Motorized Satellite Dish Almost Set Up

[DJSimo]

Hi, I have almost setup my motorized dish after a house move,
I am getting satellites from 53?E to 30?W.
But on sats on the east and up to 1?W I am getting around 90%+ signal,and getting all east sats including the weak ones, but on sats on the west I am missing some like, 11?W, yet around 60% signal on 12.5?W, and only 28% signal on 15?W, on 30?W I am getting 62% signal.

So not far off, but do i need to adjust the declination on my motor or on my dish or both???

As i am getting all sats east and most west, Am I right in assuming my motor is fixed in correct position and doesn't need moving east or west, just declination is slightly out somewhere????

[Rodbouy]

Is ther any channels your not getting, don't get too focused on %, each sat and tp will vary and each box will vary.

Focus on what channels you should find. Don't load a channel list and do a blank scan to confirm

[DJSimo]

I have done a scan but some channels I was getting before in other house less than 1/2 mile away, and also clear view of East to West here, Ie NBA TV on 24.5, I am now getting 0 signal, and im sure 30w was around 90% signal now only getting 50-60% signal. Also like I said in previous post I am now getting nothing on 11W

Also just checked 22w Huntington Beach 2live HD webcams and no signal from these either used to get around 80% signal from these.

[hypersonic]

There is a fine tune page to get the correct arc for your dish in my upload to the downloads section.
Go to downloads>category>satellite>page2>Diseqc motor setup.
I think the fine tuning section is page 5:proud:

[dick b]

it sounds like if your mounting pole is 100% plumb your dish is not 100% central on the motor spigot heres another motor fine tuning guide if you want one with a sheet for noting levels but if you make sure the dish is aligned spot on you shouldnt need to use it.

[Elric]

check plumbness of the pole also this might help

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTTyzH7MhHB1vM5LIN5vM3eJcvC13liU vI5Z_Oov2Bo-P92fz8kLnxVoP_J

[DJSimo]

Thanks for the replies, Ok the dish is 100% central on motor, it is still in same position as before I moved, I left the dish bracket attached to motor for the move.

This afternoon I tried some small adjustments only to dish elevation, when on west satellites ie 15west I moved dish , Can't remember now if it was up or down and got the signal up to 90% but when i went back to East the signal on East satellites had dropped and some gone totally, so tomorrow I will try again and this time write down what is happening and see which way I need to adjust the motor elevation.

Nearly there!!!!

[davvo]

put a spirit level on the pole
and make sure it dead plum on all sides
if its pissed then it wont follow the arc

watch this guy at 3.30

motorised satellite tv installation guide using USALS by HISAT - YouTube

[clashremote]

Hi new to the forums this video is gonna help me no end TY

[pedro2000uk]

..., so tomorrow I will try again and this time write down what is happening and see which way I need to adjust the motor elevation.

Don't touch the motor elevation - just make sure it's 90 minus your latitude if it says elevation or your latitude if it says latitude & make sure it's correct both sides & not twisted.

[Nutsandbolts]

Hi. If you are getting most of the satellites East and West then the problem is with the dish angle and not the motor elavation.You need to adjust the dish angle slightly up or down. Your best bet is to send it to a satellite that you dont get. Make sure that the TP for that satellite is valid and when you get the NO SIGNAL message adjust the dish angle one way or the other(ie slightly up or down). Do not move the dish up or down on the motor pole as you may end up losing some of the other satellites. A classic example of this type of problem is NOVASPORT on HELLASAT 39 EAST. If you are having problems picking up this channel and other channels like DIEMA remember it is to do with your dish angle and not your mount or elevation. A thing to remember about motors is that usually it is about the dish angles rather than where you place the dish on the motor or the elevation. This is why some people get the east sats and not the west sats or vice versa. Regards.

[Manic01]

Flex the dish top or bottom and see if signal improves.

[Nutsandbolts]

Yeah thats usually what resolves the problem but you need to adjust the angle clamp to hold it on the signal. For satellites like HELLASAT the dish needs to be straight and slightly tilted to the left to pick up the signals(same for TURKSAT). For other satellites the dish is slightly laid back a bit. With a motor once you find the correct dish angle it will automatically know what position the dish should be for all satellites. Remember that the East satellites are low and the West are high when the dish is moving. To be honest to motorize a dish is pretty simple you just need time and loads of patience. Regards.

