View Full Version : VVDI Key Tool Plus Pad Coming Soon New tool !
Seby_TM
23rd October, 2020, 01:44 PM
Hi all members from DK.
I want to start new discussion regarding this new tool what need to came out from Xhorse " VVDI Key Tool Plus Pad ", from some years are in discussion to take out in the market this new tool, but until now not in the market, I hope to get out more soon to see what can do this tool.
I know are only in testing for the moment and see some information's in some blogs.
Some of standard functions
1: Support transponder copying/clone
2: Identify almost transponder in market
3: Support re-programming almost transponder in market
4: New remote re-generating / new remote making
If someone Know more information regarding this interesting tool can writhe here.
What can do more in + like another tools, new funtions, ... ?
When will be released if some one know or have some correct information's ?
Will have or include also functions from tools like IM608, Lonsdor 518, Obdstar, Xtool, VVDI2, AVDI, ..... ?
Will support also diagnostic tool like Autel IM608, .... ?
Best regards.
Seby_TM
paul_12345
23rd October, 2020, 01:54 PM
Too little too late??? Hope they still support vvdi2 vvdi mb etc rather than adding it all to the tablet.
Seby_TM
23rd October, 2020, 02:12 PM
Too little too late??? Hope they still support vvdi2 vvdi mb etc rather than adding it all to the tablet.
I know will support VVDI2 functions if will buy it with activation what you want or what you need for him.
For users what have now VVDI2 will have possibility to transfer in future functions activation's from VVDI2 to this tool pad, in this case the old hardware VVDI2 will be unless and will not worked in future if will be done the transfer of functions to pad tool.
fred77
23rd October, 2020, 02:50 PM
Yeah 2 little 2 late.
Flooded Market of Chinese tablets and last thing we want is another.
Xhorse products r excellent, but have nack of re-selling same features -
How about -
* FSB4 ?? Mercedes 2014+ coverage
* Better VAG/ token support nothing touched my 2016 Caddy today
* Better BMW support see 1 user was left with buggered up car
Bet we get another IM608 with Xhorsse sticker ....and thread saying "going to be top programmer" :)
Seby_TM
24th November, 2020, 07:12 PM
Yes is the same functions from another tools add in one single tool, the problem is to work correct all functions in one tool, is hard to make all in one tool, need more time for develop and for test it.
I think will add existing functions from all tools used now from Xhorse, like VVDI2 full, VVDI key tool, VVDI prog, VVDI key Max, in future I think will add more functions from another tools like AVDI, FVDI, SVCI, IM608, LONSDOR, TmPro2, Tango,Xtool, Obdstar, and another tools .... and will be in one brand made it by Xhorse, I am curios if will add or generate some new functions what not exist in another tool until now, to be some new news from Xhorse.
In the time I find this information.
https://www.xhorsevvdi.com/upload/pro/20111816057562834595.jpg
WhiteHatLox
24th November, 2020, 07:45 PM
The price point is too cheap for what the capabilities are. Makes no sense.
p1et
24th November, 2020, 10:31 PM
The price point is too cheap for what the capabilities are. Makes no sense.
Welcome in todays world
K1nd3r
24th November, 2020, 11:37 PM
price will down more, any news? i think no
Seby_TM
25th November, 2020, 09:35 PM
In the time I find some response at some questions here http://blog.xhorsevvdi.com/xhorse-vvdi-key-tool-plus-frequently-asked-questions-and-answers-faq/
tagirdn
28th November, 2020, 08:24 PM
New , just the design. All collected in one box.
And the prices are lowered by genetic freaks.
And in many ways, forum users contribute to this.
Read the forum. No tool, immediately help the Client, immediately help.
But thanks are collected
super jumbe
28th November, 2020, 11:36 PM
Would have love to buy on Blackfriday with 20% off they say this tool with do all BMW and Merc Hhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
sleepyrz
29th November, 2020, 06:19 PM
Video
Mb add key
https://youtu.be/EgwjZK7waGc
sleepyrz
29th November, 2020, 06:25 PM
https://youtu.be/-91uYFEKMwY
Video vw key match
sleepyrz
29th November, 2020, 06:26 PM
Bmw cas4
https://youtu.be/bFa9IIvp_K8
sleepyrz
29th November, 2020, 06:28 PM
Match toyota smart key
https://youtu.be/zgt0zGThZLc
sleepyrz
29th November, 2020, 06:29 PM
Landover Kim read
https://youtu.be/NhxsPuE2VNc
super jumbe
29th November, 2020, 06:36 PM
https://youtu.be/-91uYFEKMwY
Video vw key match
Briliant wish videos were in English thanks any were.
drugowaz
29th November, 2020, 07:49 PM
Nobody talks about tokens,anual updates etc. All is free?
tagirdn
29th November, 2020, 07:52 PM
Most likely, there will be an annual subscription.
