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[cl55]

Q to AlekN ; why then i read cr61 fbs data somethimes reads full with ssid ,s/n , somethimes read only vin , sw number and whats all ... ? and no read personalization data ?

[isma123]

Q to AlekN ; why then i read cr61 fbs data somethimes reads full with ssid ,s/n , somethimes read only vin , sw number and whats all ... ? and no read personalization data ?
DO YOU read direct connection

[AlekN]

Not really, the SPS is needed when we need to answer "how to" questions, we have not cut out the email communication channel where you can report bugs, moreover we have added chat communications where we can discuss bugs and ideas for development as well. Not to mention a third, completely new communications channel where you can share feedback, namely we have the ability to send feedback via the blog pole. It is very important to me because this tells me what else you would like a blog about.



when i say keep developping new stuff,
I ASSUME THAT WHAT WAS DEVELOPPPED SHOULD WORK CORRECTLY;
i was noticing abrites about bugs sending logs .... but now we need SPS to notify their problemes what i don't do any more !

[AlekN]

Hello, it is true that our solution for Mitsubishi isn't top notch. The fact of the matter is that we concentrate most efforts where there is no solution and yes, some of our projects suffer. BUT. I want to talk a bit more about the Mercedes and JLR projects:
- MB: We were the first to provide a solution for FBS3 in 2015, we can do everything you need. What exactly d oyou mean by saying that ONLY W204 is described. W204 just has everything we do in one spot and it is often used as reference. Other than that we can easily split the MB cars into families and describe them so:
- 210/208/202 - the oldest, 38pin cars - all by K-line - password extraction described in a video and a manual, do not extract passwords from working keys - they will not hold up to the task. Easy to replace an EZS, install an ELV Emulator or replace ELV, the ECU does not have CAN so replacement is easiest by dump, if you make an ecu virgin you can adapt it by OBD.
-211/209/203/169/245 (includes Sprinters, Vitos, G Class FBS3)- Combination of CAN and K-line - nothing special, locations for needed cables are present everywhere in manuals - plug and play ELV emulator, all DAS modules replaced with direct connection to CANH and CANL - white green and solid green (same for all MB CAN cars), all cables supplied in the ZN051 kit.
- 204/207/212/176/246 - The easiest to work on all direct connection or OBD, all in the manual, videos also included. Only difference is that ELV requires personalization.
- 164/221/216/251 - Again all by direct connection and again CAN H and CAN L are all green and white green.
All of this is described in this blog post which is over a year old by now and I do not want to repeat all the talking points.
The only possible problem you can have is not paying attention and the EZS falling asleep while extracting the password. For this reason we now have the ZN076. It keeps the EZS awake without letting it miss a beat. Also it adds speed to the extractions: https://abrites.com/products/zn076
https://abrites.com/blog/das-manager-deep-dive

JLR is also described after 2018 and before it in the guides in the blog:
https://abrites.com/blog?criteria%5Bsearch%5D%5Bvalue%5D=jlr

I do not want to repeat the points I described there, so please start with the ultimate guide and then move to UWB, after which KP002 and if you have any other questions - let me know.




I'm one of the first to point out an AVDI failure or where they do a procedure entirely incorrectly(see Mitsubishi prox 15-20, it's so wrong it breaks dealer functions). However the Chinese tools generally follow the AVDI functions just a few months later. There are functions where Chinese manufacturers (usually xhorse) are first but generally it's a case of a European firm releases then there's a flood of Chinese copies a couple months later. This will happen with PW BA Toyota very soon.

Anyway the reason AVDI fails on older stuff where a Chinese tool wins is because they do not care about keeping their functions up to date. This is perfectly seen in their Toyota solutions where they cannot read a majority of smart boxes worldwide because they simply don't have the data to read all of them, or with VAG Immo4 UDS where they lack the data to get security to read some dashboards even with correct pogo pin placement.

Abrities are not a thorough company and they release things in a definite beta for us to test. Their instructions are also very poor, take for example their Mercedes solution where it is very basic (only W204 instructions supplied) and you're expected to work out what circuit does what and how to connect their breakout box solution for all keys lost which their manuals say to do in the car but it's so much easier on the bench.

Then there's the JLR 18+ solution which in RHD markets can easily break cars or cause other major problems through modifying the flash of the BCM. Often JLR dealers quote huge prices to fix problems caused by AVDI here in Aus when even trying to do a spare key.

I left a couple things out here because they're unnecessarily inflammatory.

Don't get me wrong, in my previous job AVDI made my employer an absolutely insane amount of money especially doing things other tools said were impossible at the time. I just know from experience now to not take a tool at it's word and to very carefully examine everything done to a car by any tool as it's rarely as clear cut as their instructions provide. That said at least xhorse are honest when they're going to modify car data.

[AlekN]

Alekn can you please add instruction for RH850 to read it with lift MCU PIN method , to desolder /resolder all this resistors makes just troubles, to lift one PIN is much easier and faster
The next update will reduce the number of components removed until we eventiually bring them down to "0" just like ZN059.

[AlekN]

OK, I will try to do one last concise explenation to possibly help everyone:
1. There are only two CAS3/ 3+ masks where we expect issues - 0L15Y and 0M23S. The problem with them is that whenever you start to erase to do the so called DOWNGRADE they change two bytes in the EEPROM, this happens with ISTA, happens with NCS Expert and all competitor tools, no change. When the bytes in the EEPROM are changed the CAS remains in bootloader. This is a defect on behalf of BMW and it manifests with ANY tool. These cas masks are very common in Mini and X1 (also replacement CAS modules from BMW are also equipped with them, mostly).
2. Solution:
When we get that issue we need to go to programming in Abrites diagnostics for BMW online and reflash the cas, it is not visible by diagnostics but is visible by programming. If that does not solve the problem (i.e. we cannot see the cas by programming) we need to take the CAS out, read by dump, change the two bytes manually and add keys by dump. I want to make a video on that subject, just to show you what exactly we are looking for. The problem is - I only have one 0M23S here and it works fine.
3. Conclusion:
I want to once and for all provide detailed instructions on CAS3/ CAS3+ for all people and for this purpouse I need the following:
- One problematic 0M23S and one problematic 0L15Y. I will install them in our CAS3 test stand and do a video with both on restoring and fixing them so that everyone has a detailed instruction on this.
For this purpouse I am turning to you guys to supply them to me for the test. I will need them for 2-3 days to shoot everything and will pay for shipping.
If you have one - please send it to:
Abrites LTD
147 Cherni Vrah boulevard
Sofia (1407),Bulgaria +359 2 955 04 56
To the attention of Alek Nedelchev.

I trust this will end the discussion on the subject.
Please bear in mind that I will be out of the office, on a long awaited holiday between the 10th and the 24th of July.



i already do this on the table , but AlekN made the bold claim that this was safe by obd with avdi , so im just asking him if this is the case as i still read issues , if safe i will try , if not i may as well continue removing the cas.

I said above the biggest problems are in connection online due to the laptop poor , windows system , the speed of data processing , poor internet connection and and the last last one is server we can blame him too .

[AlekN]

Dear CL55 (lovely name btw). Is it possible to send me a video of that so that we can take this and find the real reason (please send it to support@abrites.com)


Q to AlekN ; why then i read cr61 fbs data somethimes reads full with ssid ,s/n , somethimes read only vin , sw number and whats all ... ? and no read personalization data ?

[AlekN]

It 100% is the case, if you have a bug we want to know.


AlekN did state earlier in the thread that you dont need SPS to report and discuss a bug or software issue , if a software issue sps is not needed , is this not the case ?

[Fallen]

2020 Alfa Romeo Giulia with a FCA gateway.
The only option under Giulia was to read the PIN code, no enable/disable fobiks.
Completed job under Stelvio.

[Spiritech]

Hello, it is true that our solution for Mitsubishi isn't top notch. The fact of the matter is that we concentrate most efforts where there is no solution and yes, some of our projects suffer. BUT. I want to talk a bit more about the Mercedes and JLR projects:
- MB: We were the first to provide a solution for FBS3 in 2015, we can do everything you need. What exactly d oyou mean by saying that ONLY W204 is described. W204 just has everything we do in one spot and it is often used as reference. Other than that we can easily split the MB cars into families and describe them so:
- 210/208/202 - the oldest, 38pin cars - all by K-line - password extraction described in a video and a manual, do not extract passwords from working keys - they will not hold up to the task. Easy to replace an EZS, install an ELV Emulator or replace ELV, the ECU does not have CAN so replacement is easiest by dump, if you make an ecu virgin you can adapt it by OBD.
-211/209/203/169/245 (includes Sprinters, Vitos, G Class FBS3)- Combination of CAN and K-line - nothing special, locations for needed cables are present everywhere in manuals - plug and play ELV emulator, all DAS modules replaced with direct connection to CANH and CANL - white green and solid green (same for all MB CAN cars), all cables supplied in the ZN051 kit.
- 204/207/212/176/246 - The easiest to work on all direct connection or OBD, all in the manual, videos also included. Only difference is that ELV requires personalization.
- 164/221/216/251 - Again all by direct connection and again CAN H and CAN L are all green and white green.
All of this is described in this blog post which is over a year old by now and I do not want to repeat all the talking points.
The only possible problem you can have is not paying attention and the EZS falling asleep while extracting the password. For this reason we now have the ZN076. It keeps the EZS awake without letting it miss a beat. Also it adds speed to the extractions: https://abrites.com/products/zn076
https://abrites.com/blog/das-manager-deep-dive

JLR is also described after 2018 and before it in the guides in the blog:
https://abrites.com/blog?criteria%5Bsearch%5D%5Bvalue%5D=jlr

I do not want to repeat the points I described there, so please start with the ultimate guide and then move to UWB, after which KP002 and if you have any other questions - let me know.

I'm glad you admit the Mitsubishi special functions are poor, in fact I'd recommend to any user they do not use them as the way they work in the later proximity vehicles is honestly garbage and should not be done. Resetting the KOS and firing a key down the OBD port is not acceptable, not when the memory can be read by OBD and a key registered properly. Your solution leaves the SKC in the ECU as zeroes and prevents the KOS ever seeking a key at the slot or button.

While your Mercedes manuals have been updated since I last looked to include a lot of wiring for EZS on bench I quote from page 128 "we always prefer to work in the car". But your manuals above ONLY describe the in-car procedure for W204 family vehicles which is my point, you discourage working outside the car but only provide manuals for working within the car for 1 model family. The error handling for W204 password extraction from key is laughable, if the internet drops at the wrong time it sits there spinning it's wheels forever, it never gives an error message just says 'extracting data from the key' forever. Compare this to an xhorse/cgdi etc chinese tool which only requires internet to process the resultant data after it's played with the EZS and key, big user experience difference as we only need internet for a minute for the chinese tools, but we need good, stable, reliable internet permanently for yours. Goes back to the point I have made at least once in this thread, recover data from the car THEN ask for online to decrypt/process.

Your JLR solution is garbage, I've personally supported more than one person through the fix of re-flashing the BCM and replacing the RFA after AVDI has killed the car doing a spare key. Yes it may be them not following the instructions to the letter but the fact is more than once it's occurred. Personal experience is no better, I added a TA66 to a 2019 Range Rover and then when trying to update the EM015 it failed, despite my following the instructions in the video exactly, I could get the first bootloader to take but never the update file leading me to believe the update file wasn't valid for that bootloader or vice versa and it would then never take the resulted data file from AVDI diagnostics. When I emailed support I was told to contact someone else, who sent me to someone else, who never replied, I was told at least once I'd need SPS to solve this. Now what I did to solve this car is just replace the RFA and keys and do it the JLR way. I did not try to disassemble what you do with the EM015 and it's bootloader & software even though in hindsight I should have. Your support passing the buck even when someone doesn't have SPS shouldn't happen, you charge premium money for a premium product it should come with some degree of support.

Next do we want to chat about MQB dashboards and what gets written back? I'll add a hint here, it involves "VO****". *s to hide the guilty party.

[lush29]

2018 discovery added TA66 with em015 key works only for close range . Alekn can you look into this please for future.

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[AlekN]

I try to be as respectful as possible as I think of myself as an honourable man and I will not stop now. As whitful as your comment is it cannot be further from the truth. It takes no more than 5 cars to get into grips with working on MB and we do have a description of the cables you need, we have provided you with user manuals, blog posts and videos.

Unless the cars you are working on for JLR have been previously manipulated with a certain Polish device we are certain that our solution works. Let's talk details - please tell get in touch with particular problems instead of just saying that everything is "garbage" because you had a particular problem, this is disrespectful and unfair.

We provide unique solutions for problems people have, we charge the price for our work, we do have free support but not free walkthroughs.

Yes, I would like to discuss the MQB dashboards because I do not fully understand the comment.

[Spiritech]

I try to be as respectful as possible as I think of myself as an honourable man and I will not stop now. As whitful as your comment is it cannot be further from the truth. It takes no more than 5 cars to get into grips with working on MB and we do have a description of the cables you need, we have provided you with user manuals, blog posts and videos.

Unless the cars you are working on for JLR have been previously manipulated with a certain Polish device we are certain that our solution works. Let's talk details - please tell get in touch with particular problems instead of just saying that everything is "garbage" because you had a particular problem, this is disrespectful and unfair.

We provide unique solutions for problems people have, we charge the price for our work, we do have free support but not free walkthroughs.

Yes, I would like to discuss the MQB dashboards because I do not fully understand the comment.

I'm not being unreasonable or impolite in my eyes, I fully apologise if you consider that I am. I simply would like to get answers to some I admit very complicated questions.

I don't think my comment on the Mercedes solution is wit, it is a statement of the truth. Your manuals state work in the car but only supply diagrams and instructions for one model family. Yes, I fully admit you have added outside of the car wiring diagrams for the models outside of the W204 instructions. But the fact is the instructions are not complete for the purpose which you make them for. And yes you are probably right within about 5 cars of doing this for yourself you can work out how to do various vehicles but you should not have to at this price point work out how to do things yourself when CN market tools simply give it to you for free.

I can 100% guarantee every single failure I've supported and my own failure were 100% Abrites with JLR no other tool used. I can get the latest failure AVDI serial for you in the next couple days and perhaps you can look at the logs yourself. I'll PM it to you tomorrow.

Yes I know Abrities often provides unique solutions to unknown problems but sometimes these solutions carry a greater risk than your software and marketing discloses, or in the case of Mitsubishi does not disclose that it breaks the OEM key learning function. I am not denigrating Abrities as a company only some of the solutions and supporting documentation where I know it is either incorrect or incomplete.

The MQB key learning function, go ask Voscan what he writes back to the flash.

EDIT: I again apologise if I'm sounding rude or impolite, I am simply being direct in my eyes.

[rapidlocksmiths]

With regards the manuals then spiritech is correct that they are in many cases lacking in clear concise info , mercedes as mentioned and in some cases vag too and others.

