supplied that plugged into the docking staion.
http://www.mercupgrades.com/pictures/SDS/HMS_990.jpg
There are litterally hundres of different connectors that connect the HMS990 to the vehicle.
Cables
Various cables are needed for the Part D multiplexer.


PC to Multiplexer - available in various lengths
Multiplexer to OBD-II
Muliplexer to 38 pin port
Multiplexer to 4 wire
Multiplexer to truck connector

Picture of PC to Multiplexer cable
http://www.mercupgrades.com/pictures/SDS/mux_cable.jpg
Picture of 16 pin OBD-II Cable

Picture of 38 pin older vehicle cable
http://www.mercupgrades.com/pictures/SDS/38p_cable.jpg
Part Numbers
The part numbers below often have to be prefixed with Z to order them - these are European part numbers, and sometimes US part numbers differ for the same parts)
Systems
6511 3500 99 Compact 2 Docking Station
6511 3450 99 Compact 2 (IBM T2x) battery
6511 3715 99 Basic/Basic 2 Battery
6511 3720 99 Basic/Basic 2 Charger
6511 3710 99 Touchscreen pen (x5) for Basic
6511 6103 99 Battery for Compact 3 / W
6511 6105 99 Touchscreen pen (x5) for Compact 3 / W (US part nr 965 589 37 10 00)
6511 6104 99 Charger for Compact 3/W
6511 6112 99 Power supply unit for Compact 3/W
6511 6116 99 Compact 3/W protective cover
Multiplexer
6511 1002 99 D3 multiplexer - there are other part numbers also
Cables
6511 1106 99 5M Cable between PC and multiplexer (US part 963 589 11 06 00)
6511 1111 99 10M version of above
6511 1121 99 20M version of above
6511 1200 99 4 pin vehicle cable (US Part 963 589 12 00 00)
6511 1220 99 14 pin truck cable
6511 1240 99 16 pin OBD-II cable (most new cars) (US Part 963 589 12 40 00)
6511 1260 99 38 pin older passenger car cable (US Part 963 589 12 60 00)
6511 1280 99 Mitsubishi Canter cable
6511 1577 99 SDS Test/Car Charging cable
Misc
6511 1650 99 Cushion to turn airbag off when SDS on front passenger seat. (US Part 963 589 16 50 00)
Picture of SDS Test/Car charging cable, used to charge the Basic/Compact units from a car and for testing the diagnostic port on the system.
http://www.mercupgrades.com/pictures/SDS/test_cable.jpg

[Bigovic]

Compact3/4 will work with Smart vehicles?

Yes will work, if you use 450 Modell is better use a older version!

[hilmibezgin]

Hi all,

Is there a way to build my own diagnosis system by getting all the modules in a MBStar system and software. I mean the original one is too expensive. Do you think chinese systems are of good quality? Has anyone used a Chineese MBstar before? Thanks

[oldmerctech]

Hi all,

Is there a way to build my own diagnosis system by getting all the modules in a MBStar system and software. I mean the original one is too expensive. Do you think chinese systems are of good quality? Has anyone used a Chineese MBstar before? Thanks


Most the MBstar available on ebay and such like have taken a big price increase recently. You could buy an old ibm t30 and find a lead set with multiplexer. Most of these have a harddrive included for the T30. Made my set up for under ?500. Definately chinese copy but it works. The leads are of a poorer quality than the standard ones but work ok for light use.

[CarmasterAndrew]

The difference just one. C3 works ONLY with D3 MUX, C4 works with D3 and SD Connect MUX

[CarmasterAndrew]

Work with MB Star 2000 about 5 years

[superman1979]

Hi I have a laptop star diagnosis compact3w and can not regulate the display setting in the analysis is off work with Dash and xentry can someone help;;

[brumetw]

The difference just one. C3 works ONLY with D3 MUX, C4 works with D3 and SD Connect MUX

So the first buy is C4 right ?

[antonypaul]

each software of these is standalone or i must have a compilation of these so i can run one of them??? Thanks


Dear M8,
Hi this is Antony Paul i need your mail id kindly send it my mail id honeyautomotive@gmail.com thank you

Antony :thrasher:

[rambo66]

Hi
You have a recommendation for beginners, which apparatus, equipment, and price I should buy me