Renault Trafic 2015 issues after key programming

[comizelu]

Hi members,
I have this problem.. I been called out for a spare key on this van,done plenty even AKL so no problems.
Connected Autel,had pin,programmed spare but it wouldn't program the original back in.
I'm uch error "dongle" and car doesn't crank.
Contacted Autel, they've said you had wrong pin.
Gave me the right pin and programmed the original key back in but still car wouldn't crank.
Pretty sure the uch flash is corrupted.
Can someone give me a virgin flash for this car or any advice?

Thanks

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[fred77]

Not a great advert for Autel

Hope you can repair as far as know can't be eeprom'ed, and not aware of any software for other than key programming.
Good luck

[comizelu]

Not a great advert for Autel

Hope you can repair as far as know can't be eeprom'ed, and not aware of any software for other than key programming.
Good luckThe problem is that even the dealership don't have uch, is back order so can take more then a month to get it.
Tomorrow is going to dealership,maybe they can do update on uch(still has communication) and resync everything.
If it works will be great otherwise will try to get uch,reset and program.
If still doesn't work then ECU kit but still abs problems..


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[albertros]

Long shot try unpluging ABS.

[p1et]

5 min job for dealership to resync everything, nothing big to worry about. The towing should be more expensive ;)

[Manta1600]

How much cost dealer pasthru Access to Renault servers
and is it possible to order this in UK?

[comizelu]

5 min job for dealership to resync everything, nothing big to worry about. The towing should be more expensive ;)I know it's 5mins job for them.
The problem is that the uch flash might be corrupted.
Will see tomorrow.

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[lion0304]

I see someone on FB report has Vivaro UCH corrupted. He virgin doner UCH and recode with Autel.

You can try to explore this function on Autel.

[comizelu]

I see someone on FB report has Vivaro UCH corrupted. He virgin doner UCH and recode with Autel.

You can try to explore this function on Autel.I'll see what dealer can do first.
If not I'll try it.
I know it can reset the pin but don't know about vin

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[TERMINATOR1000]

Hi members,
I have this problem.. I been called out for a spare key on this van,done plenty even AKL so no problems.
Connected Autel,had pin,programmed spare but it wouldn't program the original back in.
I'm uch error "dongle" and car doesn't crank.
Contacted Autel, they've said you had wrong pin.
Gave me the right pin and programmed the original key back in but still car wouldn't crank.
Pretty sure the uch flash is corrupted.
Can someone give me a virgin flash for this car or any advice?

Thanks

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If you use add key function , write back original file ( first step : 20 minutes reading flash !!! )
If you use AKL , BCM is definitely corrupted , like ZedFul bug !!!! For win 20 minutes crappy tool made lose one week !!!
sorry you need to go on dealer or buy an "ecu kit"

[TERMINATOR1000]

How much cost dealer pasthru Access to Renault servers
and is it possible to order this in UK?

100£/ month
but you need to be formed by Renault ( 5-10 k£) for full access function & ECU programming

[rapidlocksmiths]

when abrites first released there software when new , first job and it killed a 2015 traffic , dongle error , remote works but van deceased . the customer recovered it to renault and as he had an original key they reflashed uch and all back to life without issues and only charged £65 plus vat and did it in 20 minutes.

abrites then worked on and fixed the software bug .

abrites is now my 3rd choice tool on these ,and autel 4th choice , 1st choice is smart pro which is the safest of the lot on these , 2nd choice is TDB1000 as they have patch files to recover the uch but tdb only does spares at present.

dealer should sort it with reflash if you have an original key still

[TERMINATOR1000]

when abrites first released there software when new , first job and it killed a 2015 traffic , dongle error , remote works but van deceased . the customer recovered it to renault and as he had an original key they reflashed uch and all back to life without issues and only charged £65 plus vat and did it in 20 minutes.

abrites then worked on and fixed the software bug .

abrites is now my 3rd choice tool on these ,and autel 4th choice , 1st choice is smart pro which is the safest of the lot on these , 2nd choice is TDB1000 as they have patch files to recover the uch but tdb only does spares at present.