AlekN what you must now consider is that Abrites has spent many years courting the custom of new starts and attracting new customers with free functions and with cheaper prices as well as your token version via keyline, reading the groups and the forums you have done well with this as its full of people with avdi that dont truly know how to use it . those of us that have had avdi for many years and those who know their cars figure it out , however , you have a large customer base maybe larger than you think that dont have the knowledge to work this out , thus many brick cars and hit issues you may not expect. its left to others to put these right or often to support these people .
when writing the manuals you really need to view the audience as knowing nothing at all , thus basics to advanced info , pictures and spoon feeding .
some need instructions on every set up they are likely to see on the various models , as they will have no knowledge of the make , model or system they are plugging into , this im afraid is todays trade.

to give you an example of common questions i get asked , surprisingly on nec vag , not so much all keys lost but the simpler spare key coding , where alot get stuck is on entering service mode by obd with working key then what to read and how to proceed to add a key , they watch the video on the uk distributors site which hasnt been updated for a long while , the process changed slightly since this video , however video was never updated , thus they abort and seek help , sounds basic and silly , but it happens more than you may think , yes the manual does cover this , yes some are too lazy to read the manual , but some it just confuses them , you no longer just deal with knowledgable tradesmen .

though if manual covered this or distributor videos were current they wouldnt get stuck when things change .

to you the older functions are common knowledge , you know your way around the software and you do know about cars and their systems , many of your newer users do not , many wouldnt know how to check a fuse.

so more concise manuals and alot more videos would relieve this im sure.

i still do alot of support on lishi tools , i too took for granted that they would have some knowledge of locks and how they work , i too had to dumb it down often as talking to someone with zero knowledge and understanding.

i must say reading spiritech post it is concerning reading of these potential issues with later mitsi prox , jlr 2018+ and mqb and clarification would be good and maybe fixes.

with regards online mercedes etc it is surely possible to adapt this so online is only used when crucial to save issues if internet dips ?

all this the chinese are doing , if they can do it then im sure abrites can do it better and improve the manuals , videos and processes .

thanks for the CAS3/3+ response and solution , i look forward to seeing the video/manual on this as will help many im sure .

[Spiritech]

AlekN, I fully admit I was out of line using terms like 'garbage' in my previous posts. I apologise for my miscommunication here. I don't wish to run you off the forum here, but there are issues that need to be dealt with with abrities software. I will endeavour to make myself more cordial in the future.

I re-read my own posts and considered them a little too aggressive.

[Ecuprog31]

Anyone had success with clio v remote key ?
what type of remote you use ?

[habbyb]

abrites team he was left far behind in the license from the group vag I mean especially MQB and micronas dash bord I paid a lot lot lot lot for this license and in the end to do it with a tool made in china which cost under 900 beat him a lot on abrites , succes abrites team .

[qwojtus]

Anyone had success with clio v remote key ?
what type of remote you use ?

I used genuine one but everything should work apparently. Programming no issues. :congrats:

[Spiritech]

abrites team he was left far behind in the license from the group vag I mean especially MQB and micronas dash bord I paid a lot lot lot lot for this license and in the end to do it with a tool made in china which cost under 900 beat him a lot on abrites , succes abrites team .

Stuff like this is part of my problem and what I'm getting at even though I've not specifically mentioned this issue. Abrities solutions though often first to market are sometimes not well supported by documentation or keeping them updated for problems outside of the original software release such as updates to keyless modules which do happen. There are other issues like the tool's habit of writing back tell-tale data to some modules. For the price charged for licences, hardware and accessories such as keys there should be either a degree of support built in or manuals should be improved to the point where a novice working with the tool could work out what to do, or possibly how to solve their own problem from the manual.

Anyway I've requested logs of the latest failed MY19 JLR vehicle that I supported to forward to AlekN, hopefully we together can get to the bottom of why this car now does not start.

I'm very passionate about our industry and doubly so about doing jobs 'properly' which to me means as close to OEM functions as is possible, we're professionals and should offer professional service which includes not writing data back as a signature or bypassing security built in by the manufacturer. Sometimes this passion translates poorly into text.

[gttuning]

Seat leon 2011.. 1.6 tdi
Was at this car learning cluster..
Ori cluster with working key ...service mode ok..

Secondhand..
Put it on bench using ZN59 ..
Powers up cluster ..when press enter service mode ..it checks if ZN059 connected but I get message that ZN059 not connected..

So went the old way taking eeprom out..
Read eeprom ..load to avdi then we get new eeprom file and once saved on desktop you will get message to press continue only once eeprom is written to cluster..

So as normal write mod file to eepro. ..connect cluster and press ok..

Here problem starts..I get screen as I would be connecting by obd and have message immobiliser active ...you need read confi dump...
I press again YES and still back to same screen..
When I pressed NO it entered Service mode [emoji848][emoji848]..
So looks like there is software bug in this ...

Anyone recently used ZN059 and or confi data to enter service mode..?

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[offsystem]

Seat leon 2011.. 1.6 tdi
Was at this car learning cluster..
Ori cluster with working key ...service mode ok..

Secondhand..
Put it on bench using ZN59 ..
Powers up cluster ..when press enter service mode ..it checks if ZN059 connected but I get message that ZN059 not connected..

So went the old way taking eeprom out..
Read eeprom ..load to avdi then we get new eeprom file and once saved on desktop you will get message to press continue only once eeprom is written to cluster..

So as normal write mod file to eepro. ..connect cluster and press ok..

Here problem starts..I get screen as I would be connecting by obd and have message immobiliser active ...you need read confi dump...
I press again YES and still back to same screen..
When I pressed NO it entered Service mode [emoji848][emoji848]..
So looks like there is software bug in this ...

Anyone recently used ZN059 and or confi data to enter service mode..?

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yes ZN059 is working well but is tricky you need switch on cluster in correct time or connect pin in correct moment that you can enter into servicemode without keys. i always need few attempts but its working

[AlekN]

True, you are right. This is exactly why i am here, to clear any uncertainty people may have.

If you have anything you need to know please feel free to let me know and please note that there is no topic off limits apart from pricing as this is absolutely not my wheelhouse.


With regards the manuals then spiritech is correct that they are in many cases lacking in clear concise info , mercedes as mentioned and in some cases vag too and others.

AlekN what you must now consider is that Abrites has spent many years courting the custom of new starts and attracting new customers with free functions and with cheaper prices as well as your token version via keyline, reading the groups and the forums you have done well with this as its full of people with avdi that dont truly know how to use it . those of us that have had avdi for many years and those who know their cars figure it out , however , you have a large customer base maybe larger than you think that dont have the knowledge to work this out , thus many brick cars and hit issues you may not expect. its left to others to put these right or often to support these people .
when writing the manuals you really need to view the audience as knowing nothing at all , thus basics to advanced info , pictures and spoon feeding .
some need instructions on every set up they are likely to see on the various models , as they will have no knowledge of the make , model or system they are plugging into , this im afraid is todays trade.

to give you an example of common questions i get asked , surprisingly on nec vag , not so much all keys lost but the simpler spare key coding , where alot get stuck is on entering service mode by obd with working key then what to read and how to proceed to add a key , they watch the video on the uk distributors site which hasnt been updated for a long while , the process changed slightly since this video , however video was never updated , thus they abort and seek help , sounds basic and silly , but it happens more than you may think , yes the manual does cover this , yes some are too lazy to read the manual , but some it just confuses them , you no longer just deal with knowledgable tradesmen .

though if manual covered this or distributor videos were current they wouldnt get stuck when things change .

to you the older functions are common knowledge , you know your way around the software and you do know about cars and their systems , many of your newer users do not , many wouldnt know how to check a fuse.

so more concise manuals and alot more videos would relieve this im sure.

i still do alot of support on lishi tools , i too took for granted that they would have some knowledge of locks and how they work , i too had to dumb it down often as talking to someone with zero knowledge and understanding.

i must say reading spiritech post it is concerning reading of these potential issues with later mitsi prox , jlr 2018+ and mqb and clarification would be good and maybe fixes.

with regards online mercedes etc it is surely possible to adapt this so online is only used when crucial to save issues if internet dips ?

all this the chinese are doing , if they can do it then im sure abrites can do it better and improve the manuals , videos and processes .

thanks for the CAS3/3+ response and solution , i look forward to seeing the video/manual on this as will help many im sure .

[AlekN]

Thank you, I am here for you guys. The whole idea of the customer success role is for you guys to be successful using our tool. Any problems you may have I am happy to discuss.


AlekN, I fully admit I was out of line using terms like 'garbage' in my previous posts. I apologise for my miscommunication here. I don't wish to run you off the forum here, but there are issues that need to be dealt with with abrities software. I will endeavour to make myself more cordial in the future.

I re-read my own posts and considered them a little too aggressive.

[AlekN]

In theory any key would work - meaning that aftermarket keys must also be programmed. I need a locksmith to correct me here but the CLIO V like the duster ph3 and some others use the NCF type of cards which are not as good in the aftermarket. I am sure of one thing - our TA65 works for the CLIO V.
https://abrites.com/products/ta65


I used genuine one but everything should work apparently. Programming no issues. :congrats:

[AlekN]

2018 discovery added TA66 with em015 key works only for close range . Alekn can you look into this please for future.

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I think we need to get an RHD JLR as they appear different to the ones we used. We are now looking for a test car. I spoke to the developer to see if remote access would be enough or the car has to physically be here.

[AlekN]

Anyone had success with clio v remote key ?
what type of remote you use ?

By remote key do you mean a mechanical key?

[gttuning]

yes ZN059 is working well but is tricky you need switch on cluster in correct time or connect pin in correct moment that you can enter into servicemode without keys. i always need few attempts but its workingYes.im familiar with how to use it .
this is diffrent issue..software can't see Zn059 and after that software shutdowns..

I know the steps how to carry out this procedure..

I took the old cluster with me and I'm going to ask for new links ..if that doesn't fix i make a video of it.

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[gttuning]

Renault online..
Program id's on opel vivaro 2017..
Fail..
Tryed conect by Opel online can't detect that van..
Someone replaced radio in it..
If I go to type in new vin and press enter it doesn't change the vin on main screen so it also doesn't program new vin is software thinks there is no changes made..

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[AlekN]

Seems right, the Vivaro is the same when doing key programming and not the same when doing replacements and vin changes. Not that vin changes are the top of the pops but vivaro is not the same.


Renault online..
Program id's on opel vivaro 2017..
Fail..
Tryed conect by Opel online can't detect that van..
Someone replaced radio in it..
If I go to type in new vin and press enter it doesn't change the vin on main screen so it also doesn't program new vin is software thinks there is no changes made..

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[qwojtus]

I did Vivaro 2018 another day using Renault software. I had another engine ECU and wanted to adpot it. Renew ECM did not work, adopt virgin ecu did not work. Under Opel nothing works as well.

[whiskeyman]

yup and ford still crap tested other day AKL thought would knock the dust off it
china beat it again

[AlekN]

I would not go as far as to say that everything is crap, but there are indeed poor bits in it.


yup and ford still crap tested other day AKL thought would knock the dust off it
china beat it again

[rapidlocksmiths]

AlekN , no i wouldnt call it crap , it does sometimes save me and save the day on some ford , but overall it is poor compared to the far cheaper options out there and insignificant compared to likes of smart pro on ford.

you have stated that this is being worked on , so we hope for huge steps forward with regards the ford software , its one of the few avdi softwares that has not achieved payback for me at least as unreliable.

To us who paid you for this it is poor and not avdi quality , its a bit like having a ferarri and putting cheap unfit tyres on it , a let down.

so compared to a number of far cheaper tools it could be deemed crap in comparison by those who paid a high price for it , even you know its not abrites best work and has been left to stagnate for a long while now , when the work is complete this may change of course all be it a bit late to the party.

how unreliable it is was my reason for not buying FN010 and investing elsewhere , theres alot of work to do to even get it to the standard of many of the china tools , not something any avdi owner would have ever thought possible.

balls in abrites court to prove this is not the case by improving it , so we see what the future holds.

[ThiagoArgentino]

I would not go as far as to say that everything is crap, but there are indeed poor bits in it.




What about JLR 2018+ keys? Solved the problem of not reading the original vehicle key to make a copy?

[AlekN]

I would not go as far as to say that everything is crap, but there are indeed poor bits in it.


yup and ford still crap tested other day AKL thought would knock the dust off it
china beat it again

[AlekN]

I am not sure you understand the idea of how it works, when you read the original key the software tells you if you can or cannot save the original key and gives you 30 seconds. Unless the car has been tampeted with using a Polish device we can work on it no problem, if it has been tampered with then God himself cannot fix it and you need BCM, UWB, ECU and KEYS.


What about JLR 2018+ keys? Solved the problem of not reading the original vehicle key to make a copy?

[AlekN]

That is true and I agree. I know the reason why this is so. It is embarrasing and I would rather not say. I promise you, we have a new guy working on the Ford and we will have a working solution.
I know of another problem with MAzda CX5 2017+ where key learning of all keys lost is not possible so this car is on the same list to be added for development.


AlekN , no i wouldnt call it crap , it does sometimes save me and save the day on some ford , but overall it is poor compared to the far cheaper options out there and insignificant compared to likes of smart pro on ford.

you have stated that this is being worked on , so we hope for huge steps forward with regards the ford software , its one of the few avdi softwares that has not achieved payback for me at least as unreliable.

To us who paid you for this it is poor and not avdi quality , its a bit like having a ferarri and putting cheap unfit tyres on it , a let down.

so compared to a number of far cheaper tools it could be deemed crap in comparison by those who paid a high price for it , even you know its not abrites best work and has been left to stagnate for a long while now , when the work is complete this may change of course all be it a bit late to the party.

how unreliable it is was my reason for not buying FN010 and investing elsewhere , theres alot of work to do to even get it to the standard of many of the china tools , not something any avdi owner would have ever thought possible.

balls in abrites court to prove this is not the case by improving it , so we see what the future holds.

[rapidlocksmiths]

Thank you for response , i hope the new work on ford makes us all smile in the near future . especially on custom and transit alarm active without the need to buy fr010.

for you its embarassing , but for us that paid you alot of money for this software its frustrating and frustration leads to anger , so you can maybe understand why many refer to it as crap .

i know pricing is not your bag , but charging high for something not right is poor form and not what we expect from a premium product like avdi , when we moan of old long time customers getting a raw deal , this is part of that , we pay more than new customers in end so softwares like ford frustration evolves to anger as for so many years its fallen on deaf ears.

i hope the future is better on ford, if the case then im sure such comments will cease , abrites could do alot more for its old customers which would also ease such comments , so fingers crossed that your new team change this.

[gttuning]

Alek Zn059 is back with a bug..like last year..
Befor I got new links the software didn't see my ZN059 connected...

After new set of links now software can see ZN059 but once it tells you that take the pin away ....message pops up can't enter bootloader.....
The sequence is wrong in the software ...

I managed to enter service mode but not flowing what software tells you to doo..

I have another job in garage with golf for cluster replacement i make a video of.it and sent to support..
Its gona be the quick way of solving this.




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[gttuning]

Seems right, the Vivaro is the same when doing key programming and not the same when doing replacements and vin changes. Not that vin changes are the top of the pops but vivaro is not the same.So how can we replace the vin on Opel .
Vaxhaul??
In my situation when I tryed connect to van by Opel ..avdi wouldn't even connect to vehicle??


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[whiskeyman]

hello alekN
we hate bashing your ear trust me last thing we want it harrasing someone
and full well knowing theres jack shit you can do sometimes ,like many your hands will be tied what the bosses want

Renault masters 2020- can you ask them to do thorough testing of this software as last thing we want is bricked vans with 2-3 month waiting list for parts
and getting told it was an odd ball van or something must have been tampered with ............used to get this a lot from avdi support when you acutally got an answer back etc etc

testing is key to success not just testing on couple of vehicles and chucking it out for the guinea pigs to test
dont mind little extra cost if i know its trustworthy

thanks again alekn for your support it all helps

[AlekN]

I think I know what you mean and I believe I have had this issue, please let me research a bit more and get back to you. I think I also discussed this (I think the UK Trafic 3s have something really strange and we had a tough time fixing it).



hello alekN
we hate bashing your ear trust me last thing we want it harrasing someone
and full well knowing theres jack shit you can do sometimes ,like many your hands will be tied what the bosses want

Renault masters 2020- can you ask them to do thorough testing of this software as last thing we want is bricked vans with 2-3 month waiting list for parts
and getting told it was an odd ball van or something must have been tampered with ............used to get this a lot from avdi support when you acutally got an answer back etc etc

testing is key to success not just testing on couple of vehicles and chucking it out for the guinea pigs to test
dont mind little extra cost if i know its trustworthy

thanks again alekn for your support it all helps

[atomiczen]

little bug found on mine. Mercedes FSB3 key enable-disable option on das manager.
One click it disable key
another click it ask for license for enable it again.
I have no license for mercedes, so i have disabled a key and i cannot enable again
why not ask for license before disable key also?

