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paulsta
18th August, 2018, 11:42 PM
Hi all,

Please could I have some advice on a tool to help me program a ford transit connect 2016 key

Many thanks

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rob h
19th August, 2018, 12:50 AM
cloning might be an options!

paulsta
19th August, 2018, 08:44 AM
We have no key to clone, is this my only option?

Cheers

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Weasel3
19th August, 2018, 10:44 AM
2015-2016
PATS CAN BCMII 4

Seems to be possible.

paulsta
19th August, 2018, 03:09 PM
is there a way of reading the original stored keys that are lost?

sleepyrz
19th August, 2018, 04:57 PM
eeprom i assume

not sure of target chip tho

paulsta
19th August, 2018, 05:01 PM
Same here, I'm hoping someone can help me?

Cheers

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MarkPRP
19th August, 2018, 09:10 PM
Connect is the same as Fiesta, AD100/MVP pro makes it easy and can see how many keys and clear. AVDI can also

paulsta
19th August, 2018, 09:19 PM
I was hoping to be able to write the transponders to match the stored keys, is this possible?

Cheers again for the help

wintesla
19th August, 2018, 09:32 PM
Key is in relation with
BCM, PCM, ABS.....
Somtime need hour or two to add key

paulsta
19th August, 2018, 09:49 PM
Can I dump the bcm and read the existing keys? Is this what you are saying?

Thank you

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paulsta
21st August, 2018, 02:35 PM
does anyone else know if this is possible, I might be asking something silly here but i am learning and will always give feedback of what i have done,


Cheers :)

EMCE159
22nd August, 2018, 01:13 PM
does anyone else know if this is possible, I might be asking something silly here but i am learning and will always give feedback of what i have done,


Cheers :)

I tried today. Failed to clone with Vvdi key tool and handy baby. Then I tried with skp900, also failed.


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paulsta
22nd August, 2018, 01:16 PM
Must be an eeprom or MCU to tackle somewhere?


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keymax
22nd August, 2018, 06:36 PM
What country are you in? Most in the US don’t have the transponder system enabled. The RHK keys are 40bit integrated 4D but can be converted to 80bit with the vvdi key tool to use either way. The remote system is OBP.


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paulsta
22nd August, 2018, 06:48 PM
What country are you in? Most in the US don’t have the transponder system enabled. The RHK keys are 40bit integrated 4D but can be converted to 80bit with the vvdi key tool to use either way. The remote system is OBP.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI'm in the UK,

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keymax
22nd August, 2018, 06:51 PM
I'm in the UK,

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When they do have immo active here the keys are stored in the Smart Junction Box


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paulsta
22nd August, 2018, 06:53 PM
When they do have immo active here the jets are stores in the Smart Junction Box


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDo you know what eprom or MCU I'm looking for?
I can dump it then,

Cheers

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keymax
22nd August, 2018, 07:20 PM
Do you know what eprom or MCU I'm looking for?
I can dump it then,

Cheers

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I’ll take some pics when I get back to the shop


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jodge
22nd August, 2018, 07:24 PM
I was copy 2015 or 2016 i don't remember with Handy-Baby. Online copy to a JMD G chip, with the pc connection program, under chinese Ford or something. 10 minute job

paulsta
22nd August, 2018, 07:26 PM
Cheers mate, I appreciate that
I’ll take some pics when I get back to the shop


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paulsta
22nd August, 2018, 07:29 PM
Thank you Jodge but I have no keys for this van and want to read eeprom or MCU to get the existing key info
I was copy 2015 or 2016 i don't remember with Handy-Baby. Online copy to a JMD G chip, with the pc connection program, under chinese Ford or something. 10 minute job

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solitaire
22nd August, 2018, 08:11 PM
Do you know what eprom or MCU I'm looking for?
I can dump it then,

Cheers

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here is Ford Transit 2016, maybe Ford Transit Connect is same.

http://SSmaker.ru/3c69a52e.jpg (http://SSmaker.ru/3c69a52e/)

paulsta
22nd August, 2018, 08:23 PM
here is Ford Transit 2016, maybe Ford Transit Connect is same.

http://SSmaker.ru/3c69a52e.jpg (http://SSmaker.ru/3c69a52e/)Do you have the connection points for reading as they are blurred out?

