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digicon
29th May, 2012, 04:36 PM
I decided to post this due to the recent increase in posts about Scanning Satellite channels on Technomate Receivers and the obvious problems that can occur when Blind Scanning the full satellite ARC which is not a Good idea as you will almost certainly end up with duplicate Channels/Transponders which is not what you want in the first place.
Ok then first off the spreadsheet program that does all the hard work for you was created by jetsetw from Digital Worldz forum so all Credit for this work including Guides on how to use it belong solely to him.
Please read all the Guides enclosed written by the author of the program and you must have microsoft Excel for this spreadsheet to work.
Guide to Creating a Technomate Channel List from Scratch
For Technomate 5400 Super and 5402HD models with USALS. (May work with other series.)
Note: this guide and the attached spreadsheet are for creating a brand new channel list.
They will not help you modify an existing channel list.
Warning: always back up your own channel list before loading another one!
Many channel lists are available online, but the best list is always the one you make yourself.
This "Transponder Updater" spreadsheet will grab transponder details from the website of your
choice (Lyngsat, King of Sat, Flysat), for the satellites and beams you would like to scan. It then
saves an "empty" channel list to your PC with satellite and transponder information. (No channels
are stored at this stage.) This empty list can then be loaded into your receiver via USB stick, and
is ready for auto navigation to pull in the channels.
Features:
* You can enter your own satellite names and positions (up to 64).
* Choice of Lyngsat, King of Sat, or Flysat for acquiring transponders.
* You can specify exactly which beams from which to take transponders.
* Each website has its own columns for URLs and beams to scan, so you can switch from one to
another easily and compare results.
* Some good beams for the UK are already entered in the spreadsheet - easy to customise.
* A dummy transponder can be inserted for each satellite to prevent the Technomate from
scanning too early when auto-navigating. This ensures the dish has moved away from the
previous satellite before scanning the next one, thus preventing incorrect channel info on the
first transponder.
* After the spreadsheet has finished (could take a minute or two) you can see exactly which
transponders have been saved to the new list.
Full instructions in spreadsheet. Tested on Technomate 5400 Super and 5402 HD receivers.
Jetset
Couple of tips on using the spreadsheet:
1) If you want to see what the various beams are called from a particular satellite, an easier way than
visiting the Lyngsat/KoS/Flysat website is to type "all" in the beams column. After running the macro,
you'll see precisely what all beams are called; the names are often a very good indication of whether
they're worth including! For the less obvious beams, see Lyngsat and Flysat for links to footprints.
2) If you do insert the dummy TPs (*), they can be removed later using Clark Tech Editor Studio.
The latest version is 3.17, and it is great for tidying up channel lists generally. Although it claims
lists from the 5402HD are "5000-HDS format", I don't believe this is quite the case, and would save
them as "Clark Tech Plus" format for both 5400 Super and 5402HD receivers.
Jetset
Guide to Creating a Technomate Channel List from Scratch
For Technomate 5400 Super and 5402HD models with USALS.
(May work with other TM series, or with Clarke Tech clones.)
Note: this guide and the attached spreadsheet are for creating a brand new channel list.
They will not help you modify an existing channel list.
Warning: always back up your own channel list before loading another one!
Many channel lists are available online, but the best list is always the one you make yourself.
This "Transponder Updater" spreadsheet will grab transponder details from the website of your
choice (Lyngsat, King of Sat, Flysat), for the satellites and beams you would like to scan. It then
saves an "empty" channel list to your PC with satellite and transponder information. (No channels
are stored at this stage.) This empty list can then be loaded into your receiver via USB stick, and
is ready for auto navigation to pull in the channels.
Features:
* You can enter your own satellite names and positions (up to 64).
* Choice of Lyngsat, King of Sat, or Flysat for acquiring transponders.
* You can specify exactly the beams from which to take transponders.
* Each website has its own columns for URLs and beams to scan, so you can switch from one to
another easily and compare results.
* Some good beams for the UK are already entered in the spreadsheet - easy to customise.
