CUMMINS ECM REPAIR TIPS

[mondao]

Thank you,
this I have calibration and after recalibration occurs FC 329
Before that there was T90099.03 and FC was not there.
So I do not know what to do.
You can look for changes in the calibration in this file, I find, but I see no changes maybe have a real problem in the engine?
really do not understand, what happens

[ramianek]

The kind of do not understand what happened. Discovered an error code the 2215th dismantle the nozzle, have tested to fit on to I regauging ECM and discovered the 329th FC In desperation, I gave a sort of new jets - FC 329 appeared and did not do stale.Nic The next day I drove the car and everything OK = just do not understand what happened and what it was. So far Ride car without problems. We will see after dlesi time. So far all thanks for your help and advice. Sorry translated in Google Translate

[donniemnemonic]

Hi m8s
Can someone please help with CPL and injector part numbers for celect N14 engine. The engine number is 11677244.
Regards
Donniemnemonic

[mondao]

Hi m8s
Can someone please help with CPL and injector part numbers for celect N14 engine. The engine number is 11677244.
Regards
Donniemnemonic
try this file
Download:

[Poptest]

Hi m8s
Can someone please help with CPL and injector part numbers for celect N14 engine. The engine number is 11677244.
Regards
Donniemnemonic

N14 Celect

CPL = 1574

Injector = 3081315

[alsop]

Calibrations:
Some info. The company I work for got some new vehicles with the new CM2250 ECM. They also purchased 2 complete engine packs. One of the vehicles had a problem with throwing a flash code on start-up that the electrical charging system was not in range during the self test of the system J1939. This actually prevented the thing from going in service and making money. Cummins engineers got involved and had us hard wire electronic relays with no luck.
After comparing calibrations with the spare engine packs and other OEM cals. I noticed they were not the same. The problem was corrected after changing the engine serial# calibration to the one the Vehicle manufacturer had changed to comply with their wiring and programming with vehicle systems. You cannot trust the ECM or engine serial# for calibrations. The manufacturer is the key to calibrations in today's computer age. When in doubt contact the builder of the vehicle before the engine manufacturer. Also make sure you make a work order so you have a copy of custom features and settings you can try first. This is a MUST to get in a habit of doing.
JcTech explains it in post 31 of this thread.
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f166/qsx15-cm570-service-manual-wiring-digram-159775/

[p455w0rd]

hi everyone can someone help me with these calibrations.
ISC 8159 CPL 330 - 249 or 280
or
ISL 850 all of them are for cummins.

Regards
Thanks in advance.:lollypop:

[jctech]

hi everyone can someone help me with these calibrations.
ISC 8159 CPL 330 - 249 or 280
or
ISL 850 all of them are for cummins.

Regards
Thanks in advance.:lollypop:

Here you go

[omarbl]

Hello friends, I need to know what pins need for rom boot an isc ecm part number 3944105. thanks

[alsop]

Hello friends, I need to know what pins need for rom boot an isc ecm part number 3944105. thanksThis might work for you. It does include the ISC CM850 as well as other ECM's. Pin 1,2,11,25 get grounded for 5 seconds on boot-up.
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachments/f164/41648d1291578487-cummins-ecm-repair-tips-rom_boot_img.jpg

[mallelo]

when i try to conect the computer it throw me this error 434
in a freightliner 99 whit motor cummins dr5067r8

[mallelo]

:giveup::giveup:

[mondao]

when i try to conect the computer it throw me this error 434
in a freightliner 99 whit motor cummins dr5067r8
You can find the error number in this file

[mallelo]

thanks,now conected

[mallelo]

finally conected to ecm but i have a
fault code "2559"
count "40" any help whit this code

[alsop]

finally conected to ecm but i have a
fault code "2559"
count "40" any help whit this codeTry clicking on the code. It should give you what the fault in the ECM is.

[mallelo]

Try clicking on the code. It should give you what the fault in the ECM is.

i did but only say "unknow" is the only fault active code :dong:

[alsop]

i did but only say "unknow" is the only fault active code :dong:Attached is a Cummins service bulletin on the code 2559. If you need the latest incal this is the April link.
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f166/april-incal-2012-a-269210/?highlight=incal

[omarbl]

This might work for you. It does include the ISC CM850 as well as other ECM's. Pin 1,2,11,25 get grounded for 5 seconds on boot-up.
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachments/f164/41648d1291578487-cummins-ecm-repair-tips-rom_boot_img.jpg

thanks but I need a rom bot diagram to isc/isl ecm this only have two connectors like an isb.

[hpcummins]

Can anyone help with Celect ecms that will not communicate after a failed flash? Is it possible to rom boot a Celect? The factory bench cable has no rom boot switch. I have two of them that got to 33% and then lost communication using Calterm. Any ideas? Thanks

[ili2k2]

Hi. can anyone seems what to be the problem. After trying to recalibrate this isbe4 (4 or 6 cylinder), this is stop at 78%, but after 70% work wery slow and had alot eror (see pictures).

for better view see: http://s1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii540/ili2k2/?action=view?t=ecm.png (http://s1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii540/ili2k2/?action=view&current=ecm.png)http://s1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii540/ili2k2/?action=view&current=ecm.pnghttp://s1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii540/ili2k2/?action=view&current=ecm.png

[donniemnemonic]

Can anyone help with Celect ecms that will not communicate after a failed flash? Is it possible to rom boot a Celect? The factory bench cable has no rom boot switch. I have two of them that got to 33% and then lost communication using Calterm. Any ideas? Thanks



Hi m8
Try communicating with the ECMs with the ignition switch off. Connect to the Ecm turn the ignition On then Off and then try to communicate with it using Insite/Calterm. Could already be in Rom boot mode.If it fails on the OEM plug try using the Sensor Harness Plug.

Regards
Donniemnemonic

[sync79]

Hi frends
how to translate Rom boot mode (cummins ISDe) ESN 86000845 CM2150?

[khadang]

hi dk friend!
i'm looking calibration file for this engine:
komatsu 4d95 ( i think is cummins b3.3 ):
engine : esn : 00505547, 97hp at 2200rpm, throttle j1939
ecu : cm2150 code: 4988820
please see att image for other infomation.
anybody have it please share me. thank much advance.

[alsop]

hi dk friend!
i'm looking calibration file for this engine:
komatsu 4d95 ( i think is cummins b3.3 ):
engine : esn : 00505547, 97hp at 2200rpm, throttle j1939
ecu : cm2150 code: 4988820
please see att image for other infomation.
anybody have it please share me. thank much advance.

Not available means the program Calterm will not support this ECM. You are basically wasting your time due to this file name has to be highlighted and available for the program to begin working plus the correct ecfg file is needed.

[khadang]

Not available means the program Calterm will not support this ECM. You are basically wasting your time due to this file name has to be highlighted and available for the program to begin working plus the correct ecfg file is needed.

thank you but it not i mean.i'm not use calterm.
i'm att this image to show info.
i'm looking file calibration for insite. i have this engine but ecu is die.
and i have other ecu cm2150(4988820) but not application for this engine.
i'm find calibration file for reprogram this ecu.( i'm not see it in incal 2009->2012)
thank you, can help me more info you know this engine file.

[mory lanes]

solution to the code in ecm Celect 111 plus?
anyone have any idea what to do?, I have 4 ecm and have fault code
Help?

said microcontroller is replacing it?

anyone know how to program microcontrollers?

try and recalibrate
reprogram the memories
not clear the fault code 111

any solution?

thank you

[uzara]

solution to the code in ecm Celect 111 plus?
anyone have any idea what to do?, I have 4 ecm and have fault code
Help?

said microcontroller is replacing it?

anyone know how to program microcontrollers?

try and recalibrate
reprogram the memories
not clear the fault code 111

any solution?



thank you

Hi
You are sure that is only the microcontroller def ?
the ecm board have many more componens then only the cpu !!!
have you check the other componens from the ecm??
some firmware make a self check procedur befor run !!!
regards

[mory lanes]

Hi
You are sure that is only the microcontroller def ?
the ecm board have many more componens then only the cpu !!!
have you check the other componens from the ecm??
some firmware make a self check procedur befor run !!!
regards

yes friend
*
I tested all components of the ecm.
* and nothing has worked.

that is why I think it's the microcontroller.

ustes knows how to disappear the code 111 in the ecm?

has some experience to share?

I've changed all the components, just missing the microcontroller is why I think it is there the problem of code 111

I want to know if someone reprogram microcontrollers, you have done this

thanks for your answer

:wavey:

[uzara]

yes friend
*
I tested all components of the ecm.
* and nothing has worked.

that is why I think it's the microcontroller.

ustes knows how to disappear the code 111 in the ecm?

has some experience to share?

I've changed all the components, just missing the microcontroller is why I think it is there the problem of code 111

I want to know if someone reprogram microcontrollers, you have done this

thanks for your answer

:wavey:

Hi
Clear Fault Log and reconnect to verify that errors
completed or not
It can also show new error codes
or more then one fault
If error codes are displayed is not the cpu dead in the ECM-board
make a good picture from your ecm board
both site please for me !
have you check the differend supply voltages on the ecm board ?

vibration damage on ecm-board or components?
regards

[uzara]

yes friend
*
I tested all components of the ecm.
* and nothing has worked.

that is why I think it's the microcontroller.

ustes knows how to disappear the code 111 in the ecm?

has some experience to share?

I've changed all the components, just missing the microcontroller is why I think it is there the problem of code 111

I want to know if someone reprogram microcontrollers, you have done this

thanks for your answer

:wavey:

Hi
you say : I tested all components of the ecm.
* and nothing has worked.
What tools or measuring equipment, you've used to test ??
regards

[donniemnemonic]

[QUOTE=mory lanes;1626562]solution to the code in ecm Celect 111 plus?
anyone have any idea what to do?, I have 4 ecm and have fault code
Help?

said microcontroller is replacing it?

anyone know how to program microcontrollers?

try and recalibrate
reprogram the memories
not clear the fault code 111

any solution?



Hi M8

Rom boot your ECM and then recalibrate using insite or calterm and that should solve your problem.
You can Rom boot it either by using the Rom boot cable as described in this thread or using Calterm.

Regards
Donniemnemonic.