Seby_TM
1st December, 2020, 08:58 PM
Video
Mb add key
https://youtu.be/EgwjZK7waGc
Nice, but is a little too complicated the procedure, will be nice if can make it more simple the procedure if is possible if not you can lost in this steps.
ramboguy2008
15th January, 2021, 09:56 PM
Most likely, there will be an annual subscription.
i dont think so , same as vvdi2 and vvdi mb it is free update
Rglisse
19th January, 2021, 08:31 PM
hello everyone, any news about the testing of the tool? does it really do what it promises?
Fallen
21st January, 2021, 08:46 AM
I've had a play with one.
So far it does not do anything that other stand alone Xhorse tools can do.
It's like all of their tools rolled into one, but not as good as having the stand alone tools.
The programmer is not as powerful as VVDIprog for example, it does not have as many options or have the ability to read the same processors easily.
For example, it askes you to cut tracks when reading CAS4 where as VVDI prog reads without cutting tracks.
You can't do VW all keys lost at the moment using this tool if you are outside China because you can't buy the tokens to process the data without WeChat, an app which is restricted to Chinese citizens only.
On a plus side, the tool is very well built with plenty of potential.
It doesn't have a USB port which is a pain when it comes to transferring data to and from it.
crazylou2017
2nd February, 2021, 09:40 AM
This article is on how to transfer data from a pc to key tool plus (http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2021/02/01/how-to-move-files-from-pc-to-vvdi-key-tool-plus/)
Fallen
4th February, 2021, 09:22 AM
This article is on how to transfer data from a pc to key tool plus (http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2021/02/01/how-to-move-files-from-pc-to-vvdi-key-tool-plus/)
Log into a website half a world away so you can upload data from a computer to a tablet sitting next to each other.
You know what's easier than that? Copying the data onto a USB and plugging it into the tablet and copying it to the tablet.
I bought a USB-C to USB adapter and tried to do it that way but the tablet won't recognize the USB.
This means the tablet was designed to try and force users to route all the data through the website.
What was so good about the Xhorse tools so far it that it let users do what they wanted, this is a step in the wrong directing I feel.
darrenhyland
5th February, 2021, 09:34 PM
I'm in two minds whether to buy the new pad or mb and Bim tools separately.....any advice? I have vvdi2 full and vvdi prog as well as the mini tool.
super jumbe
5th February, 2021, 11:56 PM
:wink:
I presume most already using this tool anyone can update what’s working and not working thanks.:excitement::excitement::excitement:
kemaster
6th February, 2021, 10:18 AM
I've had a play with one.
So far it does not do anything that other stand alone Xhorse tools can do.
It's like all of their tools rolled into one, but not as good as having the stand alone tools.
Old nut in new shell is a well played game by some manufactures. A way to earn the people's money
Weasel3
7th February, 2021, 12:39 AM
I'm in two minds whether to buy the new pad or mb and Bim tools separately.....any advice? I have vvdi2 full and vvdi prog as well as the mini tool.
There is two versions of this model.
Full and Basic.
With the Basic version you dont get MB, BMW and VAG. Maybe some other stuff which is already covered with VVDI2. Not sure what they do with Porsche.
So there is a way to keep you old PRO tools, and still get the pad at a lower cost.
They say its supposed to be free updates. And only the expensive developed updates like FBS4 will be charged a fee.
Also if you have made a lots of keys with the VVDI MB or generated a lot of keys with Xhorse key tool.
You get points.
You can use these points to get a discount, on the product. Not sure how many points
Info at the bottom of this page: https://www.eobdtool.co.uk/wholesale/xhorse-vvdi-key-tool-plus-pad.html?f=pkxk
So if someone already have the VVDI MB and the VVDI2 full. And are happy with them as they are.
Which is said to be more of a professional tool for Locksmiths.
And the other will be more of a all-round-tool. Will be more OBD diagnostics available, on the PAD in the future also.
You can purchase the Basic version. And keep your old tools, as they are.