[qwojtus]

New programmer RH850. Is it normal have driver like that in the device Manager? I can't read the cluster it keeps disconnect once try to read.

[tkmotors]

Hi Alek
what is the problem with Renault traffic 3 in Uk Model?
I have done few of them and always was ok .

[rapidlocksmiths]

Hi Alek
what is the problem with Renault traffic 3 in Uk Model?
I have done few of them and always was ok .

there isnt a problem with traffic 3 key programming , there was when the software was first released as bricked them , if you read what AlekN wrote " we had a tough time fixing it " , they fixed the issue that only affected uk models and they fixed it quickly.
But at 1 point there was alot of these sitting bricked with a long wait for new uch , still is quite a few getting bricked but with other tools.

[gttuning]

I notice few months back that avdi won't make dealer key on mqb ...2014 ..2013.. Leon golf
It reads blank key ok..then I have message..can't write transponder..incorrectly positioned..
Even with striped key and place board to protag wont do it..
So today I had leon 2014 same issue..
Took im608 to make dealer key and programed without any issues..

Did abrites dome something to software to block chine keys to be coded?? as I did this befor with avdi and had no issues..?.


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[mjoesen]

Is it a Oem key or aftermarket? I have problem with dealer key making on keydiy mqb, but not Oem with Avdi.

[gttuning]

Is it a Oem key or aftermarket? I have problem with dealer key making on keydiy mqb, but not Oem with Avdi.Same here. aftermarket i use..not oem
I use to be fit to do all with avdi..with aftermarket keys..but noticed few months that is not doing the job..

So today I tryed again and fail...
Took autel out and first go ..no issue.


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[qwojtus]

Last week failed on CAS3 mini 2010 downgrade. Repeted procedure a few times and never luck. I did it with Autohex eventally in the first time. Luckly customer brought CAS to me so not big issue.

Corsa D clear pin from ECU - no issues, perfect - but no option to write new pin at all. Finished with Autel within 5 sec.

Porsche 911 977 2008 - rear electronic module replacement - not supported SW - job completed easly with Autel in 5 sec.

Also one positive did Hyundai 2022 spare key in 5 sec.


Does anyone know if it is possible to transfer purchased licences for more useful ?

[habbyb]

autel he is behaving better and better beat him several times abrites it is far behind , succes .

[whiskeyman]

old landrover defender 2013 keys
avdi nope
autel yes

[gttuning]

Renault scenic 2019 akl.
Read pin OK.
Add key card Ok
[emoji108]

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[Ecuprog31]

Hello
i have boxer 2020
i can read PIN code from bcm with avdi
but I can’t generate dealer key it tell me generic error
so I’ve dismantled bcm
I haven’t abprog
can I read eprom with another programmer and make dealer key by dump ?
if I can where is the eprom
and what eprom is it
95320 or 95640?
thanks

[offsystem]

Have problem to make Audi BCM2 key 8T0959754D virgin, always get error when i try to program it memory write failed!

[mjoesen]

Hello
i have boxer 2020
i can read PIN code from bcm with avdi
but I can’t generate dealer key it tell me generic error
so I’ve dismantled bcm
I haven’t abprog
can I read eprom with another programmer and make dealer key by dump ?
if I can where is the eprom
and what eprom is it
95320 or 95640?
thanks

Hello!

I have only read with Abprog and have not tried another solution. When you precode the key it is a stand alone solution from Abprog where you simply load your dump in to Avdi, so I think it would work. You have a photo of the chip and a pinout in the Fiat manual. Good luck!
https://abrites.com/media/user_manuals/html/abrites-diagnostics-for-fiat-alfa-lancia-fca-user-manual/index.html?v=1675945428

[Ecuprog31]

Thanks job done
Ive desolder it

[lush29]

2013 FEM , unsupported [emoji106]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230720/b5f4d05c6c5cfd1bf051913d72461bd5.jpg

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[gttuning]

2013 FEM , unsupported [emoji106]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230720/b5f4d05c6c5cfd1bf051913d72461bd5.jpg

Sent from my Pixel 6 Pro using TapatalkFlash it to diffrent software upgrade that avdi supports..
I had this the same ..
Contact support and they will tell you what soft to choose and then you can use it..


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[p1et]

I am not sure you understand the idea of how it works, when you read the original key the software tells you if you can or cannot save the original key and gives you 30 seconds. Unless the car has been tampeted with using a Polish device we can work on it no problem

Can you elaborate which device? Lonsdor comes up on my mind but it's not polish device. Poldiag maybe but never heard they have bad solutions for something

[lush29]

Flash it to diffrent software upgrade that avdi supports..
I had this the same ..
Contact support and they will tell you what soft to choose and then you can use it..


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[rapidlocksmiths]

Can you elaborate which device? Lonsdor comes up on my mind but it's not polish device. Poldiag maybe but never heard they have bad solutions for something

im sure AlekN will respond when hes back from his holiday , im sure he posted he was off for his holiday .

wont be lonsdor as lonsdor is chinese not polish as you say.

[Weasel3]

Flash it to diffrent software upgrade that avdi supports..
I had this the same ..
Contact support and they will tell you what soft to choose and then you can use it..


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At last, I was able to log into DK again.
Would not accept, the new I made.
And just followed DK, without login for a while.

This post is interesting: #3559 (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/639459-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-NEW-AVDI-PROBLEMS-AND-SOLUTIONS-ONLY-THREAD-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt?p=4582998&viewfull=1#post4582998)
I was quite sure, it was only able to do BDC.

[p1et]

wont be lonsdor as lonsdor is chinese not polish as you say.


Yes exactly but polish version was produced from the beginning and there is polish distributor who upload videos in polish language, there is one about JLR 2018+ smart key copying so I thought maybe that's the point of conversation.

[rapidlocksmiths]

ah maybe .

is lonsdor reliable on 2018 plus jlr smart key copying ? not sure id risk it , though lonsdor does look very good on later toyota and lexus.

[Spiritech]

ah maybe .

is lonsdor reliable on 2018 plus jlr smart key copying ? not sure id risk it , though lonsdor does look very good on later toyota and lexus.


Range Rover models with UWB I wouldn't do with Lonsdor, you need to modify the CCF to get the key working as they have no emulator functions for the UWB module. The modifications will turn off the telematics, nav etc.

Can confirm the Toyota solution is good though, I've used it on plenty of cars and it rarely fails. When it does you start playing tool lotto for who has the password to read your particular smart box CVN.

[gttuning]

At last, I was able to log into DK again.
Would not accept, the new I made.
And just followed DK, without login for a while.

This post is interesting: #3559 (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/639459-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-gt-NEW-AVDI-PROBLEMS-AND-SOLUTIONS-ONLY-THREAD-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt-lt?p=4582998&viewfull=1#post4582998)
I was quite sure, it was only able to do BDC.You mean complet key learning by obd ??.


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[nazz2]

Guys, anyone done spare remote for Ford Transit Courier 2020 with Avdi or smart pro? SP goes to 2017 and avdi 2018, also remote sold upto 17 plate!, wonder if the system has been changed,after 17, thanks

[isma123]

I would not go as far as to say that everything is crap, but there are indeed poor bits in it.


hello,
can you remind me price off ford licences that we paied for ? and never worked

[deimonk]

Hello. When will ZN086 be released, and how will it be delivered, together with ABPROG or separately?
When will you update the FBS4 manager?

[ghitab]

Hi. Anyone used new rh850 option on vag dash?
Thanks

[bonecrusher]

Hello Guys..

I have hardly been using the AVDI and now the AMS is up to 450Euro

I did not get a chance to update the AMS, whats my way here?

[mjoesen]

Hello Guys..

I have hardly been using the AVDI and now the AMS is up to 450Euro

I did not get a chance to update the AMS, whats my way here?

Ams cost 300 euro.
If you wait 3-9 month to renew it from expiration date it cost 450 euro.
9-23 months cost 600
23+ months cost 800.

All available in price list:
https://abrites.com/page/pricelist

[lush29]

Hi. Anyone used new rh850 option on vag dash?
ThanksYes, I did 3 dashes so far. Option works 100%

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[habbyb]

Yes, I did 3 dashes so far. Option works 100%

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please tell me if you managed to make keys , thanks .

[nazz2]

Hi Alek N
Can we add remote key to Fiat 500 Hybrid 2022 and 2023? Thanks

[shafo]

AlekN maybe you can assist ..ive always been able to correct the vin on e90 platform using the "programming ids" tab with online software ..now when i go in it only picks up the cas and frm and then continues looking for other units but never picks them up ..tested on 3 different vehicles and does the same
this always worked in the past

[lush29]

please tell me if you managed to make keys , thanks .Yes , you have problems with making a dealer key?

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[gttuning]

2012 range rover evoque ..
Aftermarket key learning ok[emoji108]


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[AlekN]

Hi Alek N
Can we add remote key to Fiat 500 Hybrid 2022 and 2023? Thanks

Depends on the BCM, the electric ones come with a new BCM which is yet to be covered, the previous generation are supported but I am not sure if they are produced up to 2022.

[AlekN]

AlekN maybe you can assist ..ive always been able to correct the vin on e90 platform using the "programming ids" tab with online software ..now when i go in it only picks up the cas and frm and then continues looking for other units but never picks them up ..tested on 3 different vehicles and does the same
this always worked in the past

Please make sure that you are only using the ONLINE software, if you are you have a communication problem if it only sees two modules. I have had an e90 in the past and have successfully changed vins on it.

[AlekN]

2012 range rover evoque ..
Aftermarket key learning ok[emoji108]


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More details would be beneficial to all, me thinks :)

[AlekN]

Quick Public Service Announcement regarding the ZN085 V850/RH850 programmer so that we are all on the same page, other topics since I have been on Holiday, I came back last week and wanted to bring you up to speed on the progress:
1. Reading works great for both processor types. In case of any issues please let our support team know - new dashboards keep popping up here and there and we need those.
2. Reduced number of components to be removed is coming ASAP - we are nearly there and the next update will have a reduction of components. Eventually this will be brought to "0" components to be removed. For now it is not possible because the voltage applied is too high.
3. RH850 are still not writeable outside the Abrites test facility. We did write many successfully but there is still failiure and this cannot be released until failiure drops to less than 10% at the very least. This means that keys are ready for both and mileage we only do V850.
4. New video of a 2023 Q3 AKL is in the works.
5. Interesting development on the new Renault platform is underway. Thankfully my aunt bought a new Dacia, sadly for her - it is in our posession.
6. Great stuff on the BMW bikes - I am putting together a new blog post on this topic.
7. Our long term customers will receive a pleasant surprise on Thursday, do not ask me more details - I am not at liberty to speak.

[vageric]

Hi Alek N
Can we add remote key to Fiat 500 Hybrid 2022 and 2023? Thanks

Nazz2, what is your problem with the Fiat 500 Hybrid remote ?

[whiskeyman]

Quick Public Service Announcement regarding the ZN085 V850/RH850 programmer so that we are all on the same page, other topics since I have been on Holiday, I came back last week and wanted to bring you up to speed on the progress:
1. Reading works great for both processor types. In case of any issues please let our support team know - new dashboards keep popping up here and there and we need those.
2. Reduced number of components to be removed is coming ASAP - we are nearly there and the next update will have a reduction of components. Eventually this will be brought to "0" components to be removed. For now it is not possible because the voltage applied is too high.
3. RH850 are still not writeable outside the Abrites test facility. We did write many successfully but there is still failiure and this cannot be released until failiure drops to less than 10% at the very least. This means that keys are ready for both and mileage we only do V850.
4. New video of a 2023 Q3 AKL is in the works.
5. Interesting development on the new Renault platform is underway. Thankfully my aunt bought a new Dacia, sadly for her - it is in our posession.
6. Great stuff on the BMW bikes - I am putting together a new blog post on this topic.
7. Our long term customers will receive a pleasant surprise on Thursday, do not ask me more details - I am not at liberty to speak.

no 5 what ye like poor auntie lol
sort of thing we would do too

[nazz2]

Nazz2, what is your problem with the Fiat 500 Hybrid remote ?
Nothings wrong i just had 2 inquiries to add keys to a 2022 and 2023 500E. unfortunately not covered by AVDI and SP at the moment.

[qeso705]

Quick Public Service Announcement regarding the ZN085 V850/RH850 programmer so that we are all on the same page, other topics since I have been on Holiday, I came back last week and wanted to bring you up to speed on the progress:
1. Reading works great for both processor types. In case of any issues please let our support team know - new dashboards keep popping up here and there and we need those.
2. Reduced number of components to be removed is coming ASAP - we are nearly there and the next update will have a reduction of components. Eventually this will be brought to "0" components to be removed. For now it is not possible because the voltage applied is too high.
3. RH850 are still not writeable outside the Abrites test facility. We did write many successfully but there is still failiure and this cannot be released until failiure drops to less than 10% at the very least. This means that keys are ready for both and mileage we only do V850.
4. New video of a 2023 Q3 AKL is in the works.
5. Interesting development on the new Renault platform is underway. Thankfully my aunt bought a new Dacia, sadly for her - it is in our posession.
6. Great stuff on the BMW bikes - I am putting together a new blog post on this topic.
7. Our long term customers will receive a pleasant surprise on Thursday, do not ask me more details - I am not at liberty to speak.


Can you be a bit more specific without leaving space for imagination for point 3? What you mean by keys in the case when it is AKL and ECU have SHE and it is impossible to obtain CS?

[vageric]

Nothings wrong i just had 2 inquiries to add keys to a 2022 and 2023 500E. unfortunately not covered by AVDI and SP at the moment.

i have ask because i have try making one from 2021 and car start but remote work not oke.

[nazz2]

i have ask because i have try making one from 2021 and car start but remote work not oke.

I have done Fiat 500 2021 with remote working ok, but we are talking about a Hybrid one. acourding to Alek, can't be done yet.

[vageric]

I have done Fiat 500 2021 with remote working ok, but we are talking about a Hybrid one. acourding to Alek, can't be done yet.

yes the 2021 was a Hybrid

[AlekN]

Can you be a bit more specific without leaving space for imagination for point 3? What you mean by keys in the case when it is AKL and ECU have SHE and it is impossible to obtain CS?

Sure, we can write RH850 here. The problem is that it is not always successful and we need to increase the success rate. We can read and display cs from the clusters- not a thing, the problem is mileage because it requires writing but for key programming both V and RH are covered.

[gttuning]

More details would be beneficial to all, me thinks :)This was a speare key job.
2012 range rover evoque ..
I first took out Im608 but it failed to do this ..could not recognise the key when it ask to press unlock button..
So fail

Then took abrites...
Software ask you to swith ignition ON..
Then it switches ignition Off and back ON it self..
Then asking to press unlock button on the key..Once key is recognised car beeps..
Then software ask to press lock button..
Car beeps Once I pressed it..
After that smart key is successfully programmed..
This was aftermarket key..
All functions worked ok[emoji106]
Great job.[emoji106]



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[qeso705]

Sure, we can write RH850 here. The problem is that it is not always successful and we need to increase the success rate. We can read and display cs from the clusters- not a thing, the problem is mileage because it requires writing but for key programming both V and RH are covered.

You mean case when only CS from cluster is available and no SYNC file is present + ECU CS is impossible to read? AKL RH850 are supported?

[ghitab]

. We can read and display cs from the clusters- not a thing, the problem is mileage because it requires writing but for key programming both V and RH are covered.
Hi, what about rh850 with 5C system and ICU-S encrypt ? Can you find immo data from dflash?
Thanks

[whiskeyman]

Any word if your going to add newer mg
To avdi like rest of programmers out there

[AlekN]

Any word if your going to add newer mg
To avdi like rest of programmers out there
Good news, we are working on both the MG and MD ecus and we are going to add them. There are delays due to holidays and understaffing but as far as I have heard the majority of new additions will be available in October, people will start coming back from holidays and finishing their work during September, after that they will be ready for release.