[Manic01]

If the brackets are plumb, it's really easy quick job.
No skills required just a bit of savvy.

[DJSimo]

Ok just been checking all settings, this is whats happening:=

45 West RASDTV, stronger signal if dish is flexed down
30 West MTV Espana stronger signal if dish is flexed down
5 West A3, stronger signal if dish is flexed down
1 West BBC World, stronger signal if dish is flexed down
4.8 East News One, stronger signal if dish is flexed down
13 East Arirang, stronger signal if dish is flexed down
19.2 East Andalucia TV, stronger signal if dish is flexed down
28.2 East BBC Scot, same signal, down if dished flexed up/down
39 East Orthodox TV, stronger signal if dish is flexed up
45 East Alfa TV, stronger signal if dish is flexed up
52.5 East Saudi Sport-1HD, stronger signal if dish is flexed up
53 East 5 Channel, stronger signal if dish is flexed up

If I move dish elevation down I lose fringe East Satellites.
If I move dish elevation up I lose weak West Satellites.

Checked pole and it is plumb all over.

[dick b]

I know you didnt take the dish bracket off but I"d re check that the dish is dead central on the motor spigot because it sounds like its slightly out.
I take it you reset the latitude on the motor (or didnt you move very far)

[DJSimo]

I know you didnt take the dish bracket off but I"d re check that the dish is dead central on the motor spigot because it sounds like its slightly out.
I take it you reset the latitude on the motor (or didnt you move very far)

Which way from above results, if not dead central do you think it needs moving, towards east or west?
I only moved about half mile so latitude is still the same.

[Nutsandbolts]

Hi. When you flex the dish did you tightened the clamp up?? Otherwise the dish will return to where it was before. Regards.

[DJSimo]

Hi. When you flex the dish did you tightened the clamp up?? Otherwise the dish will return to where it was before. Regards.

Dish was tightly clamped I only flexed dish to see which way affected signal?

[pedro2000uk]

Dish was tightly clamped I only flexed dish to see which way affected signal?

what did you hold to 'flex' the dish?

[DJSimo]

what did you hold to 'flex' the dish?

ERMM the DISH?????

[mdt]

are you using t+k,s or a L bracket?... i know you say the pole is plumb but it sounds like its out of plumb from what you describe. make sure the motor bracket is totally central on the wall mount and tighten the nuts in small amounts at a time going to each nut in turn. the motor bracket needs to be sitting square on aswell, regards mdt

[pedro2000uk]

ERMM the DISH?????

best using something that can't distort the face - usually part of the AZ/EL at the back depending on the make.. depends how tough the dish is - you could do it on some older dishes

[pedro2000uk]

...and tighten the nuts in small amounts at a time going to each nut in turn. ...regards mdt

spot on ... & keep the threads the same length ... the amount of times I've seen them cranked up all over the place

[Elric]

when i had probs gettin satellites i found that the motor wasnt
on center of the pole only off by a couple degrees,so i got the motor in the center while i was tightenin the nuts up i still had the sat beeper connected so i could tell if it was going off center or not

[dick b]

Which way from above results, if not dead central do you think it needs moving, towards east or west?
I only moved about half mile so latitude is still the same.

It just needs to be accurately centralised then if your mounting pole IS 100% plumb and the dish elevation is peaked on a sat of your choice and the LNB is also centralised ("0"degrees skew) you should track the arc ok on both H & V polarities.

[pedro2000uk]

Which way from above results, if not dead central do you think it needs moving, towards east or west?
I only moved about half mile so latitude is still the same.

the motor aim needs to move a degree or so to the west [on the pole] & the dish east the same amount [on the motor drive arm] using a meter & check & tweak the el/az etc.. when you've done it a few times to balance your arc ... [without stressing the dish face or motor]

but you should really investigate what caused you to aim it slightly east ... bent az/el or feed arm or bent dish face or thin pole crushed &/or bent pole clamps or longitude settings out in stb or setting it on '0' not Thor or motor needs reseting at zero or interference or object at 1w etc. etc. rather than just shove it all round a bit as something is wrong & it's best to put that right rather than compensate for it.