dealer should sort it with reflash if you have an original key still

Sorry , but if you read flash with an working key , if any problem come , you just write back this flash !!!!
Any tool can write back ! free AVDI ( not use RR019 to add key ) , LONSDOR , OBDSTAR , TDB 1000 .
But if you use 5 minutes method , & if "dongle fault" , only Renault.net can repair BCM , all tool in the world are unable to repair this "dongle fault"

I use only free AVDI + 13.5V , i already kill lot of BCM in BOOT MODE ( never DONGLE FAULT ) during write flash or lose WIFI , i write back "backup flash" and all happy ending , with RR019 for AKL SITUATION , i never had problem on Trafic 3 & Twingo 3 : 5 minutes job without 13.5V .

This car is an risky job , use 13.5 V , do this job in proximity of Renault main dealer ....

[One2key]

Sorry , but if you read flash with an working key , if any problem come , you just write back this flash !!!!
Any tool can write back ! free AVDI ( not use RR019 to add key ) , LONSDOR , OBDSTAR , TDB 1000 .
But if you use 5 minutes method , & if "dongle fault" , only Renault.net can repair BCM , all tool in the world are unable to repair this "dongle fault"

I use only free AVDI + 13.5V , i already kill lot of BCM in BOOT MODE ( never DONGLE FAULT ) during write flash or lose WIFI , i write back "backup flash" and all happy ending , with RR019 for AKL SITUATION , i never had problem on Trafic 3 & Twingo 3 : 5 minutes job without 13.5V .

This car is an risky job , use 13.5 V , do this job in proximity of Renault main dealer ....

I am with Terminator on this one. your UCH might be just in Bootloader mode just rewrite original dump and read pin and program keys again with original key first and you should all be set to go and always use battery maintainer for maintaining proper voltage for flashing on this vehicle. Had a couple gone wrong while reading pin, but just write back the backup and all is good. Worked everytime. Never had this dongle issue before.

[comizelu]

If you use add key function , write back original file ( first step : 20 minutes reading flash !!! )
If you use AKL , BCM is definitely corrupted , like ZedFul bug !!!! For win 20 minutes crappy tool made lose one week !!!
sorry you need to go on dealer or buy an "ecu kit"Dealer says they can't help..
What's in the ECU kit?
Clocks,ECU,uch,airbag, abs pump?
Any idea?
Thanks

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[godfathertwo]

I hope you get it fixed hopefully some other member might be able to help you good luck plus I still do not understands he says programmed key than contacted support said he had wrong pincode
How come he programmed key with wrong pincode surely the programmer does not let you enter
Programming mode without a valid
Pin code than contacted autel they said had wrong pincode very unusual I think they are telling porkies autel.

[lion0304]

When you program with Autel, it read Pflash and saved.

Did you tried to write back this Pflash?

[comizelu]

I hope you get it fixed hopefully some other member might be able to help you good luck plus I still do not understands he says programmed key than contacted support said he had wrong pincode
How come he programmed key with wrong pincode surely the programmer does not let you enter
Programming mode without a valid
Pin code than contacted autel they said had wrong pincode very unusual I think they are telling porkies autel.It's strange for me as well why the car accepted different pin code.

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[comizelu]

When you program with Autel, it read Pflash and saved.

Did you tried to write back this Pflash?I have done maybe 10 of these and but Autel saved only 2 files in total and not from this car.

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[TERMINATOR1000]

Dealer says they can't help..
What's in the ECU kit?
Clocks,ECU,uch,airbag, abs pump?
Any idea?
Thanks

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hello

ECU + UCH + KEY = ECU KIT = £400£

... but what is dealer price for only new UCH + PROGRAMMING ????

[comizelu]

hello

ECU + UCH + KEY = ECU KIT = £400£

... but what is dealer price for only new UCH + PROGRAMMING ????Thanks
Dealer doesn't have uch,not in UK,not in Europe, it's in back order so can take a month Or more until available.

