2006 Dodge RAM SRT-10

[boxsport]

Gyus i need your help.

Im trying to program a Key for a 2006 Dodge Ram SRT-10 with FVDI but it doesnt connect to the SKIM module when i enter the SKIM Programming.
If i enter in the Inmobilizer menu to read info and get the Module code it connects with no problem but when i try to enter the SKIM Programming i get "Communication Error".

This is the info i get when reading Inmobilizer:


Establishing a diagnostic session with the selected unit ....
Diagnostic channel is open.



--- electronic control unit identification ---


Chrysler No. : 56040659AJ
ECU Origin : DCX
Supplier : OMRON
Hardware Version : 30 / 4c
Software Version : 07 / 04




--- electronic control unit extended identification ---
Original VIN: XXXXXXXXXXXXX7644
Current VIN : XXXXXXXXXXXXX7644
Code Fingerprint of Module 1
Programming Date : 02-03-04
Tester Serial number: 00000000


Codeblock Software Identification of Module 1
Software Version : 04.00.35
Part Number : 6040659AJJ


Bootblock Software Identification of Module 1
Software Version : 01.00.ff
Part Number : ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿJ


ECU Serial Number (Hex): 544f4d4658323630353032363036 (ASCII: TOMFX260502606)


I already tried using the different Can Resistor Values and still same result...

Can anyone help me out with this?

Is it possible to get Pin Code from Dash Reading? (I was able to read Dash Info and have the Dump)
I also have SBB Pro2 but it did not accept the Pin Code i have.

Could i have any problems with my FVDI 2018 unit? I tried connecting to other RAM vehicles and it reads OK (more recent years)

Thanks

[boxsport]

no one can help me out with this?
i would really appreciate some help guys...

Thanks

[sleepyrz]

https://theviperstore.com/SKIM_Removal_Install.htm

read eeprom post here someone will read and post

no?

buy from dealer

or

have customer go to parts department and request their pin code.........


(it helps to have them yell and be angry)

[boxsport]

https://theviperstore.com/SKIM_Removal_Install.htm

read eeprom post here someone will read and post

no?

buy from dealer

or

have customer go to parts department and request their pin code.........


(it helps to have them yell and be angry)


Thanks. I will see if i can get the SKIM out these days and will post info here.
But i would like to know if there is any problem with my FVDI unit or why it does not connect for key programming and it can connetc to read module info...

[boxsport]

https://theviperstore.com/SKIM_Removal_Install.htm

read eeprom post here someone will read and post

no?

buy from dealer

or

have customer go to parts department and request their pin code.........


(it helps to have them yell and be angry)

Hello there.
Could you review the picture from this link and help me identify where is the Eeprom located and what could i use to read it?
https://mega.nz/file/x10lyZ6J#eioYB8ynM1f11LeHhS_Wfa16giSuYgmqaUBMvScnt Fk

I dont see any "normal" eeprom like the 24c.. or 95c... or someting like that.
There is a PCF 7991AT and a 01N2F8T B7 5173E but i'm not sure if its any of those and how can i read it...
I have UPA and EZP2010 for Eeprom readings, but dont kknow if they will do the job...
Also have carprog and fvdi2018, but with fvdi i cant read this unit...

If you can help me i would really appreciate...

Thanks

[sleepyrz]

pic of second side?

[sleepyrz]

also do you have any other programmers you can try to pull the pin code?

[narkeleptk]

Try this one. 93c86 (x16)

[boxsport]

pic of second side?

The other side doesn't have any ICs or components. Just the PCB tracks and soldering points.
Thats why didnt posted pics

[boxsport]

also do you have any other programmers you can try to pull the pin code?

No. I only have those i told you.

[boxsport]

Try this one. 93c86 (x16)

I will try. But that one is half the size of a "normal" 93c eeprom...
Dont know if i will be able to weld something to read that...
I will see what i can do...

[narkeleptk]

Its 3x3mm tssop8 package isn't it? Its common adapter on most tools.
https://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/1393660.pdf

Doesn't look like the pinout matches for 93c86 tho, I do remember some odd skim similar to this before. I'll dig in my info see if I see it. Its rare I ever eeprom can type skims and its been awhile since I did the one that looked like this sorry.

