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mattydr67
14th April, 2013, 06:40 PM
Mate
Try few autoscans one by one
Lets say more then five Autoscans
And after each Autoscan take a look into the ABOUT
Maybe your issue is becasue:
1. Your tool it is erased
2. Your tool has a dump for a previos versions but cannot be erased and after you unplug it from USb and cara and then you plugg it back you have again your softwear Registred
3. Your FTDI or its eeprom 93Cxx it has problems
4. Using a runasdata with VCDS softwear can be one of the problem
Check this what I told you
Good luck

Fec001
14th April, 2013, 07:13 PM
OK thank you!
I will try but I tought it's a common problem

mattydr67
14th April, 2013, 08:55 PM
Me in the past I had this issues when I tried to use runasdata with this softwear
And when a tool loosed the licence
But FTDI issue can do this problem too
The message it is very clear: The communication between the tool and computer it was losed
Maybe there's ither causes but me I don't know item
Good luck

Fec001
14th April, 2013, 09:51 PM
Me in the past I had this issues when I tried to use runasdata with this softwear
And when a tool loosed the licence
But FTDI issue can do this problem too
The message it is very clear: The communication between the tool and computer it was losed
Maybe there's ither causes but me I don't know item
Good luck

Did you get something like this?

mattydr67
14th April, 2013, 10:02 PM
Yes
As i sadi this erros it comes when there's a USB comunication or maybe a bad comunication between ECU and computer
Or bad USB comunication between computer and tool
Did you get this error just in one specific car or allways? I mean in any car.
Good luck

Fec001
15th April, 2013, 12:48 AM
Always, on all cars

tiguan
15th April, 2013, 09:17 PM
USB-Cabel

does anyone know good link to buy it only USB cable
good quality more than 2 meter cable

192880

Fec001
16th April, 2013, 10:13 AM
Yes
As i sadi this erros it comes when there's a USB comunication or maybe a bad comunication between ECU and computer
Or bad USB comunication between computer and tool
Did you get this error just in one specific car or allways? I mean in any car.
Good luck

Have you got any info how to flash the atmega?

1 6 D
17th April, 2013, 08:00 AM
Does somebody know if this package is not a spam or something?
Repair Vag-Com Vcds Cable - 11.11.3 Dump And Installer.zip (http://www.nakido.com/6E0C87F75E024C30DD5861CEB10E024661495D8D)
I'm not able to download it, I have error all time :(

teerak2uk
17th April, 2013, 08:33 AM
Looking for lbl file for vw caddy 2k 1.9tdi

Many thanks

1 6 D
17th April, 2013, 09:26 AM
Will be better if you will write ECU number.

liviudiaconu
17th April, 2013, 09:55 AM
Does somebody know if this package is not a spam or something?
Repair Vag-Com Vcds Cable - 11.11.3 Dump And Installer.zip (http://www.nakido.com/6E0C87F75E024C30DD5861CEB10E024661495D8D)
I'm not able to download it, I have error all time :(

You must install nakido flag, then for free must wait the time displayed

1 6 D
17th April, 2013, 10:41 AM
NOD32 have discovered virus and blocked download, I will try second time with deactivated NOD.

EDIT:
I have downloaded one version and there is eeprom and flash, but serial is from 10.6.4 version

liviudiaconu
17th April, 2013, 01:43 PM
Yes, in .rar archive exist a file named setup. Have a worm inside, MS Essentials sed that.

And yes, the dumps are for 10.6.4/11.2.0

manocao
20th April, 2013, 10:07 AM
Great review Manocao, but why does this USB-Serial IC have so poor performance that many software that uses the simple KKL interface doesn't work good with it????. Some names are Nefmoto, Ecuflash, BMW Inpa, etc..... inclusive I heard that some special functions managed with VagCom311, VagCom409 or VCDSLite get issues or errors with that KKL interface with the CH340T chip inside.