Or also you can transfer the license over to the new pad. And old products will continue to work for 6 months. Together with the new PAD now full with MB and VVDI2 license.
And after 6 months the old products will no longer activate. And will be out of order.
Personally i would not like to transfer license. I am happy with the items today.
Maybe a larger risk of bugs also. When all in one place. Instead of separate tools.
So at the moment the BASIC version, is the one I would go for.
But I have not read much about it.
Have not found them on the web yet.
Hopefully there will be more info coming up, in the near future.
Manta1600
8th February, 2021, 10:44 AM
There is two versions of this model.
Full and Basic.
With the Basic version you dont get MB, BMW and VAG. Maybe some other stuff which is already covered with VVDI2. Not sure what they do with Porsche.
So there is a way to keep you old PRO tools, and still get the pad at a lower cost.
They say its supposed to be free updates. And only the expensive developed updates like FBS4 will be charged a fee.
Also if you have made a lots of keys with the VVDI MB or generated a lot of keys with Xhorse key tool.
You get points.
You can use these points to get a discount, on the product. Not sure how many points
Info at the bottom of this page: https://www.eobdtool.co.uk/wholesale/xhorse-vvdi-key-tool-plus-pad.html?f=pkxk
So if someone already have the VVDI MB and the VVDI2 full. And are happy with them as they are.
Which is said to be more of a professional tool for Locksmiths.
And the other will be more of a all-round-tool. Will be more OBD diagnostics available, on the PAD in the future also.
You can purchase the Basic version. And keep your old tools, as they are.
Or also you can transfer the license over to the new pad. And old products will continue to work for 6 months. Together with the new PAD now full with MB and VVDI2 license.
And after 6 months the old products will no longer activate. And will be out of order.
Personally i would not like to transfer license. I am happy with the items today.
Maybe a larger risk of bugs also. When all in one place. Instead of separate tools.
So at the moment the BASIC version, is the one I would go for.
But I have not read much about it.
Have not found them on the web yet.
Hopefully there will be more info coming up, in the near future.
For what you will use the basic?
If one day they released the FBS4 maybe will not work on the basic
Few days ago I bought used MVP pro just for few cars on the price near the price on this pad
If this pad can't give me one new car what is the reason to buy it?
Weasel3
8th February, 2021, 11:21 AM
For what you will use the basic?
If one day they released the FBS4 maybe will not work on the basic
Few days ago I bought used MVP pro just for few cars on the price near the price on this pad
If this pad can't give me one new car what is the reason to buy it?
I will get the FSB4 update on my VVDI MB instead. Which also needs to be paid for, to get it.
But they will give (or claims to do so, as one time Londsdor/AVDI did) free updates on all other brands.
Which is not MB, BMW VAG and maybe Porsche.
If I get free updates on the rest with IMMO. And also its getting developed with OBD diagnostic functions in the near future.
And lower price since its the Basic version. And also bonus points after generated VVDI MB key and Xhorse keys.
The price might be at a level, which can be defended to purchase the product.
Already have VVDI MB, VVDI2 full and IM tool with MB (which has a quite expensive subscription each year)
So dont want a third option with MB, which is the same as my first tool. (VVDI MB)
Manta1600
8th February, 2021, 12:39 PM
I will get the FSB4 update on my VVDI MB instead. Which also needs to be paid for, to get it.
But they will give (or claims to do so, as one time Londsdor/AVDI did) free updates on all other brands.
Which is not MB, BMW VAG and maybe Porsche.
If I get free updates on the rest with IMMO. And also its getting developed with OBD diagnostic functions in the near future.
And lower price since its the Basic version. And also bonus points after generated VVDI MB key and Xhorse keys.
The price might be at a level, which can be defended to purchase the product.
Already have VVDI MB, VVDI2 full and IM tool with MB (which has a quite expensive subscription each year)
So dont want a third option with MB, which is the same as my first tool. (VVDI MB)
I will buy this pad only if they are the only company that have FSB4
for MB I have Autel and Poldiag
for BMW Autohex VVDI2 and Autel
for VAG VVDI2 and Autel
Weasel3
8th February, 2021, 07:23 PM
I will buy this pad only if they are the only company that have FSB4
for MB I have Autel and Poldiag
for BMW Autohex VVDI2 and Autel
for VAG VVDI2 and Autel
I am quite sure that when they release the FSB4.
Is gone be on both platforms, PAD and the original tool.
Its only script. They can manage to do this on both tool.