[ili2k2]

Hi. can anyone seems what to be the problem. After trying to recalibrate this isbe4 (4 or 6 cylinder), this is stop at 78%, but after 70% work wery slow and had alot eror (see pictures).

for better view see: http://s1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii540/ili2k2/?action=view?t=ecm.png (http://s1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii540/ili2k2/?action=view&current=ecm.png)http://s1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii540/ili2k2/?action=view&current=ecm.pnghttp://s1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii540/ili2k2/?action=view&current=ecm.png


after disconecting all CanBus devices, calibration works well.
problem solved.

[khadang]

hi all.
i'm have ecu cummiins cm570 p/n 3408501 but now it is die.(i have backup file calibration)
i have other ecm cm570 with different ecm number.
can i download backup file to ecm cm570 different ecm number with calterm?
please help.

[jctech]

hi all.
i'm have ecu cummiins cm570 p/n 3408501 but now it is die.(i have backup file calibration)
i have other ecm cm570 with different ecm number.
can i download backup file to ecm cm570 different ecm number with calterm?
please help.

Hi before you try to calibrate the ECM with Calterm, calibrate the ECM with Insite to the calibration number that your Calterm calibration is based on.
Most ISM CM570 calibrations are the same for the different ECM's

[jackalfa]

Hi m8
Try communicating with the ECMs with the ignition switch off. Connect to the Ecm turn the ignition On then Off and then try to communicate with it using Insite/Calterm. Could already be in Rom boot mode.If it fails on the OEM plug try using the Sensor Harness Plug.

Regards
Donniemnemonic

Please, can you tell me which connectors numbers are the sensor harness plug?
Sensor Connector in Celect Data J1708 10(+) and 20(-)???

or I need to use others pins numbers?

thanks...

[donniemnemonic]

Please, can you tell me which connectors numbers are the sensor harness plug?
Sensor Connector in Celect Data J1708 10(+) and 20(-)???

or I need to use others pins numbers?

thanks...


Hi m8
For celect Ecms use pins 10 (+) and 20 (-) and for celect plus use pins 04 (+) and 22 (-). I made a plug with a switch to select between the two ecm types maybe that could also work for you if you work with both types of ecms.

Regards
Donniemnemonic

[aarias]

Could anyone help me with celect and celect plus ecm pinout diagrams?? ty in advance!!

[jackalfa]

Hi m8
For celect Ecms use pins 10 (+) and 20 (-) and for celect plus use pins 04 (+) and 22 (-). I made a plug with a switch to select between the two ecm types maybe that could also work for you if you work with both types of ecms.

Regards
Donniemnemonic

Thanks for your response. I have this Celect ECM whith this error:

Error Number: 5080

INSITE has detected some ECM(s) are ROM-booted and must be recalibrated.

INSITE has detected the following ECM(s) are ROM-booted:
ECM-B[7]

Please recalibrate the ROM-booted ECM(s). If the problem persists, please record the error number and contact the local distributor.

The issue here is that the ECM do not have data plate and Insite reads the ECM as part number 3617033, which is not in celect ECMs part numbers. (I'm using a bench harness)

Any ideas on how to recalibrate it?

[mory lanes]

anyone knows how to boot (which pins connect) Celect ecm normal? ecesito boye



I need to boot a standard ecm someone know how?


thanks for helpme very good day

[jackalfa]

Please member anybody can share his knowledge in how to troubleshoot and repair code 111 in a ECM?

[donniemnemonic]

Thanks for your response. I have this Celect ECM whith this error:

Error Number: 5080

INSITE has detected some ECM(s) are ROM-booted and must be recalibrated.

INSITE has detected the following ECM(s) are ROM-booted:
ECM-B[7]

Please recalibrate the ROM-booted ECM(s). If the problem persists, please record the error number and contact the local distributor.

The issue here is that the ECM do not have data plate and Insite reads the ECM as part number 3617033, which is not in celect ECMs part numbers. (I'm using a bench harness)

Any ideas on how to recalibrate it?

Hi m8
just calibrate the ECM like you would normally do using insite and after you complete the procedure the ECM will be servicable once again. Just make sure you use the correct part number to avoid damaging the unit.

Sorry m8 just read the last part of your Post and didn't realise your predicament let me come back to you on this one.

Regards
Donniemnemonic

[donniemnemonic]

anyone knows how to boot (which pins connect) Celect ecm normal? ecesito boye



I need to boot a standard ecm someone know how?


thanks for helpme very good day

Hi m8
Whilst connected to the ecm using insite start a calibration download to the ECM then when the program is round 60% or so disconnect the datalink connections to the ECM and this should place it in a rom boot state.

Regards
Donniemnemonic

[donniemnemonic]

Please member anybody can share his knowledge in how to troubleshoot and repair code 111 in a ECM?


Hi m8

Read through page 36 of this thread and you should find a solution there.

Regards Donniemnemonic

[mory lanes]

Hi m8
Whilst connected to the ecm using insite start a calibration download to the ECM then when the program is round 60% or so disconnect the datalink connections to the ECM and this should place it in a rom boot state.

Regards
Donniemnemonic
but my regular Celect ecm is blocked.

as a boot rom Celect ecm normal?

* anyone any diagram?


thanks for aport " donniemnemonic"
thanks very day

[donniemnemonic]

but my regular Celect ecm is blocked.

as a boot rom Celect ecm normal?

* anyone any diagram?


thanks for aport " donniemnemonic"
thanks very day

Hi m8.
Like I said in 1 of the above posts just recalibrate your ECM and it should revert back to its normal state. I am assuming that you mean that it is rom-booted when you say it is BLOCKED.

Regards
Donniemnemonic

[mory lanes]

yes is BLOCKED

any advice?

not know as boot the ecm Celect

Celect diagram plus I have it but the one I have not normally Celect

you shall not?

[jackalfa]

[QUOTE=mory lanes;1626562]solution to the code in ecm Celect 111 plus?
anyone have any idea what to do?, I have 4 ecm and have fault code
Help?

said microcontroller is replacing it?

anyone know how to program microcontrollers?

try and recalibrate
reprogram the memories
not clear the fault code 111

any solution?



Hi M8

Rom boot your ECM and then recalibrate using insite or calterm and that should solve your problem.
You can Rom boot it either by using the Rom boot cable as described in this thread or using Calterm.


Regards
Donniemnemonic.

Thanks Donniemnemonic, for you responce. I have tried several times to calibratre ECMs in rom boot state with this foult code but so far any has not taking the calibration. I'm using a rom boot cable, to put the ECM in rom boot state, then Insite detect it as such, then says something that the ECM needs to be calibrated. Then, I start the calibration process but the process suddenly stops without completing.
I hope that someone can share it's knowledge (and time) in a tutorial or photos with a description on how to troubleshoot, identify components and fix this ECMs. Maybe I'm asking for too much... I just hope some of gurus here in DK can help us.

thanks, regards...

[donniemnemonic]

[quote=donniemnemonic;1629005]

Thanks Donniemnemonic, for you responce. I have tried several times to calibratre ECMs in rom boot state with this foult code but so far any has not taking the calibration. I'm using a rom boot cable, to put the ECM in rom boot state, then Insite detect it as such, then says something that the ECM needs to be calibrated. Then, I start the calibration process but the process suddenly stops without completing.
I hope that someone can share it's knowledge (and time) in a tutorial or photos with a description on how to troubleshoot, identify components and fix this ECMs. Maybe I'm asking for too much... I just hope some of gurus here in DK can help us.

thanks, regards...

Hi m8
What error codes are you getting when the process stops because sometimes it may take a bit of time and will seem like nothing is happening.Have managed to repair quite a few of these this way after been helped by Jctech.

Regards
Donniemnemonic

[omarbl]

hello again, anyone can help me?? I need to put in room bot mode an ecm ISC part number 3944105, this ecm only have two connectors and is small like a isb. Thanks.

[jackalfa]

[quote=jackalfa;1645387]

Hi m8
What error codes are you getting when the process stops because sometimes it may take a bit of time and will seem like nothing is happening.Have managed to repair quite a few of these this way after been helped by Jctech.

Regards
Donniemnemonic

Hi,
Later today I'm going to upload pics of the failed process, thanks...

[jctech]

If the ECM has active fault code 111, the ECM is dead. Maybe you can recalibrate and re write the memory, but no guarantee. Replace the microprocessor, or buy a ReCon ECM


If the ECM has inactive fault code 111, only a few counts, then the ECM is OK. If the ECM has a lot of inactive fault code 111, try to recalibrate and rewrite the memory, no guarantee.

Fault code 111 is a fault with the microprocessor and memory locations.
If the recalibration fails half way, it may be that Insite cannot write to some of the memory locations in the ECM. That is why the ECM had fault code 111 in the first place

[jackalfa]

[quote=jackalfa;1645387]

Hi m8
What error codes are you getting when the process stops because sometimes it may take a bit of time and will seem like nothing is happening.Have managed to repair quite a few of these this way after been helped by Jctech.

Regards
Donniemnemonic

Sorry for the delay, here are the screen shots with an ECM with fault code 111, and the error when trying to recalibrate it.

[jackalfa]

Thanks jctech, then I need to change the microprocessor and the memories at the same time?
How to troubleshoot what I need to change?

regards...

[ddmech]

I am trying to build a bench cable for a cummins 3963994 ecm.This is on a dodge isb 2003 common rail.I cannot even find out what model ecm it is.I need to know if there is a j1939 line on this ecm and if so,anyone has a wiring diagram for it.It has 50 pin and a 60 pin connector.Any input would be great!Thanks!

[Thecell]

I am trying to build a bench cable for a cummins 3963994 ecm.This is on a dodge isb 2003 common rail.I cannot even find out what model ecm it is.I need to know if there is a j1939 line on this ecm and if so,anyone has a wiring diagram for it.It has 50 pin and a 60 pin connector.Any input would be great!Thanks!

T,

Thanks for your help bud.

Do you have the serial number of the engine. We worked on a dodge one time and it was not to any spec cummins had...if you need either of those plugs let me know and you got them...

Bob

[ddmech]

No I dont have a serial.We have checked the usual spots on the engine and no luck.Tag gone.I have everything to build the plug but need to know how to connect.I found the pinout in chrysler manual but it doesnt match any cummins schem.

21,49,50 - ground
20,30,40 + pos
32 ign

28 pci bus
16 sci transmit
19 sci recieve

Doesnt show a 1939 or 1708.Any ideas buddy?