yes, it's true
as i said, any ftdi ic is much better than winchiphead's ch340
ftdi ic's are high performance chips, very reliable
in both cases, lm339 is also a problem because they usually burn out leaving interface unusable
look here how to repair just for a few cents
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f154/repair-vag-com-409-1-kkl-interface-ft232rl-lm339-328571/

tiguan
21st April, 2013, 10:29 AM
USB Cabel,

anyone know where I can buy this USB OBD cable

194120

ovix
25th April, 2013, 11:14 PM
Hello guys,
I have a problem with an interface VCDS 11.11.0. After I wrote the atmega-dump (on the other interface this dump work perfect), I tested my car with auto-scan, it tested a few modules, and after that, an error occurred (see picture). I wrote this dump with PonyProg on LPT port (with 1kohm resistors).
The internet connections was OFF, the dump was tested on other interface, so it is OK
After that I wrote another dump (for VCDS 11.2.0 BETTA), but I had the same issue.

Note: On ABOUT the interface is UNREGISTERED!

Can you tell me which the cause of the fault is in this case?

best regards.

1 6 D
27th April, 2013, 08:15 AM
Have you checked FTDI?

ovix
27th April, 2013, 05:07 PM
yes, I checked...
in device manager the interface is OK.
It may be the cause of this issue atmega 162? fuse bits block or something like that...? the bit SPIEN cheeked and freez.

mladen76
27th April, 2013, 09:17 PM
Have you tryed reflash it again?
You say internet was OFF,is it off all the time?

ovix
28th April, 2013, 08:31 AM
I reflashed it, but without positive results.
The internet was OFF all time.

mattydr67
28th April, 2013, 09:42 AM
Some pics with your tool's PCB ( both sides ) will be great to figure it out of what exaclly tool we're talking about. There's many kind of PCB and solutions for each one of them.
Make an interface TEST and check if both K line are OK ( k1-OK, k2-OK )
Check it in the Device Manger when that issue mesage will come
Check if it is showed in there or not.
Good luck

ovix
28th April, 2013, 12:48 PM
195434195435
This is the interface. (VG.A 2010-04-08)
I made an Interface Test, and the result was K1-OK and K2-OK.

mattydr67
28th April, 2013, 02:50 PM
Well
FCirst of all because i cannot see very well from the pics, my advice is to clean up a littel bit the STC, R50 and T5 pads
Maybe there's a short cut
And check just to be sure that theres no short cut between that pads
Then try to fkash it again
A 'burned GAL" can couse also your issue.
Good luck

ovix
28th April, 2013, 03:21 PM
I verified, and there are not shorts.
Can you tell me how I can verify the GAL?

naelraddad
28th April, 2013, 09:23 PM
hi friends
I need your help I bought 5 cables for VCDS 12.10.3 from china I installed the software on 2 laptops which was installed previous version of VCDS 11.11.3 ( I uninstalled the previous version before installed new version 12.10.3 I have the errors as show in attached pictures the cable did not work )
I tested the cables on 4 other laptops which never been installed any version of vcds and the cables worked nice one has windows xp operating system the others with windows 7
the 2 laptops that did not worked with vcds one is windows 7 and the other with XP

please notice the names of pictuers
any idea

Thanks in advanced195513195514195515195516195517

mattydr67
29th April, 2013, 06:49 AM
Did you made this tests with the interface plugged into a car and USB ro... jsut into USB?
Check the VID/PID
Good luck

liviudiaconu
29th April, 2013, 11:21 AM
@nae.....
I understud this: On the 4 laptops (one with xp and 3 with w7) work fine, and ths 4 laptops never had before installed VCDS.
On your laptop don't work fine. Is correct?
If yes, the "guilty" is your laptop, maybe have updater in startup, in registry, etc.

And yes, like sed matty, the test must made with the cable plugged in the car and in usb.

naelraddad
29th April, 2013, 07:04 PM
@nae.....
I understud this: On the 4 laptops (one with xp and 3 with w7) work fine, and ths 4 laptops never had before installed VCDS.
On your laptop don't work fine. Is correct?
If yes, the "guilty" is your laptop, maybe have updater in startup, in registry, etc.