* A dummy transponder can be inserted for each satellite to prevent the Technomate from
scanning too early when auto-navigating. This ensures the dish has moved away from the
previous satellite before scanning the next one, thus preventing incorrect channel info on the
first transponder.
* After the spreadsheet has finished (could take a minute or two) you can see exactly which
transponders have been saved to the new list.
Full instructions in spreadsheet. Tested on Technomate 5400 Super and 5402 HD receivers.
If the attached "rar" file does not open, try changing extension to "zip".
A couple of tips on using the spreadsheet:
1) If you want to see what the various beams are called from a particular satellite, an easier way than
visiting the Lyngsat/KoS/Flysat website is to type "all" in the beams column. After running the macro,
you'll see precisely what all beams are called; the names are often a very good indication of whether
they're worth including! For the less obvious beams, see Lyngsat and Flysat for links to footprints.
2) If you do insert the dummy TPs (*), they can be removed later using Clark Tech Editor Studio.
The latest version is 3.17, and it is great for tidying up channel lists generally. Although it claims
lists from the 5402HD are "5000-HDS format", I don't believe this is quite the case, and would save
them as "Clark Tech Plus" format for both 5400 Super and 5402HD receivers.
* recommended - before I added this option, my receiver would start scanning Astra 19 again while
the dish was on the move between 19E and 23.5E...
Best wishes for 2012,
Jetset
I'll talk you through an example. Suppose you want 30W and 4W in addition to the ones I've selected, but don't want 4.8E.
1) Choose "Lyngsat" from the website options box.
2) Click on the "Satellites" tab.
3) Type "yes" in cell D6. This means that Hispasat (30W) will be used.
The Lyngsat beams go in cell G6 for this satellite, but you don't need to type in anything here as I've already entered *Europe*,
which is the name Lyngsat uses for the European beams. Note that the * signs are needed around the beam names.
4) Type "yes" in cell D17. This means that Amos (4W) will be used.
5) Notice that cell G17 is blank. This is because I don't know which beams are any good on this satellite - my dish is too small.
You'll need to type something in cell G17. You could type "All" to get every single beam available, or you could look up the
beam names on Lyngsat and type the ones you want e.g. *Europe*Europe V* will pick up the "Europe" and "Europe V" beams,
while ignoring everything else, such as "Middle East" which is almost certainly impossible to get in the UK.
(Look at this webpage to see where the beam names are found: Amos 2/3 at 4.0?W - LyngSat)
6) Type "no" in cell D20. This means that the Astra 4A (4.8E) satellite will not be looked up later when the macro is run.
The beam names in cell G20 are now irrelevant and will be ignored, because you've said "no" to this satellite.
7) Go back to the "Options and Instructions" tab and click the Go! button to run the macro.
If at a later stage you want to get transponders that are used for feeds as well, you'll need to type "yes" in column F next to the
relevant satellites, and re-run the macro.
If you want a satellite that is not mentioned in my spreadsheet, you can simply type in the name, position etc. underneath in a
spare row. I would reorder the rows afterwards so that the satellites are in order across the arc for convenience.
Does this make a bit more sense?
Jetset
Just to add i have personally tested the output TP.ndf file on a TM5402HD, Blade 7000 & DR.HD F15
happy_highlander
29th May, 2012, 06:43 PM
Can I just add to this post that for fixed dish single sat channel lists. Clarke tech studio editor will download a full channel list for the sat of your choice i.e. 28.2 by choosing input from web. List is from king of sats and you can then edit the list and favourites to your liking and stick them on a usb. Job done and very simple to use.
idrisdragon
10th June, 2012, 08:02 PM
thanks for this I will try to give it a go,
We recently lost all out settings after a holiday. Please can you advise the settings on Technomate to run a blind scan, should this not work for us.
Nutsandbolts
12th June, 2012, 03:33 PM
thanks for this I will try to give it a go,
We recently lost all out settings after a holiday. Please can you advise the settings on Technomate to run a blind scan, should this not work for us.
