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p1et
1st August, 2023, 09:35 PM
Hi,
I bricked Juke 2016 with proxy key. I used Lonsdor at first. It read BCM with 4 digit PIN code in no time, then proceed to key registration.
The tool asked me to turn igniton off and close the car with remote control if I have one, so I did.
Then procedure of adding key started, at first I push the start button and put original key close to coil but suddenly saw error on dash and no any immo blinking sign. So at this point, procedure went bad, something goes wrong. Then I tried to proceed further to add second key, procedure finished but car doesnt start, the second key have locked status.
Then I tried reprogram only original key, no luck. When I put close to button, I hear 2 beeps but no immo flashing sign. I tried Smart Pro, procedure goes through the end but doesnt register keys.
Any tips? I though Juke 4 digit pin id46 are safe...
Manta1600
1st August, 2023, 09:58 PM
Hi,
at first I push the start button and put original key close to coil but suddenly saw error on dash and no any immo blinking sign.
Truecode and Autel instruction is - press the start button once with the logo of the key
What about the steering lock is it open or closed now?
p1et
1st August, 2023, 10:25 PM
I saw and think it's the same, no matter you push button with key or push button and then put key close to it because tool says you have 5 second to put key close to it after pressing. Anyway I tried pushing button with the key later on.
Steering wheel moves a little bit, I didnt try harder just in case it locks and won't allow to unlock, maybe towing will be needed. But lonsdor is able to do function of release and engage steering lock and it apparently works.
For example I enter programming and it says it can't engage steering lock, then I go back and choose manually engage steering lock it says succes and then go to program keys it connects and start procedure.
The most important thing is there is no immo light flashing on dashboard. When I put key close to button it beeps 2 times but no any immo light, like something is messed up and it can;t register keys,
jodge
1st August, 2023, 11:12 PM
You can't actually program key(s) in Nissan system. You only able to start the pre-defined key registering process. If the key learning process started the only way if it's went wrong either the BCM is broken or full of bugs. Try to disconnect the battery for few hours and start again
Sorry man this is fu.cked up i feel 'ya
Manta1600
1st August, 2023, 11:36 PM
Did you check do you have label on the glovebox?
Maybe this is 12 digit system but Lonsdor wrong recognised as 4 pin system
Also take out the BCM and read the eeprom and maybe some tool can program the keys back
p1et
1st August, 2023, 11:37 PM
I left disconnected overnight and we will see...
Tomorrow will look for sticker but not expect it in this year but maybe... Only heard about 12 digit PIN code in 2011-2013 models. Also will read BCM eeprom to see the content.
And if this car wake up which I think will be sooner than later, I will never ever again connect to ANY Nissan car after 2011, honestly...
I only bricked 2 cars, it was Renault and Nissan and now they are working together at full strenght...
Weasel3
2nd August, 2023, 12:02 AM
With this system.
Push button 1-2 second - release.
And at the same time -Hold key, close to button - but not push.
Wait for red flash in dash, it think it is 5 times.
And do NOT push brake pedal, at the same time.
When doing this.
I use other tools.
But I guess, many tools can do the job.
I think only older Juke, with ignition lock use the 12 digit.
lion0304
2nd August, 2023, 12:24 AM
Last year i've made Navara NP300 2017 AKL with smart key same as Juke, Micra: TWB1G662 - CWTWB1U825 by Autel.
After programming, dash show ikey error. So i just press any button on the smartkey and error go out.
vialli
2nd August, 2023, 03:34 AM
Maybe you need more tools
Autel does NOT have any damage warnings on the Juke prox
Watch this movie carefully, this guy works with Autel KM100 which communicates via bluetooth and due to lack of concentration he makes mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPQ0oS0sciM&ab_channel=KHANZAKEYS
He has 2 keys and he tried to program the second key again like the third key, he got confused between YES and NO
Finally he managed to finish successfully and started the car
So be more confident, look for an Autel with your friends and try programming the keys
AS TIPS !!! press the START button with the key logo as Manta wrote
Press for one second..two or more until the button lights up and you hear 2 beeps
Autel has Immo status scan which shows you very clearly the state of the car
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p1et
2nd August, 2023, 06:59 AM
So left car battery overnight, the ignition doesn't comes on unitl I connect tool and login via some of the system (the very first I tried at the beginning doesn't communicate) then after entering PIN, the ignition opens and procedure is open but it's fcked up, I can't see red immo at all, no flashing no solid. The car is able to lock/unlock from central locking button inside the car. Steering wheel is unlocked, can't lock it. When the tool says steering lock engaged it lets me jump into programming mode but steering lock is actually unlocked.