[DJSimo]

Today tried adjusting dish but gave up after an hour, so I took the entire dish down, whilst it was on the ground I could see one side of the motor was set at 52 and 50 on the other so reset this so they were both the same, I also took dish off motor and remounted it making sure it was central.
Put it back up peaked signal on 1? West, checked all other sats and getting them all from 53? East to 45? West. :beer:

Thanks for everyones help:five:

[ramjet]

changed my motek motor to a darkmotor yesterday and added an inverto ultrablack twin lnb as well.

so the basic advice is correct

my pole was and still is 100% plumb using T-K brackets and a scaffold pole

I removed the td110 dish and laid it carefully on its back from the tiles to the ladders used as a prop

I removed the old motor , and put the darkmotor on the pole, using a clamp below it to keep it in position on the pole. the latitude was set and locked to my exact latitude

I then refitted the dish and changed the twin lnb , and used my spiderbox to send it to thor ensuring my usals was set correctly , and used the music channel to get the best signal both horizontally and vertically, locked the dish and motor up completely and checked all sats from 42e to 30w and everything was fine

so the moral of the story is set everything up correctly and it all falls into place with very little effort

[dennisone]

hopefully the fine tuning information I think I need will be in the download. Have got many satellites east and west but too low signals on some (both sides of arc) and end up loosing signals if I do the declination angle only. pole verticals have been checked many times so can only assume that the problem is in alignment of the dish.

[Nutsandbolts]

hopefully the fine tuning information I think I need will be in the download. Have got many satellites east and west but too low signals on some (both sides of arc) and end up loosing signals if I do the declination angle only. pole verticals have been checked many times so can only assume that the problem is in alignment of the dish.

Hi. If you get East and West satellites you are nearly there. The size of your dish may also affect the signal quality on some satellites/channels. In my experience in fitting motors 9 times out of 10 the problems are the dish angles. Do not adjust the motor tail/spigot but adjust slightly the gap between the back of the dish and motor tail ( i think they call this the azimuth angles). Also check LNB is set correctly. You can adjust it slightly left or right and see if signal quality improves. Also i would make some visible marks on the dish and non moving part of the motor in case you lose your setup. This may help you to re-align dish and motor. Also make sure for each satellites you have up to date TP's(frequencies). Hope this makes sense.

Regards.

[the goat]

gents help please, really finding this hard going, been trying to get my motorised dish setup all weekend

had it working before with my old dreambox500, upgraded to a VU+ duo now geeting probelm

got 90cm dish last night i got these readings

28E 93% AGC 74 % SNR
19E 93% AGC 83% SNR
13E 91% AGC 0 % SNR
4.8E 69% AGC 0% SNR
0.8W 69% AGC 0% SNR

if i had any hair i'd be pulling it out, i just can't get the SNR readings up
Pole is Plumb on T & K Brackets, (i will re-check the motor is the on same place both side,

should i move the dish up and down the motor shaft ?

[ramjet]

gents help please, really finding this hard going, been trying to get my motorised dish setup all weekend

had it working before with my old dreambox500, upgraded to a VU+ duo now geeting probelm

got 90cm dish last night i got these readings

28E 93% AGC 74 % SNR
19E 93% AGC 83% SNR
13E 91% AGC 0 % SNR
4.8E 69% AGC 0% SNR
0.8W 69% AGC 0% SNR

if i had any hair i'd be pulling it out, i just can't get the SNR readings up
Pole is Plumb on T & K Brackets, (i will re-check the motor is the on same place both side,

should i move the dish up and down the motor shaft ?

