Mercedes dash calculation

[megaexplosionman]

HI all M8

I need some help please about mercedes classe S W220 dash

chip is 24C04 year is 1999

Here is dump, if someone can put me 125800km

i dont know how much it is right now....

I need to do EZS also ?

thanks all :thrasher:

[tachonow]

HI all M8

I need some help please about mercedes classe S W220 dash

chip is 24C04 year is 1999

Here is dump, if someone can put me 125800km

i dont know how much it is right now....

I need to do EZS also ?

thanks all :thrasher:
Fill in your dump on lines 00 and 10 with B5 1E.

[megaexplosionman]

Thanks you M8

But how you did it ?

because when i do that :

125800/16=7862,5 hex =1EB6 xoR FFFF= E149

i have this E149 and you B51E

wich one is good ?

thank all

[martin292009]

B51E good...

[tachonow]

Algos in dashes are not rules for all.

[megaexplosionman]

Hi guys

i have a problem with this dash

I have put it back in car and now i have 0km and "default compteur" message.

Does i need to delete error with star or tool like this ?

thanks

[martin292009]

virginiza original memory and gravel original file ...
then once the car works well, back to memory and passed the file for editing

[megaexplosionman]

virginiza original memory and gravel original file ...
then once the car works well, back to memory and passed the file for editing


Thanks for the answer, but i dont understand,

I virginize 24C04 and i put back original file, i try it and after i put modified file again ?

[tachonow]

With your posted dump now show 4304km and swapped 53264km. How much is the real value. I can modify for you but seems to be not an original dump or bad readed.

[martin292009]

1er: put original dumps...
2do: :rock:stard cards .. if it all ok...
3ro: modific the dumps... new km...

[megaexplosionman]

With your posted dump now show 4304km and swapped 53264km. How much is the real value. I can modify for you but seems to be not an original dump or bad readed.

I think dump is good i have readed it several time to verify it.

but maybe there is probleme with upa because it was 24C04WP

maybe when its write protect with upa there is some problem no ?

thanks

[hkirov]

Hi guys i have same problem, i replaced to a newer dash, and now have the issue of having tho readings on it and the ezs letting me with blank ----- on the dash.

I got it apart and now i am trying to make cluster virgin so i can adjust it with star back to normal.

Can you send me a virgin dump, the cluster is of 2008 CLC, it will be greatly appreciate.

And one more think after 2000 km on the new dash if i swap back the old one i get the reading from the ezs it is normal , because how will the old dash adopt the ezs reading by itself when out of the car and with such a great difference into the reading, i told it will do if less than 250km. And i am not the only one a friend had same issue.

[hkirov]

And also, can you give me a hint, I have 3 EZS modules laying around and i wish to make them vergin as well so i can remove the VIN # from them and use them in other cars as replacement.

[martin292009]

upa it ok... problems memory...
put in new 24c04.. eeprom dumps orinigal... them stard the car.. it is all ok... modific the dumps...

[zogldi]

Looked dashboard connection, sometime I have problem with broken PCB when pull up eprom.

[megaexplosionman]

Looked dashboard connection, sometime I have problem with broken PCB when pull up eprom.

Yes i think its that, i will look at this and i ll also try to put new 24c04 maybe its that,


Someone knows if my dump is corrupt or not ?


thanks a lot .

[megaexplosionman]

Hi M8

Hi guys so here is the new dump

With B51E value cars showed 0KM, now is the new dump from dash with 4km.

can someone put 125800km please ?

Here we can see that the dump have not only changed in 000 and 010 line, someone can explain me why ?

so if someone can help me it be very helpful

i cant try the original dump because car is not here.

so i hope this time its the good one:thrasher:

thanks

[megaexplosionman]

DRpeter where are you i need you help boss !

:coffin:

[martin292009]

you have to read and modific Mercedes Service ...

[megaexplosionman]

you have to read and modific Mercedes Service ...

Are you sure of that ?

Car is from 1999, so i need to delete mercedes service ?

how i can do i dont have mercedes Star, there is any other way ?

[hcip]

Here is a virgin dump from the same dash
this file is not yet coded from a new factory dash
when you write in on the chip, of course it will show ---- in lcd and need to code by star diagnose

[pecirepi]

best solution is virgin then star and write how much you need.

[megaexplosionman]

Thanks guys and girls for helping

So i need star.

i cant do it without star ?