And yes, like sed matty, the test must made with the cable plugged in the car and in usb.


thanks friends for reply
if you look to the name of each picture is describe the conditions of test as folow
picture 1 USB cable Not connected to pc
picture 2 USB cable connected to pc not connected to car
picture 3 usb connected to pc and car
picture 4 trying to test engine ecu Cable is connected to car and usb port
picture 5 Device Maneger pic ( to show that the driver is installed correctly )

i tested the interfaces with 4 laptops which never have VCDS installed with XP and 7
but i have problem on 2 other laptops which was used with vcds 11.11.3 one is with xp and the second with windows 7

as you said my i have problem with start up or registry so may you help me to solve this problem

Regards

liviudiaconu
30th April, 2013, 06:31 AM
Try to use b.e. Revo Uninstaller and uninstall all versions of VCDS from PC, uninstall VCDS drivers, clean registry or "Start->run->regedit"
Find "Ross" or "VCDS" keys and delete.
Restart pc, reinstall VCDS with ALL "network adapters" disabled (included wireless).
After install, Start->Programs->Startup. If see a shortcut "VCDS Updater" or something, rightclick on it and delete.
Start-run-MSCONFIG.
Choose Services tab; chek "hide all MS services" and look if an "VCDS" exist; if yes, unchek.
Choose Startup tab; look if an "VCDS" exist, unchek. Restart. "VCDS" mean something like VCDS (VCDS updater, VCDS update, etc)

naelraddad
1st May, 2013, 08:44 AM
Try to use b.e. Revo Uninstaller and uninstall all versions of VCDS from PC, uninstall VCDS drivers, clean registry or "Start->run->regedit"
Find "Ross" or "VCDS" keys and delete.
Restart pc, reinstall VCDS with ALL "network adapters" disabled (included wireless).
After install, Start->Programs->Startup. If see a shortcut "VCDS Updater" or something, rightclick on it and delete.
Start-run-MSCONFIG.
Choose Services tab; chek "hide all MS services" and look if an "VCDS" exist; if yes, unchek.
Choose Startup tab; look if an "VCDS" exist, unchek. Restart. "VCDS" mean something like VCDS (VCDS updater, VCDS update, etc)
thank you friend for your help but it did not success to use the VCDS same previous errors

Regards

silikon21
6th May, 2013, 05:55 PM
Hi everyone!
Can someone tell me if I can upgrade this VAg Com 704.1 cable to 11.11 version? What is the latest update that I can use for this version of PCB? 196810

Update !!! : Removed U9, reflashed FT232BL and Atmega and I have now 11.11.0 :)

liviudiaconu
8th May, 2013, 10:40 AM
thank you friend for your help but it did not success to use the VCDS same previous errors

Regards
So, that vcds cable[s] still working on another pc and don't work on your's? In this case the final solution is: "Format C: - reinstall Windows"
Or see if you have the correct MBdrivers (for correct usb working) and "dotnet framework 3.51 and/or 4.0...
Something in your pc is not working correct.

tas_daz
9th May, 2013, 06:54 PM
i have vcds clone 812 and work ok in xp until my laptop burn.i take new with win7.the drivers not work?i try to install all ok but can t find vag com.thanks win 7 is 32 bit

liviudiaconu
10th May, 2013, 05:50 AM
812 is verry older version.
Update-it to 11.11.0

ptalev
10th May, 2013, 06:32 PM
Hi i have this cable vag908 repair to work with vcds 10.6 but die. What the latest version and how i can make to work with latest version.197594197595197596197597

liviudiaconu
13th May, 2013, 06:01 AM
Latest version FREE = 11.11.0.
Your cable is with RL... so you must use the loader.

ptalev
15th May, 2013, 08:10 PM
Where i get latest version

mattydr67
15th May, 2013, 09:33 PM
The lastest version it is VCDS 11.11.5 and VCDS 12.10.5 Beta
You cannot find dumo for free.
But you can get the a tool working with VCDS 11.11.5 English version
Good luck

ptalev
16th May, 2013, 05:51 PM
.Where i can buy latest dump and working tool?

alexm1
17th May, 2013, 10:04 AM
Hy,
Someone can help with a vag 10.6.4 Installer in romanian language?
I want to buy a SH cable and seller says that cable is 10.6.4 in romanian language but does not find the cd with the installer ( or is not in romanian language) and I want to test before I buy it.
So, if someone you can help me please upload or post a link.