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[fred77]

when abrites first released there software when new , first job and it killed a 2015 traffic , dongle error , remote works but van deceased . the customer recovered it to renault and as he had an original key they reflashed uch and all back to life without issues and only charged £65 plus vat and did it in 20 minutes.

abrites then worked on and fixed the software bug .

abrites is now my 3rd choice tool on these ,and autel 4th choice , 1st choice is smart pro which is the safest of the lot on these , 2nd choice is TDB1000 as they have patch files to recover the uch but tdb only does spares at present.

dealer should sort it with reflash if you have an original key still


Same here SmartPro :)
Recon they test kit more / better software

The hassle and cost of dealership - who knows I've heard £800 BCM replacement. Stealers

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Hay -
Did poop myself as left Kajar with no keys otherday. Turned out X-Co-Part and pickup ring disconnected ...hour later

[rapidlocksmiths]

I am with Terminator on this one. your UCH might be just in Bootloader mode just rewrite original dump and read pin and program keys again with original key first and you should all be set to go and always use battery maintainer for maintaining proper voltage for flashing on this vehicle. Had a couple gone wrong while reading pin, but just write back the backup and all is good. Worked everytime. Never had this dongle issue before.

in the case of my one with avdi , it was initially a lost key job , original had been lost on site , avdi killed it as when first released it had a bug on uk models , after avdi killed a number of these , abrites put a warning on the software that its not to be used on uk models , it took a month to fix the issue , so those using the software after this point had no issues.

whilst waiting for a ecu kit as they were suddenly in demand , customer found original key , recovered van to renault and they reflashed it with original key and all working fine , though only on original key, they wouldnt add mine .

there was no fix on this one , abrites couldnt fix , a guru i know couldnt fix ( who can now as has dealer tool with full access ) , ecu kit or new uch was only fix and at that time it was 3 month wait for uch as lockdown and they were suddenly in demand.

the pitfalls of being one of the first to use the software when new , but it quickly escalated as these were killed all over uk at that time and ecu kits were like rocking horse poo

theres different reasons why issues occur , on the one i had it was down to an initial bug in abrites software that has since been fixed , abrites and my supplier were excellent as admitted the issue was theres and paid for the repair , recovery and courtesy vehicle costs in full .

[TERMINATOR1000]

in the case of my one with avdi , it was initially a lost key job , original had been lost on site , avdi killed it as when first released it had a bug on uk models , after avdi killed a number of these , abrites put a warning on the software that its not to be used on uk models , it took a month to fix the issue , so those using the software after this point had no issues.

whilst waiting for a ecu kit as they were suddenly in demand , customer found original key , recovered van to renault and they reflashed it with original key and all working fine , though only on original key, they wouldnt add mine .

there was no fix on this one , abrites couldnt fix , a guru i know couldnt fix ( who can now as has dealer tool with full access ) , ecu kit or new uch was only fix and at that time it was 3 month wait for uch as lockdown and they were suddenly in demand.

the pitfalls of being one of the first to use the software when new , but it quickly escalated as these were killed all over uk at that time and ecu kits were like rocking horse poo

theres different reasons why issues occur , on the one i had it was down to an initial bug in abrites software that has since been fixed , abrites and my supplier were excellent as admitted the issue was theres and paid for the repair , recovery and courtesy vehicle costs in full .

ABRITES ONLINE DIAGNOSTICS FOR RENAULT/DACIA VERSION 33.1


In the latest Abrites Online Diagnostics for Renault/Dacia vehicles, we have added support for more vehicles of the automotive group.
PIN reading and key learning for Duster ph3 2017+ is added, including for All Keys Lost situations. In order to perform these procedures, we provide the latest development by the team: the RR023 special function.


In 33.1, our team has also added UCH renewal functionality for Master III/Kangoo II, Dongle Reset for Trafic III (UK vehicles), and EPS Reset for Duster ph3.


There are also improvements in the ABS mileage correction procedure for Dacia Dokker and Dacia Lodgy, as well as in the PIN reading procedure for Master III/Kangoo II 2016+ vehicles.


UK vehicles , UK Brexit .... always problems with UK !

[godfathertwo]

The only problem we need to remortgage house to buy these tools.

[rapidlocksmiths]

its been a while comming but its a good update that will earn its corn and pay its way

[TERMINATOR1000]

The only problem we need to remortgage house to buy these tools.

Hello
This tool is modular , 2 ABRITES discount come next months , buy only what you need 2 times/years at -25% !