Cheers again

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rapidlocksmiths
22nd August, 2018, 10:34 PM
ad100 pro , mvp pro , smart pro from advanced diagnostics will all do this key by obd , as should abrites and the tdb1000 with ford software , you can just add a key with these machines .

paulsta
22nd August, 2018, 10:41 PM
ad100 pro , mvp pro , smart pro from advanced diagnostics will all do this key by obd , as should abrites and the tdb1000 with ford software , you can just add a key with these machines .I don't have that kit and that is why I want to read the key info from the van, I am able to write transponders,
Thank you for your help though

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szengen
22nd August, 2018, 10:43 PM
someone who is chasing cars from the last two years is strange, wait after two years and one second warranty

paulsta
22nd August, 2018, 10:48 PM
someone who is chasing cars from the last two years is strange, wait after two years and one second warrantyIt's not strange when I'm trying to help a friend who has it on hire purchase,
It also gives me chance to learn,


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MarkPRP
23rd August, 2018, 08:37 PM
But why do you want to write transponders with data from car? I don't think anyone understands?

paulsta
23rd August, 2018, 08:40 PM
But why do you want to write transponders with data from car? I don't think anyone understands?Maybe my thinking is wrong? I just wanted to get keys working, can I change this info?
I am learning and any help to point me in the correct direction would be good

Cheers

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rob h
23rd August, 2018, 08:46 PM
Ford transit and transit custom share same system.
2014-2016 immo in bcm.
and the 2017+ is bcm with nec D70F3637

Not the connect.

MarkPRP
26th August, 2018, 12:39 PM
So Paul, Get a tool that can simply OBD add the key in and thats the job done.. no need to read any eeprom data. As i've said MVP/AD100, Smart pro and even many of the chinese made tools do it..

paulsta
26th August, 2018, 12:49 PM
Cheers mark, will the MVP clone work?

So Paul, Get a tool that can simply OBD add the key in and thats the job done.. no need to read any eeprom data. As i've said MVP/AD100, Smart pro and even many of the chinese made tools do it..

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rapidlocksmiths
26th August, 2018, 02:47 PM
No as the mvp clone has far older software on it than this has , an original mvp unit with smart dongle is needed or smart pro , the clone will do up to 2012 , but wont get near the 2016 model , without smart dongle and on some other machines that claim to do these it may be up to 5 hours to code key .
machines that can do these include

original mvp with smart dongle
smart pro
abrites
tdb100 with ford software
zedfull

some china units like obdstar , skp900 and lonsdor claim to do them

but be aware , dependent on bcm fitted , it could be up to 5 hours with some machines if they succeed

suddenly doing a mate a favour may get expensive , where as if you have a friend with correct kit get them to help or pay a locksmith with the kit .

p1et
26th August, 2018, 03:08 PM
30+ posts talking over the week about simple 5 min programming job.

If I don't have a tool to to the job I don't take it...

And the tools capable of doing this were mentioned by Mark and rapidlocksmiths

paulsta
26th August, 2018, 03:25 PM
30+ posts talking over the week about simple 5 min programming job.

If I don't have a tool to to the job I don't take it...

And the tools capable of doing this were mentioned by Mark and rapidlocksmiths30+ very helpful posts to someone that's learning,

You know because you had to learn at some point? Or did you just know?

I'm grateful to the guys that are willing to help

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paulsta
26th August, 2018, 03:29 PM
No as the mvp clone has far older software on it than this has , an original mvp unit with smart dongle is needed or smart pro , the clone will do up to 2012 , but wont get near the 2016 model , without smart dongle and on some other machines that claim to do these it may be up to 5 hours to code key .
machines that can do these include

original mvp with smart dongle
smart pro
abrites
tdb100 with ford software
zedfull

some china units like obdstar , skp900 and lonsdor claim to do them

but be aware , dependent on bcm fitted , it could be up to 5 hours with some machines if they succeed

suddenly doing a mate a favour may get expensive , where as if you have a friend with correct kit get them to help or pay a locksmith with the kit .Cheers for the info, I will have a look at the kit

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Meat-Head
26th August, 2018, 10:23 PM
ON TOPIC:-

was talking to some locksmith from botswarnia, he mentioned something
about he was told unplugging bcm with battery on killed it.

ALso the guy said some ford update, if system locked by remote can't programme keys to it
he muttered one and only key gets locked in boot, 2 new keys and new bcm!

sleepyrz
28th August, 2018, 03:54 AM
ON TOPIC:-

was talking to some locksmith from botswarnia, he mentioned something
about he was told unplugging bcm with battery on killed it.

ALso the guy said some ford update, if system locked by remote can't programme keys to it
he muttered one and only key gets locked in boot, 2 new keys and new bcm!



i think he may be talking out his ass?

ALBERTO_
28th February, 2019, 04:37 AM
Hi. I just programmed two Transit 2017.

I used the ids. V12.5.
The first truck starts the vin with the number "1", it was programmed fast with the waiting time of 10 minutes.
The second begins the letter vin "W", this program as follows, access to pats, tells me that I need Internet access and have a username and password, I say yes and show error, now I open the page of ford PTS and I enter in Oasis, and entered the car vin, return to Ids and start the PATS procedure again, warns me that I need an internet connection and a username and password, I give enter, ids open a page in the browser and I'll accept it in page browser, return automaticalle to the ids, and start coding the duplicate. Ends correctly.

In conclusion the European transit need access to Ford PTS with valid username and password.

Regards.
(sorry... my inglish is very bad).

Automat
1st March, 2019, 05:10 PM
Programmed 2018 transit connect standard key with F100 little green programmer...My own personal vehicle, worked good.