[whiskeyman]

Quick Public Service Announcement regarding the ZN085 V850/RH850 programmer so that we are all on the same page, other topics since I have been on Holiday, I came back last week and wanted to bring you up to speed on the progress:
1. Reading works great for both processor types. In case of any issues please let our support team know - new dashboards keep popping up here and there and we need those.
2. Reduced number of components to be removed is coming ASAP - we are nearly there and the next update will have a reduction of components. Eventually this will be brought to "0" components to be removed. For now it is not possible because the voltage applied is too high.
3. RH850 are still not writeable outside the Abrites test facility. We did write many successfully but there is still failiure and this cannot be released until failiure drops to less than 10% at the very least. This means that keys are ready for both and mileage we only do V850.
4. New video of a 2023 Q3 AKL is in the works.
5. Interesting development on the new Renault platform is underway. Thankfully my aunt bought a new Dacia, sadly for her - it is in our posession.
6. Great stuff on the BMW bikes - I am putting together a new blog post on this topic.
7. Our long term customers will receive a pleasant surprise on Thursday, do not ask me more details - I am not at liberty to speak.

its thursday lol
i am away to add some software so will hold on just in case might get a discount for me good looks if nothing else

[u.s]

Taken from the website news page...


You can already feel the real summer is here. And so is the ABRITES Summer Jam!
What to expect in the following days?
We have prepared one-of-a-kind promotion, especially tailored to YOUR NEEDS, that will get you elevated to new heights. We will Upgrade you to the Fullest. Details soon, stay tuned!

[habbyb]

Yes , you have problems with making a dealer key?

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Thanks for the reply , I haven't bought yet rh850/v850 , another anomaly he doesn't know how to do it dealer key audi q5 from 2016 on table oem keys .

[lupu_sandu]

Nice promo Abrites Team.
At least i see old customers get a good deal.

[achaccha]

Are you referring to the promotion that abrites recently released?
FIRST ABRITES SUMMER JAM - GET READY!

[Spiritech]

Are you referring to the promotion that abrites recently released?
FIRST ABRITES SUMMER JAM - GET READY!

Yep, it's a promo specifically for existing owners. Send them your interface serial number and they send you a price to upgrade to full everything. Addresses one of the concerns people have had with existing users not getting good deals.

[AlekN]

I am happy you guys are seeing the positive and the fact that this summer we aim to do as much as we can for our existing customers.

[qeso705]

I am happy you guys are seeing the positive and the fact that this summer we aim to do as much as we can for our existing customers.

Can I ask you third time to send precise answer on my question which is based most likely on fake statements from you/your company?

Second thing is that new great license BA dst dont cover some of systems.

[gttuning]

Yep, it's a promo specifically for existing owners. Send them your interface serial number and they send you a price to upgrade to full everything. Addresses one of the concerns people have had with existing users not getting good deals.Not full everything sir..
Only for cars...
So for example trucks is not included in this offer..
So to avoid disappointment you better ask what licences will you be missing after using this promo...
Just my advice...


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[AlekN]

Can I ask you third time to send precise answer on my question which is based most likely on fake statements from you/your company?

Second thing is that new great license BA dst dont cover some of systems.

Certainly, Sir. We have a program where you send an unsupported smart system at our expense and we return it supported with a programmed master key. Of course you have to wait but this is the cost of being at the very edge of new development.
There are billions of Toyota models and smart systems and we cannot guarantee that we will have 100% coverage, what is important is that we know how to add them.
This is the only tool in the world which can perform key programming and ID code box reset (module replacement) by OBD.

[AlekN]

Not full everything sir..
Only for cars...
So for example trucks is not included in this offer..
So to avoid disappointment you better ask what licences will you be missing after using this promo...
Just my advice...


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Hi, yes, the trucks are not included because not all people work on them, but please do not think this is in order to deceit you. the goal is not to add load where it is not needed. the same ( not sure) would apply to Key inspector because it is not something people use a lot (it is specific to law enforcement and insurance companies). So why upsell you to something you do not use. Let it be known that if anyone needs the software that is not included they can certainly ask the sales team for them.

[gttuning]

Hi, yes, the trucks are not included because not all people work on them, but please do not think this is in order to deceit you. the goal is not to add load where it is not needed. the same ( not sure) would apply to Key inspector because it is not something people use a lot (it is specific to law enforcement and insurance companies). So why upsell you to something you do not use. Let it be known that if anyone needs the software that is not included they can certainly ask the sales team for them.Great explanation Alek[emoji106]
I referred to post above ..full full update...

That's why i said cars only.. check what will be missing to avoid disappointment..[emoji16]..as some looked like didn't read exactly..whats in the offer...

Nice that abrites come with a offer like that for long abrites customers..


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[lush29]

I just got an offer from Kapdiagnostic to full only 20% off is that all? Thought there would be more discount?!!!
Ps : my license at the moment is at 74% , so 12k pounds 20% off is 10k .

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[qeso705]

Certainly, Sir. We have a program where you send an unsupported smart system at our expense and we return it supported with a programmed master key. Of course you have to wait but this is the cost of being at the very edge of new development.
There are billions of Toyota models and smart systems and we cannot guarantee that we will have 100% coverage, what is important is that we know how to add them.
This is the only tool in the world which can perform key programming and ID code box reset (module replacement) by OBD.


BA dst not working was just to make clear for customers that your solution works only partially again and was not deep tested but as usual top priced. I asked you third time, now fourth time to make clear statement about your point 3 "key programming for V850 and RH850" which indicate that AKL are supported too. What with case when ECU have SHE and it is impossible to retrieve CS from it?

PS What type of additional subscription need be present to get such service(module shipped to company)? What when someone is outside EU? Why is not mentioned anywhere that coverage is only partially?

PPS Abritus dont have even full coverage of old MQB cluster immo decode, because when license was already sold and is no more new demand then no one cares. Maybe you have better explanation?

[AlekN]

I just got an offer from Kapdiagnostic to full only 20% off is that all? Thought there would be more discount?!!!
Ps : my license at the moment is at 74% , so 12k pounds 20% off is 10k .

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Do you think you can perhaps DM me the interface number and I will double check with our sales team, I assume it was correct, though.

[AlekN]

BA dst not working was just to make clear for customers that your solution works only partially again and was not deep tested but as usual top priced. I asked you third time, now fourth time to make clear statement about your point 3 "key programming for V850 and RH850" which indicate that AKL are supported too. What with case when ECU have SHE and it is impossible to retrieve CS from it?

PS What type of additional subscription need be present to get such service(module shipped to company)? What when someone is outside EU? Why is not mentioned anywhere that coverage is only partially?

PPS Abritus dont have even full coverage of old MQB cluster immo decode, because when license was already sold and is no more new demand then no one cares. Maybe you have better explanation?

Yes, the solution is to send the module but let's just make it clear that hundreds of people a day work on Toyotas and Lexuses and a very small percent of these people have trouble where we try first via teamviewer and then if not possible we ask for the module.
The Non- EU argument - our world is so globalized that you can send anything everywhere (I recently sent 40 kg of wheels to the USA for 400 EURO). Yes, it takes time but there is nothing else on the table.
MQBs are all supported, after next week we will be able to shoot a video with a Q3 AKL 2023 - we have the support and we have the skillset. Please try to discuss perticular issues without generalization.
Here are the statistics - we find 2-3 unsupported Toyota and we barely have any unsupported dashes for MQB. We just added yet another RH850 dash tested yesterday.
Please tell me a particular issue I can look into your interaction with support, perhaps there is something we could have done better.

[lush29]

Thank you AlekN , DM send
Do you think you can perhaps DM me the interface number and I will double check with our sales team, I assume it was correct, though.

[qeso705]

Yes, the solution is to send the module but let's just make it clear that hundreds of people a day work on Toyotas and Lexuses and a very small percent of these people have trouble where we try first via teamviewer and then if not possible we ask for the module.
The Non- EU argument - our world is so globalized that you can send anything everywhere (I recently sent 40 kg of wheels to the USA for 400 EURO). Yes, it takes time but there is nothing else on the table.
MQBs are all supported, after next week we will be able to shoot a video with a Q3 AKL 2023 - we have the support and we have the skillset. Please try to discuss perticular issues without generalization.
Here are the statistics - we find 2-3 unsupported Toyota and we barely have any unsupported dashes for MQB. We just added yet another RH850 dash tested yesterday.
Please tell me a particular issue I can look into your interaction with support, perhaps there is something we could have done better.


You again didnt answer on part of questions. Your company dont allow even report a bug without valid special subscriptions, its reason why I doubt that even when I pay 3k eur for licenses which dont work customer get "free shipping" etc.

Issue number one:
I bought interface from your company at the beginning, get life time free updates declaration. Where they are?

Issue number two:
I reported not matching descriptions of function and some bugs to support. Interface blacklisted. Confirmed skilled peopel in your team in resolving troubles and focusing on true issues.

As I understand my case is completely exception and you will have not any trouble to get it resolved. Additional your company cover my lost money for interface and lost money for jobs which I should be able to do when I have working interface?


Can you describe step by step procedure for AKL 2023 car RH850 car? Which additional license it require and any third partie services?

[AlekN]

1. No, you only have to have SPS for how to questions, not reporting a bug. Of course we have support when you have issues, we do not charge for that.
2. Yes, that is not possible. At the time Abrites was 15 people, it is now 150 people with new development every day, each customer with AMS gets a ton of licenses for free. Your phone is not endlessly updated, either.
3. Now I am curious - why was your interface blacklisted? May I ask you to share the number of your interface to check and share all the details because we see your accusation but we do not have an ability to defend ourselves?
4. I have described it, I have described the licenses in my weekly blog - please read it here: https://abrites.com/blog NOTHING third party is needed.


You again didnt answer on part of questions. Your company dont allow even report a bug without valid special subscriptions, its reason why I doubt that even when I pay 3k eur for licenses which dont work customer get "free shipping" etc.

Issue number one:
I bought interface from your company at the beginning, get life time free updates declaration. Where they are?

Issue number two:
I reported not matching descriptions of function and some bugs to support. Interface blacklisted. Confirmed skilled peopel in your team in resolving troubles and focusing on true issues.

As I understand my case is completely exception and you will have not any trouble to get it resolved. Additional your company cover my lost money for interface and lost money for jobs which I should be able to do when I have working interface?


Can you describe step by step procedure for AKL 2023 car RH850 car? Which additional license it require and any third partie services?

[qeso705]

1. No, you only have to have SPS for how to questions, not reporting a bug. Of course we have support when you have issues, we do not charge for that.
2. Yes, that is not possible. At the time Abrites was 15 people, it is now 150 people with new development every day, each customer with AMS gets a ton of licenses for free. Your phone is not endlessly updated, either.
3. Now I am curious - why was your interface blacklisted? May I ask you to share the number of your interface to check and share all the details because we see your accusation but we do not have an ability to defend ourselves?
4. I have described it, I have described the licenses in my weekly blog - please read it here: https://abrites.com/blog NOTHING third party is needed.

1)Why so much users report that they are ignored even with reporting bug without valid SPS?

2)Its really nice that company grow at cost cheated customers. Can you explain me why it should be not possible to keep promises? When I hire more peopel I can tell leasing or bank that our contract is not more valid because I hire too much peopel and I dont plan pay my obligations which was clearly in contract? Regarding your discussion arguments, I never seen a phone which was advertised that will be life time updated.

3)No, ask 15 peopel who started this company for the list of cheated peopel. Not sure they are able to remember everyone as more likely it was much more as 150 peopel employed there(really doubt this number or 130 are hired for PR).

4)Currently I know only 2 peopel using this "tool" and amount of troubles present there is insane.

5)How long now is warranted life cycle of Abritus products? What is value of any warranty from this company? Some brave peopel who buy full license now, can be a bit dissapointed after year or two.

6)Either you or I am missing some basics. I ask you 4 times about AKL for V850/RH850 to clarify situation when it is impossible to extract CS from ECU. In your blog is writed:"In terms of VAG clusters we support both analogue clusters with physical needles and Virtual Cockpits. Let me just take a moment to discuss key programming in MQB, particularly all keys lost as this is a major topic. You know how some tools give you something they call sync files. These files are taken directly from the VAG database and contain all needed Component Security bytes per the vehicle’s VIN. This is “thin ice” and we do not want to do that because the databases are not available freely and using them causes dangers for the company. We are not about that. The modules you need the CS from in order to program a key are ECU, TCU, ELV (if the car is manual) and MOST IMPORTANTLY Cluster. We can help with basically all these modules other than the ELV. This is a thing nobody can do for you at this time.

If you gather all these CSs you are good to do all keys lost. There are many conditions – locked crypto cores of ECU processors, etc. But in general, we can help with all but ELV Component Security."

I partially understand your position, you work for company which have in DNA cheating peopel but as we seen you didnt change job and you post a lot misleading informations what should be banned here as it is not advert channel.

[lush29]

Do you think you can perhaps DM me the interface number and I will double check with our sales team, I assume it was correct, though.Thanks for your help today. Very good offer to update to full for existing customers.

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[rapidlocksmiths]

If abrites now has 10 times the staff numbers than it did , on top of the ams revenues and the sps revenues that this means alot more bug fixing , alot more software with issues like ford being fixed and alot of new coverage , after all with alot more staff and funds its all in place to make this happen.

i do think we sometimes batter abrites where its not deserved , however , where advertising promises something it should deliver , free updates for life was false advertising , it was my reason for buying at the time , free suburu software for all with valid ams removed a year later , i could go on does deserve to be pulled up on , promises and advertising should always be honoured and theres no valid excuse to break advertised promises , unclear marketing also hasnt helped the cause, nor does the removal of offline software people purchased from you , and of course some of the strokes the company pulled in the past , these are key to the bad feeling and negative views of many long term customers here and elsewhere.

you have an uphill struggle to turn these around , i hope you succeed as i would like all to be positive and the past left in the past , but we are a way off this point still , but i wish you luck in this its a hard road .

congrats on the blogs and the videos , these are a positive as will improvements to manuals be going forward , its not all negatives there are some positives that offer hope of a better future between us , clear honest marketting without smoke mirrors and marketting puff would also be a welcome change , rome wasnt built in a day .

[whiskeyman]

well got quoted about 7 grand to have full software
bit too much for my income in this declining market at moment
this deal aint new as i remember a few years ago they offered full avdi for 10 grand
for new members

[martinez9049]

I’ve only been with Abrites for 3.5 years and have full MB, Porsche, JLR, and half BMW and VAG. Was quoted 20k for full. It doesn’t sound like much of a discount…

[Fallen]

I am happy you guys are seeing the positive and the fact that this summer we aim to do as much as we can for our existing customers.

It's like kids who are excited the night before X-mas, they want to know what Santa has brought them.
Unfortunately it appears that Abritus has just wrapped up a turd for us!

Nice on Abritus, you never fail to disappoint.

[lush29]

well got quoted about 7 grand to have full software
bit too much for my income in this declining market at moment
this deal aint new as i remember a few years ago they offered full avdi for 10 grand
for new membersThe deal this month is 60%-70% off. Mine to update to full was 12k now I pay 5k so can't go wrong there on long term. But depends on what you have until now

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[AlekN]

well got quoted about 7 grand to have full software
bit too much for my income in this declining market at moment
this deal aint new as i remember a few years ago they offered full avdi for 10 grand
for new members

I completely understand, as you know the promo is based on the amount of existing licenses and if you want me to double confirm I can do that. Just DM me the interface number.
If by "a few" you mean exactly 10 (October of 2013) for the Equip Auto in Paris. We had just started going to big shows and we needed to be noticed. Who would have known that it would be a subject of conversation 10 years on.