[comizelu]

Update..

Dealer couldn't do anything with it.
This because customer sent it to one of the most stupid dealership in the area.
They've said that uch is up to date.
I got it back on Saturday,got the ECU kit and started the van.
The only problem now is the radio,it says locked on the screen but he has the pin code so should be fine.

From what I experienced, dongle error comes up because wrong pin.
I tried to see if Autel saved any dump file for this car pressing "recover file" but was not there. Later on i pressed again "recover file" and it wouldn't communicate anymore with uch.
So this was the problem,uch in boot mode or something like that.

Will get smok license to see if is better then Autel.


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[whiskeyman]

in the case of my one with avdi , it was initially a lost key job , original had been lost on site , avdi killed it as when first released it had a bug on uk models , after avdi killed a number of these , abrites put a warning on the software that its not to be used on uk models , it took a month to fix the issue , so those using the software after this point had no issues.

whilst waiting for a ecu kit as they were suddenly in demand , customer found original key , recovered van to renault and they reflashed it with original key and all working fine , though only on original key, they wouldnt add mine .

there was no fix on this one , abrites couldnt fix , a guru i know couldnt fix ( who can now as has dealer tool with full access ) , ecu kit or new uch was only fix and at that time it was 3 month wait for uch as lockdown and they were suddenly in demand.

the pitfalls of being one of the first to use the software when new , but it quickly escalated as these were killed all over uk at that time and ecu kits were like rocking horse poo

theres different reasons why issues occur , on the one i had it was down to an initial bug in abrites software that has since been fixed , abrites and my supplier were excellent as admitted the issue was theres and paid for the repair , recovery and courtesy vehicle costs in full .

the biggest miracle i see here is abrities paying for software mistake .........wow
you must have pulled some strings there

[rapidlocksmiths]

No strings , i was one of first to use the new software plus i had a priority plan , i sent logs explained battery support was used and within 24 hours of sending the log files they answered back stating its a software issue and it needs to go to renault and they will pick up the bill , no pressure applied and no arguments . they paid for the first ones for those with support plans and no procedure errors , up until the point they put the warning on the tool , which was within a few weeks of mine getting killed , a warning was added warning users not to use the software at present on uk models , once this warning was added it was down to the user if they click past the message and ignored the warning.

[TERMINATOR1000]

Update..

Dealer couldn't do anything with it.
This because customer sent it to one of the most stupid dealership in the area.
They've said that uch is up to date.
I got it back on Saturday,got the ECU kit and started the van.
The only problem now is the radio,it says locked on the screen but he has the pin code so should be fine.

From what I experienced, dongle error comes up because wrong pin.
I tried to see if Autel saved any dump file for this car pressing "recover file" but was not there. Later on i pressed again "recover file" and it wouldn't communicate anymore with uch.
So this was the problem,uch in boot mode or something like that.

Will get smok license to see if is better then Autel.


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Hello , how much time need Autel to add key ?
( upper 25 minutes it an safe job
under 5 minute it's an risky )

[jodge]

normally it takes more than 20min.

[comizelu]

Hello , how much time need Autel to add key ?
( upper 25 minutes it an safe job
under 5 minute it's an risky )Under 5 mins but did not put the uch in boot mode. That caused dongle error because wrong pin.
The uch went stuck in boot mode when choosing option to recover from file,that's when uch got damaged.

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[MACAN]

Be careful with autel, these last days many reported errors with the programming of key renault AES, virginization of HFM. We hope for an update

[fred77]

The only problem we need to remortgage house to buy these tools.


Or re-mortgage house paying dealership repair - charging silly money to push buttons on their oem dealer tool

Crappy French (& add Germain) vehicles

[rapidlocksmiths]

Update..

Dealer couldn't do anything with it.
This because customer sent it to one of the most stupid dealership in the area.
They've said that uch is up to date.
I got it back on Saturday,got the ECU kit and started the van.
The only problem now is the radio,it says locked on the screen but he has the pin code so should be fine.

From what I experienced, dongle error comes up because wrong pin.
I tried to see if Autel saved any dump file for this car pressing "recover file" but was not there. Later on i pressed again "recover file" and it wouldn't communicate anymore with uch.
So this was the problem,uch in boot mode or something like that.