moving it in that manner wont help

first task is ensure you have the usals set correctly for your house location, and then check the motor elevation is set to your latitude and lock it there. the dish will be something like 25 to 28 degrees depending on your location (the motor booklet will tell you this)

so it appears you are missing sats the further you go away from 28e so triple check that pole is plumb just to be safe too

then if you are in the uk I would setup on bbc world news fta on 0.8w or you could try the sat at 5 west instead where the france channels are

once you get that 0.8w check another channel like the music channel so you check both V and H and then lock it up and start to check 30 west and 28.2 east to ensure you have the arc correctly with fine adjustments to the dish elevation and maybe the left or right on the pole itself (but not the motor elevation)

[the goat]

thanks for reply

i can just about go to 5W before dish hits house wall,so i only go to 0.8w
I'm going to try to get up and recheck the bracket and pole are plumb again tonight,
thats one thing i've not been doing is checking h & v channels/transponders at each satelitte
for my location, just sth of doncaster motor setting is 53, dish is 22.4

[ramjet]

thanks for reply

i can just about go to 5W before dish hits house wall,so i only go to 0.8w
I'm going to try to get up and recheck the bracket and pole are plumb again tonight,
thats one thing i've not been doing is checking h & v channels/transponders at each satelitte
for my location, just sth of doncaster motor setting is 53, dish is 22.4

so the problem here is you can only check half that arc, and you are checking it on strong sats like 19e and 28e so it still appears your arc is incorrect

my darkmotor superior table shows the dish at 27.4 for a latitude of 53 so 22.4 doesnt seem correct to me but maybe it is for your motor ?

I would try and set up on 0.8w or 5e or maybe 10e so that you are in the middle or so of the arc that you can "see"

there is 5e, 7e , 9e , 10e and 13e to set up on to try and get the true arc

depends on your channel list but I know pltv using biss is on 10e along with fta the TEST channel AND BARAEM on 11399H 07814 and Tandberg on 11624V 2500 that you could line up on , then check 28e and 39e and 42e to see if you get the arc

[the goat]

I've got a TM2600 diseqc motor with location 0.93 W 53. N
not got the book here, but from both the manual 53 for the motor, and dish 224, I will check cos now i question everything to do with this motorised dish

i've got a bouquet on reciever with FTA channels from various Satelittes (mostly BBC world News & God Channel)

[Manic01]

The elevation for dish in manuals is a guide only.
It's always hit and miss.
Just adjust once on strong signal for optimum performance.

[Nutsandbolts]

I've got a TM2600 diseqc motor with location 0.93 W 53. N
not got the book here, but from both the manual 53 for the motor, and dish 224, I will check cos now i question everything to do with this motorised dish

i've got a bouquet on reciever with FTA channels from various Satelittes (mostly BBC world News & God Channel)

Hi. Take it from me the TM2600 motors are pinpoint accuracy. You need to make sure that you get a satellite from the west and one from the east working properly then the others will follow by adjusting the dish angles. As mentioned before ignore the manual guide as they dont take into consideration local conditions, type of equipment used etc. Always use your hands and eyes to adjust the dish as you go along. Always use USALS as this will take you on or near the satellites after you have set it up correctly on the first satellite. It is important with USALS that you get the
first satellite right. The rest will follow with minor adjustments to dish angles NOT dish height. For the THOR 1 west satellite ignore BBC WORLD NEWS channel and set it up on channel BTV-1 11247V s/r 24500. This is a FTA test channel for THOR. BBC WORLD NEWS wil NOT give you all channels but BTV-1 will so long ay your TP's are up to date. Setting up a motor is very easy you just need a bit of patience and common sense.

Good luck
:bounce: :p :bounce: :beerglass:

[ramjet]

fair comments except he cannot access any western sats due to a wall at about 5 west so only gets half the arc to work with (east only) which means his arc can be way out and still get a couple of sats like he is doing now and he could vary this arc and pick up 2 or 3 different sats and still miss out on others

fair comment on btv but I would ADD that to the list to check, not dismiss any, better to check five channels than the one channel, but I believe he is better to aim for the centre of his available arc at 10 east or maybe even 13e or 16e so he can check both ways

[the goat]

thanks guys
at home now so will try again

still don't under stand getting good AGC 80% but no SNR
does AGC not indicate that there is a satelitte signal close
and SNR is the transponder signal its self

[Manic01]

SNR = Signal to Noise Ratio - which means signal quality
AGC = Automatic Gain Control - which means signal strength
Check the skew on your lnb as well.

