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ninja123
19th January, 2012, 04:32 PM
Im in need of immo removal on this car, due to intermitant key not recognised.

Found a white immo box behind clocks, with a 93c46 inside.

Can immo off be done from here??

oep
19th January, 2012, 11:24 PM
no, need ecu dumps.

ninja123
20th January, 2012, 05:31 PM
Ok mate, ill get ecu off and open up.

ninja

ninja123
23rd January, 2012, 05:23 PM
I have ecu from this car now, bosch 281 001 255/256

Can anyone tell me where immo is in this ecu, I need to read for immo off?

I see 2x B58196 inside.

Is this possible by flash through obd?

I cant find any info for this ecu anywhere.

Many thanks for any help, ninja

Meat-Head
23rd January, 2012, 11:50 PM
Hi use the search botton *THINK* member super Jumble had one of these, but might be incorrect.

on the chips, if pins 1234 are joined it's a 24CFKW (~~~~~ knows what0

mEAT

ninja123
24th January, 2012, 06:53 AM
I have searched endlessley for any info on this ecu, but nothing.............

I think I have found every other ecu number except this one!

Any one got any info please??:(

ninja

neriuks007
24th January, 2012, 07:28 AM
try and report ,put in left eeprom this file and disconnect immo box

ninja123
24th January, 2012, 06:46 PM
try and report ,put in left eeprom this file and disconnect immo box

Thanks mate, but which is left eeprom, looking from what angle??

Is eeprom B58196 same as 93c46??

ninja

neriuks007
24th January, 2012, 07:38 PM
left from conector,yes eeprom the same

ninja123
24th January, 2012, 08:32 PM
How the hell do I get this chip off the board, I use lots of hot air and it wont move, and pcb is getting warped:(

This is 'through hole' and i tried with heat on both sides but it wont come!

I am novice with this, All I done is surface mount, am I doing wrong??

ninja

neriuks007
24th January, 2012, 08:48 PM
for you http://www.google.lt/imgres?q=lydmetalio+nusiurb%C4%97jas&um=1&hl=lt&sa=N&biw=1173&bih=622&tbm=isch&tbnid=2Abb_7Em_e9OMM:&imgrefurl=http://www.lemona.lt/index.php%3Fpage%3Ditem%26i_id%3D128332&docid=Z3qgMT9z094q5M&itg=1&imgurl=http://www.lemona.lt/LIUSE/Images/SH-817B.jpg&w=350&h=350&ei=8AofT7eUGYOXOq7_rKwO&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=223&vpy=38&dur=706&hovh=207&hovw=210&tx=113&ty=107&sig=115741534924346225166&page=1&tbnh=137&tbnw=154&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0

ninja123
24th January, 2012, 09:16 PM
Ill try with hot air again, or can i solder wire to legs and read in circuit?

ninja

Meat-Head
24th January, 2012, 09:36 PM
How the hell do I get this chip off the board, I use lots of hot air and it wont move, and pcb is getting warped:(


*SORRY* computer locked up had to reboot, will try again

1) What you have is DIL - Dual In Line

2) 3M 8 WAY DIL TEST CLIP | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3M-8-WAY-DIL-TEST-CLIP-/110713360926?pt=UK_AudioElectronicsVideo_Video_Tel evisionSetTopBoxes&hash=item19c707d21e)

FOR ~~~~S SAKE, DO NOT LOOK AT HIS EEPROM PROGRAMMER FOR 24/25/93 - YOU WILL LOOK A RIGHT ***** DOWN THE PUB - THEY DON'T WORK

3)
SPICE SLAGS

Stop right now thank you very much I need somebody with a human
touch Hey you always on the run Gotta slow it down baby, gotta
have some fun 4) Yes have to agree with the Spice Slags - you need to stop right now

Either solder wires to the board

ACTUNG, ACTUNG:

You must when reading in circuit

1) Short out the crystal next to the MCU

and/or

2) If 93CXX pin 8 - so you have the chip facing you - the notch
is on the left, pin top right, cut the track with a Stanley knife, or
if your Emerican then use an Xacto knfie

YOU WILL DESTROY THE CHIP IF YOUR NOT CAREFULL
THEN YOU WILL HAVE TO FIND A HOUSE ALARM OR SOMETHING, ROB CHIP OUT OF, OR SODLER SOME LINK WIRES ACROSS LIKE LITEACE DID

Meat

ninja123
25th January, 2012, 07:33 AM
I got chip off and read, but not much data in it, is this correct?(I read 5 times and the same).

neriuks007
25th January, 2012, 07:49 AM
try my friend

ninja123
25th January, 2012, 10:49 PM
No work, just cranks no start.

Just to confirm that I have the correct eeprom, this ecu opens out like a book, and both eeproms are just behind the ribbon cable that joins both pcb's, so looking at ecu opened up, with ribbon cable in the middle, the 2 eeproms are on the top pcb, and its the one on the right that I have removed, is this correct??

ninja

bram380
26th January, 2012, 05:17 PM
what part# immo box ?

ninja123
27th January, 2012, 05:54 PM
what part# immo box ?

no on box is 4Ao953 234F

white immo box

ninja

ninja123
31st January, 2012, 03:00 AM
Well thanks to all who replied, but looks like this one has got the better of me.