Will get smok license to see if is better then Autel.


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i dont know if you have abrites , but as mentioned by terminator , in the latest update 33.1 they have included dongle reset for traffic 3 , UCH renewal as well and airbag unit replacement as well .
whats not in the announcement is the licence needed for this , you need licence RR014 to use these functions , so added to the older RR014 licence .

a useful and decent update from abrites that i will make some use of

[comizelu]

i dont know if you have abrites , but as mentioned by terminator , in the latest update 33.1 they have included dongle reset for traffic 3 , UCH renewal as well and airbag unit replacement as well .
whats not in the announcement is the licence needed for this , you need licence RR014 to use these functions , so added to the older RR014 licence .

a useful and decent update from abrites that i will make some use ofI do not have abrites.
Autel claims to renew and program uch on these.
Probably I'll get this license from smok.
Sounds good..

Reanult Trafic III Key System 2013... (BCM: Read Flash,Write Flash,Read PIN+ISK,Learn Key,Make Virgin,Learn BCM ,Write VIN)

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[fred77]

I do not have abrites.
Autel claims to renew and program uch on these.
Probably I'll get this license from smok.
Sounds good..

Reanult Trafic III Key System 2013... (BCM: Read Flash,Write Flash,Read PIN+ISK,Learn Key,Make Virgin,Learn BCM ,Write VIN)

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Smok is good kit.


Hay your customer must be understanding - vans being works vehicle, customer with shot gun to head :guns:
Seriously a law suite claiming loss of earnings every day van off road. So you must be ok on this one for few more days lets hope kit works tho don't rule out additional kit after Smok

[comizelu]

Smok is good kit.


Hay your customer must be understanding - vans being works vehicle, customer with shot gun to head :guns:
Seriously a law suite claiming loss of earnings every day van off road. So you must be ok on this one for few more days lets hope kit works tho don't rule out additional kit after SmokIt was a van rental company,they have like 800 vans..they didn't even bothered to call me once I finished.
All good with the new kit [emoji846]..

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[u.s]

It was a van rental company,they have like 800 vans..they didn't even bothered to call me once I finished.
All good with the new kit [emoji846]..

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Did you use smok to finish this job mate?

[comizelu]

Did you use smok to finish this job mate?No,I don't have that licence yet..

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[ZizouT]

Hello , how much time need Autel to add key ?
( upper 25 minutes it an safe job
under 5 minute it's an risky )
Thank you for all the information you gave me at the time, I have fixed the steering rod of my Renault Clio 3. I wanted to thank you.

[fred77]

Hello , how much time need Autel to add key ?
( upper 25 minutes it an safe job
under 5 minute it's an risky )


couple of minutes with SmartPro

[TERMINATOR1000]

couple of minutes with SmartPro
Hello
Why they use risky method ? No write back possible , no backup !
Thanks

[Talleresmalaga]

Or re-mortgage house paying dealership repair - charging silly money to push buttons on their oem dealer tool

Crappy French (& add Germain) vehicles


That is the same as what customers think when we encode a key and charge them 80 Euros, and they see them on AliExpress at 10 Euros, they only look at the computer and buttons, but not the costs of the equipment and maintenance of the programs ...


We trust ourselves too much, because we pay dearly for the software and equipment we use, we forget our bases from the beginning and all the clubs that we do not carry, along the way until we get here


I think the best option as always is a backup before starting work, ...


although sometimes the rush and laziness make us sin naive,





Greetings

[hbt]

Does somebody tried to program a key for Traffic 3 2020 just ADD key?
Want to know if autel is safe or better other tool ?

[turismou]

Time for update:
I had trafic 2016 to add key today.
I was exploring OBDstar x300 and checked their software. Turns out they also added 'safe' method. It asks you before PIN reading if pflash has been read and you have to choose ESC (NO). It will begin reading pflash.
Before I started reading the pflash I connected the battery charger set at at 13v and also connected an multimeter to keep an eye on power level.
As you switch ignition on it normally drops around 12v and stays there steady which is a must when doing this. After that you are offered to name your pflash file and store it in memory. This is a fail-safe which can be used to restore UCH to working order if you fail at next step. Next step is erasing and writing new flash where obdstar reads PIN. It will also take aroing 5 to 10 mins. This is where things are interesting as during one phrase where it says communicating with UCH, the fuel pump will start and further lower power which briefly dropped from 12.5 to 11.75. This is the step where you will brick your UCH if you don't have charger connected. After this it is pretty straightforward where it shows you the PIN and asks for keys...
All in all I think this is fairly safe car to do now.
Good luck guys.

