2016 Nissan Rogue Smart key not programming

[madsci69]

Has anyone encountered an issue with a Nissan Rogue not taking smart key programming? I've tried with several keys, including brand new OEM. I am able to get the ignition on and scan it, and there is only one error code in the transmission, which I can't imagine affecting key programming (though it is a Nissan so, it wouldn't surprise me).

It goes through the full programming sequence until you are supposed to contact the start button with the key. Normally it would light up to show the key is accepted, but the vehicle refuses to accept any key. I am aware of problems with certain BCM in the Nissan, but it doesn't seem to be dead. I can scan it still, and it is showing to be without fault. I checked interior fuses which were okay. I am able to get ignition signal. What is going on? These are usually a fast, easy job, but this vehicle is stressing me out.

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[Manta1600]

is it AKL or add key?

I had the same situaion week ago with Juke 2014 AKL - no luck

[RG550]

What tools / diagnostics you are using for programming ?

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[Manta1600]

What tools / diagnostics you are using for programming ?

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I tried Truecode and Autel im608

[jodge]

oooooooookaaay it seems i found an another nail in the nissan smart keylearning coffin. :coat:

[madsci69]

Yes it's akl. I tried autel, autopropad and hot wire. It goes complete into programming mode, but keys are not accepted. The start button flashes, and you go to make contact with the button. Not one key would get accepted and the dash to light, even OEM.

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[elite13]

You're very lucky it was not an add a key, the customer working key wouldn't have worked either and you could have been blamed for it as the customer came in with a working key
this phenomena is unique to the rogue 14-17,not all but certain BCM with a specific part number,even the dealer with their own scan tool have the same issue , for some unknown reason the BCM simply would not accept any keys ,the only solution is to replace it $$$... I'd rather not take my chances on those ,not worth it

[jodge]

You're very lucky it was not an add a key, the customer working key wouldn't have worked either and you could have been blamed for it as the customer came in with a working key
this phenomena is unique to the rogue 14-16,not all but certain BCM with a specific part number,even the dealer with their own scan tool have the same issue , for some unknown reason the BCM simply would not accept any keys ,the only solution is to replace it $$$... I'd rather not take my chances on those ,not worth it

do you have info about the affected BCM version or versions?

[elite13]

284B1-4BA1A and 284B1-4BA5A are an example but as i mentioned they might work fine or get bricked, it's not any tool fault this could happen with the dealer too.

[Manta1600]

284B1-4BA1A and 284B1-4BA5A are an example but as i mentioned they might work fine or get bricked, it's not any tool fault this could happen with the dealer too.

Around what years are afected cars? 2014-2017?

is it possible to face Qashqai J10 with this problem 2008-2013?

[jodge]

284B1-4BA1A and 284B1-4BA5A are an example but as i mentioned they might work fine or get bricked, it's not any tool fault this could happen with the dealer too.


thx they are here too probably based on the same problem
https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/776775-Nissan-Qashqai-X-Trail-Rogue-Smart-Key-BCM-s-That-Are-Dangerous?highlight=nissan+bcm

[rapidlocksmiths]

Around what years are afected cars? 2014-2017?

is it possible to face Qashqai J10 with this problem 2008-2013?

qashqai j10 is fine and no issues , the qashqai issue is with j11 models using smart key .

juke are normally fine , but when touching the key it must touch dash to side of button rather than the button itself

when you get a bad bcm , it gets stuck in programming mode , no keys work until bcm and steering lock replaced

[TERMINATOR1000]

qashqai j10 is fine and no issues , the qashqai issue is with j11 models using smart key .

juke are normally fine , but when touching the key it must touch dash to side of button rather than the button itself

when you get a bad bcm , it gets stuck in programming mode , no keys work until bcm and steering lock replaced

Nissan J11 , Juke 20 digit PIN code , better is to past !:coat2:

[rapidlocksmiths]

the issue is best known to affect qashqai j11 , xtrail t32 and rogue models , smart keys only , those using flips are fine .

battery support is essential to maintain constant voltage if having a go

[madsci69]

Ok but for this vehicle, it is not staying stuck in programming mode. It eventually exits the programming mode after a certain number of failed programming attempts. But I've tried half a dozen keys and none of them are getting accepted. I think after about 4 attempts it exits programming mode and I can try again, but the keys never take.