[Thecell]

No I dont have a serial.We have checked the usual spots on the engine and no luck.Tag gone.I have everything to build the plug but need to know how to connect.I found the pinout in chrysler manual but it doesnt match any cummins schem.

21,49,50 - ground
20,30,40 + pos
32 ign

28 pci bus
16 sci transmit
19 sci recieve

Doesnt show a 1939 or 1708.Any ideas buddy?

I have a wiring diagram of the cummins side and the dodge side of it back at the office. I should be back friday and can pm them to you. there is a 1939 on the plug but it is in a different location than normal for cummins. We had to build a plug system to work with it and it took 3 times even with diagrams before we were able to communicate with the ecm.

any other numbers on the ecm? as sometimes they lead to the sn of the engine.

[ddmech]

Yes there is a tag on the ecm.I will check it out in the mornig and get back with you.Thanks a lot!

[Thecell]

I have a wiring diagram of the cummins side and the dodge side of it back at the office. I should be back friday and can pm them to you. there is a 1939 on the plug but it is in a different location than normal for cummins. We had to build a plug system to work with it and it took 3 times even with diagrams before we were able to communicate with the ecm.

any other numbers on the ecm? as sometimes they lead to the sn of the engine.
From the engine we did ...off the cummins site:

J1939 Engine Plug 08 Engine Datalink +
Engine Plug 06 Engine Datalink -

OEM power plug:
01, 02 12 Volt -
03,04 12 volt +
ignition 39 OEM PLUG

anything else, let me know.

[moza]

I'm looking for calibration isx. as no vgt dpf and how to remove ...
thank you my friends .. there are lots of good information.

[Thecell]

If it stars taking the same calibration that is installed, when the message preparing ecm for calibration shows up and finishes, pull the 4 wire power plug. Make sure every epa cert is moved into the list. Don't wait the thirty seconds. Plug it back in and restart calibration right away using a fleet count. In 2007, I watched a Cummins tech do the same thing but the first ecm smoked <literally> when starting the engine before he caught his mistake.

ALSOP.. We have a cm870 with the same issue as JTECH. Both in insite and calterm. The ECM will communicate with them both but in boot mode. Tried all of the above plus even bought the cummins bench cable (wow$$$). The ECM was perfect until We started playing with it to find the limits, so it should be ok...IDEAS?

Thanks Guys.

[ddmech]

Can you calibrate it in boot friend?

[Thecell]

Can you calibrate it in boot friend?

No, Bud... it will let it prepare it, and all is good until it trys to transfer the calibration. Then it shows as a failed to transfer calibration error. Really baffling. :dong:

[Thecell]

I have a CM850 ECM 3965159 that somebody tried to calibrate with a calibration for ECM 4921667.
the ECM communicates OK with Insite and Calterm, it has no calibration in it at present, and will not take a clibration with Insite or Calterm, I have tried Rom Boot cables, 5EED and 1D0A with Calterm,
anybody got any other ideas?

JCTECH,

Did you ever get that resolved, as we have the same thing (Caused by me on the bench)? :stupido2: It is an CM870.

[alsop]

JCTECH,

Did you ever get that resolved, as we have the same thing (Caused by me on the bench)? :stupido2: It is an CM870.
I have had problems with Insite 7.5. It is extremely unstable for calibrations and work orders. Move every EPA certification into the right side box.
Make sure the CPL is a match with the original calibration. Last use a 12 volt battery in place of a power supply for the amperage . I would still go back to 7.4 to calibrate. One calibration installed 75% with 7.5 and the laptop simply shut down and rebooted. Version 7.4 without any updates took the re-calibration with no problems. This was on a CM871 with an ISM, CARB. certification. Also stay away from USB and use RS232 com1, J1708 Not J1939 for interface communications. My best instinct is the J1708 is your problem. This ECM will read J1939 but will not calibrate unless 1708 is used.
Keep us up to date how things work out.
Thanks.

[Thecell]

I have had problems with Insite 7.5. It is extremely unstable for calibrations and work orders. Move every EPA certification into the right side box.
Make sure the CPL is a match with the original calibration. Last use a 12 volt battery in place of a power supply for the amperage . I would still go back to 7.4 to calibrate. One calibration installed 75% with 7.5 and the laptop simply shut down and rebooted. Version 7.4 without any updates took the re-calibration with no problems. This was on a CM871 with an ISM, CARB. certification. Also stay away from USB and use RS232 com1, J1708 Not J1939 for interface communications.
Keep us up to date how things work out.
Thanks.

ALSOP,

Thanks for the quick response. We have a 30 amp power supply on the bench...we can see that it takes 2.1 amps at 14 volts. We also tried it at 15 volts just to give it the additional Umph it may need (nice technical term).
We are using insite 7.4 for exactly the same reasons you describe above. We have tried it with NEXIQ and INLINE 6 (which is a POS, and I don't mean point of sale).... :stupido2::stupido2:

So our next trick is still yet to be determined, one hell of a learning experience but would like to be able to come to some resolution on how to calibrate.
So once again, thanks for the great input, and yes, we will keep everyone updated as we continue to try.
BP

[alsop]

In the Intelect programs PDF guides on programming the older CM850 ECM's, about page 98 is a special instruction. The ECM must be programmed with key off. With Cummins it might apply to the CM870 version you are working with? I hope its that simple.
I also purchased the ROM Boot cable. Your not kidding $$$ WoW! The CM2250 was also a shock to the back pocket. The old saying if you want to play you have to pay really applies when it comes to Cummins.

[Thecell]

In the Intelect programs PDF guides on programming the older CM850 ECM's, about page 98 is a special instruction. The ECM must be programmed with key off. With Cummins it might apply to the CM870 version you are working with? I hope its that simple.
I also purchased the ROM Boot cable. Your not kidding $$$ WoW! The CM2250 was also a shock to the back pocket. The old saying if you want to play you have to pay really applies when it comes to Cummins.

On our way to the bench to test...

WIll let you know. Thanks

[Thecell]

Tried the switch off test, hell, I even pulled the plug during every phase of the startup...zippo.
hmmm..

[Thecell]

I even retried it with the INLINE 6 Adapter (had to download new software driver from Cummins).

Still the same communications between the ECM and both Calterm and Insite 7.4 ....can read the boot memory "points", and Calterm allows a couple of them to be changed, but no calibration allowed?

[moza]

test with incall...

[Thecell]

test with incall...

Will try immediately, Thanks....will keep you posted.

[Thecell]

test with incall...

INCAL comes up with ISX cm870 and ISM CM870. Tried both and multiple calibrations including the original version that was in the ECM. Same results...gets to transfering the calibration, flashes the comunication light 3 yimes on the Inline 6 or Nexiq and hangs for 3min on the Nexiq and 20 seconds on the INLINE 6, then displays unable to transfer or calibration transfer failed. :stupido2: Good thing I don't have any more hair to pull out!

[Thecell]

Maybe this will shed some light on what I see when I startup and then go to calibration in Calterm:

It says as one of the messages: unable to attach structure. Could that be because I need a file for BOOTROM and not the config file?

[Thecell]

In INSITE We boot up with what looks to be the correct message:

Error Number: 5080

INSITE has detected some ECM(s) are ROM-booted and must be recalibrated.

INSITE has detected the following ECM(s) are ROM-booted:
CM870[0]

Please recalibrate the ROM-booted ECM(s). If the problem persists, please record the error number and contact the local distributor.

[Thecell]

In INSITE We boot up with what looks to be the correct message:

Error Number: 5080

INSITE has detected some ECM(s) are ROM-booted and must be recalibrated.

INSITE has detected the following ECM(s) are ROM-booted:
CM870[0]

Please recalibrate the ROM-booted ECM(s). If the problem persists, please record the error number and contact the local distributor.

[Thecell]

S&W 40 maybe?

[4hillbilly]

INCAL comes up with ISX cm870 and ISM CM870. Tried both and multiple calibrations including the original version that was in the ECM. Same results...gets to transfering the calibration, flashes the comunication light 3 yimes on the Inline 6 or Nexiq and hangs for 3min on the Nexiq and 20 seconds on the INLINE 6, then displays unable to transfer or calibration transfer failed. :stupido2: Good thing I don't have any more hair to pull out!


had the same prolem ..you have to uninsall insite and reload 7.5 and do no update at all..... there same to be a patch or some thing in the update stopping the cal transfer.... hope this help

just change cal on a isx 500 to 620 yesterday

[Thecell]

had the same prolem ..you have to uninsall insite and reload 7.5 and do no update at all..... there same to be a patch or some thing in the update stopping the cal transfer.... hope this help

just change cal on a isx 500 to 620 yesterday

Thanks for the response.

Did you mean 7.4 or 7.5 for insite?

[alsop]

Bob,
Do you still have the original Calterm file uploaded from the ECM? and what Cal is it in Insite. BAB, ABA and complete name AT12345.XX Ect. Going to work in a few minutes and can get into Quick Serve and do some deep research on what is going on. Be back in about 10 hours and let you know what I can find.

[jctech]

JCTECH,

Did you ever get that resolved, as we have the same thing (Caused by me on the bench)? :stupido2: It is an CM870.

No, I decided it was bricked. I opened it up to look inside

[Thecell]

No, I decided it was bricked. I opened it up to look inside

Thanks Bud,

I am going to give the 7.5 insite a try to see if it works...otherwise, yep S&W 40 sounds like a plan.

[Thecell]

Bob,
Do you still have the original Calterm file uploaded from the ECM? and what Cal is it in Insite. BAB, ABA and complete name AT12345.XX Ect. Going to work in a few minutes and can get into Quick Serve and do some deep research on what is going on. Be back in about 10 hours and let you know what I can find.

The one I have here at home:
Insite ECM870 part number 3682729 ISM-CM870

CALTERM ENF AG20079.is2 I will have to look the rest up tomorrow at the office...Thanks Bud.

[ddmech]

Bob,
Just ran into your disscusion.I had the same issue recently.At one point I figured out I had the wrong metafile.2nd problem,I had to reflash with caltyerm key off option.It took some doing but I finally got it to work.If a flash fails usually if you can connect to calterm and go to unlock,it will change the cal vers.Good luck buddy.