Hi. To do blind scan on a TM5400 and similar do the following:
a) Make sure you are on correct satelllite ie HOTBIRD .Check signal for satellite is strong.
b) Delete all current TP's for Hotbird. This will get rid of out of date TP's as well as valid ones.
c) Then enter MENU - INSTALLATION - BLIND SEARCH. From satellite list select correct satellite you are on ie HOTBIRD . Press enter to select HOTBIRD . Leave defaults for TP, SR, POL, and MODE as they are. Move cursor to PRESS OK option and press OK to start scan.
d) On the following screen it should say TP SEARCHING in left corner along with the satellite name ie HOTBIRD. As it is scanning you will see the TP's coming up. It will scan for vertical TP's first and horizontal TP's second. When all available TP's have been found it will scan the channels in. You should see a list of channels being tuned in. You should now have an updated TP/channel list.
e) When completed you can then edit the channels to your liking.
Hope this makes sense.
Regards.
:jiggin: :cheers::jiggin:
digicon
12th June, 2012, 04:58 PM
Hi. To do blind scan on a TM5400 and similar do the following:
a) Make sure you are on correct satelllite ie HOTBIRD .Check signal for satellite is strong.
b) Delete all current TP's for Hotbird. This will get rid of out of date TP's as well as valid ones.
c) Then enter MENU - INSTALLATION - BLIND SEARCH. From satellite list select correct satellite you are on ie HOTBIRD . Press enter to select HOTBIRD . Leave defaults for TP, SR, POL, and MODE as they are. Move cursor to PRESS OK option and press OK to start scan.
d) On the following screen it should say TP SEARCHING in left corner along with the satellite name ie HOTBIRD. As it is scanning you will see the TP's coming up. It will scan for vertical TP's first and horizontal TP's second. When all available TP's have been found it will scan the channels in. You should see a list of channels being tuned in. You should now have an updated TP/channel list.
e) When completed you can then edit the channels to your liking.
Hope this makes sense.
Regards.
:jiggin: :cheers::jiggin:
This program was written by the author to negate the use of blindscan as it is not needed.
Nutsandbolts
13th June, 2012, 07:48 AM
This program was written by the author to negate the use of blindscan as it is not needed.
Hi. If you read the post correctly the member wanted to know how to do a blind scan in case program dont work.
Take care.:jiggin:
badman56
7th August, 2012, 01:21 AM
thank you for this
can i ask a few questions - i (think) i have successfully created the list and understand that these are just transponders
i plan to try this on a 5420hd but wonder will it give the same "insufficent tp memory" problem at some stage again?
"EDIT" I think ive answered this - in the Data it creates it gives a list of 801 - would i be right in thinking that is the total number of transponders? if so my TM5420 gives the "insufficient tp memory" and i have 2345 tps so i am just wondering why this newly created list of tps is much smaller?
digicon
7th August, 2012, 10:48 AM
If you typed 'ALL' in each individual satellite then the program will scan all TP's for all beams on that particular satellite, When i do mine i check with one of the sites to see which beams i can pick up and change it on the spreadsheet accordingly.
I also only scan TV Only channels in as i know the memory is only 10,000 so i skip Radio completely, Last one i did brought me just over 9300 TV channels from 57? east to 45? west.
Everyones will be different due to dish size used and what satellites are scanned.
badman56
7th August, 2012, 11:48 AM
thanks for this - in the end i spent a few hours with clarke tech plus and used the list of satellites that were already named on the box then imported from the Web (king of sat) an updated list for each satellite
took a minute but transferred well to the 5420 (after deleting a lot of unwanted channels to reach the 10000 limit) the only thing i had to do then was enable each satellite in the menu on the 5420 but ive now got a lot more than i had and no insufficient tp memory issues
badman56
8th August, 2012, 08:26 AM
could this method be used to feed hunt? im currently just learning about another side to all this which isnt just finding TV channels but those daily feeds that pop up - seems interesting but im not sure how to do it with the tm5420 blind scan so thinking possibly this spreadsheet could provide a way of doing it assuming i backed up my current channel list and deleted it form the 5420 first/restored it after a search about ?