[digicon]

thanks guys
at home now so will try again

still don't under stand getting good AGC 80% but no SNR
does AGC not indicate that there is a satelitte signal close
and SNR is the transponder signal its self


AGC = Automatic Gain Control in other words the power of the signal from each satellite, with the amount of satellites there are in the ARC when you sweep your dish along the ARC left or right it will nearly always give you an AGC reading as your hitting satellites as you pan so to speak.

SNR is your key here the higher it is the better, The Picture i uploaded will give you a better understanding what is happening on your setup and how important it is to track the ARC correctly

[the goat]

had 3 hours at this tonight and got no-where, feel like throwing it in bin

took dish/motor down and rechecked pole, plumb all round
made sure dish bracket was dead centre of moter arm
fixed motor to pole bracket at 53 latitude
dish fixed to 22.4 (triax 88)
put it all on pole and not getting any strong signals
using vix image on box and getting nothing to lock on to, but before i took it all down i could lock onto 28E but not pick up much

now with vu+ duo not attached to dish, if i go on sat finder in menu its giving a read of 20% SNR thats just mad the tuners are not connected to anything

[Manic01]

When you have motor locked to 53, leave dish around 25 degrees
Send dish to 1w or where ever you are using.
Move the motor around pole until good signal then adjust dish up/down and only then lock off the motor bolts and the dish bolts.
The dish is fixed tight to motor spigot centrally.
The actual motor is left hand tight on the bracket so you can move and tune just incase you were doing it differently.

[the goat]

thats exactly what i've been trying to do,
yesterday i had 0.8w and was fiddling about trying to get the rest, earlier today i had signals on 19, 28, but now nothing
its driving me mad
its an 30 min job at most, so far i've beenat it 3 days
not should if it my box now
starting not to trust anything
is there a better sat finder ipk to put in vu+duo vix image

[digicon]

thats exactly what i've been trying to do,
yesterday i had 0.8w and was fiddling about trying to get the rest, earlier today i had signals on 19, 28, but now nothing
its driving me mad
its an 30 min job at most, so far i've beenat it 3 days
not should if it my box now
starting not to trust anything
is there a better sat finder ipk to put in vu+duo vix image


If you happen to have an Android smartphone then this will do the job a treat, no more going back inside and checking or bringing out a portable TV.


http://www.dream-multimedia-tv.de/board/index.php?page=Thread&postID=106257

[the goat]

thanks, only got old phone
as i said above had vu+ duo inside not connected to satelitte , went on to sat finder and the SNR signal strength is running between 0-20% how?
so don't trust the vix image now
had openpli image on vu+dou that has big sat strength meter bars (like the dreambox 500 image), but could not find the bouqeuts & tv stuff easily
now i'm thinking what is wrong, lnb, tuners on vu+, cable,

[ramjet]

I use a tm1500 and a sat beeper myself, with a lead hanging down from the motor to the tm and a small portable tv, although I will use a spiderbox with the same setup this weekend to set up a dish and also a motor next week at a friends house

I too dont use smartphones or anything "techy" for this task, the tm1500 and sat beeper and tv are all I need

[the goat]

that's what i'm using other than vu+ duo
can't work out why its so hard too sort out,
i've had it working before, (was working for year, then i got this vu+, had it working for few months until i update box and that mucked up box so i had to reload image)
but it did take time to set up before i got it to work the first time

[leez]

its so hard to allign for sats without a proper meter. m8 .

not a great lover of them triax dishs either just have far to much play on the elevation . hate them .

get thor right and everything will fall into place .

asuming that your moving the whole motor and dish as one

when alligning for sats .

can u not get a hold of a meter off someone.close

[Manic01]

Always found Triax dishes good quality.

[leez]

Always found Triax dishes good quality.

everyone to their own m8 .. done a few and they aint bad perfomance wise.

divent like the grove design for the elevation .i find there is to much play whist alligning for elevation.

would have a gibby instead all day long .

everyone to there own .