[Thecell]

Bob,
Just ran into your disscusion.I had the same issue recently.At one point I figured out I had the wrong metafile.2nd problem,I had to reflash with caltyerm key off option.It took some doing but I finally got it to work.If a flash fails usually if you can connect to calterm and go to unlock,it will change the cal vers.Good luck buddy.

Thanks Guys, now I have at least three things to try on Saturday.. WIll let you know.

[alsop]

I think ddmech as given you the best solution their is. Make sure it's unlocked like he said an give it your best. I am pretty sure you'll get it loaded with the calterm upload you saved. This one is going to be a learning experience for all of us.
Thanks

[Thecell]

Bob,
Just ran into your disscusion.I had the same issue recently.At one point I figured out I had the wrong metafile.2nd problem,I had to reflash with caltyerm key off option.It took some doing but I finally got it to work.If a flash fails usually if you can connect to calterm and go to unlock,it will change the cal vers.Good luck buddy.

OK, so here is something interesting...we have our power supply hooked up to the ecm...it shows amperage as well as voltage.
When the ecm is turned on, in standby mode (no key on) the amperage is a normal 0.1 amps at 13.8 volts. When the key is turned on the amps goes to a normal 0.4 amps. With the Cummins Benchtop cable, when we turn off the key, the amperage does not go down even after 30 to 40 seconds (or 5 min). If we hook up to a normal CM2250, and perform the same check, the amperage returns to 0.1 after a normal 20 to 30 seconds, like it would with the key off on a truck.

Thoughts guys??? :alberteinstein:

[alsop]

OK, so here is something interesting...we have our power supply hooked up to the ecm...it shows amperage as well as voltage.
When the ecm is turned on, in standby mode (no key on) the amperage is a normal 0.1 amps at 13.8 volts. When the key is turned on the amps goes to a normal 0.4 amps. With the Cummins Benchtop cable, when we turn off the key, the amperage does not go down even after 30 to 40 seconds (or 5 min). If we hook up to a normal CM2250, and perform the same check, the amperage returns to 0.1 after a normal 20 to 30 seconds, like it would with the key off on a truck.

Thoughts guys??? :alberteinstein:
Maybe that's why you are able to program with key off. Sounds as if it's a n/c circuit inside the ECM if battery power is supplyed. The key switch might just excite the boot loader? Once activated it will stay booted similar to the old DOS desk top 886 systems.
I wish all of DK was like this instead of asking for keys and never seen again. I sure want to know what it takes when you get it figured out. If I find out something from a guy I know who has worked on the ECM I'll let you know.

[Thecell]

Maybe that's why you are able to program with key off. Sounds as if it's a n/c circuit inside the ECM if battery power is supplyed. The key switch might just excite the boot loader? Once activated it will stay booted similar to the old DOS desk top 886 systems.
I wish all of DK was like this instead of asking for keys and never seen again. I sure want to know what it takes when you get it figured out. If I find out something from a guy I know who has worked on the ECM I'll let you know.

Ran tests today with all of the above. even updated and reinstalled all programs. Still no joy in mudville....but will continue the effort on Monday and keep you informed.

We are going to do a key off test on a working system for a calibration on Monday as well...to do a comparison of ecms.

[hercamp]

Thanks jctech, then I need to change the microprocessor and the memories at the same time?
How to troubleshoot what I need to change?

regards...



for 111 , just change xicor ,in pcb ....and read and buy new one and read old ,write .

aftter that works oki.

[hercamp]

I'm looking for calibration isx. as no vgt dpf and how to remove ...
thank you my friends .. there are lots of good information.




i can remove the vgt from your cal file...just send me the cal file uploaded from ecm and serial engine .

[hercamp]

No, Bud... it will let it prepare it, and all is good until it trys to transfer the calibration. Then it shows as a failed to transfer calibration error. Really baffling. :dong:




not easy play with calterm???? ... i can help you about the problem that u have ...maybe mistmatch of data link , thats all , after play with cal file , maybe u try on fly modification and usb link always try to push more parameters than ecm can save..thats all. pme

[Thecell]

WARNING NOTE:
The latest update from Cummins for INSITE version 7.5.4.48 will kill your ability to load any calibrations.
It will give you the error code:
Error Number: 27006
INSITE cannot download the calibration at this time because INSITE was unable to locate a valid calibration transfer license.
Even though there are 200 available...

[Thecell]

not easy play with calterm???? ... i can help you about the problem that u have ...maybe mistmatch of data link , thats all , after play with cal file , maybe u try on fly modification and usb link always try to push more parameters than ecm can save..thats all. pme

Hercamp,

Thanks for the information. You are right Calterm can be tricky.

Info on ECM is :
PN 3682729
ESN: 35080420
E/C: AG20002.18

We have been trying the calibration AG20079.12 as the recommended update for the ecm.

We only have USB on MAC, but work before on CM2250 very well. We always upload the calibration first, modify off line, then download back to ECM and it works. I tried this CM870 to put into 5EED mode to play/learn and it stays in BOOT mode. I have tried all of the above posts.

Thanks for all the help, trying to give back info as soon as I test it. It looks like this could be a common problem for more DKers than just me.

[hercamp]

yes very common ... in my phone every week someone calling to ask about a calibration fail problem...not only with calterm ..with insite that happent too...

bench not the solution all the time ...u try download with j1708 or j1939?
offline works but not on cm870 or 71
hook up from engineer data conection line ...thats solve your problem ...one of the flash not totaly weak up ..then

just try download key off calterm or key off with insite .

keep on rock ..boy.

[Thecell]

yes very common ... in my phone every week someone calling to ask about a calibration fail problem...not only with calterm ..with insite that happent too...

bench not the solution all the time ...u try download with j1708 or j1939?
offline works but not on cm870 or 71
hook up from engineer data conection line ...thats solve your problem ...one of the flash not totaly weak up ..then

just try download key off calterm or key off with insite .

keep on rock ..boy.

Used J1939
On the drawing from cummins we could only see the J1939 connection.

The other connection said USB 4 wire.

What pins on which plug would you use. we can make any plug.

which plug OEM or ENGINE?

Thanks Bud...will keep rocking :jiggin:

[Thecell]

:manuscarf:FINALLY GOT IT !:manuscarf:

:alberteinstein: It takes, at least on this one CM870, both the J1939 and the J1708, using a Nexiq USB-Link interface on a MACBOOK Pro running Fusion with a Cummins Benchtop cable With a MODIFICATION to it to make it work. We had to supply the power through a breakout before the Nexiq and the cable....Picture to follow (when I figure out how to upload)

You must setup the nexiq for J1708 and NOT automatic detection. Use the J1708 on Pin 10 and 20 of the OEM port (50 pin for us). If you only try J1939 it won't work, Hercamps last post led us to check on a scope and data sniffer to see if there were any collisions going on in the data stream...what we saw was the initial data stream was on the J1939 then it was looking for the J1708 to transfer the calibration...so when you left it on automatic, it went to the higher speed ONLY and never went to the J1708 side.

On Alsop input, the pulling the power was the switchover that occurs with the power removed, That showed the need for the Keyswitch off..

Thanks all for your input, as each and every one put in a piece to add to the answer...and it is not in any book, I promise.
:ciao:

[hercamp]

try same from bench first ...j1708 with inste , switch off and will show same rom boot mode need cal ...bla bla bla..and download cal file ..after that ..if download is succefully u will be able to try calterm or insite with switch on .. insite will restauring your data link problem .

let me know if works .

[hercamp]

you shoot first this time ...i post later ....lol


good job.

[Thecell]

Oh forgot to add...It was done on Insite 7.4.0.244

[Thecell]

you shoot first this time ...i post later ....lol


good job.

Only a faster internet speed, we cheat a little, we are on the backbone of internet, our speed is 100+ meg/sec...

Thanks again.

[Thecell]

Now confirming The switch off mode...
When we switch off the "Key" with the calibration being installed, the amperage drops back down to the 0.1 amps that it is suppose to be at with the key off. So we can deduct that in boot mode, the key off doesn't have the same effect as in a calibrated state.

Yes to answer the question, we are going to do this again to confirm what we did can be repeated...

[Thecell]

Calterm;

Was able to repeat the calibration upload and download...the upload (saving to the computer) took almost a full hour to do. The download to the ECM took 17 min.

During the download, we tried it with key off and key on and during the middle of the cycle, switching the key on and off multiple times. It didn't matter to calterm. The calibration finished ok and checked out on the bench for all parameters.

[Thecell]

Here are the photos I mentioned in the earlier post...Finally figured out how to upload.

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[alsop]

Here are the photos I mentioned in the earlier post...Finally figured out how to upload.

144451 144450
I knew you would figure it out. You're like me, if it takes a thousand dollars of equipment and a year, this problem is not going to get the best of me!
Thanks for sharing the info.

[Thecell]

I knew you get would figure it out. You are like me, if it takes a thousand dollars of equipment and a year, this problem is not going to get the best of me!
Thanks for sharing the info.

Any time Bud.. THis is what the Original DK was all about.

[makura]

for 111 , just change xicor ,in pcb ....and read and buy new one and read old ,write .

aftter that works oki.
You can replace the Xicor 28c64 and calibrate using calterm then later edit the part number ,serial number ,ecm id...etc using calterm in development mode.
No need to read the old one or copy it,just in case the file might be corrupt.

[hercamp]

YES , but develpment mode is not avalible to change that parameters in all ecm , in special the celect plus , not a good data adquisition on fly , some ecm parts numbers also not accept a big transfer of bits , after that is just post on way not complicated
is only my experience .

[justme84]

Could someone tell me if Cummins Celect Ecms use the same Bench Harness as a Celect Plus? I've searched the forums but can only seem to find schematics for Celect Plus's which left me wondering if their the same? Im trying to hook up to a 3619037. Thanks in advance.

[hercamp]

mmm...same bench squematic for power and ignition switch,

diference on data link , and celect ecm;s not have rom boot mode.

[justme84]

Would anyone have a complete schematic/Pinout for a Celect Ecm? One with Connector views would be great if Possible.

[dread]

yes you can use the same harnesses if you modify them a little like i did on mine... all you have to do is take a sharp blade or a soldering iron and cut at out grooves at the end of your harnesses to match the celect plus ones and you are done....

don't forget to thank if it this is helpful

[justme84]

Is the wiring the same on the celect and celect Plus though? I have found bits and pieces of information on the celect and it seemed to Pin out differently?