in fact id assumed that i would be able to use this 5420 like you would a radio scanner and have all your active channels stored but easily search the bands for more but at the moment given the limits im not sure thats possible?
digicon
8th August, 2012, 10:11 AM
could this method be used to feed hunt? im currently just learning about another side to all this which isnt just finding TV channels but those daily feeds that pop up - seems interesting but im not sure how to do it with the tm5420 blind scan so thinking possibly this spreadsheet could provide a way of doing it assuming i backed up my current channel list and deleted it form the 5420 first/restored it after a search about ?
in fact id assumed that i would be able to use this 5420 like you would a radio scanner and have all your active channels stored but easily search the bands for more but at the moment given the limits im not sure thats possible?
This is a great source for Live feeds if your ever interested in seeing whats on a daily basis.
http://www.satelliweb.com/index.php?section=livef&langue=en
Manic01
8th August, 2012, 10:29 AM
Another good one.
http://www.sat-benelux.nl
badman56
8th August, 2012, 08:08 PM
nice one ill check out these sites tonight - I was on that one last night digicon having a read through and trying to figure out how i could scan to find feeds
would the best way of scanning for feeds on the 5420 be to blind scan for TV free to air only ? i did some more reading and everyone seems to say thats what blind scan is made for (feed hunting) but on the other hand many are saying the blind scan on the 5420 doesnt work properly
badman56
9th August, 2012, 12:53 AM
ive run the full scan with this excel program - but cant work out where the ndf file is? ive saved it but as a excel file with a diff name? i cant see in the instructions where the ndf file is located or saved?
EDIT - found it in C:/Channels
digicon
9th August, 2012, 01:16 AM
As your probably aware as well by now as it relates to your post on the 'Feeds' then you can tick each sat to search for known feeds on each satellite if you so wish.
badman56
9th August, 2012, 01:21 AM
yeh did that clicked on yes for all feeds - im gnna try using this tp ndf on the box in a while once mrs' films over and running the auto navigation hopefully its just what ive been asking for to find feeds too and shouldnt throw up any tp memory probs
badman56
9th August, 2012, 01:30 AM
do you forsee any problems if ive clicked yes to Scan on all sats, all feeds and put All in the other column? obviously i wanted a comprehensive scan but taking into account what you told me about my other list im now thinking that i may have overdone it and should have left the last column as i found it?
digicon
9th August, 2012, 01:30 AM
yeh did that clicked on yes for all feeds - im gnna try using this tp ndf on the box in a while once mrs' films over and running the auto navigation hopefully its just what ive been asking for to find feeds too and shouldnt throw up any tp memory probs
I have no idea what your ARC coverage is like but on your previous list you had Sats up to 75? east which is well below the UK horizon, i have only seen a few people who managed 68.5? east and they had the lay of the land sloping and where in high rise tower blocks.
Most ARC's are around say 57? east to around 45? west for Ku, its also dependant on dish size as well, as i stated in a previous post i pulled in around 9300 TV Channels alone without any feeds from the above ARC i mentioned thats on a 1.25m Gibertini so be careful what you scan for because half way through you could end up with another memory full situation.
badman56
9th August, 2012, 01:42 AM
got you - as id said i only searched Kos satellites that the person who installed the system's channel list had listed and had worked - he did say that due to a lack of noise (rural area), trees and position that i did have access to a really impressive Arc with a few quite difficult sats
i'll have a play with jETSET's method and alter my scans should it cause the dreaded tp/channel full message - more likely to be a channel full list id say as the jetset file is showing 1642 tps and my default chnl list (left by the installer) has something like 2456 tps on it
if it does cause a problem its not the end of the world is it ive still got a backup of my original chnl list
out of interest is there any way on the tm5420 to just scan then add new channels without replacing all the current ones or worse still duplicating them all ? i think the answer will be no and thats why jetsets method exists but thought id ask in case im missing the obvious with auto nav, advanced search and blind scan
yubious
15th August, 2012, 11:17 AM
i already have my channel list sorted, is there a way of getting the transponders for a satellite from kingofsat into my current channel list? to save me either having to do a blind scan or lose my current channel lists?
digicon
16th August, 2012, 12:37 AM
i already have my channel list sorted, is there a way of getting the transponders for a satellite from kingofsat into my current channel list? to save me either having to do a blind scan or lose my current channel lists?