Got an ecu and immo box from scrap yard, so will just go and program key now..... if I can read pin code that is:eek:

ninja

ninja123
4th February, 2012, 01:00 PM
I fitted ecu and immo box from scrap yard, read 93lc46 in immo box, made transponder with zed bull, and immo light still flashing:hmmmm2:

Still looking for an immo solution now, can anyone help on this 1, or even where the fault might be?

thanks for any help/info, ninja

Meat-Head
4th February, 2012, 02:49 PM
1) Can you not get orginal transponder from scrapyard?
2) Try programming your 'new' transponder with your T300
3) There was one of the flyer realgious junk mail leaflets on my car wipers last week
it said "Audi immo fault - pick up coil Thanks to John With Egg 3.16"
4) Try here http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/3b0907557b-audi-a4-ahl-need-immo-off-229113/#post1262315
5) Did you say you tried superjumble his one he did file?
6) Try that Polish Twat i fell out with from Poland
sorry can't find the link was august member called 'thomascz' blue subaru
avatair - AUGUST we had an a4 petrol
7) Sorry, use the search botton, there is a VW Tourag immo off thred, V6 working

vanos batam
4th February, 2012, 03:01 PM
no on box is 4Ao953 234F

white immo box

ninja

your immo dump not good..
read again try with universal prog..
we will added you t5 key data....

keygargoil
4th February, 2012, 10:52 PM
I fitted ecu and immo box from scrap yard, read 93lc46 in immo box, made transponder with zed bull, and immo light still flashing:hmmmm2:

Still looking for an immo solution now, can anyone help on this 1, or even where the fault might be?

thanks for any help/info, ninja

was it an id13 t5 chip you were trying to programme the immo light will go out if you programme the keys i did one about 1 month ago new immo bopx and ecu read the pin and programmed the keys and it was ok

ninja123
4th February, 2012, 11:17 PM
this bag of sh!t is driving me mad!!
I got a used immo box and copied eeprom data to it and car worked for a week, then immo light keep flashing.
now got a ecu and immo box from scrap yard but no key.
read eeprom and made t5 transponder to start car.
key light still flashing.

Grrrrrrrrrrrr........

ninja

Meat-Head
5th February, 2012, 01:14 AM
1) Pull back the carpet, find a descrite piece of paint work, get your favorite
pointy sharp object, scratch one of them "German Logos'" in it - you will
feel MUCH better

2) *APPOLGIES IF THIS OFFENDS YOU* - Think you should if not already
Take note of what them regilous folks said


RELGIOUS FOLKS:-

"Audi immo fault - pick up coil Thanks to John With Egg 3.16"

ninja123
5th February, 2012, 07:55 PM
I have changed reader coil too, and with tester, its attempting to read transponder (which I have also changed).

Only option left is immo off, but no one seems to want to give any info on this one:(

cheers, ninja

Meat-Head
5th February, 2012, 09:44 PM
but no one seems to want to give any info on this one:(

Yeah, have noticed that myself - the FOUR times a year, you REALLY need help on here, no bugger helps.

At least your thread is getting bumped!

Guess you have already put a socket on the board now - got a replacement chip?

*DON't THINK* it's going to work, but TRY what Lupu_Sandu would do.

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/nissan-almera-1-8-1998-immo-off-request-225531-post1248880/?highlight=fill#post1248880

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/opel-corsa-1-2-96-year-immo-offplease-help-i-need-immo-off-file-opel-corsa-205244/?highlight=fill#post1237885

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/iaw-4wf-help-214662/?highlight=fill#post1161959

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/307-1-6hdi-227288/?highlight=fill#post1248887

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/iveco-td-immo-off-227781/?highlight=fill#post1252761

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/p207-bsi-valeo-95128-need-virgin-241852/?highlight=fill#post1353572

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/need-kill-immo-bosch-iveco-dailly-0-281-001-537-a-234223/?highlight=fill#post1299994

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/iveco-daily-0-281-001-537-immob-231291/?highlight=fill#post1279434

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/please-immo-off-civic-2001-help-please-212354/?highlight=fill#post1141623

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/siemens-old-ecu-dump-needed-210215/?highlight=fill#post1126430

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/daewoo-lanos-1-3-a-172394/?highlight=fill#post845478

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/immo-opel-tigra-1-6-16v-167973/?highlight=fill#post817720

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f155/x-prog-m-54236-post678779/?highlight=fill#post678779

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/delco-immo-cavalier-186379/?highlight=fill#post947505

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/opel-corsa-b-delco-ecu-immo-off-192704/?highlight=fill#post994402

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/magnetti-marelli-16fm-e6-immo-off-200984/?highlight=fill#post1058508

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/opel-corsa-b-delco-ecu-immo-off-192704/?highlight=fill#post994551

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/opel-corsa-b-delco-ecu-immo-off-192704/?highlight=fill#post994510

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/daewoo-nubira-immo-off-143734/?highlight=fill#post667433

jaelgti
5th February, 2012, 10:12 PM
Hello, I do 15 days off in ice immo audia a6 1998, only read
B58196 but on the right, now I'm at work tomorrow I will put pictures and other information.
(hope I'm not wrong, I speak from memory).

jaelgti
6th February, 2012, 12:13 PM
Hello is this the ECU, if you here if you need to immo off.
100X100

ninja123
6th February, 2012, 05:29 PM
Thanks man, if looking at your picture, is it top or bottom eeprom that needs to get attention, and do I need to cut immo line?