I will try Autel next 3 hours and let you know.
In the video above the red immo is flashing, its the most important. In my case it's invisible at all, it just doesnt accept any key. I understand he closed procedure wrong but then just repeat and all is good. If red immo flashing that's a good sign the procedure is trying to register and in my case not even trying.
alex_r_2001
2nd August, 2023, 07:41 AM
Check and see if vehicle has a aftermarket remote start bypass module installed or a GPS that connects to (immo wiring/data lines). they always interfere with key programming procedures... goodluck
Manta1600
2nd August, 2023, 07:55 AM
Autel can't help in this situation - I think that first must sort the problem with the steering lock
Do you have some related fault codes?
you can try emu like this
https://www.mk3.com/nissan-altima-2007-2011-steering-lock-emulator
Spiritech
2nd August, 2023, 08:22 AM
Sounds as though the start stop button is not seeing a key when the registration mode is opened. Have you checked for the transponder aerial signal at the button? I had one which did similar, someone when repairing SSB damaged wiring had mixed up the two grounds.
turismou
2nd August, 2023, 08:39 AM
My friend was also doing Juke from 2014 i think, he entered programming before checking the key (KD could not read the key as coil was damaged). It behaved the same way. We thought it was ESL so he tried emulator, did not work. Then he took bcm out and added a key directly, did not work either. He then virginised bcm and adapted it to car with abrites, after that he programmed 2 new keys and car was up and running. There are really not many things that could go wrong with juke, you have to have nerves to figure it out though. Its not like DeathList bcm cars.
p1et
2nd August, 2023, 10:06 AM
Sounds as though the start stop button is not seeing a key when the registration mode is opened. Have you checked for the transponder aerial signal at the button? I had one which did similar, someone when repairing SSB damaged wiring had mixed up the two grounds.
But in my case I hear 2 beeps when registration is open and I put key close to button so I think it's good(?)
My friend was also doing Juke from 2014 i think, he entered programming before checking the key (KD could not read the key as coil was damaged). It behaved the same way. We thought it was ESL so he tried emulator, did not work. Then he took bcm out and added a key directly, did not work either. He then virginised bcm and adapted it to car with abrites, after that he programmed 2 new keys and car was up and running. There are really not many things that could go wrong with juke, you have to have nerves to figure it out though. Its not like DeathList bcm cars.
I did check the original key before going to the car, it was recognizable.
topclef
2nd August, 2023, 11:39 AM
try to read BCM eeprom 93C66 / 76 maybe corrupted .
it happened to friend after try to add key for Juke 2014 ,after reading eeprom we have found two keys programmed but not activated
HeXeN
2nd August, 2023, 01:52 PM
I would have spare steering emulator on the shelf just in case. There is 3 types for nissan.
Also how much people charge for this job? I see some people ask 100-150usd. How this compare to the money earned with lonsdor which is most s..t programmer I have and without backup I wouldnt even touch any car.
I also never updated this tool because its not worth the money spent.
p1et
2nd August, 2023, 02:25 PM
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That's the Autel scan, 1 error in BCM and 1 error in dash. Can't see ECU status so idk, should be seen here.
try to read BCM eeprom 93C66 / 76 maybe corrupted .
it happened to friend after try to add key for Juke 2014 ,after reading eeprom we have found two keys programmed but not activated
Thanks for info, so what was the solution to activate keys if obd procedure doesn't work? The BCM is deep under steering wheel, need more time to look into, im alone.
topclef
2nd August, 2023, 03:21 PM
Read and post eeprom file ( if the same cas as my friend , we're lucky ) we try to solve this issue
fred77
2nd August, 2023, 06:23 PM
Had one last year only truecode worked out of 4 other tools
What about trying another key - just 1 new.