You would be better using Clark Tech Studio editor for what you are asking
yubious
16th August, 2012, 11:54 AM
You would be better using Clark Tech Studio editor for what you are asking
thats the software i have but cant see anyway of loading transponders from a website??
digicon
16th August, 2012, 12:09 PM
In clarke tech editor do the following
Click Options - Settings and tick the Direct connection under the Internet tab.
Then goto File - import choose web and then press import, this will then ask which satellites you want importing and either TVkos,Bouquetkos etc...
Regards
Hg80
7th September, 2012, 06:51 PM
Does "jetsetw"'s excel spreadsheet work using Libreoffice (or Openoffice)? I am new to this website so I cannot yet verify this myself.
digicon
7th September, 2012, 07:57 PM
Does "jetsetw"'s excel spreadsheet work using Libreoffice (or Openoffice)? I am new to this website so I cannot yet verify this myself.
Only one way to find out give it a try
Hg80
10th September, 2012, 02:02 PM
Only one way to find out give it a try
Sound advice. OK so the spreadsheet loads but surprise surprise the macro does not function. I plan on investigating but cannot provide a work schedule.
spike877
8th October, 2012, 08:20 PM
Great Guide, thanks for the info.
prcave
10th November, 2012, 07:47 AM
Exactly what I've been looking for :) many thanks
digicon
19th November, 2012, 02:53 AM
Latest Version thanks again to Jetsetw for creating this all credit where its due
Updated spreadsheet attached here - version 2.2.2
This is a minor update: some tweaked satellite names, a couple of empty satellites removed,
and all URLs & beams corrected for Lyngsat, King of Sat, and Flysat. I did not need to make
any changes to the actual VBA code - the websites still store TP information in the same way.
This spreadsheet is only useful if you are a new Technomate owner, or if you like to keep
your channel list up to date every once in a while. For full details, please read post 15.
(I suspect it will become increasingly redundant now that there is a new editor out by the
TechSat team!)
Back up your own channel list before loading the list produced by this macro.
Jetset
jetsetw
19th November, 2012, 11:31 PM
Thanks for your kind words, digicon. I've only just discovered the spreadsheet has migrated here to the DK forum :-)
v2.2.2 is indeed the latest version. I'm happy to answer any questions about it here, although post 1 should explain just about everything.
Warning: never load anyone else's channel list into your receiver without first making a backup copy of your current list.
Jetset
podgey3874
14th February, 2013, 11:45 AM
Can I just add to this post that for fixed dish single sat channel lists. Clarke tech studio editor will download a full channel list for the sat of your choice i.e. 28.2 by choosing input from web. List is from king of sats and you can then edit the list and favourites to your liking and stick them on a usb. Job done and very simple to use.
hi highlander i have tried this way bye firstly adding 28.2 then 19.2 and both was added to the list useing clake tech was wondering if i could do this for all sats on my motorised dish and am guessing due to importing list from web list is up to date as it can be?
i tested and uploaded to stb then i add to go to instilation.satelite setup select astra19.2 save it then checked motorised settings see if usals was selected all seems to be working fine
digicon
14th February, 2013, 02:30 PM
hi highlander i have tried this way bye firstly adding 28.2 then 19.2 and both was added to the list useing clake tech was wondering if i could do this for all sats on my motorised dish and am guessing due to importing list from web list is up to date as it can be?