[dread]

Is the wiring the same on the celect and celect Plus though? I have found bits and pieces of information on the celect and it seemed to Pin out differently?

The OEM harness is the one which has some different pin configurations.:idea:

[dread]

dear guys woul you be so kind and help with a problem with a Cummins Celect Plus 3408303
I was being able to acces to the ECM, but it told me that the ECM needed to be recalibrated, so I selected autodetect calibration and suggested the right for the truck,

I follow all the steps to recalibrate, but at the end of all the operations the last 3 steps failed and the calibration did not transfer succesful.

I did all of this from the conection inside the driver cab,

after not workinf the calibration download process, I decided to to try with the connection from the engine, and looked like it was going to work , because some more new bars reload... making look good, and before I was able to turn the ignition key on...

again the transfer failed, the laptop disconnect from the ecm and now

I can not with ECM....
what can I do... the ECM is like not detected.. insite tell me to check connection but I know all cables are good...

thanks in advance for your help...
I will appreciate it a lot any help...

TAMBIEN hablo espanol.

Last Update:
Now the truck does not turn on, I'm in troubles, 'cause the first problem was too much smoke, but now, I have to make it turn on..
Any help is appreciate it a lot...

just turn the key on and off again and connect to the ECM whilst the key is at off state... remember that the Celect Plus ECM calibrates using the engine connector and it calibrates while the key is off....
so when it connects, select your calibration file and start your calibration process and when it requests you to turn the key off, your key is already off so don't change the key state to on... just click OK and it will continue with the calibration....

the reason why it didn't connect was because it is in the ROM boot state...

DON'T Forget to thank if it is helpful.:idea:

[dread]

Hie Guys

I have an ISX 500- CM570 and it has an ESDN problem.
I tried to calibrate it using Insite and Calterm, but it doesn't accept the calibration...
Can any one help me reprogram or recalibrate it. i am thinking if i put it to ROM BOOT mode it might work on Calterm, but i don't know how to put it to boot mode...

Pliz Help and thank you in Advance

[ddmech]

goto tools on calterm.Hit unlock.When the screen opens hit display parameters,When ecm connects change 6ood to doa.This should put it in boot rom.

[alsop]

goto tools on calterm.Hit unlock.When the screen opens hit display parameters,When ecm connects change 6ood to doa.This should put it in boot rom.

I also posted this in another thread. Multiple requests are confusing and against the rules as spamming. Please try posting requests only once.
Thanks

[carlos mata]

help pc id 75660C4D insite thanks ver:7.03.00.266

[transinter]

help pc id 75660C4D insite thanks ver:7.03.00.266

first you have to read a little before posting
insite codes elsewhere and being treated

[adis99]

anyone interested in ecm booting from ROM,i bought tool that allows you to do it without having to plug in to a truck
i scanned tool manual included its all in this thread:

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f164/cummins-ecm-bench-calibration-300783/

[adis99]

does anyone know if there a manual or some kind of guide for cummins calterm by any chance?

[hugos31]

Please, I need electrical diagram of connections (pinout) cummins ecm CM2150c ...,,,http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5227/p1020196f.jpg I want to simulate, ecu work, on the table

[jctech]

does anyone know if there a manual or some kind of guide for cummins calterm by any chance?

The manual is installed as part of calterm
C\Calterm III\CaltermIII.chm
There is also an error and troubleshooting guide, (a bit out of date)

[alsop]

does anyone know if there a manual or some kind of guide for cummins calterm by any chance?
You posted this request in other threads. Please try not to multi post for the same request, It gets really confusing and is spamming the forum.
Thanks

[4hillbilly]

cummins insite 7.6 is in ios format on the cummins download site, and the old 7.4 keygen still work on it

[alsop]

cummins insite 7.6 is in ios format on the cummins download site, and the old 7.4 keygen still work on itBe careful to read the news letters for this version. It is only for Win7 and as posted in the past by ,The Cell, the password will need updated every 90 days "online" sometime in 2013.
Win XP versions will no longer be supported with updates.

[4hillbilly]

having trouble with 7.6 now on win 7wiil stick with 7.5

[jhon silva]

friends, the ISX CM870 ECM can be repaired by internal faults?
wonder why I have 4 damaged and I would like to fix

[Thecell]

DKer's,
Have a New ISX-15 CM2350 ECM.. The plug looks to be a Delphi 96 pin. Does anyone have the proper part number for this plug?
Thanks

[mondao]

I could only find this topic, I hope helps a little
use XPS Viewer to see files:hmmmm2:

[Thecell]

I could only find this topic, I hope helps a little
use XPS Viewer to see files:hmmmm2:


Thanks Bud...Got that on Cum...s site too. They don't say much about the plugs or part numbers. Guess I'll have to wait until the truck shows up and look for the Delphi part number on the actual plug. I'll post it here then.

Thanks again for trying.

BP

[tap50]

Cummins CM2350 Connectors

13839473 connector
15494608 cover lever
15494614 cover
13627884 terminal
13627887 terminal
13627886 terminal
15318164 plug cavity

[Thecell]

Cummins CM2350 Connectors

13839473 connector
15494608 cover lever
15494614 cover
13627884 terminal
13627887 terminal
13627886 terminal
15318164 plug cavity

IMpressive! :congrats: Thanks!

[detroit747]

Hi everyone, I've got an Ecm from an early cm570 that I tried to recalibrate with the wrong cal file. I had three Ecm on my bench at the same time and accidentally plugged the wrong one in. Anyway the recalibration failed and I would have assumed the Ecm would be in a Rom booted state but it's not. I cant communicate with it at all and have no j1708 light on my DPA 3. I've opened the Ecm and there is nothing that appears burn or anything. Does anyone have any ideas for salvaging this or is it a lost cause ??

[Thecell]

Hi everyone, I've got an Ecm from an early cm570 that I tried to recalibrate with the wrong cal file. I had three Ecm on my bench at the same time and accidentally plugged the wrong one in. Anyway the recalibration failed and I would have assumed the Ecm would be in a Rom booted state but it's not. I cant communicate with it at all and have no j1708 light on my DPA 3. I've opened the Ecm and there is nothing that appears burn or anything. Does anyone have any ideas for salvaging this or is it a lost cause ??


You might want to try the technique we did here:

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f164/cummins-ecm-repair-tips-123306/index40.html#post1699404

hope it helps....

[detroit747]

You might want to try the technique we did here:

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f164/cummins-ecm-repair-tips-123306/index40.html#post1699404

hope it helps....

Thank but that was a cm871 Ecm the one I'm have a problem with is a cm570

[Thecell]

Thank but that was a cm871 Ecm the one I'm have a problem with is a cm570

No worries m8...figured any chance is better than none...

[detroit747]

No worries m8...figured any chance is better than none...

Yeah your right there they are to expensive to throw away if you can help it

[BimmerGT1]

HI
Are you getting 100volts on the big green capacitor? If you check just behind your actuater harness you will see surface mounted transisters in between two heat sinks,they should be six in number,check that none of them have a shot circuit,if so replace and that fault code should be history.

Hi Makura sorry Im off topic but you seems to have a lot experience with cummins I been trying to connect with calterm to a celect plus from engine connector I have some config files and ept files I think ,but when I try to download the image from ecu I ask me for 2 files wich I dont know like a destination file. I have a problem with 2 ecm 1 is working fine on this truck but second one is not, so I try to download the image and transfer to the other but no luck. I will keep reading your post seems to be interesting.

Thak you for your great help to people like me who wants to learn a new trade.

[OZ Flasher]

Hi could some point me in the direction of how to reset the ECM hours back to 0 on a CM850

[SaMirakle]

Hi could some point me in the direction of how to reset the ECM hours back to 0 on a CM850

You'll probably be needing to use Calterm for that task. Try posting in the Calterm thread here:

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f166/cummins-calterm-86145/

[makura]

Hi Makura sorry Im off topic but you seems to have a lot experience with cummins I been trying to connect with calterm to a celect plus from engine connector I have some config files and ept files I think ,but when I try to download the image from ecu I ask me for 2 files wich I dont know like a destination file. I have a problem with 2 ecm 1 is working fine on this truck but second one is not, so I try to download the image and transfer to the other but no luck. I will keep reading your post seems to be interesting.

Thak you for your great help to people like me who wants to learn a new trade.
Destination file is the file name it will be saved as,so give it a name you will remember and dont forget the destination were it is saved.:party :
Good luck

[amosquedat]

I have a Celect ECM, shows me all injectors at fault and when I try to turn it shows me all the sensors fails, where I can begin to repair

Thanks to all

[mr sal]

Please precise insit + 6.7 kg

[hpcummins]

Hello,

I have a celect plus ecm that will not take a cal, even after rom boot with a bench harness. I noticed that the bootloader version box is blank in Calterm when I am connected to it. Is the bootloader available as a file, and can it be reloaded into the ecm?

Thanks!
HP

[donniemnemonic]

Hello,

I have a celect plus ecm that will not take a cal, even after rom boot with a bench harness. I noticed that the bootloader version box is blank in Calterm when I am connected to it. Is the bootloader available as a file, and can it be reloaded into the ecm?

Thanks!
HP


Hi m8

Have you tried unlocking the module? That sometimes helps.

Regards

Donniemnemonic

[donniemnemonic]

I have a Celect ECM, shows me all injectors at fault and when I try to turn it shows me all the sensors fails, where I can begin to repair

Thanks to all


Hi m8

What fault codes are you getting from ECM? Be specific this can help in your troubleshoot.

Regards

Donniemnemonic:shot:

[hpcummins]

Hi m8

Have you tried unlocking the module? That sometimes helps.

Regards

Donniemnemonic

Thanks,
Will try that tomorrow and let you know.
HP

[donniemnemonic]

Thanks,
Will try that tomorrow and let you know.
HP


Hi m8

Good luck! will try to help as best as I can. Do let me know how it goes.

Regards

Donniemnemonic:tee:

[hpcummins]

Hi m8

Good luck! will try to help as best as I can. Do let me know how it goes.

Regards

Donniemnemonic:tee:

Donniemnemonic,

I used calterm unlock, found status was 1DOA. I changed it to 5EED, then to 600D, turned the ignition off for 30 seconds, then back on and much to my amazement run location is now default and the original cal file and parameters are back!