[the goat]

i don't like that groove that the holding bracket fits in on the traix dish,got a cheap sat meter,
just think its me

i must be doing something wrong

[Manic01]

Yes mate must be.

[leez]

i don't like that groove that the holding bracket fits in on the traix dish,got a cheap sat meter,
just think its me

i must be doing something wrong

what type of meter have you got .

i use a horizon meter .updated regular . couldnt work without it.



im sure there is a guide on here the strongest tps

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f11/strongest-transponder-guide-7075/

may help you a bit ..


agree with another post tm 1500 can help you. use the strongest tp ..

best of luck

[Manic01]

Doubt he would use horizon if just doing his own dish.

[Manic01]

Use dishpointer.com to get a idea which way to point dish.

[the goat]

just got a wiz tech satellite finder just a cheap thing
its not like i have not done this stuff before
but everytime its been hard work to get it working
i've used this dish with 3 lnb's 28e 19e 13e
as i said above, set it up last year as motorised worked ok
but as i say it was not 20 min job, it took me days to get it right, and i just don't know why
on the triax dish there are numbers on both side i'm using the ones on the east side of the dish, i've not got a manal for dish so don't know why there are different numbers on each side of the dish
the motor bracket has lats on one side & elev on the other

[Manic01]

No idea why it's taking you so long.
As long as you get motor eleveation correct, it's not hard to sort dish elevation.
You need to make sure you are aimed at correct sat though.
Post your location maybe someone can help.

[Manic01]

Get ready for, try a blind scan reply from someone.

[maca]

try a stevie wonder scan :roflmao:

[Nutsandbolts]

just got a wiz tech satellite finder just a cheap thing
its not like i have not done this stuff before
but everytime its been hard work to get it working
i've used this dish with 3 lnb's 28e 19e 13e
as i said above, set it up last year as motorised worked ok
but as i say it was not 20 min job, it took me days to get it right, and i just don't know why
on the triax dish there are numbers on both side i'm using the ones on the east side of the dish, i've not got a manal for dish so don't know why there are different numbers on each side of the dish
the motor bracket has lats on one side & elev on the other

Hi. Is your LNB working/set up properly??. If your dish was getting 28/19/13 east then it should get them also with a motor. The numbers on the dish are for the tilt or azimuth setting. This is the setting that you need to concentrate on.
This setting gives the dish angles and you need to find the right setting for your setup. The motor bracket figures are based on your location setting ie for London it is around 51N so you set motor latitude to around 51. The elevation will automatically be set to 39, you cannot alter this. The two figures will always come to 90. If your location is 53 then settings will be 53 and 37. This is how a TM2600 works. I dont know why you are having so much trouble finding satellites . Like already mentioned try and get the first satellite and the others will follow with a bit of adjustments. If you were in London i would have gladly come to give you a hand- believe me it is very simple.

Regards.

[dick b]

triax dishes although well made are a pain when fine tuning the elevation put a bit of silicone grease in the grooves so it doesnt bind so much when trying to slide it, you say you have checked the mount is plumb check also that the dish is 100% central on the motor spigot then with your location lat/long set in the box drive the dish to 28.2East and then point the whole motor/dish assembly in the same diriction as your local sky dishes make sure you have an active TP set and if possible have an on screen meter visible.then start the elevation setting on the dish at say 26 degrees move the whole motor/dish assembly L/R slowly to get a signal,look for the slightest kick in the quality then stop and try adjusting the elevation. if unsuccessful drop the elevation by 1 degree at a time and you will get it in the end. for Technomate motors a theoretical reading for the elevation is 22.4 for your latitude but dish scales are not that accurate so you have to hunt for it.(by the way azimuth is the east to west movement not the elevation as someone has suggested)

[ramjet]

when I had my triax TD110 on a motek (technomate) motor it was about 22.5 degrees or so, which is what the booklet tells you, whereas on my new darkmotor its more like 27.5 degrees which again is what the book says, so do as dickb states above, especially as you were working at about 22 degrees before you started changing things around. I believe you use the markings on the eastern side of a triax for this

its also worth checking the sat box on a sly dish just to be sure that 28e is ok and as dickb suggests start there as you had it before

but I still think you need to be looking to get sats at about 10e and 13e and then start testing towards 0.8w and 39e or 42e as well. check as many fta channels as possible, both H and V , not just the odd one here and there

