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dudson86
24th June, 2017, 07:38 PM
Hello, please help me with Renault Mascott 3.0 2007, 0281011277 ECU. I have new ECU and key.
1. I've read UCH 93C66 EEPROM, and extracted PIN
2. I've programmed new key to UCH
3. When i tried to learn UCH by Clip i get message that it is already configured
Car won't start. Immo light still on :/ I've read eeprom and flash, please tell me if the files are good to this ecu and car ? (eep_flash.zip - attached)
I tried to virgin ecu epprom with file Virgin.zip (attached): - no results.
I see that i have information on diesel injector calculator in the clip:
- synchronization - not done
- learned code - no
- car start - prohibited
Maybe i need to virgin uch eeprom (uch.zip - attached) and then synchronize it somehow ?
I dont have more ideas :/
PS. Thread moved from ECU sub-forum, admin please remove old one. Sorry.
dudson86
25th June, 2017, 05:41 AM
I've read some threads and i see that i have to virgin eeprom and synchronize ecu with uch- but how? i see no help for free on DK . i can pay for it, i must fix this car quickly.
CHIKO
25th June, 2017, 07:30 AM
HI
to stard i need to know what is the problem of car?
if you have new ecu+key you need the pin of the new ecu and virgin your bsi to sync the key+uch+ecu
if youplug the new ecu with the old uch and programe the key with the org pin the car will not start because the pin are difirent in ecu and uch
let mi what you need to chaenge in your car i will help you with avry think i know
GOOD LUCK
PS TELL MI THE N NEMBER OF YOUR UCH (N1/N2/N3)
dudson86
25th June, 2017, 09:31 AM
"if youplug the new ecu with the old uch and programe the key with the org pin the car will not start because the pin are difirent in ecu and uch" - i think it is situation like this. I gave car to my friend (working) he sold ecu/bsi/key and inserted there everything different i think. After reading bsi i got pin which is working good (i can program key with it). I have UCH N3.
CHIKO
25th June, 2017, 10:51 AM
HI ok
the new key has ben programed succeful to your uch ?
dudson86
25th June, 2017, 11:29 AM
Yes key programmed good. Also in Clip i see after putting on that he is giving code do uch, etc.
eric paris
25th June, 2017, 11:30 AM
hello,
what is the problem key lost ? uch dead ?
if you change the key and uch , you have to virgin the ecu and them the ecu learn the new uch code
kiszka
25th June, 2017, 11:51 AM
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dudson86
25th June, 2017, 11:55 AM
New ecu, uch nad Key. everything from different car i think.
dudson86
25th June, 2017, 12:07 PM
hello,
what is the problem key lost ? uch dead ?
if you change the key and uch , you have to virgin the ecu and them the ecu learn the new uch code
now i know that i need to virgin ecu but my virgin.zip file is not working
eric paris
25th June, 2017, 12:21 PM
what ecu do you have ?
you can program key in second hand (not new) on an other uch ? not sure
mariazo84
25th June, 2017, 12:22 PM
virginiced ecu motor and good star
i tested similar ecu in renault
mariazo84
25th June, 2017, 12:23 PM
reupload original eeprom not virgin
mariazo84
25th June, 2017, 12:24 PM
Surely I need to code injectors
kiszka
25th June, 2017, 12:36 PM
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dudson86
25th June, 2017, 12:52 PM
reupload original eeprom not virgin
Here You go (eeprom and flash).
CHIKO
25th June, 2017, 01:06 PM
HI OK
in attachement you will fonde a virgin file for the ecu warit to the chip and reprograme the key
PIN D9 CF 7D E3 0E 9B
GOOD LUCK
dudson86
25th June, 2017, 01:14 PM
HI OK
in attachement you will fonde a virgin file for the ecu warit to the chip and reprograme the key
PIN D9 CF 7D E3 0E 9B
GOOD LUCK
Ok i will test and report. Will i get access to program key with pincode which is different that extracted from uch eeprom ?
CHIKO
25th June, 2017, 01:18 PM
HI THE PIN IS FROM THE UCH FILE IN THE 1 POST
USE THE PIN THAT YOU HAVE PROGRAMED THE KEY AND UCH SECCUFUL
dudson86
25th June, 2017, 01:27 PM
HI THE PIN IS FROM THE UCH FILE IN THE 1 POST
USE THE PIN THAT YOU HAVE PROGRAMED THE KEY AND UCH SECCUFUL
Ok i'll try but i thought that uch pin is 19 DB CE 8F 7D E3 (i was coding the key with it)
CHIKO
25th June, 2017, 01:38 PM
HI YOU ARE CORRECT I HAVE SELECT CLIO2 NOT TRAFIC
dudson86
26th June, 2017, 09:28 AM
The car still don't start. Immo light still on. The only one difference is that code of injectors are AAAAAA, but i still can't program them and VIN (with Clip). There is also no synchronization between ECU and UCH (in Clip: - synchronization - not done,- learned code - no,- car start - prohibited). What can we do now ?
CHIKO
26th June, 2017, 09:46 PM
HI
@ MR:KISZKA i give hime becuse the virgine fill is not autocoding
@ MR: DUDSON86 THE NEW ECU HASE THE SAME SW/HW AS THE OLD?
eric paris
26th June, 2017, 10:05 PM
the key is synchronized with the uch (with pin code) ?