megasosio
19th May, 2013, 03:08 PM
Hi!, i buy a vcds 11.5 interface for extracting the dump. The interface its simply only, ftdi 232rl, mcp2515, mcp2551 and atmega 162. I try to read atmega whit ponyprog and a diy lpt programmer, and read ok but the dump content is not valid... then i try to read whit upa usb and again same invalid dump... and for last y desolder atmega and read off the board and again same bad dump... and i program another vcds interface i have whit the dump extracted and not work.... If something can help me???. Its possible to atmega162 has encryptation???...

mattydr67
19th May, 2013, 03:27 PM
Atmega it is write protected mate. Do you think that seller are such a stupid guys to let it to be read it.
Forget about this you'll not be able with that tools.
Good luck

alessioblaupunkt
20th May, 2013, 12:45 PM
Please nobody know why I have such a big N/A block?
It's a blue china kkl/usb cable. Running Amine's one.

Thanks.

KenshinPT
20th May, 2013, 05:40 PM
Hi!, i buy a vcds 11.5 interface for extracting the dump. The interface its simply only, ftdi 232rl, mcp2515, mcp2551 and atmega 162. I try to read atmega whit ponyprog and a diy lpt programmer, and read ok but the dump content is not valid... then i try to read whit upa usb and again same invalid dump... and for last y desolder atmega and read off the board and again same bad dump... and i program another vcds interface i have whit the dump extracted and not work.... If something can help me???. Its possible to atmega162 has encryptation???...

lots of lulz! :D

pox
24th May, 2013, 11:06 AM
195434195435
This is the interface. (VG.A 2010-04-08)
I made an Interface Test, and the result was K1-OK and K2-OK.

Hi

How to reflash Atmega on this board?
Is it enough to solder the SPI for Atmega?

mattydr67
24th May, 2013, 02:11 PM
Yes and power it up with 12V
Good luck

Avf130
29th May, 2013, 01:55 AM
Hello.Is there a guide in PDF how to update my VCDS 10.6 Cable to VCDS11.11 ?
What should i check ?

telesfor
1st June, 2013, 12:24 PM
instructions to upgrade to 11.11 but do not have the Poles who are looking for the installer loads, drivers, and user insnstalacji I put RAR.

LPSERV
2nd June, 2013, 08:05 AM
I use parallel programmmer with 4 resistor, and work perfect....

andrius
3rd June, 2013, 03:49 PM
if i teoreticaly have had a few dumps from org cabel with ft232RQ chip, is there a posibility to transfere that eeprom to cable with ft232BM cable and get it working? :) as even serial that depends on ft type is not correct and license will not pass without modification :) many thanks :)

Avf130
3rd June, 2013, 06:53 PM
instructions to upgrade to 11.11 but do not have the Poles who are looking for the installer loads, drivers, and user insnstalacji I put RAR.

U have something in English ?

BrendanT
4th June, 2013, 06:07 AM
Please can someone help we with this!!! been trying to fine out if chinese clone cable 11.11.3 will work with the hex mp9 reset software...

i have been looking everywhere to see if anyone has tested this. thanks

Chriss1981
7th June, 2013, 07:56 AM
I have the 11.11.3 for ft232rl based interface without gal.

avo3
9th June, 2013, 09:18 PM
Helo mates,
I have one little question from where can I take working clone to update it to vcds the newest version. Would it be an good to buy it on ebay but what I should to write on the search field to get really working one or the best idea will be made one by myself. Could You give me some liks.
Which interface will be better:
http://www.ebay.pl/itm/LATEST-VAG-COM-11-11-VCDS-Diagnostic-TOOL-KIT-OBD-HEX-CAN-USB-11-3-10-6-4-/300916624973?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4610074e4d
or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181155039749?item=181155039749&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&cmd=ViewItem&hash=item2a2dae8a05&vxp=mtr