Thanks!
HP

[donniemnemonic]

Donniemnemonic,

I used calterm unlock, found status was 1DOA. I changed it to 5EED, then to 600D, turned the ignition off for 30 seconds, then back on and much to my amazement run location is now default and the original cal file and parameters are back!

Thanks!
HP

Hi Hpcummins
Glad you got it working again, though I can't take credit for that you figured that one all on your own. Seems the more we play around with calterm the more we seem to learn.
Did not even realise that it was possible to revert to default and regain full operational functionality from Romboot without having to recalibrate. Nice share m8.:congrats:
Do you know if there are any E2m files for celect ecms besides the ones posted here by Jctech cause all the ones here do not display the correct ecm part and serial numbers. Unlike the celect plus ecms and so I am not sure of the accuracy of the information uploaded from celect ecms.
Regards
Donniemnemonic

[sara_suansun]

I need rom boot mode schematic for QSK19 ecm part No 3867743
Please any body help me
Best Regards:beer:

[Thecell]

Hi Hpcummins
Glad you got it working again, though I can't take credit for that you figured that one all on your own. Seems the more we play around with calterm the more we seem to learn.
Did not even realise that it was possible to revert to default and regain full operational functionality from Romboot without having to recalibrate. Nice share m8.:congrats:
Do you know if there are any E2m files for celect ecms besides the ones posted here by Jctech cause all the ones here do not display the correct ecm part and serial numbers. Unlike the celect plus ecms and so I am not sure of the accuracy of the information uploaded from celect ecms.
Regards
Donniemnemonic

Pm me with the specific model...I will look to see what I have.
BP

[hpcummins]

Hi Hpcummins
Glad you got it working again, though I can't take credit for that you figured that one all on your own. Seems the more we play around with calterm the more we seem to learn.
Did not even realise that it was possible to revert to default and regain full operational functionality from Romboot without having to recalibrate. Nice share m8.:congrats:
Do you know if there are any E2m files for celect ecms besides the ones posted here by Jctech cause all the ones here do not display the correct ecm part and serial numbers. Unlike the celect plus ecms and so I am not sure of the accuracy of the information uploaded from celect ecms.
Regards
Donniemnemonic

Here is a celect e2m that I believe is a different number than JC Tech's. It's the only one I have. Let me know how it works.

HP

[bekamon]

hello , I have a ECM of ISC/ISL whit the following problem , INITIAL FOOTPRINTED, how i can do to reprogram it

plesas help me

[jctech]

hello , I have a ECM of ISC/ISL whit the following problem , INITIAL FOOTPRINTED, how i can do to reprogram it

plesas help me
Use Insite and the InCal disks (posted elsewhere). Be sure to use the "save and restore" option in Insite

[sara_suansun]

I need rom boot mode schematic for QSK19 ecm part No :3867743
Please some one help me
Best Regards
:canabis:

[donniemnemonic]

Here is a celect e2m that I believe is a different number than JC Tech's. It's the only one I have. Let me know how it works. HPHi m8sThanks for the e2m file you posted Hpcummins. Have tested it and still reading the wrong part and serial numbers. Tested with P/N 3618046, 3619037 and 3084473.Does anyone have an e2m file for these part numbers that works correctly? Please post if any.The Cell please post the celect e2m files you have.RegardsDonniemnemonic

[hercamp]

i have celect ecm, that after to program many times , stop the download for adapter fail, and get rom booted, someone know how can i blanck the ecm?

i try all as posible, with insite and calterm, but cant download any calibration file.


thanks

[jctech]

maybe it is your inline adapter that is the problem, not the ECM?

[cumminsisx]

do u have room boot cable use that it will unlock it

[Poptest]

Rom boot information is posted on this thread.

[hercamp]

thanks jc , not the inline i try with inline 2 and 4 ..5 and nexiq usb link , problem is the ecm.

poptest..yes the info is here but thats for how to get rom boot. i need take out or runn from rom boot to default ...or just blanck ...problem it is a celect and not rom boot .

[makura]

thanks jc , not the inline i try with inline 2 and 4 ..5 and nexiq usb link , problem is the ecm.

poptest..yes the info is here but thats for how to get rom boot. i need take out or runn from rom boot to default ...or just blanck ...problem it is a celect and not rom boot .

Hi Campos

For these old celect ecm you need to choose the calibration file that matches the ecm part number,if you select a calibration from a wrong part number even if if the calibration is celect it will fail half way through.In these ecm's you get 2 rom chips 27pc256 if my memory serves me right,that are one time programmable and they have this part number and the range of calibration acceptable to that ecu and you can not change this info.
Hope this helps my friend.

[makura]

Hi m8sThanks for the e2m file you posted Hpcummins. Have tested it and still reading the wrong part and serial numbers. Tested with P/N 3618046, 3619037 and 3084473.Does anyone have an e2m file for these part numbers that works correctly? Please post if any.The Cell please post the celect e2m files you have.RegardsDonniemnemonic
What do you want to do to be exect?
You should know that you cant change serial or part number in the celect ecm unless you change the 2 ROM chips in the ecm and pre-program it as the ecm wont communicate with any tool if you put blank chips on it,old design i think.

[makura]

I have a Celect ECM, shows me all injectors at fault and when I try to turn it shows me all the sensors fails, where I can begin to repair

Thanks to all
Remove and clean MC68HC05B4,it is the big chip just by the edge of the heat sinks on the power supply board.
clean all the brown waxx off and re-solder it back and bingo.

[Poptest]

Remove and clean MC68HC05B4,it is the big chip just by the edge of the heat sinks on the power supply board.
clean all the brown waxx off and re-solder it back and bingo.

How do you clean MC68HC05B4?

[parin]

Hello, can any one get ab10114.02 calibration file, ecm is rom boot mode and it will not allow to download any new calibrations. Please thanks

ESN 79004391

[makura]

How do you clean MC68HC05B4?
Take the micro off the board using your hot air station and use a small tool that can fit between the pins of the micro,turn you micro upside down and heat the pins using you hot air while scraping the waxx that is between the pins with your small tool(what ever it may be).
Now you will need very fine sand paper and just stroke your micro pins on it once or twice,this will ensure that your solder will hold with little effort and heat.
Good luck

[hercamp]

THE 2 XICOR ????OR ATMEL IN THIS BOARD I THINK .

ANY WAY .....THANK YOU SO MUCH MY FRIEND

[toshor]

hi all can any one help me I have a ISX CM570 can not clear any loged faultes or reset the trip metre also iI get a throttle pedal fault every time I start it 07-0431 soon as i us the throttle it goes drive it to
Thanks

[Tuxie]

Try using calterm... faults that Insite can't solve, can be solved by Calterm.
If it fails try pressing the Rom Boot button and reprogram it. other wise your microprocessor FPC (A.K.A Fault Processing Chip) is messed up inside the ECM.

Don't forget to like :welcoming:

[toshor]

Try using calterm... faults that Insite can't solve, can be solved by Calterm.
If it fails try pressing the Rom Boot button and reprogram it. other wise your microprocessor FPC (A.K.A Fault Processing Chip) is messed up inside the ECM.

Don't forget to like :welcoming:
I tryed using calterm still came up with the same faults I think u are right one of the processer is missed up , the ECM was one the costermer got I have replaceed the ECM with one I had that fix the throttle problem . Thanks for your reply :anonymous:

[gentechie]

can any body help me... i am trying to fix a cm530 cense as it was showing all the exhaust temp. 17.8f on a QSK60, i tried clearing all the fault logs and trend logs and reset the cense, but i am unable to calibrate it. tried a lot many ways to do it, my insite cense option of calibration goes grey not letting me to calibrate, any suggestions to how to calibrate.
i am working with bench cables 3163064
engine s. no.,33153393

[gentechie]

no help from any one of the veterans trying to fix the same but failed can anyone tell where am i going wrong my insite cense is not letting me to recalibrate the cense dont know how to fix it

[gentechie]

hi all
still awaiting for some help from any body.................. no idea to calibrate cm 530 3098771 for QSK 60G need urgent help.........

[DiegoAC]

HELP FIXING A CM850 (ISC).

220305220306220307220308220309

Ok, I got a second hand ECM from a VW truck (19.320) for free (that`s a good start). It was replaced for delivering lower performance than standard. Dealer replaced injectors, pump and so on first (with no sucess) and last replaced the ECM wich got the truck back to working order. They tried copying the whole image from the new ECM to this old ECM but it kept performing as before. No DTC codes on Insite. Could it be that Microprocesor needs to be replaced? (It has happened to me with some car ECUs like digifants 1.82 where I fixed stucked fuel trims by replacing the 68hcp11). So if anyone has a full BDM read that could help... Any other ideas? I`d like to recover this one.
Micro is MPC555LF8MZP40, looks like standard bosch BDM pad,but not sure, I`ve never read one like this.
I`ve added a few pictures of the ECM for you to have and hope it serves others that were wondering how to open it...

Thanks in advance!

[DiegoAC]

Here some more pics...
https://hotfile.com/dl/246390226/1696693/Imagenes_CM850.rar.html
Can`t go over the 5pics per topic...

[DiegoAC]

Ok guys, considering all the help I got :s: thought about giving some more info... here some pics I got about bdm connection:
221361221362221363

[vernon1]

who knows about cummins selec error 5080
what it mean and what to do please

[shisik]

hi please help i need metafile for ISLe4 calterm id - AAJ (CM850) E2M file

[ddmech]

Im looking for ecfg. file for product BAB ISM cm876.In great need and will appreciate any help,thanks.
Friend shisik,I will see what Ive got to help you out.

[ortiz]

i need help i found a active code 111 in a ecm celect plus the engine not run any idea for this problem

the fault count is 1 in this ecm

[donniemnemonic]

i need help i found a active code 111 in a ecm celect plus the engine not run any idea for this problem

Hi Ortiz
How many counts does this fault code have in your ECM?

Regards
Donniemnemonic

[Poptest]

I have a dead 3618046 Celect ECM, won't connect with Insite. Batteries were installed in series (36 vdc total).
I opened it and nothing seems to be burned out and no bad smell. I get 0.73VDC on pin 16 of actuator harness when I turn on ignition switch.
So maybe there is a chance to save this ECM. Please share information on which parts to check.