But in tachosoft they dont talk about EZS only dash, its for this its little strange

i dont know how i can do i dont have star ........
:musicus:

:rock:

[tachonow]

Mate ! Trust me !
I have put your dump in my DP3 unit normal and swap. Thats why I asked you how much show your dash with original dump because I dont know how did you read it. You dont need Star to solve it. Just let us know if you have a good dump which show something or not. Its easy to change it after.

[hcip]

I think There is something wrong, because you told that in code B51E in mileage location shows 4km,
if you mileage code is B51E, then it should be 1228xx KM or 763xx miles show on your Dash

Up to mid 2001 I think this car has no EZS to adjust mleage
correct me if I'm wrong

[megaexplosionman]

Yes normally it dont need to change EZS

here is all the dump :

Number 1 dump is the original one with unknow kilometer, customer tell me it was maybe new

Number 2 dump is the original modified dump with B51E : this dump give 0km in the car.

Number 3 dump is the new dump from the dash after driving 4km
So the dash show now 4km

Here it is m8 :thrasher:

[PremierD]

The new Invisable dumps mate .....

[megaexplosionman]

My power can do invisible dump, here is for human dump

[hcip]

The new Invisable dumps mate .....

Ha ha ha
Sometimes so funny here
it remove all my stress

I will take a look at the dumps

[hcip]

I think there is somthing wrong with you dash mate

Because the dumps you have uploaded it shoul be display in LCD as Follows

Dump1 = 4304 km
Dump2 = 125776 km
Dump3 = 125781 km

I suggest that if you have any good dump from other vehicle
Load it in an eeprom and power up the Dash on the bench
observe if it will give any calculated km in LCD with the nearest value

If I am in my friend shop tommorrow I will test your dumps in a cluster and see if it will shows the Value that you have said
I have this kind of Dash to test on the bench

[PremierD]

My power can do invisible dump, here is for human dump

Ok mate the now visable dumps ..show
original 125,776 kms..
the other two 125,792 kms ...


It works like this .. B6 1E REVERSE 1E B6 > DECIMAL = 7862 x 16 =125,792 KMS ...

And it works in multables of 16 .. before it will change in the dump ..drive 16kms to get it to change ...

[megaexplosionman]

Ok mate the now visable dumps ..show
original 125,776 kms..
the other two 125,792 kms ...


It works like this .. B6 1E REVERSE 1E B6 > DECIMAL = 7862 x 16 =125,792 KMS ...

And it works in multables of 16 .. before it will change in the dump ..drive 16kms to get it to change ...

Thanks HCIP FOR ALL, I didnt know girls also do this job :barscarf:


Thanks premier D, maybe its that, need to drive 16 km to show good value hope its this

Someone know why there where some change on other line, not only in 000 and 010 line, because all the light goes on abs, airbag ...........

thanks all for helping :celticparty:

[megaexplosionman]

I think there is somthing wrong with you dash mate

Because the dumps you have uploaded it shoul be display in LCD as Follows

Dump1 = 4304 km
Dump2 = 125776 km
Dump3 = 125781 km

I suggest that if you have any good dump from other vehicle
Load it in an eeprom and power up the Dash on the bench
observe if it will give any calculated km in LCD with the nearest value

If I am in my friend shop tommorrow I will test your dumps in a cluster and see if it will shows the Value that you have said
I have this kind of Dash to test on the bench

Have you tested it ? do you think as premier D said, i need to drive 16km to do it ?

[martin292009]

your dash is original? what year is your cars?

[nguyennhatquang]

i bought the Used W209 2004 model CLK speedometer..
when i fit in My C200K W203, all the funcion work well except the odometter show --------
so, please help me, how to fix it.
Thank in advance.
http://www.mbsca.com/images/guide/guide38.jpg

[BigJ]

Have you tested it ? do you think as premier D said, i need to drive 16km to do it ?

Try this dump. I tried for 125800 but it gets to 125792. Close enough? Its based on your original.

[BigJ]

i bought the Used W209 2004 model CLK speedometer..
when i fit in My C200K W203, all the funcion work well except the odometter show --------
so, please help me, how to fix it.
Thank in advance.

AFAIK, the c class has a 93c86 and the clk a 24c16. If im wrong and they both the same, copy the dump from c class to clk cluster.

[PremierD]

Mate try what dump .... Its the same one that he posted B6 1E ......which is 125,792 ... ????????????

It can only be diviable by 16 ...thats why 125,800 would not work ...

[BigJ]

Mate try what dump .... Its the same one that he posted B6 1E ......which is 125,792 ... ????????????

It can only be diviable by 16 ...thats why 125,800 would not work ...

his first dump shows 4304 (0D01)

[PremierD]

Yes mate .. then 125,776 then 125,792 ... your point is ...?