[boxsport]

Its 3x3mm tssop8 package isn't it? Its common adapter on most tools.
https://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/1393660.pdf

Doesn't look like the pinout matches for 93c86 tho, I do remember some odd skim similar to this before. I'll dig in my info see if I see it. Its rare I ever eeprom can type skims and its been awhile since I did the one that looked like this sorry.

Yes it seems to be a Tssop8 package, but the engravings doesnt seem to be anything related to those ICs...
It has engraved "66M 596" and like the picture is, on the let side there is like a Grey stripp. (dont know if in the Tssop8 they have the small dot or this stripp to mark the position)

If you can look for info i would appreciate...
This is my neighbors truck, and its "parked" without the SKIM for me to try and sort this out...

[narkeleptk]

duplicate.

[narkeleptk]

Thought it said 86M. Maybe its a 93c66 then but I have never seen a chrysler with 93c66.

This seller seems to suggest its a 93c66. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32800793353.html Still tho the trace for pin 4 looks rather large for an eeprpm memory more like a VR. I would guess its vcc or vss which doesnt match for 93cxxx. Remove it and use dmm to see what they are. unless pin1 is where the M is, then it matches or its reversed pinout.

[boxsport]

Thought it said 86M. Maybe its a 93c66 then but I have never seen a chrysler with 93c66.

This seller seems to suggest its a 93c66. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32800793353.html Still tho the trace for pin 4 looks rather large for an eeprpm memory more like a VR. I would guess its vcc or vss which doesnt match for 93cxxx. Remove it and use dmm to see what they are. unless pin1 is where the M is, then it matches or its reversed pinout.

Thanks a lot...
I will try and take it out, although its kind of hard because there's some small components next to it...
I will try and report back...
Thanks again for the help...

[boxsport]

Thought it said 86M. Maybe its a 93c66 then but I have never seen a chrysler with 93c66.

This seller seems to suggest its a 93c66. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32800793353.html Still tho the trace for pin 4 looks rather large for an eeprpm memory more like a VR. I would guess its vcc or vss which doesnt match for 93cxxx. Remove it and use dmm to see what they are. unless pin1 is where the M is, then it matches or its reversed pinout.

I checked to see if i could remove this "eeprom" and because there's 2 very tiny components next to it i think i need to try and read with some wires on some pads that are close by...
But i need to ask if you can review this picture and see if you could help me out sorting what pins are what...
Whats confusing me its the "ground" pin... For what i could check on several pinouts for these Micro eeproms (at least for what i could find) the GND pin is on "5". and unless this one is "Mirrored" i'm kind of lost on this...
If you can help i will be very gratefull...

Thanks

[rob h]

https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/747195-Dodge-PIN-from-immo-dump

What kind of prog are you using?
How do you know, if these can be read in circuit?
What voltage settings have you tried?


Lower voltage to 3v.
If possible dont allow stop on errors.
With this setting, try all the usual suspects.

Is there a pin check, voltage check function on your prog?

[boxsport]

https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/747195-Dodge-PIN-from-immo-dump

What kind of prog are you using?
How do you know, if these can be read in circuit?
What voltage settings have you tried?


Lower voltage to 3v.
If possible dont allow stop on errors.
With this setting, try all the usual suspects.

Is there a pin check, voltage check function on your prog?

I would try to read this with UPA.
I also have EZP2010 but normally i prefer UPA so that i can change those settings like you mention.
I just need to confirm the pinout so that i can connect this.
I'm sorry but I'm still new at this and still learning.
And i didnt want to fuc..... This up...
Thanks

[narkeleptk]

Whats confusing me its the "ground" pin...

Yes, Its pretty odd and I do not have an answer for you sorry. Personally I'd wire skim up on bench and check it with oscope to see whats going with it. If your not able to do that you could just try to hook eeprom connections mirrored with datasheet. I wouldn't try to read in circuit.

The user in last post of link rob h gave you suggests 5-8 go to the mcu. I can't really make out the mcu but if your able to get a datasheet on it then you can see what the pins 5-8 go to.
That 4274DV is a 5v VR so its possible the 66M is still just a 3v VR for the mcu and the eeprom you actually need is internal to the mcu.
Maybe try and pm that user in rob h's link and see if they ever got it sorted.
I'll look around some more when I have time so please update if you find anything.

