X-prog m & Golf V Micronas problem

[calin_bm]

Hello guys,my problem is for those who has an original Xprog-m programmer.Last days I have a dash VDO from a Golf V 2008,inside with a micronas 3297G and my programmer could not read/write the data inside chip,it's show an error "Device ID does not match,ID is 0x 000122B9".Someone has this problem before?an how it can be done?
Thank you.

[cammy25]

Never had this problem, but seems like you have a rare CPU ID.
you should request TMT to implement or download latest software.

[calin_bm]

in the latest update from TMT is not specified any new resources regarding Golf V,only Caddy 2006,I sent them a few mails,they answer me but they are telling me to check connections,or the programmer start to read,bypass security bytes and then after 13 seconds,show that error with Device id...I'll expect news from them now...:dontknow:

[bolonc]

I read and write is a very good Golf V CDC3297。

[calin_bm]

yes,i did too,and passat,jetta,but not this dash,from mexico,i thing there is something inside chip that x-prog does not know...
Did you always used a serial connection to x-prog?

[cammy25]

trying to find any ERRATA for CPU ID change, but micronas is not open with datasheets.

Im sure its an ID change and not a change in Jtag security.
Do you have a rosfar R250?

[calin_bm]

no,I don't have,when I was buyed x-prog I was thinking that is the best tool for this job,but now I have doubts...

[audiserg]

r250 no need ID?

[cammy25]

No,
but maybe this one is implemented in rosfar.

Xprog is a great tool, but you should know that in this business we always need more tools for same job.

[calin_bm]

I buyed original Commander,they don't implemented yet the dashes with micronas so i thing to buy another tool for that,after i buyed xprog,now i must buy another,and so on....

[cammy25]

I know my friend,

thats why I started to buy clones.

[calin_bm]

the fact is that buying clones,you don't expext much from them,so you can not be mad if the tool don't do that or this,but when you payd several hundred euros on one tool,it must override expectations.

[VagSoft]

Yuo must disconnect XTAL from Micronas ;)

[PROCESSOR]

Hello,
i want to read ST10F280 did any one know wich interface or programmer do that.
Thanks.

[vevepatronu]

Hello,
i want to read ST10F280 did any one know wich interface or programmer do that.
Thanks.

m8 if you have a problem just open your own thread, or talk here only if you have the same problem...

[youssef70]

Hello,
i want to read ST10F280 did any one know wich interface or programmer do that.
Thanks.

last update from xprog do it .... 12.02.2010 .....

[calin_bm]

Yuo must disconnect XTAL from Micronas ;)
mate,on the datasheets,i saw what & where to do and disconnect pins,i try for more than 20 times,and no luck,still that error with ID...

[cammy25]

Yuo must disconnect XTAL from Micronas

DId you just made this up? or did you ever tried it?



So you are saying: Remove the Hart of the patient, then talk to the patient whats wrong.

[hollow]

clip crystal to short pins ,or remove from circuit . 100% more accurate read/write

[valty]

Hi all.

I have original XPROG-M.

- Micronas work fine , 1000% (test only Usb)

i read and writte ST10F280 ok. 1000% (Test only Usb )

Good tool

B.r

[fukukum]

Hi all.

I have original XPROG-M.

- Micronas work fine , 1000% (test only Usb)

i read and writte ST10F280 ok. 1000% (Test only Usb )

Good tool

B.r

yes yes :ciao:

[another_seller]

Hello guys,my problem is for those who has an original Xprog-m programmer.Last days I have a dash VDO from a Golf V 2008,inside with a micronas 3297G and my programmer could not read/write the data inside chip,it's show an error "Device ID does not match,ID is 0x 000122B9".Someone has this problem before?an how it can be done?
Thank you.
XPROG-M support this with no problem, possible reason from your side maybe wiring connection issue or you turn to TMT for support :dontknow:

[calin_bm]

I check and re-ckeck the connections,ot's only 10 wires,not hard to connect,it's harder for exaple on some NEC processors from Renault dashes,so i think that the connections are the last thing to think,the problem is in that ID...

[branco]

is not your hard or connections
you must set ID for mcu
I got same problem with mitsubishi M32C processor from car radio
ID don't mismatch so you can't read write
maybe exist special area protection in some mcu and you must
know ID
regards

[calin_bm]

the software set himself the ID,you select dash > car > Micronas model (3297,3217) and the read,so all you have to do is connect the wires and set up the program.

[lubaishui]

the software set himself the ID,you select dash > car > Micronas model (3297,3217) and the read,so all you have to do is connect the wires and set up the program.
Hello , guys. I want to know how to get the MCU ID and then read the data from it

[calin_bm]

yesterday,another golf 2007,another ID problem,anyone else reporting that has such problem like mine?
thank you.

[stevan]

ID problem mean that you select wrong MCU type.Don't look on Dashboard menu as it is exactly,if you do Golf V,check mcu and maybe need to select Jetta -07.2006.On left panel you see type of MCU.

[ecutoool]

i have tested Xprog clone in golf 2007 cady 2008 and work fine

[calin_bm]

yep, us too...:congrats:
stevan,very good ideea,i will try that.

[jarfm]

Hi, also I have similar problem, i mean Octavia II after 2007 has different board than in the Xprog schama. Anobody know how to connect this type of board?

[frikki]

i would also love to know how to read dash. guy claims it is a gti cluster. but the skin belongs to a straight fsi. looks exactly like yours. micronas cdc 3297G. thanks.

[calin_bm]

it's like audi a3 micronas cluster,the connections are the same as all micronases,all you need to find is the VDD-VSS points.