[BigJ]

Yes mate .. then 125,776 then 125,792 ... your point is ...?


no point. he asked for the mileage to be set at 125800.


Originally Posted by hcip http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/digital/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f174/mercedes-dash-calculation-152454-post740405/#post740405)
"I suggest that if you have any good dump from other vehicle
Load it in an eeprom and power up the Dash on the bench
observe if it will give any calculated km in LCD with the nearest value"

I ran it thru a TU and get a closer value.

[PremierD]

Mate ... how can you get it closer than what is already posted ....don't run it through anything .. the dump you posted is the dump that he posted ... simply do the maths .. the algo is a few posts up ...+ 1 in Hex ..gives + 16 in kms .. either B5 .. 0r B6 ... there is no in between ...

[BigJ]

his last dump shows 125792 yes, but compare his and mine. B61E changes to B51E at 0x00A in his.

[BigJ]

Mate ... how can you get it closer than what is already posted ....don't run it through anything .. the dump you posted is the dump that he posted ... simply do the maths .. the algo is a few posts up ...+ 1 in Hex ..gives + 16 in kms .. either B5 .. 0r B6 ... there is no in between ...

agreed, but let him just try it. you never know.

[PremierD]

Mate ... Have you worked this out using a pencil .. and calculator ...? or just run it through a TU..... b6 1e .is overwriting the previous .. reading of b5 1e ... changing to the next value .. it cannot put in a half hex value ...

[PremierD]

Ok its late ... lets call it a day and wait ....

[BigJ]

Mate ... Have you worked this out using a pencil .. and calculator ...? or just run it through a TU..... b6 1e .is overwriting the previous .. reading of b5 1e ... changing to the next value .. it cannot put in a half hex value ...
ok i see your point. if i change the first B5 to B6 the mileage goes up to 125792. Im basing what I said on always changing all the necessary code. Like I said, put it thru a simple TU and it shows a difference in the two lines. No harm in trying.:creep:

[z786]

put it thru a simple TU

mate, PremierD has a hex calc in his head, no need for a TU, he is a genius......... TRUST ME ON THAT 1

theres no point hoping, its a battle lost

[PremierD]

Do we want to get into a debate about algo's mate ...? because we will be here all week ... I know them all and was working them out ,, before any TU was invented ...so lets just leave it here .shall we ?

[BigJ]

HI all M8

I need some help please about mercedes classe S W220 dash

chip is 24C04 year is 1999

Here is dump, if someone can put me 125800km

i dont know how much it is right now....

I need to do EZS also ?

thanks all :thrasher:

No offence intended to u here PremierD. Im sure you are a genius with algos. Not negotiable. Wont even attempt to argue you on that. I said already I learned something from u re the overwriting of the previous value 2 posts back. I never knew that. And dont know much on the algo subject in general either.

But I do know this: Megaexplosionman asks all for some help. Ive been working for Merc Dealerships for +-14 Years so I maybe know my way around them. Ive done one or two of these clusters too, with a beat up TU, and it works every time. So I deduce he is using a UPA, and just putting my 2cents worth in put his dump in my old TU. And I see something different. So I post the difference. He also mentions in his last post "Someone know why there where some change on other line, not only in 000 and 010 line, because all the light goes on abs, airbag ...........". With my meagre experience with Merc's, I know that if something is amiss in the code, things like that happen. So try it is what Im saying, Because it has happened with me before, albeit on a W211. But I fixed it.

[hcip]

Hello mate
The problem of the member who ask help is not about our knowledge in algo
The real problem is that the cluster never shows the calculated kilometer

as he mentined B61E on its algo shows 4 kilometer in his cluster which is not correct

So I suggest him to load another good dump and power up the cluster on the bench not in the car

and if the cluster show the correct mileage that has been calculated, there is something wrong with the dump

from that procedure we can get a reference regarding his problem

[hcip]

@ Megaexplosionman
Try the dump from BigJ, and power up the cluster on the bench. I am in front of my Cluster and it shows 125792 KM

If your dash will not show this value there is somthing wrong with it

[BigJ]

Right now Im with you. Im assuming his original dump was ok. The problem I also encounted with a w220 was the dump was for the wrong region. It worked fine on the bench. ( Give a +ve to pins 4, 6 & 15. Give a -ve to pins 1 & 2) But when put into the car, it did some funny things suddenly. You are right then about loading the virgin dump and using the Star to code the cluster.