[boxsport]

Yes, Its pretty odd and I do not have an answer for you sorry. Personally I'd wire skim up on bench and check it with oscope to see whats going with it. If your not able to do that you could just try to hook eeprom connections mirrored with datasheet. I wouldn't try to read in circuit.

The user in last post of link rob h gave you suggests 5-8 go to the mcu. I can't really make out the mcu but if your able to get a datasheet on it then you can see what the pins 5-8 go to.
That 4274DV is a 5v VR so its possible the 66M is still just a 3v VR for the mcu and the eeprom you actually need is internal to the mcu.
Maybe try and pm that user in rob h's link and see if they ever got it sorted.
I'll look around some more when I have time so please update if you find anything.

Thanks. I will. Will try to contact the other user to see if the can tell me anything also...

[sleepyrz]

5026221AQ


get one of these and replace it?

this is the new part number for that SKIM part

[boxsport]

5026221AQ


get one of these and replace it?

this is the new part number for that SKIM part

yes i need to search for that option to... lets see if i can get one here in town to test with...
Yesterday i also found that i have some pcb that i can solder this chip on it and read with the programmer, but i just need to make sure i have the pinout correctly so i dont mess with the data on it...
still waiting for the answer of the other user...

[narkeleptk]

yes i need to search for that option to... lets see if i can get one here in town to test with...
Yesterday i also found that i have some pcb that i can solder this chip on it and read with the programmer, but i just need to make sure i have the pinout correctly so i dont mess with the data on it...
still waiting for the answer of the other user...

Don't be afraid to experiment with it. Mess up data or not doesn't matter much. Right now you have nothing and its easy to fix with replacement file or unit at worst case.

[boxsport]

Don't be afraid to experiment with it. Mess up data or not doesn't matter much. Right now you have nothing and its easy to fix with replacement file or unit at worst case.

I dont have problems on testing or making experiments... Actually i want to do that.
But since this is for a 2nd key, i need to be sure or i need to have the other unit with me...
I´m trying to find one of those units here in town to see if i can do some testes on it. At least see if i could get any communication for programming with my FVDI tool.
I will keep you posted...
Still no answer from the other user...

Thanks

[camelgd]

I know this might not be too relevant and very late to the discussion, I did 2006 Ram about two hours ago, add key after pulling pin number with Autek tool. Tried APP, kp819, then Autek, which lists 2 key types, used type 1. My apologies if this is irrelevant to your situation.

[boxsport]

I know this might not be too relevant and very late to the discussion, I did 2006 Ram about two hours ago, add key after pulling pin number with Autek tool. Tried APP, kp819, then Autek, which lists 2 key types, used type 1. My apologies if this is irrelevant to your situation.

Not a problem. I appreciate the feedback and comments...
I dont have Autek so i need to try and sort this out with the tool i got for the moment...
I had to assemble the SKIM to the truck because they needed the truck, but i´m trying to get a new/different SKIM module to see if i can replace it and have the 2nd key programmed...
so, this is something i will be working in the next days (if i´m able to find this module to work with)...

[sleepyrz]

Clone
The
Key

[boxsport]

Clone
The
Key

already tried that. but the tools i have for some reason cant clone that key... or i´m too dumm to know how to do it...
but i will keep trying to sort this out...
Thanks

[sleepyrz]

What tools do you have for cloning?

[boxsport]

What tools do you have for cloning?

Hello there. sorry for the late repply...
been kind of super busy with my design work, mechanics and wife+kids here at home...
The only tools i have to clone is the chinese Zedbull and FVDI2018.
i already tried but i cant seem to be able to clone this key.... probably i´m still to dum to do this...
i also have carprog but i dont think it can actually clone keys...

Thanks

[narkeleptk]

Those would not be able to to clone it

[boxsport]

Those would not be able to to clone it

Yes, i thought so...
I need to see how i can sort this out.... not sure how, but thanks anyway...

[rob h]

Dodge 2006

B1A25 invalid key
B2204 ecu configuration mismatch


56040659AJ immobox

This car has been abandoned, for many years.

The small eeprom, i removed from the immobox. I tried reading it. ( the marking on the eeprom 66M596 )
When read, with orange5, it states all pins ok. But gives me all oooooooooooooooooooooo.
I soldered it down, to make sure all pins connect well, choosen 24C16 seemed ok.