[the goat]

thanks for all replies, i know its easy, i can't think why i'm making it so hard, will try to givr it a go this afternoon if not raining
wondering about my LNB's they are all lemon type, may look to get new one

[dick b]

thanks for all replies, i know its easy, i can't think why i'm making it so hard, will try to givr it a go this afternoon if not raining
wondering about my LNB's they are all lemon type, may look to get new one

the lemon LNBs should still do the job ok.but if you do replace it its worth fitting a twin lnb as you can then use the spare outlet with a meter without disturbing the connection to the motor if it needs adjusting in the future.

[ramjet]

agreed, I use a new (2012) twin output inverto ultrablack lnb on my triax, bought from flebay

[the goat]

tried again last night, still no good
so i've taken it down and setting it up in backgarden at ground level i can get nearly full arc here
hopefully i can get it to work, and workout why i'm have probelms

[dick b]

tried again last night, still no good
so i've taken it down and setting it up in backgarden at ground level i can get nearly full arc here
hopefully i can get it to work, and workout why i'm have probelms

yeah if you have line of sight ok why not make it a proper install in the garden,to be honest I only put my dishes up within easy reach at no higher than step ladder height but I appreciate its not always possible.
forget the cheap sat finder and take the box into the garden with a portable tv so you can see easily whats happening and if poss set it up with a box you are familiar with then transfer the settings to your new box.
if you intend to put the dish back on house after setting up in the garden make sure the mounting pole in the garden is still 100% plumb as then the elevation will still hold good when you move the motor/dish back.I set up a fixed dish 4sat array like this and it made it so much easier standing on the ground to do all the fiddly alterations to the lnbs to get it just right.then it was just a matter of moving the dish L/R to find my target sat and the rest fell into place.

have a read of this guide I know its for old technomates but it may help

[dick b]

heres a list of strong TPs for a good range of sats all checked active today they may help in setting up.

[batman44]

I may be a bit late in this but here is a simple instruction on setting up a motorised system dish. This may help.

[the goat]

i manage to set it up on a pole in the garden, but the vu+duo (clone) could not pick up anything
used my old dreambox 500, and that set it up ok
maybe the software or tuners on my vu+ duo not good for tuning in, but work ok when dish is already setup
hope to try to get it on wall tomorrow or sunday, but will but will mark lines on motor and dish before i take them off the pole in the garden

just tested signal strength with "enigma 2 sat meter" the one that uses your pc connected to the vu+duo, got these readings
0.8W83%4.8E44%7E40%10E83%13E83%19E91%28E93%
need to get 4.8e up so i can watch the 3pm kickoffs

[the goat]

almost the end of this saga
after getting it setup in the backgarden to test it, i had to use the trusty dreambox 500 to get it set up
marked the position of dish, motor and brackets
i put it up on the pole at the side of my house, and it picked up most of the saelittes with pictures, except 4.8e
had the vu+duo, laptop (so i could check the sat strength via pc) and a tv in the garden with me
when i went back to try to get 4.8e by doing a bit of tweaking i lot everything on the vu+ duo, no pictures little signal strength
the long and short of it, is that my vu+duo with the image on it for some reason stops trying to tune in satelittes after a few minutes
if i switch it off and on again i get the few minutes to check the tuning again
no idea why it happens, just know thats whata going on

[ramjet]

one reason I still keep my old and trusty tm1500 as its a simple job to test satellites and scan channels and it works on freesat and 39e too

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

thats exactly what i've been trying to do,
yesterday i had 0.8w and was fiddling about trying to get the rest, earlier today i had signals on 19, 28, but now nothing
its driving me mad
its an 30 min job at most, so far i've beenat it 3 days
not should if it my box now
starting not to trust anything
is there a better sat finder ipk to put in vu+duo vix image

let me boast to you... patience is they key because it took us 16 days when we first did this 4 years ago .. lol