[AlekN]

Why so much users report that they are ignored even with reporting bug without valid SPS?
- I urge anyone to come forward and give me details of an ignored case. This is not happening! Your claims are ridiculous and this is why you are not proving them

2)Its really nice that company grow at cost cheated customers. Can you explain me why it should be not possible to keep promises? When I hire more peopel I can tell leasing or bank that our contract is not more valid because I hire too much peopel and I dont plan pay my obligations which was clearly in contract? Regarding your discussion arguments, I never seen a phone which was advertised that will be life time updated.

- Please tell me where you have been cheating anyone. This is a ridiculous claim, we are at max 10% of our competitors yet we achieve a lot more than anyone. From a small company in Bulgaria of all places to partners in 50+ countries and three offices worldwide.
The fact that you have to spend an extra 300 Euro a year to get security and online services beyond your PC's wildest dreams. Nothing of ours can ever be copied ever again and we are doing this for us and for you.

3)No, ask 15 peopel who started this company for the list of cheated peopel. Not sure they are able to remember everyone as more likely it was much more as 150 peopel employed there(really doubt this number or 130 are hired for PR).
- Go on, tell me how I am part of the PR. Please do. I live and breathe Abrites. This company has allowed me to be more than a man of my intelligence could ever dream of. I know where my integrity comes from.

4)Currently I know only 2 peopel using this "tool" and amount of troubles present there is insane.
- I need to know more FACTS, what you have is claims. Please present facts.

5)How long now is warranted life cycle of Abritus products? What is value of any warranty from this company? Some brave peopel who buy full license now, can be a bit dissapointed after year or two.
2 years, that is the warranty. EU mandate.

6)Either you or I am missing some basics. I ask you 4 times about AKL for V850/RH850 to clarify situation when it is impossible to extract CS from ECU. In your blog is writed:"In terms of VAG clusters we support both analogue clusters with physical needles and Virtual Cockpits. Let me just take a moment to discuss key programming in MQB, particularly all keys lost as this is a major topic. You know how some tools give you something they call sync files. These files are taken directly from the VAG database and contain all needed Component Security bytes per the vehicle’s VIN. This is “thin ice” and we do not want to do that because the databases are not available freely and using them causes dangers for the company. We are not about that. The modules you need the CS from in order to program a key are ECU, TCU, ELV (if the car is manual) and MOST IMPORTANTLY Cluster. We can help with basically all these modules other than the ELV. This is a thing nobody can do for you at this time.

If you gather all these CSs you are good to do all keys lost. There are many conditions – locked crypto cores of ECU processors, etc. But in general, we can help with all but ELV Component Security."

I partially understand your position, you work for company which have in DNA cheating peopel but as we seen you didnt change job and you post a lot misleading informations what should be banned here as it is not advert channel.

- Yes, basics are being missed. I do not aim to advertise, I have been here for over 10 years just to help.

[AlekN]

Neither do you and your attempts at sarcasm.
Please tell me, Fallen. What do I need to do to satisfy your needs?
What company has a person who takes their time to talk to anyone like a human being? Maybe Bosch, Xhorse, Autohex, Autel have people like me on forums?
Maybe they have a person who goes and analyses everything people are unhappy with. Please - tell me how I can make you happy.


It's like kids who are excited the night before X-mas, they want to know what Santa has brought them.
Unfortunately it appears that Abritus has just wrapped up a turd for us!

Nice on Abritus, you never fail to disappoint.

[AlekN]

I am with you. I am following. I know that we can basically do most of what we are with 10 people but this means going deeper underground as JK once said. The reality is that growth requires us to do that.
Ford is a topic I hate and I have discussed this. The story sounds unreal so I will not tell it but the project went through sabotage.
We will do all we can, we have new people for this and the big boss man, who is a developer himself are working on FORD/ MAZDA.
The situation is so much different to what 15 years ago was.
I also want to build a relationship based on trust and have been proving myself as an honest man with good intentions not lead only by the desire to sell you software and hardware but also help out. Of course I want you to buy stuff but this is far from my only reason.


If abrites now has 10 times the staff numbers than it did , on top of the ams revenues and the sps revenues that this means alot more bug fixing , alot more software with issues like ford being fixed and alot of new coverage , after all with alot more staff and funds its all in place to make this happen.

i do think we sometimes batter abrites where its not deserved , however , where advertising promises something it should deliver , free updates for life was false advertising , it was my reason for buying at the time , free suburu software for all with valid ams removed a year later , i could go on does deserve to be pulled up on , promises and advertising should always be honoured and theres no valid excuse to break advertised promises , unclear marketing also hasnt helped the cause, nor does the removal of offline software people purchased from you , and of course some of the strokes the company pulled in the past , these are key to the bad feeling and negative views of many long term customers here and elsewhere.

you have an uphill struggle to turn these around , i hope you succeed as i would like all to be positive and the past left in the past , but we are a way off this point still , but i wish you luck in this its a hard road .

congrats on the blogs and the videos , these are a positive as will improvements to manuals be going forward , its not all negatives there are some positives that offer hope of a better future between us , clear honest marketting without smoke mirrors and marketting puff would also be a welcome change , rome wasnt built in a day .

[whiskeyman]

I completely understand, as you know the promo is based on the amount of existing licenses and if you want me to double confirm I can do that. Just DM me the interface number.
If by "a few" you mean exactly 10 (October of 2013) for the Equip Auto in Paris. We had just started going to big shows and we needed to be noticed. Who would have known that it would be a subject of conversation 10 years on.

I completely understand, as you know the promo is based on the amount of existing licenses and if you want me to double confirm I can do that. Just DM me the interface number.
If by "a few" you mean exactly 10 (October of 2013) for the Equip Auto in Paris. We had just started going to big shows and we needed to be noticed. Who would have known that it would be a subject of conversation 10 years on.

the joy of getting old all i have is memorys lol
AVDI still my goto tool and i added a wee add on this week
MG ford psa and renault all i seem to be getting asked for at the minute
think we all go through phases of certain cars all at the same time

vag stuff mqb lost having to chase third partys for data just too much hassle for me
i like a one stop trip in and out
hence why i just get them to get dealer keys and use odis

merc played out with the whole fbs4 so just old cars we can do
bmw keys from dealer still pretty cheap for original keys and next day in your hand usually
plus already programmed so for me i dont really bother with that

so i personally do the bread and butter and odd eprom job now

this game changes rapidly think most want a tool that does the job as near 100% as possible
does not have to be ground breaking new stuff just reliable and first tool we grab to hand and have faith
faith in a tool speaks volumes

speaking about a tool or product good or bad regardless generates interest and keeps the tool alive
like any good politician will tell you all media is good in some respect

as for the reporting bugs
not sure what like it is now but years ago it was not worth a damn
hence why i gave it up was not worth the time and effort

can only wish you all the best and hopefully we all make a good enough living and have our health

[rapidlocksmiths]

I am with you. I am following. I know that we can basically do most of what we are with 10 people but this means going deeper underground as JK once said. The reality is that growth requires us to do that.
Ford is a topic I hate and I have discussed this. The story sounds unreal so I will not tell it but the project went through sabotage.
We will do all we can, we have new people for this and the big boss man, who is a developer himself are working on FORD/ MAZDA.
The situation is so much different to what 15 years ago was.
I also want to build a relationship based on trust and have been proving myself as an honest man with good intentions not lead only by the desire to sell you software and hardware but also help out. Of course I want you to buy stuff but this is far from my only reason.

AlekN , its like we are in a transition period , the new positives do still get overshadowed by the past , posibly well before your time , but to those on the recieving end its not so easily forgiven and forgoten , thus why its an uphill struggle , 2 steps forward and 1 back , the past tends to haunt us all .

If you had been on the recieving end of some of the past strokes and false ads you would no doubt think differently and have a better understanding on why some feel the way they do , i hate to think how many have invested elsewhere due to this and how much bigger and better abrites may have been now had they played with a straight bat in the past.

you have been a positive to date , as said videos and blogs are helpful and good , your answering questions and doing best to resolve issues online has been a big positive , so it is appreciated , though still the past clouds the positives , you cannot change things alone , abrites need to drive change and mend the fractures of the past , this deal for existing customers is a positive i think , im not 100% sure yet as i sent a request for details with my avdi id on saturday and still heard nothing yet , so i suspect busy with enquiries, but still nice to see something aimed at existing customers like me with over 45k already invested in avdi over the many years and still here despite the past upsets. when i look at what i have invested already and what few licences i dont have i wonder if i would buy the full , like others i have bought coverage elsewhere too and what i dont have i dont miss , so would need to be a special deal , i will know when i recieve the price from sales.

keep up the good work , i know the negatives will dampen your mood online , but understanding why these negatives are still raw may make it understable , it takes years to build trust but seconds to lose it and even longer to regain it , but if abrites act more like you have then you may make strides and achieve the impossible , its down to abrites to change and rebuild relations with old customers .

when you break things down , the vast majority of the negatives you read are not about the tool or software , most are about the past actions , marketting and false advertising many years ago that caused the bad feeling and distrust , all of which im sure abrites could find a way to fix , the tool and software issues that do exist are small in comparison when you read most of the negatives .

Keep up the good work and good luck going forward.

[qeso705]

AlekN I dont see even half reason why I should spend my time to show obvious errors which make this company. Your company sell me a tool and licenses which didnt worked as advertised with lifetime free update promise. After reporting distipancies between licenses functions and true possibility when I pointed what is to fix(either just remove fake description or add functionality) I was blacklisted as customer and device did go to black list + mandatory payable SPS was introduced. You still ask where is cheating from your company. Tell maybe this story to third person and ask how it looks because you are missing perspective.

Only reason why I am sometimes active in this topic is to make any new customers to remember what is this company DNA. For me you are here to make a bit warmer picture of this company and send half truth between lines like point 6. In my opininon any discussion about "Full" which is in Abritus half true style are our of topic too. Additional company itself claim that warranted life cycle of product is 2 years:) It like buying 30K car which after 2 years maybe will still by me fully driving or not. Because interface with disabled server function will have value below 100eur/usd.

Stories about not possible to copy solution please leave for kids, because first, Abritus team is heavy responsible for release very weak secured devices at the beginning which did lead to Chinese come in to this play faster and devastate this market and second, fake impression, that not possible to copy make secure investment for customers dont mean not possible to easy reproduce.

When you are curious what Abritus did in the past please read post by post and try fit it in your alternative world. For me you either dont understand what is sayed or you will not understand. In both cases it is not good signature for you.

ABRITES ..the untrustworthy company! [Sitemap] - Digital Kaos (digital-kaos.co.uk) (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/archive/index.php/t-686269.html)
what the f..k is abritus doing? [Sitemap] - Digital Kaos (digital-kaos.co.uk) (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/archive/index.php/t-375395.html)

[whiskeyman]

oh one more thing to add about the upgrade package and avdi full etc
as much as it is tempting whats the point when most can pay 800 pounds get these passthru devices which a few companys do
(not naming devices) and have avdi full for this price?
has this been addressed yet?

[fred77]

AlekN I dont see even half reason why I should spend my time to show obvious errors which make this company. Your company sell me a tool and licenses which didnt worked as advertised with lifetime free update promise. After reporting distipancies between licenses functions and true possibility when I pointed what is to fix(either just remove fake description or add functionality) I was blacklisted as customer and device did go to black list + mandatory payable SPS was introduced. You still ask where is cheating from your company. Tell maybe this story to third person and ask how it looks because you are missing perspective.

Only reason why I am sometimes active in this topic is to make any new customers to remember what is this company DNA. For me you are here to make a bit warmer picture of this company and send half truth between lines like point 6. In my opininon any discussion about "Full" which is in Abritus half true style are our of topic too. Additional company itself claim that warranted life cycle of product is 2 years:) It like buying 30K car which after 2 years maybe will still by me fully driving or not. Because interface with disabled server function will have value below 100eur/usd.

Stories about not possible to copy solution please leave for kids, because first, Abritus team is heavy responsible for release very weak secured devices at the beginning which did lead to Chinese come in to this play faster and devastate this market and second, fake impression, that not possible to copy make secure investment for customers dont mean not possible to easy reproduce.

When you are curious what Abritus did in the past please read post by post and try fit it in your alternative world. For me you either dont understand what is sayed or you will not understand. In both cases it is not good signature for you.

ABRITES ..the untrustworthy company! [Sitemap] - Digital Kaos (digital-kaos.co.uk) (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/archive/index.php/t-686269.html)
what the f..k is abritus doing? [Sitemap] - Digital Kaos (digital-kaos.co.uk) (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/archive/index.php/t-375395.html)


lol your on a forum which has countless threads on china AVDI clones lol
where do u think xhorse started from

Your gunna be disappointed with other tools they all have issues and wanta rip money from you

why don't you try making money instead of moan
or go back to your day job :)

[Fallen]

Neither do you and your attempts at sarcasm.
Please tell me, Fallen. What do I need to do to satisfy your needs?
What company has a person who takes their time to talk to anyone like a human being? Maybe Bosch, Xhorse, Autohex, Autel have people like me on forums?
Maybe they have a person who goes and analyses everything people are unhappy with. Please - tell me how I can make you happy.

Don't have a problem with you at all AlekN, I have a problem with the company you represent.
Your questing should be, how can Abritus make me happy.

How about Abritus honour the promise they made to many of us about free updates for life?
This deal sold AVDI to many of us here and gave them the capital to grow and become who they are today.
After that deal was changed to payed updates, customers who bought the interface AFTER that, KNOWING should have to pay, NOT the customers who helped build Abritus.
This is why Abritus will never have a loyal client base, ones who continue to be vocal about it, the company is built on a LIE.

How about a layered discount structure, because we all know Abritus will never honour the lifetime update.
The longer you have owned the tool, the cheaper new modules get?
At the moment, new buyers get free modules that we had to pay for years ago.
Abritus are rewarding new clients, not the ones who made them.

How about refunding licenses bought that were taken away?
Anybody else bought key renew software that got taken away to name one.

How about Abritus stop lying about what each of the new modules can do?
So many modules have been sold because they can do ALL of whatever they are supposed to do.
Slowly, as this gets tested in the real world, it becomes apparent that is not the case and it can only do SOME of what is promised.
By then, it's too late, people have bought the software.
I won't buy any new modules for months after the release to make sure it actually works.
Toyota 4C by OBD was one that springs to mind.

How about Abritus stop jiggling the licenses so old modules that work now need new licenses to work again?
Porsche key programming now needing key inspector? Why?

How about Abritus actually head out on the road with a few locksmiths and spend some time in the real world doing jobs to see what it's like?
I can't wait for the next AVDIFAN video where he is in a carpark with no internet coverage just staring at his computer screen wondering why it doesn't work.
How about they build into their software an option to harvest the data and then process it outside like other tools do?

Lets start with those.

[fred77]

Don't have a problem with you at all AlekN, I have a problem with the company you represent.
Your questing should be, how can Abritus make me happy.

How about Abritus honour the promise they made to many of us about free updates for life?
This deal sold AVDI to many of us here and gave them the capital to grow and become who they are today.
After that deal was changed to payed updates, customers who bought the interface AFTER that, KNOWING should have to pay, NOT the customers who helped build Abritus.
This is why Abritus will never have a loyal client base, ones who continue to be vocal about it, the company is built on a LIE.

How about a layered discount structure, because we all know Abritus will never honour the lifetime update.
The longer you have owned the tool, the cheaper new modules get?
At the moment, new buyers get free modules that we had to pay for years ago.
Abritus are rewarding new clients, not the ones who made them.

How about refunding licenses bought that were taken away?
Anybody else bought key renew software that got taken away to name one.

How about Abritus stop lying about what each of the new modules can do?
So many modules have been sold because they can do ALL of whatever they are supposed to do.
Slowly, as this gets tested in the real world, it becomes apparent that is not the case and it can only do SOME of what is promised.
By then, it's too late, people have bought the software.
I won't buy any new modules for months after the release to make sure it actually works.
Toyota 4C by OBD was one that springs to mind.