Either, i am not reading it correct, or it is empty.
Caused by a battery drain, or rough power up.

Does someone have a dump?

[narkeleptk]

What make model is it from? I dont have that exact one but I have a lot 24c16 ones from 06-10. one may still work for you.

[rob h]

973260973261
A 2006 Dodge Ram.
ecu 56040659AJ
immobox 56029208AK

[rob h]

We replaced the immobox.
Same partnumber.

It allreay had a vin programmed,
Pin code 0000
And 0 keys.

With pin 0000 i could reprogram the cars ori key.
Remote key now works.

The ori immobox, i could not reprogram the keys.
So there is improvement.

Launch, did not change the vin, in this immobox.
I will need to find a way, perhaps with cda6, to change vin and pin.

[swappart]

I've been struggling with one of these myself. The EEPROM (66M) is a 93C66 (16 bit) mirrored. Pinout is
1: VCC
2: NC
3: ORG
4: VSS
5: DO
6: DI
7: CLK
8: CS

VIN doesn't appear to be in the EEPROM. The MCU is a Renesas M301N2F8TFP. I can't seem to find a programmer that can read and write it though.

[rob h]

Launch does connect.
And so does obdstar.

Alfaobd, and cda6 dont connect to this wcim.

i will have a look at the wiring first.

I could not connect on a bench setup.
Perhaps it need a bcm signal (Module totally integrated power)

1-8 pin connector immobox
pin3 F20) FUSED IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT (RUN/START)
pin4 Z914 ground
pin5 A412 FUSED B(+)
pin6 D65) CAN C Bus (+)
pin7 D64) CAN C Bus (-)

All these lead to the Module totally integrated power.
And in the obd connector there are 2 canbus C
obd pin01 CAN C Bus (+)
obd pin13 CAN C Bus (-)

[alex_r_2001]

Launch does connect.
And so does obdstar.

Alfaobd, and cda6 dont connect to this wcim.

i will have a look at the wiring first.

I could not connect on a bench setup.
Perhaps it need a bcm signal (Module totally integrated power)

1-8 pin connector immobox
pin3 F20) FUSED IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT (RUN/START)
pin4 Z914 ground
pin5 A412 FUSED B(+)
pin6 D65) CAN C Bus (+)
pin7 D64) CAN C Bus (-)

All these lead to the Module totally integrated power.
And in the obd connector there are 2 canbus C
obd pin01 CAN C Bus (+)
obd pin13 CAN C Bus (-)

All signals are multiplexed within the tipm... tipm is needed to establish comms..common... goodluck

[rob h]

The car starts, with the ori wcm.

It still did have the ori vin.
I reprogrammed vin, to wcm, and programmed a new key.
Then reprogrammed the pcm.
Pcm config dtc remains.
All done with Launch.

The replacement immobox, i could not change the vin.
Because cda6 did not connect to it.
Perhaps now that the car starts.
So i can give cda6 another go. And same goes for Alfaobd.

[camelgd]

IM508, IM608, autopropad will rewrite pin and vin. Old school T300, even chinese versions can rewrite vin. Easiest is IM508.

[rob h]

Something strange with this car. Cda6 connected with all modules. except the old and replacement wcm, same goes for alfaobd.


So not sure, if launch failed. It did worked on restoring the ori wcm.
i do have a T300,
Autel i can pickup, if i believe it would do any better than my launch.

I need to ad a second key. Maybe i find some time,

[camelgd]

Must have old pin and new pin to rewrite vin and pin- I have one I'm in the middle of 2005 300 chrysler, the owner is tracking down vin from donor vehicle to have back up method of getting old pin from dealer, can be pulled with several different tools if you can connect to vehicle. T300 isn't the easiest to use. but this might help-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5aZNUR2Ta0

[rob h]

I can read old wcm pin, and replacement wcm with obdstar.
The replacement wcm, did already have a vin programmed, pin 0000. and 0 keys.

I suspect a poor can c connection. Now that the car starts (this might not last.)
There must be a reason, why i can not connect with cda6 and alfaobd, to both wcms.
And not succesful change vin in replacement unit

[camelgd]

Finished 300 Chrysler today- and did a 2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee as well. IM508 would not pull pin on on the Jeep, so I did job with Autopropad.