CHIKO
26th June, 2017, 10:16 PM
HI READ POST 6
GOOD LUCK
dudson86
27th June, 2017, 12:53 AM
Hw same, sw i dont have idea. Tell me last thing: after virgin ecu, before start and without injectors coded , immo Light should be still on?
eric paris
27th June, 2017, 07:24 PM
ecu virgin , after switch ignition on and wait the ecu learn the code
dudson86
27th June, 2017, 08:16 PM
Ok so if immo light is still on - ecu is not learning properly. Maybe flash memory is bad ? I don't know what soft is inside. Maybe someone has dump for ecu and uch that i can write to them both? (codes in ecu and uch will be same)
eric paris
27th June, 2017, 08:24 PM
witch ecu do you have ?
l have pdf document if you want but in french on this uch
l can't upkoad files on the forum , l don't know why
kiszka
27th June, 2017, 08:31 PM
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CHIKO
27th June, 2017, 08:37 PM
HI
whene the light on it mean the ecu dose not resive the pin from the bsi
with renault can clip you have comenication with ecu ?
dudson86
27th June, 2017, 10:11 PM
@chico: Yes i have communication. DTC in ECU are: P0235,P0089,P0110,P0611,P0033,P0100. Maybe DTC P0611 block ecu learning ?
Screen from CLIP/diesel injector calculator below (not possible to code injectors and VIN by Clip):
459466
@kiszka: i will upload also files after programming
It is interesting that there is no fuel on injectors even i put additional ground and plus directly to fuel pomp (i will remove it and check tommorow).
kiszka
27th June, 2017, 10:24 PM
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dudson86
27th June, 2017, 10:38 PM
First post. eep_flash.zip - eeprom and Flash before virgin. or you want actual eeprom after connecting virgin ecu to the car ?
kiszka
27th June, 2017, 10:56 PM
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dudson86
28th June, 2017, 04:14 PM
With this eeprom i can't identify ecu calculator or state list of him. I have error: "DF001, Electric Module, 6.DEF" in Clip which means eeprom problem.
dudson86
29th June, 2017, 09:00 AM
Can someone share dumps from working pair: uch and ecu?
kiszka
29th June, 2017, 10:29 AM
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Bllinda
29th June, 2017, 10:44 AM
test file dump virgin raport
@ dudson86 Is it hard for you to press the button during the time?
test file virgin The same password
dudson86
29th June, 2017, 10:52 AM
@ dudson86 Is it hard for you to press the button during the time?
ohh of course not, sorry
kiszka
29th June, 2017, 10:54 AM
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CHIKO
29th June, 2017, 09:40 PM
HI IF THE FILES FROM MR:KISKA DONT WORK THENE THE NEW ECU IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WIHT YOUR CAR
kiszka
29th June, 2017, 10:48 PM
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rojhat
30th June, 2017, 12:08 AM
hi test this , 100 100 work
dudson86
30th June, 2017, 09:19 AM
HI IF THE FILES FROM MR:KISKA DONT WORK THENE THE NEW ECU IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WIHT YOUR CAR
Files doesn't work and i also think that ECU is not compatible. It is 2006 MY but in the ECU i have stored error of turbo boost sensor that is not present in this car. I have simple mechanical steering. @Chico you think that ECU is not compatible or only flash memory content?
CHIKO
30th June, 2017, 05:46 PM
HI FOR THAT YOU WILL NEED TO GO TO THE DEALER GET YOUR CAR DOCEMENT AND ASK HIM INFORMATION OF YOUR ECU
GOOD LUCK
MrAbdourazak
30th June, 2017, 06:18 PM
Hello To Everybody
I take off from TATA Xeron ECU Delphi with FGTech Galleto v54
Runing on MPC555LF8MZP40
on Infineon
Please i need the immo off for this
Thanks
dudson86
1st July, 2017, 09:06 AM
HI FOR THAT YOU WILL NEED TO GO TO THE DEALER GET YOUR CAR DOCEMENT AND ASK HIM INFORMATION OF YOUR ECU
GOOD LUCK
Ok i should have ECU or SW from Mascott with ZD3A600 engine - 85kW. HW is ok but the ecu can also be from Renault Master so i need full bdm for this ecu. Maybe someone has sth like this ? I see only one corrupted file on DK. Google searching ...
kiszka
1st July, 2017, 09:34 AM
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dudson86
1st July, 2017, 02:42 PM
I've probably found The reason. I cant communicate with ecu via can. Can someone confirm that to synchronization between ecu and uch, and also to code injectors can is necessary?
kiszka
1st July, 2017, 04:25 PM
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dudson86
8th July, 2017, 05:25 PM
Finally problem solved. Can module in UCH was broken. Unfortunatelly Clip didnt report any errors on UCH module.
CHIKO
8th July, 2017, 09:58 PM
HI CAN YOU TELL MI WHAT FILE YOU HAVE USE TO VIRGIN THE ECU
dudson86
9th July, 2017, 02:54 AM
i used file from my first post but i can check your files if you want :)
kiszka
9th July, 2017, 10:01 AM
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CHIKO
10th July, 2017, 10:08 PM
HI THANKS MR:KISZKA i ask to get all image of the problem for this unit i have a sulition
GOOD LUCK
kiszka
10th July, 2017, 10:22 PM
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nazaeas
22nd November, 2017, 09:00 AM
HELLO,
can you help me with working pair eeprom 95160 from ecu + 93c66 from uch
i have Mascott 3.0 with ecu 0281013806 i virgin it but Immo light still on
thank you
nazaeas
23rd November, 2017, 12:18 PM
solved.
thanks to dudson86 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/439790-dudson86)
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