Manta1600
8th February, 2021, 09:00 PM
I am quite sure that when they release the FSB4.
Is gone be on both platforms, PAD and the original tool.
Its only script. They can manage to do this on both tool.
And on the same time all other will release FSB4
super jumbe
8th February, 2021, 10:31 PM
I will buy this pad only if they are the only company that have FSB4
Lost my self what is FSB4 Manta!!!
super jumbe
8th February, 2021, 10:52 PM
FSB4 found out its for merc.
Fallen
9th February, 2021, 07:48 AM
This tool programmed a remote on a 2019 Subaru today.
Lonsdor and X100DP both failed to communicate with the car.
Ecuprog31
9th February, 2021, 11:07 PM
Hello
is it worth to buy or what ?
nazz2
10th February, 2021, 01:31 PM
Guys need your opinion pls, i have only vvdi2 MB+vvdi prog, is it best buying the full pad or vvdi2 full? Does the vvdi pad programs keys to other brand of cars? any list ? Thanks
darrenhyland
10th February, 2021, 02:31 PM
After reading XHorse official statement I would stick with stand alone tools which will be supported well into the future and are geared more towards the pro end of things. The pad is geared towards being a general all rounder.
u.s
10th February, 2021, 04:54 PM
i would stick with separate tools too, if pad goes faulty then you're down three tools
super jumbe
10th February, 2021, 09:01 PM
Can someone confirm does this tool make golf 2017 key AKL????? :watch:
fred77
10th February, 2021, 09:10 PM
Xhorse are good at selling same stuff on diff tools.
And guaranteed now not able to buy from china instead expensive own country distributors
Think u lot are knobs for getting so excited - maybe all newcomers expecting buy 1-tool-does-all
------------
BRING US FSB4 - INSTEAD OF NEW MACHINES !!!!!!!!!
fred77
10th February, 2021, 09:12 PM
Can someone confirm does this tool make golf 2017 key AKL????? :watch:
mate did u not hear these tools work by token check out AVDI post there was talk of shutting down loophole by dealer
Seby_TM
24th February, 2021, 10:37 PM
I see for read ID48 and MB Key password online will need token, but both can read xhorse bonus points.
janake
25th February, 2021, 08:28 AM
VVDI Pad has DoIp protocol communications :manutop:
super jumbe
6th March, 2021, 11:41 AM
Any one with more news on VVDI pad surprise us thanks........
janake
24th March, 2021, 09:24 AM
Lots info here http://blog.xhorsevvdi.com/tag/xhorse-vvdi-key-tool-plus/
crazylou2017
24th March, 2021, 09:52 AM
Guys need your opinion pls, i have only vvdi2 MB+vvdi prog, is it best buying the full pad or vvdi2 full? Does the vvdi pad programs keys to other brand of cars? any list ? Thanks
Here: VVDI Pad car list for other brands (https://blog.uobdii.com/vvdi-key-tool-plus-key-programmer-advantages-car-function-list/).
Fallen
24th March, 2021, 06:09 PM
Ok, here is a bit of an issue I have told support about but they have done nothing about.
If you have to type anything into the data fields, there is no way to tab to the next field or hide the keyboard!
You can't install any other keyboards because it wont let you.
Xhorse support on Skype have not answered any questions or addressed any issues for weeks.
It's honestly hard to recommend this tool at the moment which is a shame.
super jumbe
24th March, 2021, 08:37 PM
Will have to think again before purchasing........
autoTkey
25th March, 2021, 07:04 AM
Is there no way to bring up the standard Android bottom buttons bar?
Fallen
25th March, 2021, 01:16 PM
Is there no way to bring up the standard Android bottom buttons bar?
I've tried everything. Android usually has an arrow button on the keyboard where you can press it to hide the keyboard or swipe it down.
davorOS
25th March, 2021, 10:27 PM
hi
I can't find any info on Volvo kayprogramming for twist ignition key like S50 or V40 2005-2007 ID 48, can you make for these cars or only for Id46 slot keys?
Fallen
26th March, 2021, 06:52 AM
hi
I can't find any info on Volvo kayprogramming for twist ignition key like S50 or V40 2005-2007 ID 48, can you make for these cars or only for Id46 slot keys?
Most customers want a remote key and that can't be done unless you have an online Vida account.
Most twist can be done by dump but the juice is not really worth the squeeze.
davorOS
26th March, 2021, 08:24 AM
Yes I neee remote key but I see that lonsdor do these can you do it with VVDI?
if I have bar code for remote?