i tested and uploaded to stb then i add to go to instilation.satelite setup select astra19.2 save it then checked motorised settings see if usals was selected all seems to be working fine
Mate if your going to start banding this software about on other forums at least give Credit to the original author 'jetsetw'
podgey3874
14th February, 2013, 04:20 PM
Mate if your going to start banding this software about on other forums at least give Credit to the original author 'jetsetw'
sorry mate i will edit and give credit were its due sorry for that mate and jetsetw
podgey3874
14th February, 2013, 10:17 PM
what beams are impossiable to get around the arc on a 1metre motorised in wakefield reason why i ask is i am trying ot edit your spreadsheet for my needs
for example i no i can only get badr4 but what would i need to put in coloum only to get that beam scanned
jetsetw
15th February, 2013, 12:17 AM
The explanation below is for the default website, Lyngsat. If you are using KoS or Flysat, it is easy enough
to change the URL and beam names accordingly.
You'll see in the spreadsheet at 26E that the URL is "Badr-4.html". This means that only beams from the
Badr-4 satellite will be looked up. If you had an enormous dish and thought you could also pick up channels
from Badr-5 or 6, you could change the URL to "Badr-4-5-6.html".
As for which beams on Badr-4 are possible, the easiest way to find out is as follows:
1) Type "All" in the beams column for 26E and run the macro. The spreadsheet will then pick up every beam
available from the website. (If you look on Lyngsat, you'll see that the beams are called MBC, BSS and FSS.)
2) Remember to back up your own channel list!
Copy the resulting "TPs.ndf" file from your PC to a USB stick, and load into your Technomate.
3) Scan Badr-4 on your Technomate, and make a note of which TPs have actually picked up channels.
4) Go to the Lyngsat website and check the names of the beams corresponding to the aforementioned TPs.
5) If, for example, you find that all those TPs are from the MBC and BSS beams, and that none of the TPs
on the FSS beam gave you any channels, then you can safely change the 26E beam column of the spreadsheet
to *MBC*BSS* (or Not *FSS* if you prefer). Next time you run the macro, only those beams will be used for
TPs, saving you a lot of time when you next scan for channels on your Technomate.
(What really slows down the scanning is having a list of hundreds of TPs that have no chance of being picked
up. The Technomate will spend 10 seconds or so on each one in vain before moving on. By only using suitable
beams in the spreadsheet, you miss out all the unavailable TPs from your channel list.)
The reason that I haven't already filled in the beams column of 26E is that I can't pick up anything at all on
my 60cm dish! I've only entered what works for me from 30W to 42E.
Hope this makes sense; give a shout otherwise.
Jetset
podgey3874
16th February, 2013, 09:40 PM
The explanation below is for the default website, Lyngsat. If you are using KoS or Flysat, it is easy enough
to change the URL and beam names accordingly.
You'll see in the spreadsheet at 26E that the URL is "Badr-4.html". This means that only beams from the
Badr-4 satellite will be looked up. If you had an enormous dish and thought you could also pick up channels
from Badr-5 or 6, you could change the URL to "Badr-4-5-6.html".
As for which beams on Badr-4 are possible, the easiest way to find out is as follows:
1) Type "All" in the beams column for 26E and run the macro. The spreadsheet will then pick up every beam
available from the website. (If you look on Lyngsat, you'll see that the beams are called MBC, BSS and FSS.)
2) Remember to back up your own channel list!
Copy the resulting "TPs.ndf" file from your PC to a USB stick, and load into your Technomate.
3) Scan Badr-4 on your Technomate, and make a note of which TPs have actually picked up channels.
4) Go to the Lyngsat website and check the names of the beams corresponding to the aforementioned TPs.
5) If, for example, you find that all those TPs are from the MBC and BSS beams, and that none of the TPs
on the FSS beam gave you any channels, then you can safely change the 26E beam column of the spreadsheet
to *MBC*BSS* (or Not *FSS* if you prefer). Next time you run the macro, only those beams will be used for
TPs, saving you a lot of time when you next scan for channels on your Technomate.
(What really slows down the scanning is having a list of hundreds of TPs that have no chance of being picked
up. The Technomate will spend 10 seconds or so on each one in vain before moving on. By only using suitable
beams in the spreadsheet, you miss out all the unavailable TPs from your channel list.)