Thanks in advance for the answer

mattydr67
10th June, 2013, 05:36 AM
Mate
Akk this new chinese tools working with 11.11.3 or with 12.10.3 beta are the one without GAL/ATF
So first of all it hasn't GAL/ATF and this is bad, no all functions activated.
Then the Chinese softwears are made to "kill" your tool not to protrect becasue they need to sell more not to make you happy.
The protection with firewall or to write 127.0...... into the HOSTS it is not a good solution for now.
So if want to have no problem in the fuhure you need to spend more money the 20-30 USD and you'll have a HQ clone and no internet problems at all.
But this you'll not find in the ebay for sure
Good luck

magadan
10th June, 2013, 03:57 PM
if i teoreticaly have had a few dumps from org cabel with ft232RQ chip, is there a posibility to transfere that eeprom to cable with ft232BM cable and get it working? :) as even serial that depends on ft type is not correct and license will not pass without modification :) many thanks :)
I write a loader in such cases . And the program starts working with it eeprom.

avo3
10th June, 2013, 04:24 PM
Thank You mattydr67 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/8710-mattydr67/) for Your fast answer but where I could buy this clone. Do You recomend some solution or web shop

mattydr67
10th June, 2013, 04:28 PM
Sorry mate
I cannot help you in this, I mean to recomand someoneelse or a web shop.
Good luck

alexm1
13th June, 2013, 09:04 AM
203614203615203616It is necessary , before reflahs, to remove some parts from this interface?
It is FTDI-BL and from what I read on the forum must stay how it is...
I am asking because I reflash it with 11.11 and after first autoscan became "unregistered".

mattydr67
13th June, 2013, 09:26 AM
Yes of course you need to unsolder the Q9 and R51 must be there another component but I canno t see it. I suppose that it is near the USB wires ( it is Tx )
After you'll unsolder this component, you have to check if there's any short cuts and if there isn't any you can reflash it
Good luck

alexm1
13th June, 2013, 09:54 AM
I found R51 it is next to LED, but Q9 wich is it? And the third component?See new and more clear photo, if you have some free time, please edit one of the photo and indicate what to unsolder. 203628203629

mattydr67
13th June, 2013, 11:47 AM
Yes unsolder U9 and r51 then flash the Atmega
Good luck

alexm1
13th June, 2013, 07:28 PM
I did what you said and after few scans it is Fully Registered.
Thank you.

spider45
16th June, 2013, 12:30 PM
Hello everyone, I have my block pcb after an update, today I read a lot of pages and I can not find pcb identical to mine and I do not know what I must here are photos he was in English 10.6.4
if a charitable soul to help me thank you204304204305204306204309

mattydr67
16th June, 2013, 01:46 PM
Flash the Atmega thats all
Or unsolder the STC if you don't let you flash
Good luck

spider45
16th June, 2013, 04:54 PM
issue after the flash, it must return the STC because I wanted to flash the FTDI but nothing to do, nothing happens thank you


question about the copy or original interface??

liviudiaconu
17th June, 2013, 05:28 AM
204309

Is your's pcb photo? If yes, must work without STC

spider45
17th June, 2013, 02:41 PM
Hello there I am with pictures of the PCB with jtag house that can remain inside204482204483

magadan
17th June, 2013, 05:32 PM
Hello there I am with pictures of the PCB with jtag house that can remain inside
It is possible to tear off connections to a chip atmega if often to use 4 pin connector. It will be so better as I consider.

cniky
23rd June, 2013, 07:46 PM
12.10.3 ENG - China , dump included, enjoy !

pass - digital-kaos

pioter117
24th June, 2013, 06:11 AM
Rar indicates an incorrect password

1 6 D
24th June, 2013, 08:53 AM
Pass is correct.

It should work with RL tool? And what VID PID should it have?

I have tried FA24 and FA30 and it doesn't want to find interface.

And why serial in dump and in VCDS is other

Serial in dump:
hexc715-00A8F2-A9D716-.....

Serial in VCDS:
hexa193-00c66e-3ee7a9-.....

liviudiaconu
25th June, 2013, 05:52 AM
Realy working?

1 6 D
25th June, 2013, 09:18 AM
With RL tool and FA24 doesn't work, doesn't want to pass TEST in options. I haven't tried FA30.