I will recheck the part number, but when I had initially it hasn't been a part of the bad BCM that I had known. But I see there are more models than I had to reference so the BCM could be an issue. But it is not an issue of staying stuck in programming mode.

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[Asifmehmmod1]

its most likely key is faulty if it is existing the programing mode.

[madsci69]

I guess I am not certain if the symptoms are for the bad BCM. I read the forum posting about the vehicles not accepting keys, but from others the say it accepts the keys but won't exit programing mode.

As a solution, could you write virgin data to the ECU and BCM? Has anyone attempted this?

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[madsci69]

the issue is best known to affect qashqai j11 , xtrail t32 and rogue models , smart keys only , those using flips are fine .

battery support is essential to maintain constant voltage if having a goI know on the AutoProPad it gave me a set of known faulty BCM modules, and the one I had was not a part of it. Is there a more comprehensive list, or are all module susceptible to an extent? I have programmed several Rogues in these model years with no issue, so I had been lured into a false sense of security.

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[rapidlocksmiths]

the lists are of bcm that are known to have caused issues , but some have had success on most on the list and others havnt , so its a lottery , you will win some and lose some , i suspect theres alot that are still unknown . at end of day you need to decide if profit is good enough for when one goes tits up and choose to take the risk or not

[mojomojo]

fcc id of your prox? should end 4106?

[madsci69]

fcc id of your prox? should end 4106?Yes 4106. I have tried with several, including OEM but none were accepted. As I read into it more I believe that the BCM is at fault. I'm am interested in exploring solutions outside of the dealership.

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[madsci69]

the lists are of bcm that are known to have caused issues , but some have had success on most on the list and others havnt , so its a lottery , you will win some and lose some , i suspect theres alot that are still unknown . at end of day you need to decide if profit is good enough for when one goes tits up and choose to take the risk or notYes, I had been lured into a false sense of security since I had previously made keys for the new Rogue with no issue, I believed the issue to only be with those select BCM. It is concerning to know that any vehicle could be susceptible.

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[mojomojo]

with your Autel go under diag menu and read bcm details

[madsci69]

with your Autel go under diag menu and read bcm detailsWill this tell me if it is faulty? I was able to scan in diag and it seems to be okay, no faults.

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[madsci69]

I have the part number from BCM. I have more or less given up on it. It warns me for other BCM faults, but this one it does not. But it seems to be in programming mode without accepting any keys. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200516/99154c03ef7fee048f92091ad101fc9e.jpg

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[alex_r_2001]

I had a 2016 Nissan Rogue that had a similar issue... It was a no start customer had 2 keys.. No ignition but proximity worked fine .... I erased to relearn keys still not work so I printed out wiring diagrams and checked can bus lines as well as all power distribution points.. In the end problem was the main fuse block that goes to positive post ... One of the links had low voltage but was not blown. battery side of fuse 12.7 volts other side of fuse 7.6 volts... I replaced fuse link post and was able to reprogram in all the keys and car started fine...

Problem was BCM was seeing full voltage but IPDM was seeing 7.6 volts.. With BCM seeing voltage drop on ipdm it was determining that while BCM was in Off state IPDM was in On state and not letting car start or even doing another programming attemp...

[madsci69]

I had a 2016 Nissan Rogue that had a similar issue... It was a no start customer had 2 keys.. No ignition but proximity worked fine .... I erased to relearn keys still not work so I printed out wiring diagrams and checked can bus lines as well as all power distribution points.. In the end problem was the main fuse block that goes to positive post ... One of the links had low voltage but was not blown. battery side of fuse 12.7 volts other side of fuse 7.6 volts... I replaced fuse link post and was able to reprogram in all the keys and car started fine...

Problem was BCM was seeing full voltage but IPDM was seeing 7.6 volts.. With BCM seeing voltage drop on ipdm it was determining that while BCM was in Off state IPDM was in On state and not letting car start or even doing another programming attemp...Very interesting. I will see about checking this. I had checked to see that all fuses were in functional condition but I will see if maybe there is an issue there. The customer lost their keys, but beforehand they were still able to drive the vehicle, so I am not sure if it will work here, but it is something to look at.

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