The reason that I haven't already filled in the beams column of 26E is that I can't pick up anything at all on
my 60cm dish! I've only entered what works for me from 30W to 42E.
Hope this makes sense; give a shout otherwise.
Jetset
Please see pm
digicon
21st July, 2013, 09:54 PM
**Update** 2.2.4
I have tweaked the TP updater Excel spreadsheet with the following:
46? east Azerspace 1 Satellite *added*
34.5? West Intelsat 903 Satellite *added for Feeds*
52.5? east Yahsat *Removed Footprint Changed*
Updated all URL's from Lyngsat, King of sat & Flysat all Footprint beams have been added and updated
All Credit to the Original Author of the Spreadsheet jetsetw Thanks
Regards
digicon
2nd April, 2014, 01:12 AM
**Update 2.5**
Done a little update with a few new Satellites added
20.0? west added for Feeds and the odd Channel Pops up there now and again
30.5? east Arabsat 5A you may need something like a TD110 or larger for this satellite
31.5? east Astra 1G Few Channels and the odd Feed
47.5? east Intelsat 10 Again Few Feeds on here
55.0? east Yamal 402 A few Channels on here
Checked and updated all URL's from the 3 main sites, All Credit for the Original Spreadsheet by JetsetW (Great bit of work)
This will create a Blank CNDF file with all the latest Transponders added all you have to do is scan
Compatible with the Usual TM5402,TM F3/5,TM6902,TM7102 etc.. Blade 7000s, Dr HD series of receivers
Regards
welldigger99
25th May, 2014, 11:12 AM
Hi All,
Looking at using this excellent spreadsheet (thanks to jetsetw!!) for updating my TP's on a TM5400 (not HD). Spreadsheet links to Lyngsat etc and updates without problem. I am at a loss however, as to how I create the right file type (NDF?). Clearly, the box will not recognise an xls spreadsheet. I am sure I am missing something obvious, but any guidance would be appreciated!
Many thanks,
Welldigger99
digicon
25th May, 2014, 11:50 AM
The Guide for this Program is on Page 1 first post, the xls is the spreadsheet that creates a Blank CNDF list that you insert into your receiver and then scan for the appropriate channels
welldigger99
25th May, 2014, 07:54 PM
Thanks digicon. Understood. I
jetsetw
30th June, 2014, 03:57 PM
Minor update: satellite, URLs and beams updated. Detailed info below to save trawling through
the whole thread.
Guide to Creating a Technomate Channel List from Scratch
For Technomate 5400 Super and 5402HD models with USALS.
(May work with other TM series, or with Clarke Tech clones.)
Note: this guide and the attached spreadsheet are for creating a brand new channel list.
They will not help you modify an existing channel list.
Warning: always back up your own channel list before loading another one!
Many channel lists are available online, but the best list is always the one you make yourself.
This "Transponder Updater" spreadsheet will grab transponder details from the website of your
choice (Lyngsat, King of Sat, Flysat), for the satellites and beams you would like to scan. It then
saves an "empty" channel list to your PC with satellite and transponder information. (No channels
are stored at this stage.) This empty list can then be loaded into your receiver via USB stick, and
is ready for auto navigation to pull in the channels.
Features:
* You can enter your own satellite names and positions (up to 64).
* Choice of Lyngsat, King of Sat, or Flysat for acquiring transponders.
* You can specify exactly the beams from which to take transponders.
* Option to include, ignore, or only scan for feeds.
* Each website has its own columns for URLs and beams to scan, so you can switch from one to
another easily and compare results.
* Some good beams for the UK are already entered in the spreadsheet - easy to customise.
* A dummy transponder can be inserted for each satellite to prevent the Technomate from
scanning too early when auto-navigating. This ensures the dish has moved away from the
previous satellite before scanning the next one, thus preventing incorrect channel info on the
first transponder.
* After the spreadsheet has finished (could take a minute or two) you can see exactly which
transponders have been saved to the new list.