Thank you in advance.

[pajopap]

Wondering if you have boot pin info for cm2150? or diagram or picture of 4914543 Cummins bench harness THANKS !!

[Poptest]

Hi Campos

For these old celect ecm you need to choose the calibration file that matches the ecm part number,if you select a calibration from a wrong part number even if if the calibration is celect it will fail half way through.In these ecm's you get 2 rom chips 27pc256 if my memory serves me right,that are one time programmable and they have this part number and the range of calibration acceptable to that ecu and you can not change this info.
Hope this helps my friend.

I have this same problem with a 3618046 Celect ECM. It will not accept a calibration download because Insite cannot see an ECM part number and serial number. Why are these info missing, and what could have caused this?

Does this mean that this ECM is beyond repair?

Thanks a lot....

[donniemnemonic]

I have a dead 3618046 Celect ECM, won't connect with Insite. Batteries were installed in series (36 vdc total).
I opened it and nothing seems to be burned out and no bad smell. I get 0.73VDC on pin 16 of actuator harness when I turn on ignition switch.
So maybe there is a chance to save this ECM. Please share information on which parts to check.

Thank you in advance.


Hi Poptest
Well m8 hope I can help you with this one. Measure voltage on the 2 pins of the Diode pack that looks like a 2n3055 transistor marked MSC9XXX Here you should find 12v on either 1 of the 2 pins.

Regards
Donniemnemonic

[Poptest]

Hi Poptest
Well m8 hope I can help you with this one. Measure voltage on the 2 pins of the Diode pack that looks like a 2n3055 transistor marked MSC9XXX Here you should find 12v on either 1 of the 2 pins.

Regards
Donniemnemonic

Thank you for the share Donnie. I will look into this in a few days and post the results.

[ortiz]

i need help i found a active code 111 in a ecm celect plus the engine not run any idea for this problem

the fault count is 1 in this ecm

[Tuxie]

the problem is with your eeproms inside the ECM.
1:Try reprogramming it using Calterm that should do the trick.
2:If it doesn't work then you can change the eeprom 28c64
3:replace with a new one or one from an ECM that is really messed up on the bottom board.
4:Reprogramme the ECM again with Calterm

[Tuxie]

can any body help me... i am trying to fix a cm530 cense as it was showing all the exhaust temp. 17.8f on a QSK60, i tried clearing all the fault logs and trend logs and reset the cense, but i am unable to calibrate it. tried a lot many ways to do it, my insite cense option of calibration goes grey not letting me to calibrate, any suggestions to how to calibrate.
i am working with bench cables 3163064
engine s. no.,33153393

Try to put it in Rom Boot and program using Calterm. that should clear your faults, Note that if you still get faults after programming with Calterm, it means there IS actually a real fault that needs to be attended to...

Don't forget to thank

[ortiz]

ok. thanks

[Tuxie]

did it work?

[vulep]

Have anybody some expiriance with cm2150,pn 4988820?Fuse for unswitched suply always broke,I replace two protection smd diode.Fuse is ok now,but J1939 does not comunicate,when pin 45 supply with 24V.

[ortiz]

257439 i have this ecm the problem is the volt in the green capacitor have 12.3v and the data link signal is
dead i replace all electrolytic capacitors and nothink..i have other ecm celect plus the data links is dead the green capacitor have 98.3volt any solution for these ecm

[joe gp]

"Ortiz"

there obviously is a problem with the power supply on that ecm that has 12.3V on the green cap, resolve this by trouble shooting all the components relating to the power supply....rom your 12V entry pin on the plug to your green cap...you could also check first if that there isnt a short across the "big silver component"lol next to the green cap.
(hope that helps)

[ortiz]

ok.thanks joe gp

[jimbob182]

Hi, has anyone had much to do with reflashing the ISX 500hp to the ISX 600hp. Or would anyone have that incal file? thanks

[Poptest]

I have a 3619037 Celect ECM which does not communicate with Insite. Power supply seems ok as it has passed the "smell test" (nothing burned inside), and it has 12V on the shut down valve.

Please share where I could start searching for the problem.

Many thanks.

[Poptest]

Hi all.
Have been following this thread closely but have not found a sure solution for repair of fault code 111 in celect plus ecm. Others suggested replacing at28c64 memory but then there was a question of reprogramming the chip. Has anyone successfully repaired this or are we still battling for a solution?

Hello Donnie,

I now have two 3096662 Celect Plus ECMs, one has fault 111 (internal memory/microprocessor failure), and the other has fault 352 ( low 5v sensor supply).

Did you ever succeed in fixing your faulty ECM? How did you do it?

Or can some DK brother share a fix for 111 and 352 on Celect Plus?

Many thanks.....

[pajopap]

Hello Donnie,

I now have two 3096662 Celect Plus ECMs, one has fault 111 (internal memory/microprocessor failure), and the other has fault 352 ( low 5v sensor supply).

Did you ever succeed in fixing your faulty ECM? How did you do it?



Or can some DK brother share a fix for 111 and 352 on Celect Plus?

Many thanks.....

Put ECM in boot mode then reprogram (111) It work in my case .:top::top:

[mathura]

I have a celect plus with a 111 code in red, fault count 1- engine does not start

I tried reprogram with insite but programming starts and run and after a while I get error calibration fails


Any suggestions, I am not good with calterm so I don't want to mess up this ECM

Thanks

[pajopap]

I have a celect plus with a 111 code in red, fault count 1- engine does not start

I tried reprogram with insite but programming starts and run and after a while I get error calibration fails


Any suggestions, I am not good with calterm so I don't want to mess up this ECM

Thanks

Put ECM in boot mode then reprogram with cummins inside It work in my case .:top::top:

[mathura]

Put ECM in boot mode then reprogram with cummins inside It work in my case .:top::top:

How do I put ECM in boot mode, the cables that are shown in attachment are for CM570 but I need to boot celect plus

Thanks

[donniemnemonic]

How do I put ECM in boot mode, the cables that are shown in attachment are for CM570 but I need to boot celect plus

Thanks


Hi Mathura

Look closely at the diagram of the romboot cable again and you will find the celect plus diagram also on the diagram pins 10, 12, and 14 on the oem harness plug are connected to the romboot switch.

Regards
Donniemnemonic

[Roy Suryadwiananda]

Code 111, it seems difficult to cure because there must be a component chips are burning and my country if the component is hard to find / buy unless imported.
I have a 11 pcs with the same damage since 1999, after I open one by one and I can only cannibals them just for this one pcs, that will be easy to re-flash it, just as well to learn from this thread.

[Poptest]

Roy is probably correct. Yesterday I tried to boot mode and calibrate a C+ with fault 111.......no success.
By the way, how do we know if we have succeeded in putting ECM to boot mode?

[Roy Suryadwiananda]

Roy is probably correct. Yesterday I tried to boot mode and calibrate a C+ with fault 111.......no success.
By the way, how do we know if we have succeeded in putting ECM to boot mode?

"reflash / recalibration" progressing well, according to what we want.
At Insite display for the ECM repair is the same as when we connect the ECM (good conditions for test only)

[joe gp]

To all the dk brothers with 111 code on celect plus....replace eeprom 28c64 and reprogram a new eeprom with the dump file I had earlier provided.

[joe gp]

I need some help with the isx common 1k burnt resistor issue on the injectors? Could someone kindly help urgently pls

[joe gp]

Also on a celect 1807 ecm....getting 22v on green cap....stuck on this one...any advise would be appreciated

[joe gp]

Guys not sure if I can do this but id like to give out my direct contact info to fellow ecm repair brothers so as to have the ultimate cummins support network

Inbox me and we can share direct info details like bbm or wechat id.
Cheers

[joe gp]

Any help or advise?

[Lenuk]

Hi There All
If anyone can help i would greatly appreciate,
Im working on a (CNH) Case STX535 Quadtrac with a cummins QSX15 engine details as below :

Engine:
Model: QSX15
No: 79354114
Family: 9CEXL015.AAH

ECM:
P/N: 3408501
S/N: 32059403
D/C: 12152008
ESN: 79354114
E/C: N11953.01

The engine ECM has been throwing randow errors from one extreme to another from no oil pressure, high oil presure, low coolant temp, high coolant temp, no signal from crank sensor, no signal from cam sensor, even when the engine is not running with just the ignition on !.
All the Wiring and sensors have been checked and all test fine right back to the ECM, so am suspecting the ECM to be faulty or the ECM software to have gone corrupt ?.
So as assume i am looking at either reflashing the current ECM or replacing the ECM with a new one.
Either way i am going to have to program with insite using an Incal file something i have not performed on a cummins controller (programmed plenty case and jcb controllers etc).
Can any body tell me can this be performed on the machine or is an additional harness needed to allow on bench programming ?.
Also can any one tell me a step by step procedure or a guide to programming these as the last thing i want is to damage what could be a retrievable ECM or to damage a new ECM ?.
Also looking through my current INCAL disc i cannot seem to find the incal file that would be relevant to this machine/engine, unsure whether i am searching correctly or looking in the correct place ?.
Also is it possible to read an old ECM to retrieve the current file/info to flash onto a new ECM (pressuming the original file is ok) ?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

[joe gp]

Hi There All
If anyone can help i would greatly appreciate,
Im working on a (CNH) Case STX535 Quadtrac with a cummins QSX15 engine details as below :

Engine:
Model: QSX15
No: 79354114
Family: 9CEXL015.AAH

ECM:
P/N: 3408501
S/N: 32059403
D/C: 12152008
ESN: 79354114
E/C: N11953.01

The engine ECM has been throwing randow errors from one extreme to another from no oil pressure, high oil presure, low coolant temp, high coolant temp, no signal from crank sensor, no signal from cam sensor, even when the engine is not running with just the ignition on !.
All the Wiring and sensors have been checked and all test fine right back to the ECM, so am suspecting the ECM to be faulty or the ECM software to have gone corrupt ?.
So as assume i am looking at either reflashing the current ECM or replacing the ECM with a new one.
Either way i am going to have to program with insite using an Incal file something i have not performed on a cummins controller (programmed plenty case and jcb controllers etc).
Can any body tell me can this be performed on the machine or is an additional harness needed to allow on bench programming ?.
Also can any one tell me a step by step procedure or a guide to programming these as the last thing i want is to damage what could be a retrievable ECM or to damage a new ECM ?.
Also looking through my current INCAL disc i cannot seem to find the incal file that would be relevant to this machine/engine, unsure whether i am searching correctly or looking in the correct place ?.
Also is it possible to read an old ECM to retrieve the current file/info to flash onto a new ECM (pressuming the original file is ok) ?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Lenuk

Before u go try do all of that is the ecm not throwing up a fpc (fault processing communication) error code....its this processor thats rrsponsible for all fault codes...it would be safer to first locate the fpc chip on the ecm and replace that before doing anything else

Hope this helps

[Poptest]

To all the dk brothers with 111 code on celect plus....replace eeprom 28c64 and reprogram a new eeprom with the dump file I had earlier provided.