[godfathertre]

You should have had a battery maintenair set at 13.5 volt and 100 amps not a battery charger
As these are not good when flashing etc not cheap but a must.

[rapidlocksmiths]

these are alot safer now but still carry risk , especially if not checking vin matches in all units first and not using adequate battery support.

i maintain at 13.8v with mains powered support unit and have never suffered such large voltage drop during pin read .

its safe to say they are safer now on some tools , until one goes tits up, and judging by the number of these still being bricked there will always remain a risk.

[turismou]

You should have had a battery maintenair set at 13.5 volt and 100 amps not a battery charger
As these are not good when flashing etc not cheap but a must.
Yes, I could have set at 13.5.
I tracked voltage with a multimeter.
Anyway, I agree with your suggestion.

[Oleksi]

Good afternoon, it looks like the Autel 608 continues to kill Renault UCH T4 L4VS (284b12763R Visteon) blocks.
I have the same story, I came to the masters to make a duplicate key, but in the end the car costs 2 months.


It is currently impossible to buy a new UCH in Ukraine.
I have a 2018 Opel Vivaro, 120 hp.
With the Opel service in Ukraine, it’s generally the bottom, until 2019 they refuse to service cars, like they are already PSA.
If it was a Renault, I would have already driven, but the VIN of the Opel can't help.


Tell me how to properly restore or reset the UCH, with which device?
Perhaps there are fixes for Autel?
There is a master with a dealer device with access to the GM online database, but all his attempts to do something end up in the UCH.

[Manta1600]

Good afternoon, it looks like the Autel 608 continues to kill Renault UCH T4 L4VS (284b12763R Visteon) blocks.
I have the same story, I came to the masters to make a duplicate key, but in the end the car costs 2 months.


It is currently impossible to buy a new UCH in Ukraine.
I have a 2018 Opel Vivaro, 120 hp.
With the Opel service in Ukraine, it’s generally the bottom, until 2019 they refuse to service cars, like they are already PSA.
If it was a Renault, I would have already driven, but the VIN of the Opel can't help.


Tell me how to properly restore or reset the UCH, with which device?
Perhaps there are fixes for Autel?
There is a master with a dealer device with access to the GM online database, but all his attempts to do something end up in the UCH.

The easy way is to buy ECU kit

engine ECU UCH and key - also is good if the kit include airbag ECU or you will have problem to add aditional key

[mjoesen]

Did you contact Autel support and if, did you get any useful answer from them?

[godfathertwo]

I tought they last guy did this was fixed in this forum if so why as it not implemented by autel
Too many horror stories with this autel safest tool on this avdi .

[Manta1600]

I tought they last guy did this was fixed in this forum if so why as it not implemented by autel
Too many horror stories with this autel safest tool on this avdi .

The safest tool is the own knowage

I personaly wrote few times that Autel kill 2015 onward Trafic based vans in this forum also other peoples reported the same

the same story with CAS3+ and Qashqai

they don't want to spent time to lern from other people faults and will lern some lessons on the hard way

[Oleksi]

engine ECU UCH and key - also is good if the kit include airbag ECU or you will have problem to add aditional key

- Yes, they tried to buy this assembly, but everything from two-turbine cars, finding one from a single-turbine is some kind of problem.

Did you contact Autel support and if, did you get any useful answer from them?

- I'll check with the master tomorrow.

I personaly wrote few times that Autel kill 2015 onward Trafic based vans in this forum also other peoples reported the same

-If I had known about such a problem earlier, I would definitely not have done the key.

[godfathertwo]

I hope you get it sorted mate especially where you are now
Contact autel first see if they can help that is why i do not like Autel everyone bought one very little tested and we are the test bed dummies for trying.