Good luck didn't think these could have issue
p1et
2nd August, 2023, 06:53 PM
I will try Zed-Full tomorrow. I tried 2 different keydiy keys, apart from reprogramming original. I found on fb group someone fought really hard with ZED to make it work after he thought its already bricked and also heard from other 2 people that ZED saved them.
Unfrtunately dont have truecode and none of my friends own. Not popular tool in Poland.
If no luck I will try read BCM eeprom and at friday Im arranged with dealership for diagnostics if needed.
fred77
2nd August, 2023, 09:57 PM
I will try Zed-Full tomorrow. I tried 2 different keydiy keys, apart from reprogramming original. I found on fb group someone fought really hard with ZED to make it work after he thought its already bricked and also heard from other 2 people that ZED saved them.
Unfrtunately dont have truecode and none of my friends own. Not popular tool in Poland.
If no luck I will try read BCM eeprom and at friday Im arranged with dealership for diagnostics if needed.
Good luck
Don't want to sound arrogant my friend but did you use battery support?
Truthfully I've never used battery support on anything other than BMW & Citroen/Peugeot so not judging -maybe steering lock issue?
We don't know history of car
this game can be big risk little reward
westwoody
3rd August, 2023, 02:51 PM
truecode sorted one out for me when SP crashed with a fatal error halfway through key programming, no dash lights, steering unlocked, cant remember if it was beeping. just started procedure from scratch with truecode
p1et
4th August, 2023, 04:40 PM
Guys. At first I would like to thank for your attention in the thread.
I just got to know very very important information. This car had ECU replaced by my local electrician so that is 99% problem here.
The car went to dealer today morning and they told me they have no comms with ECU. Now I was just looking for a solution to make virgin SID310 (in case dealership have no clue what to do) and I just found that the guy whom I spoke to a day before car went to dealer if he can help, at least make a diagnosis with Consult (because he's got) and he was advertising on facebook in June 2022, that he's one of the only people in Poland who succeed in cloning SID310, I think wow, sounds good, just in case he might really help me if I will be in the ass still (he's on vaccation now) but then I click on the link and... Something looks very familliar... This is the same car I worked with, it had ECU replaced so like I said, it's 99% it caused the problem.
I spoke with Nissan technician, he will try to program ECU on Monday... But he told me this will not be new so how they gonna do it, idk.
The technician also told me this morning, that 'something must been done here before, thats the only reason it got brick'
And voila, it was something done.
Fingers crossed, because now Im not sure if it's good information for me, would be better for dealership if parts were 100% factory I guess..
Now how to be confident going to job like key programming to these models then? If something was replaced and in Poland you can expect everything. Of course I am not 100% sure yet that was the actual problem which cause the brick but just make your own conclusion...
Will keep this thread updated.
lion0304
4th August, 2023, 11:48 PM
In my case, when AKL, i ask history about the car before it reach to me.
Never do only the thing customer ask for. That avoid me many time lost and headache.
turismou
5th August, 2023, 09:03 AM
Guys. At first I would like to thank for your attention in the thread.
I just got to know very very important information. This car had ECU replaced by my local electrician so that is 99% problem here.
The car went to dealer today morning and they told me they have no comms with ECU. Now I was just looking for a solution to make virgin SID310 (in case dealership have no clue what to do) and I just found that the guy whom I spoke to a day before car went to dealer if he can help, at least make a diagnosis with Consult (because he's got) and he was advertising on facebook in June 2022, that he's one of the only people in Poland who succeed in cloning SID310, I think wow, sounds good, just in case he might really help me if I will be in the ass still (he's on vaccation now) but then I click on the link and... Something looks very familliar... This is the same car I worked with, it had ECU replaced so like I said, it's 99% it caused the problem.
I spoke with Nissan technician, he will try to program ECU on Monday... But he told me this will not be new so how they gonna do it, idk.
The technician also told me this morning, that 'something must been done here before, thats the only reason it got brick'
And voila, it was something done.
