Suzuki Swift 2008 speed signal

[znoki]

Hi all,

I've go a Suzuki Swift 1.3 ddis (diesel) from 2008.
It doesn't show the speed and doesn't count km's on the cluster.
I checked ECM and BCM live data, but the speed is zero. (the cluster is not diagnosable)
I didn't find any Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) on the gearbox, but I found a genuine cap. :-) So I think this car get speed info from the ABS.
I changed the ABS, tried to recode by Tech2 in the ECM, but still no speed signal.

Has somebody wiring diagram, or any idea, what should I check?

[batandball]

what tool you using to read data

[znoki]

what tool you using to read data
Bosch KTS, Hanatech Ultrascan, Tech2

[czester1]

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[znoki]

Thanks Czester!
I will do a driving test tomorrow and report.

[znoki]

:( I did a test drive as wrote in the description. Fuel cut is working, but still no fault code!
The ABS has two CAN line (2 times 2 wires)
ABS = > Instrument Cluster
ABS = > ECM (Diesel Engine Control Unit)

Any new idea, or correct wiring diagram?


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[czester1]

suzuki swift client provided with the lack of speed, version 09 years (ABS, engine 1.3 MJD, CLIMA, EPS). The problem has been fixed, it was a faulty program in ECU EEprom 1.3 MMarelli ;)

Click THANKS if I helped.:bird:

[znoki]

Ok, so what should I do? Read the ECU eeprom and post it? Can you repair it?
Or do a software update? Is it possible?

[czester1]

Read eeprom, try to help

[znoki]

Read eeprom, try to help

OK, I will read and post it, but I need a few weeks to get back the car.

[cjawahir]

scan the abs , also look in live data with vehicle driving look at all four wheels data .

cj

[znoki]

scan the abs , also look in live data with vehicle driving look at all four wheels data .

cj

All four wheels data are good, working perfectly, count the speed in Km/h.

[cjawahir]

some one adjust the cluster odo and damage the software ?

cj

[znoki]

some one adjust the cluster odo and damage the software ?
cj

I don't think so, because the ECU "can't see" the vehicle speed, in life data: 0 km/h, but the fuel cut off function is working.

[cjawahir]

I don't think so, because the ECU "can't see" the vehicle speed, in life data: 0 km/h, but the fuel cut off function is working.


its possible that the cluster is like a gateway module , need to go there first then the engine gets it from the can line .

cj

[znoki]

its possible that the cluster is like a gateway module , need to go there first then the engine gets it from the can line .
cj

It's not possible, ABS has two times two CAN lines:
ABS = > Instrument Cluster
ABS = > ECM (Diesel Engine Control Unit)
(I wrote it in my #6th comment)
Both are checked by oscilloscope, looks good.
But if you have a really good idea, I assure you to push the "THANKS" button. :)

[cjawahir]

my friend , you should push the thanks no matter my answer is good on not to your taste , you should explore changing the cluster ,

this is my last post on this tread , for your very distasteful remarks.

cj

[znoki]

my friend , you should push the thanks no matter my answer is good on not to your taste , you should explore changing the cluster ,
this is my last post on this tread , for your very distasteful remarks.
cj

It was just a joke Mate! Please do not misunderstand!
I always happy, if somebody helps me. Thanks!

[crashman]

It was just a joke Mate! Please do not misunderstand!
I always happy, if somebody helps me. Thanks!
Hello!

Did you solve your problem?
I have similar.

[znoki]

Hello!

Did you solve your problem?
I have similar.

Hi crashman,
Unfortunately I didn't solve the problem and I've no more chance to try, cause the customer sold the car.
But if you find something, I'm really interested in.
Cheers!

[czester1]

Hello, a fault in the engine ECU.Damaged soft in EEPROM
Frame data speed of the ABS is received by the
ECU engine, processed and sent to the meter.

If you want me to fix the file, write a private message to me.

>>>> Push the Thanks + Reputation <<<<

[lmsvvavr]

Hi everyone!
A bit of help would be really appreciated!
I have this car, Suzuki Swift M13A, 2007, the gearbox has been replaced with one from a 2009.
All the same, except that the gearbox, despite the fact that came with a blank plate in the place of the speed sensor, the reluctor ring inside is not there.
So fitting a sensor will not work...
I checked all the wiring integrity, and everything is ok, was working before anyway...
So, I presume, that these cars, can either have the speed sensor on the gearbox, or the engine ecu can take the speed from the ABS and then send it to the cluster... as czester1 said just above...
On live data I can read the speed on the ABS module...
Now, I doubt that SDT will modify these, and I don't really want to be opening the ecu to dump the eeprom, unless I am sure it can be done...
So, the question, after all above, is, can someone help me out modifying the eeprom data, so the ecu takes the speed from the abs rather than from the speed sensor?
Thanks in advance!