[turismou]

Did you read flash before reading pin?

[Manta1600]

-If I had known about such a problem earlier, I would definitely not have done the key.

Even don't know when you start programming there is the message that if you don't have working key you can kill the car

The ECU kit must have exactly the same number engine ECU - Also if the ECU kit not include airbag ECU even don't try to add more keys

[Oleksi]

I hope you get it sorted mate especially where you are now
Contact autel first see if they can help that is why i do not like Autel everyone bought one very little tested and we are the test bed dummies for trying.

I asked the master to contact them, why he had not contacted them before, I do not understand.
He says that he has a version of Autel 608 Full.
Although, to be honest, did anyone manage to get a normal answer from the guys from China?

Did you read flash before reading pin?

Do you mean BCM (UCH)?
Before registering a new key, the master said that he made a backup, but it turned out to be 0 bytes.
During programming, he deleted my old key (I don’t understand why), and then he began to write a new one, there was no additional power (perhaps for this reason there was a failure) and as a result the car turns the starter, the central lock works, but the car does not start (presumably injection unit).
BSM T4 L4VS has STM microcontroller with read protection (according to Jtag - or am I mistaken?).


Even don't know when you start programming there is the message that if you don't have working key you can kill the car

the working key was the one that came with the machine, but the master convinces that it is no longer possible to overwrite it again or he does not know how.

The ECU kit must have exactly the same number engine ECU - Also if the ECU kit not include airbag ECU even don't try to add more keys

Does this block store additional keys?
Usually this block is.

And if it is from another assembly there will be problems? is it connected to the BCM(UCH) like it is to the ECU?

I have ECU 0281034037
This block has firmware for one turbine and two.
We temporarily borrowed ECU 0281033357 from a friend of his car, the car started up and worked.
Now there are a lot of units from two-turbine ones, it was difficult to find a unit from a single-turbine one, but it is also
ECU 028103357 (2017, the seller says that the car was with AdBlue).
How different are they?
According to the idea, the firmware can then be updated to Renault, if the assembly is from traffic.

[gttuning]

Good afternoon, it looks like the Autel 608 continues to kill Renault UCH T4 L4VS (284b12763R Visteon) blocks.
I have the same story, I came to the masters to make a duplicate key, but in the end the car costs 2 months.


It is currently impossible to buy a new UCH in Ukraine.
I have a 2018 Opel Vivaro, 120 hp.
With the Opel service in Ukraine, it’s generally the bottom, until 2019 they refuse to service cars, like they are already PSA.
If it was a Renault, I would have already driven, but the VIN of the Opel can't help.


Tell me how to properly restore or reset the UCH, with which device?
Perhaps there are fixes for Autel?
There is a master with a dealer device with access to the GM online database, but all his attempts to do something end up in the UCH.If uch is now virgin and no pin code ...
Contact autel they will correct data on their server from your logs if you sent them..
Then you conect to car again and autel im608 will ask if you want to obtain data from server and press YES ...
then it will continue the prosses...



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[Manta1600]

Oleksi if this was add key Autel not killed the car but looks like someone replaced the airbag ecu

Check the VIN on the airbag ecu and if is different than the car this is the reason for the failure

if this is the reason you will have "donle error" and will need AVDI to reset the airbag ecu and reprogram the original key

[turismou]

Saving backup bcm flash takes around 20 mins with battery support. Without flash there is nothing you can do. I reccomend you contact renault or even dacia official servises/workshops and ask to help you reprogram it, as they alm use same bcm with little difference based on other modules. Other than that only ecu kit will be of use.
I really wish you luck on solving this.

[Oleksi]

Saving backup bcm flash takes around 20 mins with battery support. Without flash there is nothing you can do. I reccomend you contact renault or even dacia official servises/workshops and ask to help you reprogram it, as they alm use same bcm with little difference based on other modules. Other than that only ecu kit will be of use.
I really wish you luck on solving this.
- I have vincode Opel, and now everything is online for Renault, they do not accept this vincode.Or it does not need online access to reset the BCM (UCH)?