How about Abritus stop jiggling the licenses so old modules that work now need new licenses to work again?
Porsche key programming now needing key inspector? Why?

How about Abritus actually head out on the road with a few locksmiths and spend some time in the real world doing jobs to see what it's like?
I can't wait for the next AVDIFAN video where he is in a carpark with no internet coverage just staring at his computer screen wondering why it doesn't work.
How about they build into their software an option to harvest the data and then process it outside like other tools do?

Lets start with those.


Not anything you say is false but always thought of you also as bit of a dick mate

For F**K sake if u don't like the tool go buy elsewhere OR buy clone
(AND why Abrites clones if so crap lol)

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[Fallen]

Not anything you say is false but always thought of you also as bit of a dick mate

For F**K sake if u don't like the tool go buy elsewhere OR buy clone
(AND why Abrites clones if so crap lol)

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Hi Fred, once again I'm hear to remind you that you can take a spoon and eat my arse champion.

[rapidlocksmiths]

The new video on restoring the cas unit will be very helpful for many im sure , nice work . for key programmers especially those new to avdi, new to trade or new to bmw cas systems its here https://youtu.be/qXuMxC6pv74
may help alot of the newer guys going forward who get in this situation.

[gttuning]

Audi A3 2012 dash micromas ..
ZN60 fail.
By obd fail

Won't read cluster stuck on some random address ..

I read microns with smok and eeprom with xprog.
Open cluster ..
Used option immo data by micronas dump..
Load eeprom ok
Load micronas data ok.
Immo data displayd ok.

Pressed make dealer/add key.
It adds key to pos.3 but won't start.
So fail key learning.

Had to go out from cluster and go to key learning ..
Add key there successfully..

I'm writing this because this bug is there for years now.....I had reported this befor ..I'm sure I'm not the only one in the world that had akl on audi a3 ..
Still not fix!..

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[gttuning]

Alek there is some things from past that you can't argue..you know that and we all know that..
Is just you r not in a position to admit this as you work for abrites..so this is obvious..

Like my self...
-I bought abrites with life time free updates..
-I had my key learning for subaru evapurate also.
-kia hyundai update was a complete lie few years back when it should read pin from tucson edc17 ..it doesn't do that untill today..

-I tryed to report bugs to be repaired and make effort to improve this tool but abrites fail to do this ..with me anyway ..only email back I got more less is "we keep you inform etc"
And so on ...

but maybe adres this issues to managment of abrites ? Maybe you did already but I'm afraid that dose customers that had experience these bad times ..you will have this on the tow rope for ever behind you...
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[Spiritech]

The new video on restoring the cas unit will be very helpful for many im sure , nice work . for key programmers especially those new to avdi, new to trade or new to bmw cas systems its here https://youtu.be/qXuMxC6pv74
may help alot of the newer guys going forward who get in this situation.

Would have been good if a few years ago support staff(I had active SPS at the time) told me to do this rather than just saying 'OBD kicked, not our fault'. Learned the hard way how to recover it on the bench myself.

[qeso705]

Not anything you say is false but always thought of you also as bit of a dick mate

For F**K sake if u don't like the tool go buy elsewhere OR buy clone
(AND why Abrites clones if so crap lol)

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Can you tell us that advertise half truth here and scammed a lot of users dont fit in "AVDI PROBLEMS"? Maybe send to some scammer in Nigeria 10K, advise your friend to do the same. After a while when scammer post thread "NEW NIGERIA PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS ONLY THREAD" to make warmer image only, look twice at person like you who will defend him, because in other regions are scammers too. Hard to argue with facts and best way is to change direction of conversation.

[Spiritech]

Audi A3 2012 dash micromas ..
ZN60 fail.
By obd fail

Won't read cluster stuck on some random address ..

I read microns with smok and eeprom with xprog.
Open cluster ..
Used option immo data by micronas dump..
Load eeprom ok
Load micronas data ok.
Immo data displayd ok.

Pressed make dealer/add key.
It adds key to pos.3 but won't start.
So fail key learning.

Had to go out from cluster and go to key learning ..
Add key there successfully..

I'm writing this because this bug is there for years now.....I had reported this befor ..I'm sure I'm not the only one in the world that had akl on audi a3 ..
Still not fix!..

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Pretty sure none of the pogo pin solutions from any supplier support the variant of the Micronas firmware in the 8P A3 dashboard man. There's the solution you used by reading eeprom + Micronas, and the service mode eeprom solution used by xhorse. Willing to be proved wrong though, if someone knows a solution that does work on those dashboards.

[qeso705]

Pretty sure none of the pogo pin solutions from any supplier support the variant of the Micronas firmware in the 8P A3 dashboard man. There's the solution you used by reading eeprom + Micronas, and the service mode eeprom solution used by xhorse. Willing to be proved wrong though, if someone knows a solution that does work on those dashboards.

Which tools you have?

[Spiritech]

Which tools you have?


Many! Supervag, smart pro and launch are the ones I carry with the ability to pogo pin dashboards daily. And definitely none of them support the 8P A3 cluster, Supervag's application list even shows it's not supported. I used to have AVDI in my previous job and I never got that working on one of these Audi 8P Micronas dashes either. In fact between Supervag, smart pro and AVDI the AVDI had the worst coverage, many Tiguan dashboards it couldn't gain security to service mode with pogo pin where other tools would. I usually do the xhorse service mode and patch the micronas with the dash in the car now to get a read off these to do a key.

[gttuning]

Pretty sure none of the pogo pin solutions from any supplier support the variant of the Micronas firmware in the 8P A3 dashboard man. There's the solution you used by reading eeprom + Micronas, and the service mode eeprom solution used by xhorse. Willing to be proved wrong though, if someone knows a solution that does work on those dashboards.If it doesn't work ..then remove this from software ..give people refund for zn60 that bought for this job..
and job done...


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[mjoesen]

After year 2009 on A3 I take out ecu and read it on bench. Avdi have this option to, but I do not have this license. Does it say that zn60 work on Akl after 2009 on A3?

[AlekN]

I need a dashboard like that sent to me, I wrote about it weeks ago, maybe 2 months ago. Please, please, please send me a 2010 A3 dash UK spec. These are different and I need it too

[rapidlocksmiths]

plenty of 2008 to 2012 a3 dashboards on ebay between £50 and £80 , i cant see a customer allowing anyone to remove the dash for a period of time , when keys lost they want car back on the road now .

today avdi failed on a 2017 citroen dispatch , used other kit , but i think it was down to bad internet area as done loads of peugeot expert on that year without issue , interestingly citroen dispatch does not appear in the menus , only jumper or peugeot expert

[askkey]

Today I failed to read the immo data via AVDI over OBD for adding a key on a PQ 2011-2012 A3 Micronas dash. The car is LHD and EU market (France was the country of export I believe) so the issue is not only with UK cars.

As gttuning (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/348469-gttuning) said, during reading it is stuck in some random address "x0710" or something similar. I did not do a printscreen sadly. I have had that issue for years now but I could've sworn that a long time ago the function was working fine. So at one time a bug broke the software and no one has fixed it in years.

Alek if that is not an indicator that AVDI has problems with bug reporting then I don't know what is. It is a relatively common car and yet no one is reporting a bug via e-mail ? That is a bit hard to believe. Either people stopped reporting buggs because they lost hope in them ever being fixed, or the bugs are being reported but the software team is not doing anything in which case you have bigger problems to deal with. Either way you have work to do because as far as I am aware getting good feedback and bug reports is kind of importand for software development.

I am asking because I did not try in a long time, but are we able to file a ticket when we encounter an issue with just an AMS and without the SPS ? Because if you can't, then the argument that the SPS is only for those that need help on how to use the software doesn't hold water.

PS. VVDI2 read the immo data and programmed the spare key in less than 2 minutes

[cl55]

obviously my situation is completely unrelated to reading dashboards, but I had problems reading the engine ecu CRD3 via OBD, my old dell d630 (win7) stopped the reading process several times, another laptop with win10, i7, 8gb ram completed the process successfully from the first time in the same car and in the same AVDI device, only the laptops were different ...

[habbyb]

I need a dashboard like that sent to me, I wrote about it weeks ago, maybe 2 months ago. Please, please, please send me a 2010 A3 dash UK spec. These are different and I need it too
you must admit don't be surprised he was left behind in the group VAG and MQB I'll tell you why ,,, I recently had golf 5 from 2009 with dash micronas AKL situation AVDI he couldn't do it , don't be surprised AUTEL he only did it on OBD in 3 min. for which I paid several thousand abaut 6K for vag I thought it was the coolest to group VAG I was wrong and I'm very sorry because I made a bad investment , by the way the internet is full with dash audi a 3 from 2009-2014

[gttuning]

I need a dashboard like that sent to me, I wrote about it weeks ago, maybe 2 months ago. Please, please, please send me a 2010 A3 dash UK spec. These are different and I need it tooAlek this is perfect answer you have put here why abrites don't fix bugs..and all reports about this micronas issue was a complete waste of my time and many others...

You your self is aware of this problem ..correct?.
Yes.
What abrites done to fix this ?.Nothing!.

So the problem in this case is abrites won't spent 80 f..en euros to fix a known issue..
This is ridiculous!.

So now as we know exactly why this bug is not fix ..what is your plan to fix it? Just wondering.

Please take to account that any bug in the software me as company wasting my time figured out what is wrong..then write email.. sent logs..then respond to emails ..and possibly not finish the job if no othere tools...

That can take hours for us trade people..to actually make effort to report a bug..

And reading this answer that you waiting for dash to be sent..its a complete joke ...
Even if the dash would cost 1000euro its abrites responsibility to buy it and fix the bug!.if that what it takes.

It makes me sick thinking I spent all my effort ..money..on this tool and simple 80 euro dash is the couse of bug not being fixed....

You need to change this man..this bug fixing shit needs to be sorted somehow..

I'm bit pissed of now..

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[Spiritech]

Alek this is perfect answer you have put here why abrites don't fix bugs..and all reports about this micronas issue was a complete waste of my time and many others...

You your self is aware of this problem ..correct?.
Yes.
What abrites done to fix this ?.Nothing!.

So the problem in this case is abrites won't spent 80 f..en euros to fix a known issue..
This is ridiculous!.

So now as we know exactly why this bug is not fix ..what is your plan to fix it? Just wondering.

Please take to account that any bug in the software me as company wasting my time figured out what is wrong..then write email.. sent logs..then respond to emails ..and possibly not finish the job if no othere tools...

That can take hours for us trade people..to actually make effort to report a bug..

And reading this answer that you waiting for dash to be sent..its a complete joke ...
Even if the dash would cost 1000euro its abrites responsibility to buy it and fix the bug!.if that what it takes.

It makes me sick thinking I spent all my effort ..money..on this tool and simple 80 euro dash is the couse of bug not being fixed....

You need to change this man..this bug fixing shit needs to be sorted somehow..

I'm bit pissed of now..

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This is unfortunately part and parcel of the Abrities business model of selling 'software modules'. It is not in their interest to fix or expand the functionality of already purchased software as they won't be able to recoup the developer time investment to do so.

I fully agree this is on Abrities to source themselves a dashboard, and deploy a fix without further user interaction especially as they're aware of it and should have done this already.

Now, I in fact have one of these dashboards sitting on my workbench right now, it's from a wrecked vehicle and I just keep it on the shelf to do changeovers for dashboards with failed checksums or bad screens, I was just about to service mode it and make a transponder for it. But the shipping from Australia will very much exceed the cost of just buying one locally over there in the EU.

Edit: This goes in the same category as the times I was told 'This dashboard not supported' by support with active SPS when trying to do UDS Immo4 Tiguans with AVDI. Just a significant lack of thorough testing before deploying solutions.

[habbyb]

I think they belong to the same group with audi a3 golf 5 from 2009 with dash micronas ???? I want to mention the fact that avdi it did not connect on any module I thought that plug dlc is damage the surprise came from autel in 3 min I started the car , then you say too for which I paid a huge amount in license for vag to not be able to connect to one ordinal golf from 2009 , succes .

[rapidlocksmiths]

This is unfortunately part and parcel of the Abrities business model of selling 'software modules'. It is not in their interest to fix or expand the functionality of already purchased software as they won't be able to recoup the developer time investment to do so.

I fully agree this is on Abrities to source themselves a dashboard, and deploy a fix without further user interaction especially as they're aware of it and should have done this already.

Now, I in fact have one of these dashboards sitting on my workbench right now, it's from a wrecked vehicle and I just keep it on the shelf to do changeovers for dashboards with failed checksums or bad screens, I was just about to service mode it and make a transponder for it. But the shipping from Australia will very much exceed the cost of just buying one locally over there in the EU.

Edit: This goes in the same category as the times I was told 'This dashboard not supported' by support with active SPS when trying to do UDS Immo4 Tiguans with AVDI. Just a significant lack of thorough testing before deploying solutions.

AlekN did specifically ask for a UK dash from a 2010 model of A3 as stated they are different to rest , doesnt change anything as plenty available from uk on ebay , im sure their uk distributor could get one and post it to them if they cant buy it themselves from ebay.
i assume any uk spec dashboard form that year as no specific dash code has been mentioned .

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[gttuning]

Bad..bad..experience with online bmw software.on f15 ...
Job is ..bdc reset for km..
Message come unsupported version..
Left BDC in state ign.ON at all times..
Tryed to conect ista..but can't come with bdc..
Avdi still can read vin.etc.but can't fix this issue..
Tryed autel to flash it ..
It can see vin..preper test plan to program bdc..
It fails to put into bootloader..

Any had another bdc with same hardware.
I had it ready to adopt.
Got isn from ecu
Adopt BDC ..learn key..
Went to change vin..in bdc zgw..hit program.
Now stuck at 21% ..not going anywhere..
Press stop.
Now have no come to bdc as its in programing state..
I can only see ZGW with old vin..
I try to program it ..but stuck everytime at 45 % ...and won't pass that..
F...en joke altogether.


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[rapidlocksmiths]

This is unfortunately part and parcel of the Abrities business model of selling 'software modules'. It is not in their interest to fix or expand the functionality of already purchased software as they won't be able to recoup the developer time investment to do so.

I fully agree this is on Abrities to source themselves a dashboard, and deploy a fix without further user interaction especially as they're aware of it and should have done this already.

Now, I in fact have one of these dashboards sitting on my workbench right now, it's from a wrecked vehicle and I just keep it on the shelf to do changeovers for dashboards with failed checksums or bad screens, I was just about to service mode it and make a transponder for it. But the shipping from Australia will very much exceed the cost of just buying one locally over there in the EU.

Edit: This goes in the same category as the times I was told 'This dashboard not supported' by support with active SPS when trying to do UDS Immo4 Tiguans with AVDI. Just a significant lack of thorough testing before deploying solutions.

the only part of this i disagree with is the begining , i believe it is indeed in abrites best interests to fix issues and expand coverage in old purchased licences , although they dont recoup the developer costs from existing customers in sales to do so , it does bring in new money as if the groups and forums are not full of negative reports then more customers are attracted to abrites vag rather than being put off , so long term it could well pay its way 10 fold for them. But most importantly their customer has paid a high price for something with bugs that they should fix at their earliest convenience , after all we was told that this was one of the main reasons for AMS being necessary to finance such work , so developer time has been paid upfront and is ongoing via ams for bug fixes.
sales of new licences recoups dev costs on new releases , AMS i believed was to finance bug fixes and ongoing expansion of coverage to old licences as well, via regular updates and for server access for online functions.

On the plus side i did recieve a good offer to update to full cars , though when i look at it alot of whats included i would never use , but it was a decent offer , so i suspect the money is best kept in place for when the new coverage comes in october when this promo ends , im now sceptical when abrites do a good deal prior to new releases that there may be a sting in the tail comming , possibly not the case but they do have history. but a good offer for existing customers none the less.

[u.s]

Anyone successfully changed max speed limit on a Sprinter using the Mercedes online special functions?