[czester1]

Help for 9a6rmi (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=2575761)
Pass: pm

[Meat-Head]

Off topic

has a think toyoyta simular, the deiveshaft needed magntising

ON TOOIC:-

any wires trapped or lefft off

[lmsvvavr]

Off topic

has a think toyoyta simular, the deiveshaft needed magntising

ON TOOIC:-

any wires trapped or lefft off

I thought about something like that... but the car was not mine, and I know the owner wouldn't be willing to pay for that sort of stuff... which could become quite time consuming...
I jumped the ABS signal into it... and managed to get the car to 200 kph on driveway! Loooooool
Too late now anyway... car is gone...
I put a camera on the sensor hole, there is no "reluctor" ring inside the box...
Thank you for you reply...

[czester1]

9a6rmi confirmed the resolution of the speed issue by software repair.

[czester1]

I wrote to him to share his experience in the forum

[Meat-Head]

9a6rmi confirmed the resolution of the speed issue by software repair.

Great, news to help other members, but why you put password, like a crettin?

[czester1]

Why do you insult me, even if someone did something to you angrily, you should not insult anyone.
I believe that insulting anyone really indicates a low intellectual level of the person who offends.


I posted help without a password but a lot of downloads and very little thanks.
Therefore, if it's so difficult to thank, the one who wants to use it will have to make a bit of effort.
In conclusion, most of the help comes with a slogan.

[Meat-Head]

Pass: pm

So why does it say pass pm!


Why do you insult me, even if someone did something to you angrily, you should not insult anyone.
I believe that insulting anyone really indicates a low intellectual level of the person who offends.


I posted help without a password but a lot of downloads and very little thanks.
Therefore, if it's so difficult to thank, the one who wants to use it will have to make a bit of effort.
In conclusion, most of the help comes with a slogan.

Such kind words, thanks a lot

[czester1]

He wrote a private message to me asking for help, so I helped.
That there would be a trace of this help I replied on the forum.

[czester1]

Tsirka (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php?u=688697) share the file in the forum I will help.

[Tsirka]

this file

[Tsirka]

ecu sticker

[czester1]

PASS PM

Pass + Reputation

[Tsirka]

It works ��Thank you czester1

[czester1]

Nice to hear it works

[Radek2000000]

Czester1 i wrote to you PM.

[Radek2000000]

Hi, i have a similar problem, someone can help me fix the dump.

[TACHOMANN]

Hi,
I have similar problem.
Can anyone help me fix it ?
Thanks for help.

[TACHOMANN]

Please help me czester1. I have similar problem.
Thanks for help.

[siwyauto]

please repair eeprom suzuki swift...the car don't count kilometers

[bobolin4o]

It is sad, the man have full PM, didn't look here...
I have same issue in my workshop to solve.

[czester1]

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[czester1]

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[auto12volts]

I have similar problem with speedometer that not count, already check on abs all 4 wheels count speed...
can you help me??

[czester1]

I am asking for a photo sticker from the ECU

[auto12volts]

here is foto label

[czester1]

Test and inform about the results.

[auto12volts]

i still have any speed on dashboard...

[czester1]

Another file to check, you will need to add injectors.

[auto12volts]

still not work, may have faulty ecu...

[krisdiv]

Hi.I have some problem with speedometer that not count,i check on abs all 4 wheels count speed
Please help me.

[czester1]

Don't forget to press thanks, reputation.

[nagybela]

Hello!
Please help eeprom repair.
Thx.

[krisdiv]

Yes works.you are the best.

[afonso rico]

hello you can hellp i not have speedometer

[albdiag]

Suzuki
ecu: 33920-72KQ1

Attached eeprom bin + ecu label

Thank you

[albdiag]

I still need this


Suzuki
ecu: 33920-72KQ1

Attached eeprom bin + ecu label

Thank you

[albdiag]

I still need it

[rsilva]

Hello,

don't mean to disregard member czester1 effort but i had same problem i didn't needed to read eeprom dump. it was not corrupted at that point. But it was needed to program ecu variant againwith diagnostic equipment and speedometer started to work again.

Best regards

[ChipDoctor]

Don't forget to press thanks, reputation.
Hello friend
I have the same problem with speedometer
can you help me please ..........
SWIFT MJD602.Y6 55563974 33920-72KP0
938971

Thanks

[krisdiv]

Sorry for delay