If serials are different I think it's fake.

liviudiaconu
25th June, 2013, 09:26 AM
In rt-usb.inf file have only fa20,23,24,25, so...fa30 don't work...

cniky
25th June, 2013, 09:48 AM
RL cable + STC chip only.

liviudiaconu
25th June, 2013, 11:32 AM
Nice idea!

alexm1
25th June, 2013, 02:43 PM
Will not work with BM/BL?

mattydr67
25th June, 2013, 03:55 PM
Nop
Good luck

spider45
25th June, 2013, 08:41 PM
Rar indicates an incorrect password please

1 6 D
25th June, 2013, 09:26 PM
I have now VCDS 912 RL clone, which dump can I load into and what version can I use without modification of GAL (I have removed D7, IC8, R50,R51), 10.6.4/11.2? With loader I think?

I have tried 11.11.0 and 11.2 with loaders and when I make TEST it shows message about not found interface or not plugged in car. Fuses wa CD DC F9 C8 at first, now they are CD DC F9 FF. FTDI RL was set to FA24 with RT000001.

liviudiaconu
26th June, 2013, 12:40 PM
You must reprogramm gal and reroute (solder 3 wires).
Like in Aminebot's tutorial. And, of course, use a specific loader for every version you use.
Or, choose the solution "without gal" but...i understud that you cannot make all programming and adaptation with VCDS...

1 6 D
26th June, 2013, 01:00 PM
I have not a programmer for GAL, without GAL all functions on K-line will work?

liviudiaconu
26th June, 2013, 01:54 PM
GAL is for K-line functions..

spider45
26th June, 2013, 07:07 PM
hello all are what someone would flash the recent french? thank you

or the latest available version

andrius
26th June, 2013, 09:40 PM
GAL is only for dumb interface mode, to work as pass through as simple kkl :D so without GAL all VCDS functions not requaring pass through work, as Atmega takes all calculations for k line and CAN using VCDS. will repeat GAL only for dumb mode :) they do not hide it in official page :)

andrius
26th June, 2013, 09:43 PM
is there a way to bypass security for RL chip, for eg if i have an org cable with RQ chip and have full content of Atmega, how can i get it working with simple BM type adaprets, as for not it shows license in red, as ican not find a way to write license to RL chips :) anyone could help? :) maybe for a small reward :D PM please :)

magadan
26th June, 2013, 10:12 PM
is there a way to bypass security for RL chip, for eg if i have an org cable with RQ chip and have full content of Atmega, how can i get it working with simple BM type adaprets, as for not it shows license in red, as ican not find a way to write license to RL chips :) anyone could help? :) maybe for a small reward :D PM please :)
Write me the PM. But I shall see contents eeprom. Initial address 00000040, end address 0000013F. It is a license zone.

magadan
27th June, 2013, 10:03 PM
12.10.3 ENG - China , dump included, enjoy !

pass - digital-kaos
Your EEPROM atmega the bad.
1. The loader (vcds.exe) wants ChipID=$7A5E for FT232R. And eeprom atmega has ChipID=$7F17 for FT232R.
2. But even if to change ChipID to the necessary value, all the same a cable isn't tested.
This eeprom or is incorrectly calculated, or from other language version of the program.

alex77vl
28th June, 2013, 10:27 AM
Hello friends,

I have a problem with a 2007 audi a3.I have try to reset the service interval manual and after that with vcds and won`t work.
Please i wait a solution.

Thanks!

spider45
30th June, 2013, 12:07 PM
Hello friends, just tell you that I reprogram? my PCB with eng 11.11.0 dump and it works great even without removing the STC
Today I am looking for a french dump
thank you to you all

lockter
30th June, 2013, 09:25 PM
Hi guys, I have damaged cable in version 12.10.3. Windows recoginsed cable properly but it is unlicensed.

Unfortunatelly, as you can see the ATMEGA is completely covered with something (it's under 7805). It is very hard. Have you any ideas how to reach required connections? Can I remove it with something?

206876206875206877

And another question. Do I need change / remove some parts from this cable to do reprogramming?

spider45
1st July, 2013, 09:12 AM
hello I would not say stupidity, but there is a emplacemement with 4 holes logically be able to reflash but requires confirmation expert

mladen76
1st July, 2013, 09:03 PM
Hi guys, I have damaged cable in version 12.10.3. Windows recoginsed cable properly but it is unlicensed.