Fallen
26th March, 2021, 12:30 PM
From what I understand, all barcoded remotes still have to have a software upload/download to program.
Meaning that the module is wiped and then re-flashed online using software downloaded from the Volvo servers containing the new software.
Weasel3
27th March, 2021, 11:25 PM
When you get your tool.
Check the MB IR reading at once.
Found this new released video, of a person reporting that the IR reader/reading does not work.
So I guess its smart to keep the old VVDI stuff also.
Not selling, because a new and fancy tool has arrived.
And now this bloke, need to send the new tool back. Hopefully not all the way to China.
Its not a pleasant thing to do, when waiting like a child for the new tools to arrive.
And get this rather boring surprise.
It can upset each and everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mK5fzE1aRw
Edit Update:
I was to fast.
It seems to be solved in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vUplATZ-YE
Supas
16th November, 2021, 02:38 PM
Hi everyone!
It's been a while since the release of this team ... and I would like to know what you think TODAY about the IMPORTANT differences (such as the possibility of editing the configuration value in an inmodata of the VAG group or the ID of keys, etc) What is there between having the Key Tool Plus or having the VVDI2 Full + VVDI MB + VVDIPROG equipment separately.
And above all ... VVDI2 Full + VVDI MB + VVDIPROG are they going to stop releasing updates or adapters for these teams? are they going to be put aside so that everyone can buy the Key Tool Plus since there are new things that they won't be able to do if they don't have this Key tool plus?
Thanks
Greeting
qwojtus
17th November, 2021, 09:30 AM
I try to use it every day
I like:
Very fast and convenient hardware. It does system operation in seconds - I love it.
Built in the Mercedes keys and chip reader is spot on. If you are doing any operation, you don’t need drag any usb, obd or extra interface like a spider web.
It has vizard mode for MB keys if someone like.
Battery holds for ages and being charge quickly via OBD.
Not sure:
Lots functions missing from other VVDI devices eg: MB - mileage calibration, VVDI2 – bcm2 or ecu calculator missing, VVDI prog – lots missing.
Updates not very often and not relevant eg: update condor or key tool database which is not very important for me.
Not a lot immo updates so lots, lots cars is missing and no hope will be done soon. Ordinary Reno or opal you wont be able to programme many. Shame still need to use something else for it.
You can’t create new folder when saving file from programmer and after is difficult to find it. This doing saving where it wants. This is very inconvenient as I have to always spent too much time on the file explorer - rename and search for it.
Don’t really understand why do I need Condor of Key tool on it. User should be able to delate it. It is to huge to generate chip or remote and not doing any better than little devices.
It looks like does not support usb pendrive.
BMW still lack of ISN function, still many CAS3 not supported. Unable to restore downgraded flashes, no programming or coding or basic diagnostic – 100 years behind competitors.
FEM – very inconvenient operation on the service eeprom. You need to disolder and solder to special adapter – so I don’t like it.
MB everything the same – recently server issues for the calculation but I think it is for everyone.
It has MB W163 remote programming added but not the chip.
Please note. Im not any tester or expert of it. This is ordinary user so if any doubts please check with the support.
In my opinion you can’t use it instead of all xhorse devices but I like it and wish it going to be best thing in the entire world.
Weasel3
17th November, 2021, 12:00 PM
I prefer to have double kit.
The pad and the rest of horse kit.
And other programmers.
Its often some small issue. Which give a problem.
Then its good, to have backup solutions.
Supas
17th November, 2021, 12:31 PM
I prefer to have double kit.
The pad and the rest of horse kit.
And other programmers.
Its often some small issue. Which give a problem.
Then its good, to have backup solutions.
I agree! I too would like to have everything double ...
but if you have to decide an option between the key tool plus and the vvdi 3 tool kit ... that's the question that many ask themselves ... and why?
I understand that the 3 individual tools are more complete and professional than the key tool plus. But will these tools continue to be updated? they also say that individual tools give problems with an internal battery, did one happen to you?
For now I have vvdiprog and it is a tool that I recommend 100%
darrenhyland
18th November, 2021, 01:16 AM
I have the three tools and until they are made redundant by xhorse because of no updates they will remain my primary kit. I won't buy the tablet until it has a proven track record and support and updates are a certainty.
autoTkey
18th November, 2021, 07:58 AM
Yeah but when this happens it will probably be replaced by the VVDI3-Laptop :D
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