Full instructions in spreadsheet. Tested on Technomate 5400 Super and 5402 HD receivers.
A couple of tips on using the spreadsheet:
1) If you want to see what the various beams are called from a particular satellite, an easier way
than visiting the Lyngsat/KoS/Flysat website is to type "all" in the beams column. After running
the macro, you'll see precisely what all beams are called; the names are often a very good
indication of whether they're worth including! For the less obvious beams, see Lyngsat and Flysat
for links to footprints.
2) I would recommend that you do insert dummy TPs. Before I added this option, my receiver
would start scanning Astra 19 again while the dish was on the move between 19E and 23.5E...
If you do insert dummy TPs, they can be removed later using Clark Tech Editor Studio. The latest
version is 3.20, and it is great for tidying up channel lists generally. Although it claims lists from
the 5402HD are "5000-HDS format", I don't believe this is quite the case, and would save them
as "Clark Tech Plus" format for both 5400 Super and 5402HD receivers.
Jetset
HunHam
26th August, 2018, 12:58 PM
For any reason I am not allowed to download it. This is exactly what could help me out, looks great I want to try it..
zeze04
27th February, 2021, 01:44 PM
Minor update: satellite, URLs and beams updated. Detailed info below to save trawling through
the whole thread.
Guide to Creating a Technomate Channel List from Scratch
For Technomate 5400 Super and 5402HD models with USALS.
(May work with other TM series, or with Clarke Tech clones.)
Note: this guide and the attached spreadsheet are for creating a brand new channel list.
They will not help you modify an existing channel list.
Warning: always back up your own channel list before loading another one!
Many channel lists are available online, but the best list is always the one you make yourself.
This "Transponder Updater" spreadsheet will grab transponder details from the website of your
choice (Lyngsat, King of Sat, Flysat), for the satellites and beams you would like to scan. It then
saves an "empty" channel list to your PC with satellite and transponder information. (No channels
are stored at this stage.) This empty list can then be loaded into your receiver via USB stick, and
is ready for auto navigation to pull in the channels.
Features:
* You can enter your own satellite names and positions (up to 64).
* Choice of Lyngsat, King of Sat, or Flysat for acquiring transponders.
* You can specify exactly the beams from which to take transponders.
* Option to include, ignore, or only scan for feeds.
* Each website has its own columns for URLs and beams to scan, so you can switch from one to
another easily and compare results.
* Some good beams for the UK are already entered in the spreadsheet - easy to customise.
* A dummy transponder can be inserted for each satellite to prevent the Technomate from
scanning too early when auto-navigating. This ensures the dish has moved away from the
previous satellite before scanning the next one, thus preventing incorrect channel info on the
first transponder.
* After the spreadsheet has finished (could take a minute or two) you can see exactly which
transponders have been saved to the new list.
Full instructions in spreadsheet. Tested on Technomate 5400 Super and 5402 HD receivers.
A couple of tips on using the spreadsheet:
1) If you want to see what the various beams are called from a particular satellite, an easier way
than visiting the Lyngsat/KoS/Flysat website is to type "all" in the beams column. After running
the macro, you'll see precisely what all beams are called; the names are often a very good
indication of whether they're worth including! For the less obvious beams, see Lyngsat and Flysat
for links to footprints.
2) I would recommend that you do insert dummy TPs. Before I added this option, my receiver
would start scanning Astra 19 again while the dish was on the move between 19E and 23.5E...
If you do insert dummy TPs, they can be removed later using Clark Tech Editor Studio. The latest
version is 3.20, and it is great for tidying up channel lists generally. Although it claims lists from
the 5402HD are "5000-HDS format", I don't believe this is quite the case, and would save them
as "Clark Tech Plus" format for both 5400 Super and 5402HD receivers.
Jetset
Hello.
I am interested in the program but I cannot download it. I have a Clarke tech receiver for which I was using a small "NDF Edit" program to update the TPs using kingofsat or lyngsat, and it no longer works and I am looking for a solution. Thank you.
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