[frikki]

thanks. you dont perhaps hav a diagram. thanks.

[rappttor]

it's like audi a3 micronas cluster,the connections are the same as all micronases,all you need to find is the VDD-VSS points.

unfortunatley comparing with xprog pictures, we must find more that 2 test points...use cdc3297 connection diagram and knock your self up
upper,left corner, smd capacitor between the big capacitor and the smd diode, should be vss-vdd...but you can wire the cdc pins too

[teerak2uk]

i have tested Xprog clone in golf 2007 cady 2008 and work fine

did you need to make any modifications on adaptor for these year/models?

[jokersat]

xprog m v 5 micronas = not good

tested many time on some dash = not working

@+

[exe123]

i'm using xprog-m to read/write flash on golf5. always working perfect

[rappttor]

clone or ori?

[exe123]

ecutool clone

[rappttor]

yours is the green pcb version? this can be an factor also

[exe123]

never opened it. it's the smaller one in the metal case.

more important is to use good cable for coax wire, keep coax wire away from power and of course lift the xtal from board in any case. never make it with xtal connected.

[teerak2uk]

never opened it. it's the smaller one in the metal case.

more important is to use good cable for coax wire, keep coax wire away from power and of course lift the xtal from board in any case. never make it with xtal connected.

did you make your coax cable?

[exe123]

yes because it was shipped without cable for micronas/freescale adapter

[rappttor]

yes, indeed, just test my self, it works, the triky part is the length of the coax cable, without it, it dosent move a needle :) ...
i still not know the best combination, to read/write one time, i must try several times to bypass the security, is it ok? or it has to do it on first/second try...

my next question is: the xprog dash module for vw is it any good? someone test it?

[teerak2uk]

yes because it was shipped without cable for micronas/freescale adapter


how did you make it pls any pics diagrams length etc

[Zmann]

This is my same adapter with cable but wiring out just for HC912 now. Some Micronas wire is not yet connected.

[rappttor]

yes because it was shipped without cable for micronas/freescale adapter

can you post some pictures of your cable too?
any informations/specifications will be good
thx

[jokersat]

test fail

xprog m v 5 micronas is not good = 0

i use good cable for coax wire, keep coax wire away from power and of course lift the xtal from board in any case

and nothing , bloked on baypass securite


we spend time

im waiting New R250s

@+

[exe123]

then you have bad clone. if you buy good clone or original xprog m you will have no problem.

I have no pictures of my adapter but i used good coax cable around 15cm and a simple connector that fits on the 9s12/micronas pcb.

[rappttor]

@exe:
on micronas, your xprog passes the security on first try? or you have to make several atempts?

[exe123]

almost everytime on first try

[frikki]

what the reason for the coax wire, and where does it get connected to. thanks

[rappttor]

i thought only mine makes this kind of driblling :)
anyway, i teste it on a golf 5 dashbord, with cdc3272 on it, xprog read/writes oki, but the dashbord module doesnt know to read out pin and km from it; xprog has this type of micronas only on skoda and caddy, and the readings are mabojambo, different encrition or location, i dont realy know.

the good news is that he reads!

[baleyba]

Hi all, Hi Exe ;)

Thanks for this instructive thread.
I just would like to know if I can swap my golfv tacho with xprog-m ?

Simply by cloning Chassis number (VIN), serial number, login code and km fields from old to new cluster.

Thanks for your help.

regards,
Bal.

[exe123]

no, you cannot. if you send eeprom + micronas content of both dashs I can clone it.

[jarfm]

My XProgM v5.0 works fine with Octavia 2007. Connection like description, but power leads like in the picture below.
Read/write - OK
Read PIN, VIN, S/N - OK

Micronas CDC3297G secured

[frikki]

hi jarfm. do you have picture of your adapter with wiring that you received or made up yourself. it will be appreciated if you can send a picture. i need to build one. thanks friend.

[jarfm]

hi jarfm. do you have picture of your adapter with wiring that you received or made up yourself. it will be appreciated if you can send a picture. i need to build one. thanks friend.

Hi, my adapter for secured MCU was included (XProg M v 5.0), only needs some modifications (described in errata..pdf). Tommorow i'll send some pictures.
Today i have tested on Passat 2008 CDC3217G, works FINE!

[jarfm]

Hi, as I promised, pictures of my adapter:

[dyc]

i try to make mileage octavia 2007 with CDC3217G my tools are working xprog clone ,r250 rs232 tested on many vw passats ,r250 usb , and carprog which maked passat without problems in the past and none of this tools are working on this cluster

[3abas27]

m8 if you have a problem just open your own thread, or talk here only if you have the same problem...

plz can some one explain to me whats the differnce to read with rs 232 and usb for xprom ?

[kocek]

rs232 +good power supply 12V = better stability

[georgegt]

work perfect on usb
need good cable for usb and good connection on board
an an external power is indicated

[joolsik]

Hi friends,

do I need external power for x-prog programmer when I want to decrypt or read/write micronas??? Or is it enough to power x-prog from USB??

[vuno01]

usb is enough for me

[dontzapit]

almost everytime on first try

the word ALMOST should be in capital letters, lol, i do 2 or 3 micronas a week and can assure you and everyone else that they never read perfectly first try, thats just a fact you have to accept with the Micronas chips, yes they are an ass of a chip to read but with the proper programmer not a difficult job to do

[matias]

I was only one time problem with Micronas with clone xprog. After this issue I bought ori, and when I haven?t in descritption in dashes for example in Skoda-Octavia II is marked as cdc3297g, then I click to VW Caddy, od other with the same 3217G MCU and read this as it. And all times was all right.