[rapidlocksmiths]

if you have a previously working key for the vehicle , the vauxhall/opel main dealer should be able to help and fix it via their diag . same thing happened to me when abrites software was first released to a renault trafic , luckily the original key was found , the owner recovered it to renault who fixed it working on old key in an hour and charged under £100 , had old key not been found they wanted to fit new uch , luckily abrites admitted it was a bug in the software and paid all recovery and repair costs as well as costs for coutesy vehicle , that was excellent service on their part and they fixed the software issue for all users quickly.

if opel or renault wont help , then complete new ecu kit , or has been mentioned if bricked due to a donor airbag or abs unit with different vin , then someone with abrites and correct licences may be able to fix this .

before starting any key coding on these always read the vin number in all units to ensure they all match , saves headaches later , i use abrites vin reader , does this quickly , is stand alone working with your phone and isnt expensive . and for all keys lost never use autel , abrites or smart pro are all i trust on these with abrites being my most trusted as can fix it if it bricks it .

[Oleksi]

Unfortunately Opel service in Ukraine ((
they refused to service cars until 2018, citing the fact that they do not have software.There is only one answer, we are already PSA. (can not help).

We joke - when it seems that the Opel service cannot be worse, it surprises and breaks through the bottom.

Renault - does not accept VIN code Opel.

The pillow block was checked, it is native - the same vincode.
abs - check.

Autel - they wrote so far they are silent, there must be some kind of solution, because as I understand the problem for a long time.

Bought a solution from the Poles ecu-service info
Well, until it somehow starts.
It seems that we do everything according to the instructions, maybe we are missing something, no one used it?

[joker01]

I follow carefully......the vin check must be done on the engine ecu,uch,srs and abs or even other control units???having only autel im508 and dp300 which would be your first choice for these vehicles???

[rapidlocksmiths]

I follow carefully......the vin check must be done on the engine ecu,uch,srs and abs or even other control units???having only autel im508 and dp300 which would be your first choice for these vehicles???

i check that all units contain the correct vin , takes just a few minutes and saves headaches , plus abrites can renew if needed to change vin so it matches .

personally i wouldnt trust either of your tools on all keys lost on these trafic based models , for all keys lost the only 2 tools i trust are abrites and smart pro and then 1st choice is abrites as if abrites bricks it then abrites can fix it .

but thats me , others may trust differently or have much bigger gonads

[joker01]

thanks.....for akl i wouldn't try with my tools ok....was wondering if there was a preference for a key addition.....

[rapidlocksmiths]

i know im608 adds keys so im508 should do these add a key , but not sure if you can recover if an issue like im608 with its diag functions should be able to , this is a question for someone who uses this tool on them , a few have had issues with im608 on them plenty have succeeded . obdstar you need an obdstar user to confirm , i binned this tool years ago.

even on add key check vin matches in all units first and always use battery support maintaining over 13v at battery throughout.

[fred77]

SmartPro works well

[joker01]

atlas key programmer....
do you know this programmer??????
specific smart/twingo/trafic

[Ecuprog31]

Bricked 2 trafic 2020 with Lonsdor do add key
then Ive buy avdi
ive bricked bcm on zoe 2019 with abrite because batterie was flat
Ive put a charger and then abrites wake up bcm and finish the job

[godfathertwo]

You must use good Battery Support on these vehicles you were lucky to recover from your mistake.

[Oleksi]

My problem was solved by buying an assembly (BCM + ECU + EMM T4 + key.
(from 2017 traffic).
It remains now to return the functions of cruise control, speed limiter, and other small ones.


So no one was able to defeat the problem with the native assembly from my machine.


Wrote Autel technical support.
They write - send the file.
The saved file has a size of 0 bytes.


The answer is also 0.


Autel im608 is better not to use with this type of car. attempts to understand the problem on their part are also zero.


And it's not worth buying it either, with such an attitude towards customers.

[godfathertwo]

It has been said here do not use AUTEL on these Renault Vehicles very little has been Tested by Autel and We are the Dummies when it breaks Van We pay the price as rapid Says only Genuine Abrites or smart pro Abrites can also fix if goes Wrong So worth Buying for this Alone Glad you got it sorted surely Must have spent Money elsewhere instead you did not foresee the problem .