[AlekN]

Bad..bad..experience with online bmw software.on f15 ...
Job is ..bdc reset for km..
Message come unsupported version..
Left BDC in state ign.ON at all times..
Tryed to conect ista..but can't come with bdc..
Avdi still can read vin.etc.but can't fix this issue..
Tryed autel to flash it ..
It can see vin..preper test plan to program bdc..
It fails to put into bootloader..

Any had another bdc with same hardware.
I had it ready to adopt.
Got isn from ecu
Adopt BDC ..learn key..
Went to change vin..in bdc zgw..hit program.
Now stuck at 21% ..not going anywhere..
Press stop.
Now have no come to bdc as its in programing state..
I can only see ZGW with old vin..
I try to program it ..but stuck everytime at 45 % ...and won't pass that..
F...en joke altogether.


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OK, you had an unsupported version. This would notify me that you have a version 85 or higher. Until we have 85+ supported by OBD we cannot help.
The BDC will be on with the car whenever it is needed and the software will turn the ignition ON so there is no need to anything else to complete the reset.
Why would you attempt to program the BDC? did you think that you can downgrade it to version lower than 85? We have tried it and this DOES NOT WORK.
If you have an usupported BDC - treat it as a FEM. It is not a F****en joke, it is a matter of following procedures. Please DM me your interface number and I will see exactly what happened and ATTEMPT to fix the car with the developers so thatwe can try to restore it even though you clearly attempted to reflash it to a lower version to avoid taking the BDC out which is NOT correct and will not work. Then you attempted Autel to reflash it again.


IF A BDC IS UNSUPPORTED BY OBD YOU MUST TREAT IT AS FEM.

[AlekN]

Anyone successfully changed max speed limit on a Sprinter using the Mercedes online special functions?

I have done a VITO and an S class:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDY9rzYZqlI

[gttuning]

OK, you had an unsupported version. This would notify me that you have a version 85 or higher. Until we have 85+ supported by OBD we cannot help.
The BDC will be on with the car whenever it is needed and the software will turn the ignition ON so there is no need to anything else to complete the reset.
Why would you attempt to program the BDC? did you think that you can downgrade it to version lower than 85? We have tried it and this DOES NOT WORK.
If you have an usupported BDC - treat it as a FEM. It is not a F****en joke, it is a matter of following procedures. Please DM me your interface number and I will see exactly what happened and ATTEMPT to fix the car with the developers so thatwe can try to restore it even though you clearly attempted to reflash it to a lower version to avoid taking the BDC out which is NOT correct and will not work. Then you attempted Autel to reflash it again.


IF A BDC IS UNSUPPORTED BY OBD YOU MUST TREAT IT AS FEM.Flash Verion was 052.010.010

I wosent doing this Alek by obd..
I always do this on bench like fem..
Abrites left me this bdc in state of Ignition ON ..ista won't program as can't due to some issue with bdc..

Autel and abrites could read vin etc..
After autel that bdc in state that it doesn't come but I was aware of that as it had bootloader fail...so it was riski alright..

My issue is now.. I had bdc spare here with same hw number.. reset done already in passt ready to adopt..
I successfully adopted to car..learn new key..
Then went to write vin in bdc/zgw and it freezed on 21%..

So another bdc in bad shape..if I repeat this process its stuck at 45 % tyring to read vehicle order ..and stuck at this at all times.

I have sent email to support to see if there is a way of restoring this unit..somehow..that will write this vin..After that I can do rest of my coding.


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[u.s]

Sprinter didn't work, CRD3 ECU, said something like function not supported.

[gttuning]

Whats happening today??

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[AlekN]

Missing licenses issue resolved.
Please excuse us for that. We had an issue.
@GTTUNING, please get in touch with us to see what is up and get it sorted.

[vageric]

can avdi program original keys for vw transporter 2013 with remote?

[lush29]

can avdi program original keys for vw transporter 2013 with remote?Once you have a dealer key and pin yes no problems

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[AlekN]

can avdi program original keys for vw transporter 2013 with remote?

Indeed, transporters use Golf clusters as far as I know so it is either based on a Golf 6 or MQB (Golf 7), there is another option, where it is an Amarok so I will need a bit of information from the van. Is it possible for you to check the cluster of the van so that I can be more precise in my reply? A screenshot of the scan by diagnostics will be very helpful.

[Spiritech]

It'll be a UDS immo4 cluster, if you don't have a working key you'll need to service mode the cluster to read the immo data. AVDI should support that with ZN060

[vageric]

Indeed, transporters use Golf clusters as far as I know so it is either based on a Golf 6 or MQB (Golf 7), there is another option, where it is an Amarok so I will need a bit of information from the van. Is it possible for you to check the cluster of the van so that I can be more precise in my reply? A screenshot of the scan by diagnostics will be very helpful.

car is currently on the road, so could'nt take a screenshot from the cluster.
i gonna take it later when client bring the car back to us.
but i have the key number from the new key if that help: 7E0837202AD

[vageric]

It'll be a UDS immo4 cluster, if you don't have a working key you'll need to service mode the cluster to read the immo data. AVDI should support that with ZN060

client have a working key but its near dying.
thats why he order 2 new keys p/n 7e0837202ad by the dealer.

[habbyb]

someone managed to add key tiguan mqb 2017 virtual dash with automatic transmision ??? by the way nothing is mentioned for implementation audi a 3 with dash micronas , golf I'm not interested it can be done with something else , succes .

[habbyb]

Originally Posted by AlekN https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=4595896#post4595896) Indeed, transporters use Golf clusters as far as I know so it is either based on a Golf 6 or MQB (Golf 7), there is another option, where it is an Amarok so I will need a bit of information from the van. Is it possible for you to check the cluster of the van so that I can be more precise in my reply? A screenshot of the scan by diagnostics will be very helpful.


Can not take it avdi in service mod he just wants dealer keys with programer

[gttuning]

1 series 2011 cas3.. akl
Will see how that gose....[emoji854][emoji854]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230815/538129417ed7efd812af635ae9edaf1b.jpg

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[Supas]

Hello!
How is AVDI today with the calculation of the synchronization file in VAG Mqb vehicles?
Read CS from modules and calculate synchrony?
Can CS be placed manually and does the calculation?

[gttuning]

This job was a callout.not in garage with good stable Internet.. akl ..

Buck up CAS3 with Smok ..
Buck up ecu edc17cp02 with flex on bench.

Start downgrading Cas3 ..
While part1 was programing ..I could see my Internet went down..lost signal..then after minutes signal back ok..
But once finished programming part 1 it didn't go to download part 2 [emoji16]..stuck for few minutes..and didn't move..
At this stage as we know CAS is dead.

Took CAS3 out write my backups..flash ..eepr.. and start again..
During the second attempt Internet didn't droop down ...and job finished successfully ..

So I wounder can anything be done from abrites side to correct the software to prevent crashing cars due else bad Internet or again software just didn't go to step 2.



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[vageric]

Indeed, transporters use Golf clusters as far as I know so it is either based on a Golf 6 or MQB (Golf 7), there is another option, where it is an Amarok so I will need a bit of information from the van. Is it possible for you to check the cluster of the van so that I can be more precise in my reply? A screenshot of the scan by diagnostics will be very helpful.

just finish the job with avdi.
was indeed a UDS cluster.

1) first i enter service mode with a working key.
2) then i saved the config file. (just incase).
3) then i read the immo data.
4) then add key
5) then program remote with avdi

all went oke and car is gone!

thanks to everyone for helping.

[vageric]

QUOTE=Spiritech;4595900]It'll be a UDS immo4 cluster, if you don't have a working key you'll need to service mode the cluster to read the immo data. AVDI should support that with ZN060[/QUOTE]

was indeed UDS cluster.
all went through OBD.

thanks for helping

[AlekN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXuMxC6pv74&t=1s

We even shot a video on the repair, you never ever needed different tools, all you need is AVDI.


This job was a callout.not in garage with good stable Internet.. akl ..

Buck up CAS3 with Smok ..
Buck up ecu edc17cp02 with flex on bench.

Start downgrading Cas3 ..
While part1 was programing ..I could see my Internet went down..lost signal..then after minutes signal back ok..
But once finished programming part 1 it didn't go to download part 2 [emoji16]..stuck for few minutes..and didn't move..
At this stage as we know CAS is dead.

Took CAS3 out write my backups..flash ..eepr.. and start again..
During the second attempt Internet didn't droop down ...and job finished successfully ..

So I wounder can anything be done from abrites side to correct the software to prevent crashing cars due else bad Internet or again software just didn't go to step 2.



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[gttuning]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXuMxC6pv74&t=1s

We even shot a video on the repair, you never ever needed different tools, all you need is AVDI.I will try use abrites next time if it happens..Will see how it gose.[emoji106]

For me buckingup CAS is standard procedure for othere reasons..like future replacement of CAS on this car for example.its handy to have it..

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[gttuning]

2015 520D vehicle order change..
8TF needs to be disabled...
Read and save vehicle order ..
Remove 8TF pedestrian protection...
Write new vehicleorder....
Message at the end ...unit has no coding [emoji854]..
First thought I can't have that bad luck[emoji16]ffs

But procedure finishes correctly..car is not left in transport mode ...all is OK..

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[Spiritech]

QUOTE=Spiritech;4595900]It'll be a UDS immo4 cluster, if you don't have a working key you'll need to service mode the cluster to read the immo data. AVDI should support that with ZN060

was indeed UDS cluster.
all went through OBD.

thanks for helping[/QUOTE]

Glad you had success my friend!

[gttuning]

X5 f15 BDC ver.81..
Version was supported by avdi.
Start the process..all ok.
Successfully virgin BDC .. all ok.
No issues this time.
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[gttuning]

Bad..bad..experience with online bmw software.on f15 ...
Job is ..bdc reset for km..
Message come unsupported version..
Left BDC in state ign.ON at all times..
Tryed to conect ista..but can't come with bdc..
Avdi still can read vin.etc.but can't fix this issue..
Tryed autel to flash it ..
It can see vin..preper test plan to program bdc..
It fails to put into bootloader..

Any had another bdc with same hardware.
I had it ready to adopt.
Got isn from ecu
Adopt BDC ..learn key..
Went to change vin..in bdc zgw..hit program.
Now stuck at 21% ..not going anywhere..
Press stop.
Now have no come to bdc as its in programing state..
I can only see ZGW with old vin..
I try to program it ..but stuck everytime at 45 % ...and won't pass that..
F...en joke altogether.


Sent from my SM-G965F using TapatalkGot hands on diffrent BDC ..hw D5.0 ..ver81
Jeep starting and driving but obviously few issues with indicators etc..hardware is diffrent...
But atleast I can move now..

Anyway..

Is there any programer out there that can buckup fem bdc units or restore them when shit hits the fan??.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230816/2d7465523684162f04567774878244b9.jpg

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[gttuning]

Alek dose this rh850 programer support akl on golf 7 cars..


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[AlekN]

Sure there is - the programmer is called ABPROG. 95256 reading is fully setup there.
BTW. You have a coding problem in the X5/X6 that you are working on. after replacing you need to change the vin and apply default coding to the bdc or any module. Abrites is the only tool to reliably support default coding based on the VO by VIN which is due to our proprietary server database.
P.S. One of the biggest reasons for me liking the F10/F15/F16/Fo1 cars is the 6WB dash.


Got hands on diffrent BDC ..hw D5.0 ..ver81
Jeep starting and driving but obviously few issues with indicators etc..hardware is diffrent...
But atleast I can move now..

Anyway..

Is there any programer out there that can buckup fem bdc units or restore them when shit hits the fan??.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230816/2d7465523684162f04567774878244b9.jpg

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[AlekN]

Of course it does.


Alek dose this rh850 programer support akl on golf 7 cars..


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[gttuning]

Sure there is - the programmer is called ABPROG. 95256 reading is fully setup there.
BTW. You have a coding problem in the X5/X6 that you are working on. after replacing you need to change the vin and apply default coding to the bdc or any module. Abrites is the only tool to reliably support default coding based on the VO by VIN which is due to our proprietary server database.
P.S. One of the biggest reasons for me liking the F10/F15/F16/Fo1 cars is the 6WB dash.I learn this bdc just to move this car out of my way..

Bdc is diffrent hw..5.0 original was 4.4 ..
I don't think coding will help this case..
As board it totaly diffrent...

Anyway..Once I get the proper one I get this sorted..else avdi freezes on me[emoji849][emoji85]..
Hope not...[emoji111]

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[Supas]

Hello!
How is AVDI today with the calculation of the synchronization file in VAG Mqb vehicles?
Read CS from modules and calculate synchrony?
Can CS be placed manually and does the calculation?


AlekN Or does anyone else have this answer?
Thanks

[phayz]

AlekN Or does anyone else have this answer?
Thanks

You have to obtain the CS manually:

From the dash with ZN085

From the ECU with EP001/ZN051 - usually on bench, and get the CS from dumps using ECU menus on VAG

From the TCU/DSG with VN002 & internal CAN connection

Only thing that isn't supported is ELV currently.

Put CS values in Key Learning -> Key Learning by CS - make sure the information is correct. Make the dealer key & learn.

[Fallen]

Sure there is - the programmer is called ABPROG. 95256 reading is fully setup there.
BTW. You have a coding problem in the X5/X6 that you are working on. after replacing you need to change the vin and apply default coding to the bdc or any module. Abrites is the only tool to reliably support default coding based on the VO by VIN which is due to our proprietary server database.
P.S. One of the biggest reasons for me liking the F10/F15/F16/Fo1 cars is the 6WB dash.

There is no programmer i'm aware of that can fully back up and restore a fem back to its original state.
If it was as simple as just copying the 95256 to the donor FEM there would be no problems.

A CAS can easily be backed up, a FEM can not.

[gttuning]

Got that bdc with same hardware..D4.4
Put on bench with my fem bdc test platform..
Ver.052
Virginizing ok..
Rest km ok.
Went to write vin to address (10) BDC_GW ..this time ok..
All done on bench with out the car.

I'm going to adopted to car tomorrow..
Fingers crossed [emoji1696] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230817/849b3990bd8c9c0ce405511a55ff847d.jpg

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[gttuning]

Good by X5[emoji870]..
All went smoothly this time..
Virgin bdc ok
Reste for km ok
Adopted to car success..
Learn key..ok.
Write vin..ok
Write VO bucked up befor I have started..ok
Reset stored km in diffrent modules ok..

Failed restet engine ecu km ..

If abrites dose something to buckup bdc fem that can return to its original state that would be great..

Alek you maybe think I'm beginner in this game and pressing buttons like I'm not sure what I'm doing ..but like you said above all it needs to follow instructions?..

So please what we will do when software stops half-way throughout processing bdc..

At that stage bdc is in bootloader state flash erased possibly...? What instructions have you for that case?

Would love to see what to do then.?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230818/78776b4850200cfa2b490873c5e75e71.jpg

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[fred77]

Hello!
How is AVDI today with the calculation of the synchronization file in VAG Mqb vehicles?
Read CS from modules and calculate synchrony?
Can CS be placed manually and does the calculation?


like all manufacturers inc few current they get from VAG server it would seem.
Really the Chinese ruined this flooding market.

tho you'd think we'd all see coming inc European tool manufactures

[Ecuprog31]

Ford pats synchro is it working ?
i have one smax 2013 and 1 fiesta
they changed abs module and car don’t start

[qeso705]

You have to obtain the CS manually:

From the dash with ZN085

From the ECU with EP001/ZN051 - usually on bench, and get the CS from dumps using ECU menus on VAG

From the TCU/DSG with VN002 & internal CAN connection

Only thing that isn't supported is ELV currently.

Put CS values in Key Learning -> Key Learning by CS - make sure the information is correct. Make the dealer key & learn.

Most ECU after 06.2018 are equipped with SHE and it is impossible to determine CS from these. As usual abritus forget to say crucial things which can reduce their income.

