nsuperlock Tibbe lock pick and decoder

[rob h]

nsuperlock tibbe decoder

783278

Does anyone use this tool?



1> one is for tibbe locks which are driven by No.1 disc. (they recomend this one for the European market)
2>one is for tibbe locks which are driven by No.4 disc.


Can i use it on the ignition lock, without it getting stuck?
It appears easier to read off accurated, even on worn locks.

[super jumbe]

nsuperlock tibbe decoder

783278

Does anyone use this tool?



1> one is for tibbe locks which are driven by No.1 disc. (they recomend this one for the European market)
2>one is for tibbe locks which are driven by No.4 disc.


Can i use it on the ignition lock, without it getting stuck?
It appears easier to read off accurated, even on worn locks.

Great need a ginny pig.....

[p1et]

nsuperlock tibbe decoder

1> one is for tibbe locks which are driven by No.1 disc. (they recomend this one for the European market)
2>one is for tibbe locks which are driven by No.4 disc.



What is that mean 'driven by disc' ?

[lion0304]

I've bought the chinese lishi FO21, but never get any to use yet.

This one seem like turbo decoder. Very expensive too?

[kemaster]

nsuperlock tibbe decoder

783278

Does anyone use this tool?



1> one is for tibbe locks which are driven by No.1 disc. (they recomend this one for the European market)
2>one is for tibbe locks which are driven by No.4 disc.


Can i use it on the ignition lock, without it getting stuck?
It appears easier to read off accurated, even on worn locks.

Haven't heard for ford tibbe lock driven by No1 discs. All I've seen are by No4
This, I assume is for door lock seeing the way it operates - tensioner at the tip

[rob h]

My guess, when they say driven by, they mean that the first cut to be in place, and to put rotation tension on.

My guess, that would be the number4.

I use the other Caterpillar like lishi decoder.
That one Will get stuck in the ignition.
And accurate reading off, allign the tool.
Then take a picture off that.

[kemaster]

I've bought the chinese lishi FO21, but never get any to use yet.

This one seem like turbo decoder. Very expensive too?

As I see it's not like turbo decoder-it's tension and picking

[Weasel3]

Price
125 USD including DHL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=V2J-NYp0IMQ

Its not as easy, as it looks in the video.

Also thought got the item stucked, in door lock I tested at a vehicle.
It was just a test, on local vehicle. Not a real job.
Got it loose after a couple of minutes. Scary!

The old low cost Tibbe pick, was actually easier to open the door with.
Maybe its just me needing more practice.
Not a daily job with these locks.

[Oktawian]

All of them are stucking in ignition, hood lock and door as well. You need to have other tool to take tibbe out.

[rob h]

I consider, making a U-shaped collor.
To slide, down in to the lock, and make way to retract the tool.

[Weasel3]

Experienced earlier long time ago, a new cut key got stuck.
Just because I did not put it in wire brush machine.
To remove sharp edges.

Solution was to use a Paper Clip in the lock - And use quite much force. Took a couple of minutes. And at last I got it out.
https://www.tiffany.co.uk/accessories/desk/paper-clip-bookmark-60559481/

Wont do that again.
Tibbe keys always in the wire brush machine. (That lesson is learned now :).

[rob h]

I file the edges.
The dust cap, graps the key.

I tried a paperclip, that did not work for me.

I will have another look, and need to try that U collar thing.


Taling about paperclips

[Manta1600]

I use tibbe on the ignition only if the ignition lock is not the same with the other locks

I filed the edges on the position 1 so its not so easy to be stuck - if its stuck I use the pin that come with tebbe to release it in worst case I take out the ignition barrel

[rob h]

If you can not turn to position 1, when picking fails or a key does not turn and gets stuck:
How to remove the lock? Do you punch the retaining pin inwards? Maybe pry outwards?
Or does the core needs to turn to release itself.

[Manta1600]

If you can not turn to position 1, when picking fails or a key does not turn and gets stuck:
How to remove the lock? Do you punch the retaining pin inwards? Maybe pry outwards?
Or does the core needs to turn to release itself.

First and last time when I stuck the tibbe insde the lock and I was unable to turn it I took out the steering column and tried to open the ignition and all went faulty


finally I bought steering column from the scrap yard and replaced


After that I file the edges on the lishi and I decode the ignition only if is different than other locks

[rapidlocksmiths]

i have decoded alot of tibbe ignitions with the lishi tibbe pick , you can file a leading edge in tool , but i use a length of piano wire to move the dust cover and extract the tool.

for the price id pay a bit more and buy the safe ventures tibbe pick , its in a different league to nsuper

[Weasel3]

i have decoded alot of tibbe with the lishi tibbe pick , you can file a leading edge in tool , but i use a length of piano wire to move the dust cover and extract the tool.

for the price id pay a bit more and buy the safe ventures tibbe pick , its in a different league to nsuper

On the Shoerep some says it get damaged easily.
Is it true? Or are they of a decent quality. Which would last, at least a couple of years.
Found an old link also, from years back.

https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/archive/index.php/t-386147.html

[scotlock]

Hi
I have had my safe venture tibbe pick for 15 years. never had a problem with it. and it still works as good as the day i bought it.
I use it on doors, ignitions, bonnet locks regularly.

[kemaster]

As years are passing I realised old school stuff might be better in many ways- quality, precision and so on. I'm very careful when using my old tools cos if get broken it's almost impossible to buy again

[rapidlocksmiths]

As years are passing I realised old school stuff might be better in many ways- quality, precision and so on. I'm very careful when using my old tools cos if get broken it's almost impossible to buy again

as buyers demand cheaper and cheaper products , precision tools get cheapened , surely no one would believe that they will get the same quality of tool for $10 on a tool that used to be $120 , many expect it to be the same quality but it can never be so.

yes safe ventures tool can wear , but is easily sorted , but im still using my one i bought 15 years ago with no issues.

even the catarpillar tools , theirs some shocking ones quality wise , but they have been cheapened , i had 4 prototypes made of this tool for lishi to test , all quality materials and silver soldered parts , 4 years on im still using the 1st sample , these though never made it to production as the costs to produce made the tool more expensive to sell and everyone these days want cheap over quality so it got shelved for a cheaper process .
if not heavy handed the catarpillar style tool is by far the easiest to use , but being heavy handed kills them , they will do ignitions well with a slight adjustment with a file , but simple enough to remove if stuck with no more than a broken hand pick or piece of piano wire .

safe ventures maintain price so should maintain quality

[Alpaholic]

I bought one a year ago with driver disk 1. Not so good for german market. Its more for australien and some uk cars. Anyway, its not so easy for me as with the old pick with 6 disks.

The old one costs now 26€.