Fingers crossed, because now Im not sure if it's good information for me, would be better for dealership if parts were 100% factory I guess..
Now how to be confident going to job like key programming to these models then? If something was replaced and in Poland you can expect everything. Of course I am not 100% sure yet that was the actual problem which cause the brick but just make your own conclusion...
Will keep this thread updated.
I'm happy you figured it out. Few people know how it feels in stomach when a car gets bricked. Good luck next time.
p1et
5th August, 2023, 12:25 PM
Just got phone call from dealership, new ECM +- 350 usd but they don't guarantee it's enough because not sure what was done before. And the guy who apparently cloned this ECU before, now is kinda lost in his words because suddenly doesn't remember what he's done (only 1 year ago was advertising he is one of the first in country who suceed cloning SID310 and spent 10+ hours figuring how to do it) and now say he made it virgin no clone... Real mess, so I can expect everything done to just make car work but I hope rest of modules are factory OEM untouched. I don't know, maybe he doesn't wanna tell and it's eays to fix by himself, hope so if I won't find solution until he comes back from holiday. He's a guy whom I sent customers some with electricity problems but he doesn't know about it heh.
I don't know what to do, im thinking of buying same part number ECM and let someone virgin with 100% working solution and let dealership try to program it, although technician say must be new, even if I asked when I give them a virginized one.
Total headache.
godfathertwo
5th August, 2023, 04:08 PM
I hope you get it sorted and avoid these Nissan in future these jobs not worth the money and headaches
Involved with them and as Rapid said before the Abrites Vin reader might have helped you as scans every single module in car before key programming or Refuse job from beginning let has know the outcome when resolved.
lush29
5th August, 2023, 04:12 PM
Or just inform client of the Risk and 90% of them will walk away [emoji1787] , on akl most of them don't care anyways
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turismou
5th August, 2023, 08:52 PM
Just did a Juke 2016 today. I've done it by cloning and inserting the tp into regular nissan transponder key with red slot. Surprisingly central locks work on all doors when you lock on drivers door and car starts by pressing the button with the key. I'm beginning to hate these new nissans :giveup:
p1et
5th August, 2023, 10:44 PM
Ah, and I forgot to mention that new ECU is not available as a new part in dealership and maybe, I repeat MAYBE it will be up to 6 weeks... Thats why Im searching for solution with virgin ECU and if they cant program it, I take car elsewhere, at lleast have some people willing to help. Cheers. Have a Nice and peaceful weekend
Manta1600
5th August, 2023, 11:05 PM
Maybe will be easy to find Ecu kit
for this car must be bcm ecu elv and key
jodge
6th August, 2023, 10:58 AM
Maybe will be easy to find Ecu kit
for this car must be bcm ecu elv and key
there will be issues with the ABS, Dash and SRS for sure and maybe with the additional small stuff like navi etc
Manta1600
6th August, 2023, 12:34 PM
there will be issues with the ABS, Dash and SRS for sure and maybe with the additional small stuff like navi etc
the SRS must easy to be solved also the dash if there is problem
Not sure about the ABS but for the local Nissan dealer must be easy to sort it
If the customer can accept different VIN on the parts maybe this is the better way
p1et
7th August, 2023, 04:41 PM
Anyone know if it's possible to virgin ECU SID310 Continental Diesel: 1.5dCi: 23710HY00D
The professional guy who only repair ECUs and have one for sell, is telling me there is problem with this one...
This is like a nightmare. When I see a light in a tunnel to make progress in this situation, then I got next slap in my face.
I want to do the god damn job via dealership but can't because it's impossible to buy ECU. So I found second hand ECU which can'tbe virginized(?)
And of course there is no single complete starter kit for this car.
Wtf is this sh1t, I really really hope all of you nice people will not step on such bullsh1it as I did.
Manta1600
7th August, 2023, 04:47 PM
Anyone know if it's possible to virgin ECU SID310 Continental Diesel: 1.5dCi: 23710HY00D
The profesionnal guy who only repair ECUs and have one for sell, is telling me there is problem with this one...