[gttuning]

Ford pats synchro is it working ?
i have one smax 2013 and 1 fiesta
they changed abs module and car don’t startI don't think so man..
Last time I tryed it there was no security accses...
Else something changed..

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[habbyb]

it is not possible after 2011-2012 few chances I tried dash bord 2013 not succes

[Ecuprog31]

Like forscan but not the same price

[gttuning]

Anyone have update avdi with current offer ??.
Just wondering witch licenses r missing after update.
Could someone just write down missing licenses please.
[emoji111]

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[vageric]

Anyone have update avdi with current offer ??.
Just wondering witch licenses r missing after update.
Could someone just write down missing licenses please.
[emoji111]

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MN031 and EP004.

[offsystem]

have problem with BCM2 8K0907064KE_0711

[gttuning]

2017 Kia Optima .
Remote learning function not working..
Fail to enter remote programing..
Autel done the job..

Also had 2015 Hyundai IX35 ..all was OK..
Key learning ok..
Remote learning ok .

So Kia Optima must have bug ..


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[vageric]

have to do a Mercedes Citan 2019 add key.
anyone know what car i must choose?
is it same as renault kangoo 2 or clio 3 or ???

[Ecuprog31]

Kangoo 2 …..

[topclef]

Update :
Solved , after several attempts today the programmer successfully unlocked the MCU , Pincode extracted and the car start

[offsystem]

its really funny that avdi support is asking me why should there be a problem ,when avdi is displaying all data

[AlekN]

Does anyone have a ticket number I can look into?

[offsystem]

Does anyone have a ticket number I can look into?

please Alekn check my files for BCM2 data, the displayed data is not ok

ABRITES request #20847

thx

[auto techniek]

Tried to program Renault kangoo 2 extra key
Totaal 2 keys. Choose 2 keys to program. I get notice keys programmed but see only one key is programmed. second one not.
Solved with: when you need to program 2 keys you have to choose 3 keys otherwise second key won t be programmed.

[vageric]

Tried to program Renault kangoo 2 extra key
Totaal 2 keys. Choose 2 keys to program. I get notice keys programmed but see only one key is programmed. second one not.
Solved with: when you need to program 2 keys you have to choose 3 keys otherwise second key won t be programmed.

i did a Citan 2019 yesterday what same as Kangoo2 is and all went flawless.
client had 1 key and wanted to add 1 more key.
first it read the pin then you choose 2 keys and both keys get programmed without any issue!

[auto techniek]

Thanks for the feedback.

I wil see next time what wil happen



i did a Citan 2019 yesterday what same as Kangoo2 is and all went flawless.
client had 1 key and wanted to add 1 more key.
first it read the pin then you choose 2 keys and both keys get programmed without any issue!

[davorOS]

is there any difference in 2021/2022 Citan?
I try two few days ago and allways get messagge of pin code not found
key is same as old Citan,flip key two button

[qeso705]

It should be on the same system like latest Kangoo and Master(2020-). It is important which UCH type is inside, not shape of key.

[mbedv]

I have a question about the experiences with the RH850/V850 programmer? Does it work without problems? Does it have to be soldered down less now? I think when I look at all the solutions (Autel,VVDI, DP4, Poldiag, Smok...) related to this MQB platform, Abrites has the simplest and most secure solution. Thanks

[AlekN]

I honestly believe we have the best solution at the moment. We still do not have the new version out and for the moment writing is still limited to V850 but other than that you will be very happy with what we offer.


I have a question about the experiences with the RH850/V850 programmer? Does it work without problems? Does it have to be soldered down less now? I think when I look at all the solutions (Autel,VVDI, DP4, Poldiag, Smok...) related to this MQB platform, Abrites has the simplest and most secure solution. Thanks

[qwojtus]

I honestly believe we have the best solution at the moment. We still do not have the new version out and for the moment writing is still limited to V850 but other than that you will be very happy with what we offer.

Honestly, I doubt to invest to Abrites anymore. The china cloning you giving free solution to everyone, while others spen kilos already having the same thing.
You announced new Toyota/ Lexus very expensive software - 4.5k - and now everything else implemented to their devices giving users for free as well as RH850 and BDC obd.
Many people just laugh of us, they just waiting bit longer to receive free solution.

[mbedv]

abrites are the only ones where I don't have to lift a CPU pin or cut a conductor track. All other solvers are all the same (shitty). to me it looks like an own development and the others bought from one and the same.

[lush29]

I have a question about the experiences with the RH850/V850 programmer? Does it work without problems? Does it have to be soldered down less now? I think when I look at all the solutions (Autel,VVDI, DP4, Poldiag, Smok...) related to this MQB platform, Abrites has the simplest and most secure solution. ThanksTested on 2 clusters so far , both with no problems. By far the best solution for me

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[AlekN]

ge.Good news for all the people who participated in the Abrites Summer Jam promo. TN016 will be sent to all of you completely free of charge.

[hollanda]

Alek,

For who have PSA PIN, can you make calculator dump tool for Delphi bsi 2016+ or 2021+

On the manual(online version) i see that you can load dump. But i try it and don’t get the message.

[whiskeyman]

ford still shockingly bad
any chance avdi could have a wee go of their own software
had a play yesterday on an old ford for a laugh just to see if it had improved
old kuga 2010 keyless deleted keys then would not add back in
out came the china tool to finish the job

and a wee look at the new transits would help greatly many thanks

[qeso705]

ge.Good news for all the people who participated in the Abrites Summer Jam promo. TN016 will be sent to all of you completely free of charge.


When I understand correctly abritus already sold license for BA HT3 and BA DST. Now generous give TN016 license for "B9" type which dont exist for some users and sell it for additional money for BA DST?

[Spiritech]

When I understand correctly abritus already sold license for BA HT3 and BA DST. Now generous give TN016 license for "B9" type which dont exist for some users and sell it for additional money for BA DST?

I think what Alek is trying to say is the Summer Jam promo did not include the TN016 licence which has been released since the promo began. It's been retroactively added to the promotion as anyone who participated got it free of charge. For that, good on Abrities.

That said, given B9 isn't very different to BA in any functional way this is a case of an unnecessary software pack being generated. Different key passwords OR different passwords to read dflash areas are not a good reason to create new software packs for users to buy. Only major or generational changes should trigger a new software pack. B9 should just be included in with the BA software pack. These new systems are not revolutionary, they are evolutionary and what changes is the passwords to read the dflash area and if you are using it the gateway bypass. Stop charging money for minor updates, these should come under the AMS.

[qeso705]

I think what Alek is trying to say is the Summer Jam promo did not include the TN016 licence which has been released since the promo began. It's been retroactively added to the promotion as anyone who participated got it free of charge. For that, good on Abrities.

That said, given B9 isn't very different to BA in any functional way this is a case of an unnecessary software pack being generated. Different key passwords OR different passwords to read dflash areas are not a good reason to create new software packs for users to buy. Only major or generational changes should trigger a new software pack. B9 should just be included in with the BA software pack. These new systems are not revolutionary, they are evolutionary and what changes is the passwords to read the dflash area and if you are using it the gateway bypass. Stop charging money for minor updates, these should come under the AMS.

They sell first BA DST and BA HT3 license which should cover "TN016" magic B9 license too. As usual they split hair to atoms to get more money.

[gttuning]

ford still shockingly bad
any chance avdi could have a wee go of their own software
had a play yesterday on an old ford for a laugh just to see if it had improved
old kuga 2010 keyless deleted keys then would not add back in
out came the china tool to finish the job

and a wee look at the new transits would help greatly many thanksYeah..
I think Alek said they r working on it..

But I can't understand how they have ford available for sale ...who ever bought it recently needs tablets to be taken daily im afraid..
Hope they get this fixed ASAP.

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[habbyb]

about toyota is full youtube autel he does them in all directions the device costs 1.000 $

[AlekN]

That is exactly right and I have no idea how it was twisted into us "milking you for money?"

I think what Alek is trying to say is the Summer Jam promo did not include the TN016 licence which has been released since the promo began. It's been retroactively added to the promotion as anyone who participated got it free of charge. For that, good on Abrities.

That said, given B9 isn't very different to BA in any functional way this is a case of an unnecessary software pack being generated. Different key passwords OR different passwords to read dflash areas are not a good reason to create new software packs for users to buy. Only major or generational changes should trigger a new software pack. B9 should just be included in with the BA software pack. These new systems are not revolutionary, they are evolutionary and what changes is the passwords to read the dflash area and if you are using it the gateway bypass. Stop charging money for minor updates, these should come under the AMS.

[qeso705]

That is exactly right and I have no idea how it was twisted into us "milking you for money?"

alekN maybe focus on true fixing issues as discussion with your alternate world. You didnt answer on my previous questions. Nothing was twisted by us. Your company permannently try to cheat customers.

1)What is B9 type of key? Such key type dont exist on Toyota or Lexus. abritus introduced BA DST keys license which are in Lexus NX and RX, you even replied some time ago to me that issue with no possibility to read content from RX BA is very rare on old license suggesting just not supported variant of software, you didnt say its seperate license, not covered at all. Now your company introduced next license to cover that was covered in previous. 100% old abritus DNA. You can invite cheater to decent community, but it will not change a cheater.

2)Where is your blog about AKL Q3 2023 promised some time ago in one week?

[Spiritech]

That is exactly right and I have no idea how it was twisted into us "milking you for money?"

I didn't twist anything Alek, I congratulated your company on adding a software pack released during a promotion to that promotion.

I never used the words 'milking you for money' and I'd appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth.

However I have an issue with this software pack in general. This business of generating a software pack for every single key password family of Toyota SMT ECU is very worrying indeed. These solutions are not revolutionary, they are simply updated emulation or updated passwords to read the data for emulation. BA & B9 are functionally identical and do not require a new software pack for every password. This is what AMS is for if it does not include support, AMS is to keep software up to date. This isn't a new system from Toyota, it's just a minor variation on an existing one. Yes, Toyota is finally moving to a more modern diagnostic platform with these new ones but B9 should be rolled in to BA as it's the same solution just with a different key password and different passwords to read the dflash area of the processor by obd.

I think perhaps your management need to seriously look at their pricing and what the subscriptions include, because at the moment it isn't looking very good to the end user. Charging money for a new software package because the key type changed by half a byte isn't really appropriate in my opinion.

I sincerely hope you take this as it is meant, constructively and without malice.

[fred77]

I didn't twist anything Alek, I congratulated your company on adding a software pack released during a promotion to that promotion.

I never used the words 'milking you for money' and I'd appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth.

However I have an issue with this software pack in general. This business of generating a software pack for every single key password family of Toyota SMT ECU is very worrying indeed. These solutions are not revolutionary, they are simply updated emulation or updated passwords to read the data for emulation. BA & B9 are functionally identical and do not require a new software pack for every password. This is what AMS is for if it does not include support, AMS is to keep software up to date. This isn't a new system from Toyota, it's just a minor variation on an existing one. Yes, Toyota is finally moving to a more modern diagnostic platform with these new ones but B9 should be rolled in to BA as it's the same solution just with a different key password and different passwords to read the dflash area of the processor by obd.

I think perhaps your management need to seriously look at their pricing and what the subscriptions include, because at the moment it isn't looking very good to the end user. Charging money for a new software package because the key type changed by half a byte isn't really appropriate in my opinion.

I sincerely hope you take this as it is meant, constructively and without malice.

Thanks you put me off getting Toyota update
Certainly we want an update to last

I don't see many toyotas anyway so will skip.

Will say AVDI worked well on what have use for on toyota

[isma123]

wrote them for some missing licence
waiting for a fair offer

[helper786]

I was offered a decent discount for the rest of the licenses besides mercedes truck however im upset on overall pricing as xhorse etc releases tools cheap as chips to do jap cars

[rapidlocksmiths]

i too was offered a very good price to go to full , however this time around i decided against it , most of the licences i wouldnt use , the few i would use would be cheaper to buy on next promotion , maybe next time depending on the offer.
im also mindfull of alekn comment about alot of new releases comming from october , so better to save investment for any new coverage of interest comming then that i will use than spending it ones i wont use.
though was a very good offer , best to date from abrites , had it been earlier on i may have bought.

[habbyb]

for me it was not convenient at all I have fallen behind with licenses , but I am very satisfied because I didn't spend nearly 15.000 eur useless worthless , succes .

[rapidlocksmiths]

The offer was excellent for the licences included , but only for someone who would use them all , my only interest was in the key programming licences which are the only interest i have , not the rest , had their been a deal for full key i may have bitten and paid the annual fee to add all released software for the next year, as more relevent for me personally, but cant detract from fact the deal was good for majority .

food for thought Alekn , maybe consider full and full key deals next time around , if a next time.

when balancing the coverage i already have on other tools along with what the deal would give me was what made it not the right time , then with alekn teasing that alot of new releases comming from october added to the fact this time the time wasnt right for me.

but best deal from abrites by far for existing users to upgrade , im sure plenty enjoyed it.

[Spiritech]

The offer was excellent for the licences included , but only for someone who would use them all , my only interest was in the key programming licences which are the only interest i have , not the rest , had their been a deal for full key i may have bitten as more relevent for me personally, but cant detract from fact the deal was good for majority .

food for thought Alekn , maybe consider full and full key deals next time around , if a next time.

when balancing the coverage i already have on other tools along with what the deal would give me was what made it not the right time , then with alekn teasing that alot of new releases comming from october added to the fact this time the time wasnt right for me.

but best deal from abrites by far for existing users to upgrade , im sure plenty enjoyed it.

Yep I know more than one locksmith who took advantage of it. It was a good promo and good to see something for existing users.

[tagirdn]

But no one answered me about the promotion.
I wrote to the central office. But they sent it to those through whom the programmer was purchased.


I wrote to those from whom I bought it. But I never received an answer.


The head office probably needed it so badly.



But they helped me save money :)

[habbyb]

for me it was not convenient at all I have fallen behind with licenses , but I am very satisfied because I didn't spend nearly 15.000 eur useless worthless , succes .

I was left with the least 15.000 in the wallet , I'm very happy that I didn't bite , succes .

[gttuning]

Hi all after update have this message about missing d3d12.dll i think there was something in the past to copy some folder? Anyone remember
Thanks

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[gttuning]

Tn016 not in full update?

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[autoTkey]

ge.Good news for all the people who participated in the Abrites Summer Jam promo. TN016 will be sent to all of you completely free of charge.

Apparently - it is IN the full update. Why do you ask?

[gttuning]

Apparently - it is IN the full update. Why do you ask?Because I didn't get it with my full update..


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[autoTkey]

Look again for TN016F.

[gttuning]

Tn016 so..tn016f is actually tn016 ?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230908/d9039e69f4fbd5d5e7a65045fadb6aef.jpg

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[offsystem]

Question to VAG BCM2 SW the offline version have much for functions then the VAG Online for eg. load dumps of readed ELV Motorolla, but the BCM2 dumps locked NEC from online version cant be loaded in offline version so nothing is working :-(

[Spiritech]

Tn016 so..tn016f is actually tn016 ?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230908/d9039e69f4fbd5d5e7a65045fadb6aef.jpg

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Looks like they just appended a F for 'Free' so they know who bought it and who got it for free, probably for some sort of later discount on another software pack purpose as they did with TN011.

[gttuning]

Looks like they just appended a F for 'Free' so they know who bought it and who got it for free, probably for some sort of later discount on another software pack purpose as they did with TN011.Hope its not a subaru thing..
We have previously seen free for all subaru licence..

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[topclef]

Hello ,
To AlekN (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/350258-AlekN) , Today we received new Renault Kangoo 2023 with card in our workshop for adding spare key ,we have try with Renault Online , car detected card programmed detected and also new key detected when AVDI ask to put new key/card , after few second when AVDI ask if you have working key and clic yes we get ( unsupported softwre version )
we have take a look to BCM and HFM , same as CLIOV and CaptureII , it is possible to add it ?
Thanks in advance