Hello joe gp. I have two C+ ECMs with FC111. I hope you can help me on some questions:

1. Where is 28C64 eeprom located?
2. I cannot find the 28C64 dump file you earlier posted. Where is it located?
3. What tool do you use to reprogram the eeprom; Calterm or another tool for eeprom reprogramming?

Many thanks...........

[joe gp]

Hi poptest.... Check ur inbox as I saw that first brother. I'll send u the dump on here later today but I gotta know what cpl you looking for first?

[Poptest]

Hello joe gp,

I was able to check on ECM today. Here is information:

Engine Serial No: 11928574

CPL: 2590

ECM P/N: 3408300

This ECM has a Fault 111.

Please share dump file for this ECM. I would like to learn how to reprogram the EEPROM.

Many thanks in advance.

[joe gp]

Hi poptest

That cpl is generic to the other common n14 engines..meaning the following cpls would work the same:
2025
2391
2592

I don't have 2590 cpl as I usually reprogramme to 2025 and it works perfectly.

If you would like..I could send u the dumps for 2025 on Monday and remember you have to reprogramme all three eeproms not just 28c64.

Sent from my HUAWEI P6-U06 using Tapatalk

[Poptest]

Hi poptest

That cpl is generic to the other common n14 engines..meaning the following cpls would work the same:
2025
2391
2592

I don't have 2590 cpl as I usually reprogramme to 2025 and it works perfectly.

If you would like..I could send u the dumps for 2025 on Monday and remember you have to reprogramme all three eeproms not just 28c64.

Sent from my HUAWEI P6-U06 using Tapatalk

What are the numbers on the other eeproms; and on what ECM part numbers can I use your dump file/s?
This is getting to be real complicated. I do have to study before I proceed.

Thanks a lot joe gp

[joe gp]

The other serial numbers are 28f512...

The dump files I will send u can be used to replace the cpls I listed above being 2025 2391 2592 all of which are n14 engines....

Find right programmer
Compatible adapters for each eeprom size and
Know which dump for each eeprom.

Sent from my HUAWEI P6-U06 using Tapatalk

[mory lanes]

Connection diagram of harness for boot rom for isb cm550 Please help ....

CELECT old can be placed in boot rom ??


both dead ecm blocked

[Poptest]

The other serial numbers are 28f512...

The dump files I will send u can be used to replace the cpls I listed above being 2025 2391 2592 all of which are n14 engines....

Find right programmer
Compatible adapters for each eeprom size and
Know which dump for each eeprom.

Sent from my HUAWEI P6-U06 using Tapatalk

Hello joe gp,

Right now, I have two C+ ECMs, a 3408300 and a 3096662, both with fault 111.
They won't accept programming from Insite, and I get this error message "ECM-C(7) Calibration download failed".
I did a robboot on the 3408300, and it still would not accept a calibration transfer from Insite.
Since I don't have any experience or equipment to program eeproms, do you know if Calterm can fix it without having to replace the eeprom?

Thanks in advance

[donniemnemonic]

Hello joe gp,

Right now, I have two C+ ECMs, a 3408300 and a 3096662, both with fault 111.
They won't accept programming from Insite, and I get this error message "ECM-C(7) Calibration download failed".
I did a robboot on the 3408300, and it still would not accept a calibration transfer from Insite.
Since I don't have any experience or equipment to program eeproms, do you know if Calterm can fix it without having to replace the eeprom?

Thanks in advance


hi Poptest
Sorry just seeing your post now have been offline for a bit but hope i can help you with this, if programming fails with insite try using calterm.i usually program with insite and when it fail;s leave insite at the stage and open calterm without disconnecting insite and just copy the ecm code to a folder on my desktop and use that to calibrate the ecm with calterm. dont know what DLA you use but Nexiq allows me to connect to the ecm using insite and calterm at the same time.
Hope this helps
Regards
Donniemnemonic

[madcash2]

Hi Guys, need some help I had as similar occurrence where I followed the instructions to turn off the key whilst calibrating an N14 Celect Plus and the calibration failed. Now I cant connect to ecm via insite 7.6 nor calterm. I tried to connect to ecm in unlock mode on calterm and the ecm can not be detected so I tried on anther vehicle and the ecm can be be detected. So now stuck as calterm wont connect to ecm nor will insite. I read on one of the post someone talked about using insite boot? ive never used this feature please assist me if you have any idea how I can get connected to the ecm again.

thanks in advance

[ddmech]

Hi Guys, need some help I had as similar occurrence where I followed the instructions to turn off the key whilst calibrating an N14 Celect Plus and the calibration failed. Now I cant connect to ecm via insite 7.6 nor calterm. I tried to connect to ecm in unlock mode on calterm and the ecm can not be detected so I tried on anther vehicle and the ecm can be be detected. So now stuck as calterm wont connect to ecm nor will insite. I read on one of the post someone talked about using insite boot? ive never used this feature please assist me if you have any idea how I can get connected to the ecm again.

thanks in advance

Insite doesnt have a boot mode unless you are flashing with it.Then it is automatic.What you need is a bench cable with rom boot switch.That will manualy put it in boot friend.Usually works for me.

[Disconnected]

hi, im loocking for callibration file for CM800 ISBe 6 cyl ECM 84002253 / 4898112

[omarbl]

Hi poptest

That cpl is generic to the other common n14 engines..meaning the following cpls would work the same:
2025
2391
2592

I don't have 2590 cpl as I usually reprogramme to 2025 and it works perfectly.

If you would like..I could send u the dumps for 2025 on Monday and remember you have to reprogramme all three eeproms not just 28c64.

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Hi, please you can send me the dump files of the 28c64 and the 512 eeproms?

[bronwynbarnard]

Hi, I am also looking for the solution to the 1k resistor blowing on the isx ecm please let me know if you have a solution

[Tuxie]

There are a number of resistors on the board, you have to specify which section it is that you are trying to fix... otherwise check all the transistors surrounding that area for short circuit.

don't forget to thank

[bronwynbarnard]

Tuxie its one of the 5 or 6 1k resistors near the mosfets second from bottom in blue
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[bronwynbarnard]

Any ideas or experience on the Cummins isx ecu problem above

[marckoliva]

Thanks for this useful info

[hercamp]

Hi, i have an isb ecm, that seems all be ok , i mean no components blowed . But problem is positive to ground , and impossible energized .
Can someone gimme advise ?

[donniemnemonic]

Hi, i have an isb ecm, that seems all be ok , i mean no components blowed . But problem is positive to ground , and impossible energized .
Can someone gimme advise ?

Hi Hercamp.
Did you manage to win with this problem? haven't been on DK lately but would really like to help like you have always helped me in the past. Is this an ISBe ecm?

[hercamp]

Hey donnie , yes isbe. Cummins. Not solved, i had to replace the ecm, and try to find the problem in the old one.

[donniemnemonic]

Hey donnie , yes isbe. Cummins. Not solved, i had to replace the ecm, and try to find the problem in the old one.

Hi Camp.
Sorry for a late response. Hope I understand your post clearly but i once had an isbe ecm that failed and shorted between positive and negative and i resolved the issue by replacing the large surge protection diode inside the ecm. if that is your problem then just removing the diode will cause your ecm to work again but you will need to replace it for future protection of the ecm. hope this helps.
regards
Donniemnemonic

[hercamp]

Thank you donnie

[Poptest]

I have a 3619037 Celect ECM with fault 342. Engine does not start and it also does not communicate with Insite.

Please advise me if there is a way to fix this.

Thank you.

[JustinS]

celect plus ecm not reving up any solutions .

[Tuxie]

Did you try to put the key switch on and accelerate full throttle three times before starting the engine?
If so there could be an internal power supply failure, which could be lost of the 5volts to the accelerator pedal or there is no ground within the ECM to that circuit.
hope this helps...

[Tuxie]

All you need to do is to put it in )ROM BOOT MODE)

Have your calibration cd and your insite ready for calibration and have an OEM harness connector with you (preferably a short harness connector with loose ends/wires)
Put together these wires from your OEM harness pins 10+12 and 14 together then turn key on while holding these wires together in order for the ECM to swith into ROM Boot mode...
after this process connect to Insite and calibrate the unit using that same part number. CAUTION: MAKE SURE YOU USE THE SAME PART NUMBER WHEN CALIBRATING EVEN IF IT FAILS TO CALIBRATE AND WHEN RESTARTING THE CALIBRATION...

ITS WISE TO DO THIS PROCESS ON THE BENCH....

Don't forget to thank.:chuncky:

[Tuxie]

Those are for the injectors. usually they are blown by the faulty mosfets. they supply current to the mosfets and there is an overload to the resistors.

[Soondro]

Hi bud I have the same problem please let me kW if u find the problem but I have a feeling it's a soft ware problem cause if u leave the unite on for about five mins u can put the restore in while the unite is on n u will c it don't blow let's chat on email shaunchetty2510@gmail.com

[williepsis]

Hola amigos

cualquier immo fuera, FORD F100 XLT 3.9 DIESEL

ECU es CUMMINS MOTOR COMPANY

P / N 4898112
S / N 84165667
E / C T90179.01
SC 98463
ESN 36187110

MEMORIA 95640

como hago para subir lectura de la memoria?

[david angarita]

372134

if you serve .. internal ECM nesecito diagram isx cm570 ... I have a problem with a module with code 124 always active (temperature Admission) and 213 (oil temperature) Could someone Past work (not for harness circuit problem. It is 100% internal circuit module someone could help me?

[Roy Suryadwiananda]

"with code 124 always active (temperature Admission)" >> right 124 fault code guys?