[nguyennhatquang]

AFAIK, the c class has a 93c86 and the clk a 24c16. If im wrong and they both the same, copy the dump from c class to clk cluster.
yes, my C Class is 93C86 and the W209 is 24C16...
do u think they can copy to each other because the chip is diffirent, pin is diffirent, i think the dump is diffirent too..
so i want to virgin my 24C16.. how can i do it ?
thank you so much.

and my W209 cluster is American CLuster with MPH while my Original C200 W203 is KM/H

[megaexplosionman]

Right now Im with you. Im assuming his original dump was ok. The problem I also encounted with a w220 was the dump was for the wrong region. It worked fine on the bench. ( Give a +ve to pins 4, 6 & 15. Give a -ve to pins 1 & 2) But when put into the car, it did some funny things suddenly. You are right then about loading the virgin dump and using the Star to code the cluster.

Thanks for helping i ll try you dump and post feedback

So i just put +12V TO 4,6,15 pin and -12V to 1 and 2 pin ?

Thanks Hcip can you tell me what mean TU ?

[PremierD]

Tacho Universal ... mate

[megaexplosionman]

Tacho Universal ... mate

thanks :party : Maybe TU will be good to expanded my power

[n599fbm]

Hi Friends !!

If of something serves, enclosed reading of CLK C220 (24c16) 2004.

But I dont have the connections of the EZS for Tacho Univ.
Someone can send me the EZS connections ?

Tks !!!

Rgds,

C.

[drpeter]

Hi Friends !!

If of something serves, enclosed reading of CLK C220 (24c16) 2004.

But I dont have the connections of the EZS for Tacho Univ.
Someone can send me the EZS connections ?

Tks !!!

Rgds,

C.

If I sent you the EZS connections you still cannot do this with tacho universal. You need another programmer for this.

[n599fbm]

Thank you so much for its fast answer !!

I?ve the UPA Porg. It will serve??? but havent the connections !!
Best Rgs,

C.

[BigJ]

yes, my C Class is 93C86 and the W209 is 24C16...
do u think they can copy to each other because the chip is diffirent, pin is diffirent, i think the dump is diffirent too..
so i want to virgin my 24C16.. how can i do it ?
thank you so much.

and my W209 cluster is American CLuster with MPH while my Original C200 W203 is KM/H

Does the car start with the clk cluster installed? If it does, ask Hcip for a virgin dump, load it then do a coding with a star. Thats all I can think of, dont think you would need to do the EIS, unless you wanted a different mileage.

[n599fbm]

Tks BigJ !!

Yes, i need change the mileage to km 57000,
Dash already this modified, km 00000.
Now, I need change the mileage in the EZS, but I dont have the connections for the UPA or Tacho Universal !!

Many tks !!!

Rgds,

C.

[BigJ]

I use a CAS programmer for that so cant help u there. Dr Peter is the guy to ask. He is a true "walking genius" on the subject. None the less, I would first get the odo to work by trying the virgin dump file before worrying about the EIS.

[n599fbm]

Hi DrPeter !!,

You would be able you to help me with this information??
You know a lot on the matter !!

You that advises me?
Many thanks to all!!!

Best Rgds,

C.

[n599fbm]

Hi Bidj !!

Ive the R250,

With this equippment will be able??

Tks and rgds,

C.

[BigJ]

Hi Bidj !!

Ive the R250,

With this equippment will be able??

Tks and rgds,

C.

You need R260. R250 is for the Golf 5/Audi/TT encrypted Micronas/Siemens dash. I dont know if it can do any others? Anyone know if it can??:hmmmm2:
J

[milesbetteroff]

hi guys it will always show------ unless you flash the dash it needs to see ezs or be flashed this is the only soution i do know i have replaced dashes on these before i hope this helps

[cdogar]

Hello.
I have a problem.
I changed the km with star diag at a dashbord w220.
After 3 weeks the kilomters stands up at 120 kw / h and it is not working any more.
It is related?
Or something else gone wrong?

[knok]

Hello.
I have a problem.
I changed the km with star diag at a dashbord w220.
After 3 weeks the kilomters stands up at 120 kw / h and it is not working any more.
It is related?
Or something else gone wrong?


Please see here : Speedo needle stuck, W211, W209, C219 - Pixelfehler-HH (http://www.pixelfehler-hh.de/products/en/Mercedes-Benz/Dashboard-Repair/E-Class-CLK-CLS/Speedo-needle-stuck-W211-W209-C219.html)

maybe your problem is like one of this

[cdogar]

Ok. But could be related the problem with the fact that i changed the km ?