Once again, thanks a million, ninja

jaelgti
6th February, 2012, 05:38 PM
In severe image rich and clearly written with immo off bin is called rich.
And you do not say anything.

ninja123
6th February, 2012, 06:36 PM
In severe image rich and clearly written with immo off bin is called rich.
And you do not say anything.


Ay?????
translations most welcome!!!!!!

ninja

Meat-Head
6th February, 2012, 10:42 PM
Ay?????
translations most welcome!!!!!!

ninja


Think might have to translate:-

Look at the photo, then zoom in, the eeprom at the 'bottom' of the photo was a label saying 'rich' - no do German, but might be be word right!

Smash that off board, repeat experiment.

GUESSING looking at zip file word, do it in 16bit!

Meat

ninja123
7th February, 2012, 08:19 AM
thanks meat, your translation to inglish is wonderfull:)

ninja

gmb45
7th February, 2012, 08:32 AM
In severe image rich and clearly written with immo off bin is called rich.
And you do not say anything.

meaty, you got yourself some competition lol must be a relative :eek:

jaelgti
7th February, 2012, 10:31 AM
The IC has to read is on the right, "Label" (RIGHT) is responsible for the immo.

I try to help within my means.

Sorry for my English.

neriuks007
7th February, 2012, 10:47 AM
change in right,and remove immo box

Meat-Head
7th February, 2012, 09:29 PM
meaty, you got yourself some competition lol must be a relative :eek:


Dunno, but

OFF TOPIC:-

As you have Mod powers, perhaps you could look at my profile, and name and shame the TWO referal's against my profile!

M-H-M Is internet based only - how did we end up with 2 referals?

ninja123
12th February, 2012, 11:19 PM
jaelgti immo off file not worked, car starts for 1 second and dies.

immo box off before ecu plugged in.

Any more ideas or good immo off dump for this one guys?

Attatched is ori dump from right eeprom



Thanks in advance, ninja

Meat-Head
12th February, 2012, 11:26 PM
retarded question, <pops to ebay>
what fault codes, does your scanner say?
<bidding on ebay>
Have you spoke to Lupu_Sandu?

ninja123
13th February, 2012, 12:56 AM
no faults, not asked lupu yet, dont like to be pushy, if ya catch me drift!!!

ninja

Meat-Head
13th February, 2012, 10:57 PM
no faults, not asked lupu yet, dont like to be pushy, if ya catch me drift!!! ninja


1) Can't remember the excat words, but normally has a permant fault
something like "~~~~ing memory bad" or something on OBD scanner

2) If after 1 thread and 42 posts, still nil-poi - if lupu_sandu can't fix it, then ask for thread to be closd lol

3) *SORRY* use the search botton - 'ecuvonix' on here somewhere, you tried it?

4) Does it have a flash memory 24C010 (OTP)?

ninja123
14th February, 2012, 01:54 AM
not even looked for flash memory, just concentrated on writing several different files to that fat old eeprom..........

I soldered socket on board now, so ill try as many files as i can get, takes seconds now!!!

ninja

vuno01
14th February, 2012, 02:49 AM
try and report bro

immokill
14th February, 2012, 11:18 AM
Hi

Did you solved?





Regards

ninja123
14th February, 2012, 08:32 PM
not yet mate, car is not with me so i have to keep going back, i will keep thread updated.

ninja

Meat-Head
14th February, 2012, 08:34 PM
think, you would be better off, getting it towed to your place!

Rather than been off-line all the time back and forth

ninja123
15th February, 2012, 09:16 AM
My drive is full mate:):)

Still got a x type jag to sort yet too!!

ninja

Meat-Head
15th February, 2012, 03:00 PM
My drive is full mate:):)
Still got a x type jag to sort yet too!!
ninja


Get the tow truck guy, to dump where where audi comes from - simples.

jaelgti
15th February, 2012, 05:23 PM
Hello, the Audi A6 I say had no box behind the clocks must be losiento different model. Pongo image ECU. Good luck.

ninja123
15th February, 2012, 06:35 PM
At last, we have a runner!:ridinghorse:

neriuks dump worked a treat!!:congrats:

Unplug immo box and runs fine.

Thanks mate, I ow ya one.

ninja

neriuks007
15th February, 2012, 08:06 PM
:champions:i told you ninja123 to disconect immo

ninja123
15th February, 2012, 09:35 PM
:champions:i told you ninja123 to disconect immo

I did disconect immo box mate, car owner owns the garage and I took ecu to him and he let his workers plug it in!!

All sorted now, thanks for all your help.

ninja