Never used this site but under renault they have option for this model virgin
http://immocu.com/
Maybe can do it for Nissan
also see that some guys in this forum can do it
davorOS
7th August, 2023, 08:12 PM
I use rocket emulator on this ECU SID310 on QASKAI and it work without problems
You need to read D flash and post, I did all with AVDI and never had problems
also this ecu is nothing special as I clone few without problems,
fred77
7th August, 2023, 09:03 PM
Anyone know if it's possible to virgin ECU SID310 Continental Diesel: 1.5dCi: 23710HY00D
The professional guy who only repair ECUs and have one for sell, is telling me there is problem with this one...
This is like a nightmare. When I see a light in a tunnel to make progress in this situation, then I got next slap in my face.
I want to do the god damn job via dealership but can't because it's impossible to buy ECU. So I found second hand ECU which can'tbe virginized(?)
And of course there is no single complete starter kit for this car.
Wtf is this sh1t, I really really hope all of you nice people will not step on such bullsh1it as I did.
It's not your fault mate
Customer must realise repaired ECU caused issue. You may even be within rights to walk away,
but your trying best to fix
Customer will have to be patient, you'll get fixed
p1et
7th August, 2023, 10:03 PM
I use rocket emulator on this ECU SID310 on QASKAI and it work without problems
You need to read D flash and post, I did all with AVDI and never had problems
also this ecu is nothing special as I clone few without problems,
Thanks. But can you explain me 1 thing. How to add smart key when there is need if there is immo off done? Because I don't understand.
davorOS
7th August, 2023, 10:26 PM
i had same situation as You but on Qaskai so my dealer programme new BCM but could not code it to Engine ecu only accept key
so I made immo off with emulator and car start
also I have qaskai with damged ecu after flashing so I didn't have original D flash and it also start with emulator.
in but case I could programme key without problem before and after ecu immo off
HTH
fuzz1
8th August, 2023, 02:16 AM
i had same situation as You but on Qaskai so my dealer programme new BCM but could not code it to Engine ecu only accept key
so I made immo off with emulator and car start
also I have qaskai with damged ecu after flashing so I didn't have original D flash and it also start with emulator.
in but case I could programme key without problem before and after ecu immo off
HTH
Hi
I'm not saying that he can't do the job but why not try to oversee the installation of the emulator maybe via remote intervention.
We have all been through that it just helps in these cases to have someone by your side.
Best of luck hope it works
p1et
16th August, 2023, 06:38 PM
Hi,
Just got phone call from dealership, the car is alive :) I ordered new ECU exact 1 week ago. Every dealership said part no available and waiting time for order 6-8 weeks but they order via some emergency route which they said MIGHT be faster but still no guarantee when so I was totally surprised by phone call today that the ECU arrived and car started straight up after programming to car.
godfathertwo
17th August, 2023, 12:49 AM
Glad you got it sorted at the end these Vehicle are too risky till a fix is Found you need a good imsurance or £1500 pounds to pay at the dealer if you brick one not worth the price of the key programming £150 or £200 pounds for me i would not ever touch one till a proper fix is Found .
p1et
17th August, 2023, 11:14 AM
Juke generally are safe to do, at least those with 4 digit PIN code. I was aware the 12 digit pin code, calculated from glovebox (2011-2013) might be problematic so I did't want to touch them. When you can read BCM serial number with 4 digit PIN code, its apparently safe, unless someone changed ECU. Im still not 100% sure but 99% I am that the cloned ECU was the problem. Some member who offered me solution to virgin Nissan SID310 (most people say its not possible) told me cloning this ECU is not 1:1 so somebody made clone but soke data wasn't 100% content of original ECU, some checksum error I think and ECU just lost comms during key registration process. So Im 99% sure that if I'd plug any tools, I would program key without issue now but I won't do it :) Just i case... Now I want to have some good sleep. I wanted to order spare fob for customer via dealership, to give back car to cusromer with 2 fobs but I mentioned about it to dealer but they didnt put in on paper so it wasnt on the list to do, now after they just called the car is Runner, we are happy and customer agreed for me to do emergency start key, I will just clone it...
Spiritech
17th August, 2023, 12:20 PM
At least you got a good result in the end mate. Thanks for the update on what happened.
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