Unfortunatelly, as you can see the ATMEGA is completely covered with something (it's under 7805). It is very hard. Have you any ideas how to reach required connections? Can I remove it with something?

206876206875206877

And another question. Do I need change / remove some parts from this cable to do reprogramming?

You can maybe try whit hot air,and maybe it is not even Amega,maybe it is NEC so you can not reflash it.
Also those holes,I do not belive that it is for Atmega reflash.
Those fu...g chines,some stuff they do,like it is some kind of secret what chip it is ;)

lockter
1st July, 2013, 09:17 PM
Also those holes,I do not belive that it is for Atmega reflash.


What holes are you talking about?

mladen76
1st July, 2013, 09:24 PM
You see those marked whit G T R V letters,I am talking about those ;)

lockter
1st July, 2013, 09:41 PM
Ah yes. I agree, don't think these are for reflash :)

But maybe these connetions for atmega should be available from another pins/components? I found some example these 4 ATMEGA pins are visible.

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But where they are on my board :)

magadan
1st July, 2013, 10:52 PM
Hi guys, I have damaged cable in version 12.10.3. Windows recoginsed cable properly but it is unlicensed.

Unfortunatelly, as you can see the ATMEGA is completely covered with something (it's under 7805). It is very hard. Have you any ideas how to reach required connections? Can I remove it with something?

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And another question. Do I need change / remove some parts from this cable to do reprogramming?

Atmega is under a glue, it is right for 99%. You remove glue on the left side of a chip (look figure 2 and 3). When you will see contacts, check connections:
pin1(Atmega) - pin14(MCP2515)
pin2(Atmega) - pin15(MCP2515)
pin3(Atmega) - pin13(MCP2515).
The reference mark is the left top corner of a chip. Counting is conducted counterclockwise. If these connections are present, it atmega. Connect contacts with a programmator so:
pin13(MCP2515) - SCK
pin14(MCP2515) - MOSI
pin15(MCP2515) - MISO
pin4(Atmega) - Reset
Contacts of GND and +5 volts (if it is necessary) attach to L7805CV.


You see those marked whit G T R V letters,I am talking about those ;)
G T R V is contacts for IC8 programming (chip-protect) look figure 1.

Here it is your connections:

kdijagnostika
9th July, 2013, 04:13 PM
Hello. Does someone use VCDS 12.10.3 software? My was working good until 01.07.2013. After that date VCDS don't recognize cable anymore. If I return date to days before 01.07. 2013 cable again work good. Is this some new protection system in VCDS Beta version? Do someone have this software without this problem?

audiomeca
9th July, 2013, 08:46 PM
Hello friends,

I have a problem with a 2007 audi a3.I have try to reset the service interval manual and after that with vcds and won`t work.
Please i wait a solution.

Thanks!

hello this car type only posible with original 5054vas

In the new cars you need change valour in 54, 55,56,57 channel from the 17 instrument cluster, new parameters are added in new cars 2007 and up

regards

mattydr67
10th July, 2013, 04:46 AM
Or use SRI function in VCDS
Good luck

bibkare
10th July, 2013, 01:18 PM
Every beta version has expiry date, you can avoid that by using programs such as runasdate etc..

mattydr67
10th July, 2013, 03:14 PM
Runasdat could creat problem if you use with VCDS
I tested in the past and if you do a Autoscan then it will stop an will give an error as the one that you recive when your Atmega it is erased
Good luck

bounce24
14th July, 2013, 04:57 PM
Hello ,
I have a vag 11.11.3 clone it is with FTDI 232 RL chip... and i try to resoft it , i used some programmer to resoft the ATmega 162 and it works to resoft , but the LED is not flashing at all and the interface doesn't work. It has no GAL chip . So please can you help me ? i will attach some picture with my interface ?209155209156

bibkare
14th July, 2013, 06:47 PM
Hello ,
I have a vag 11.11.3 clone it is with FTDI 232 RL chip... and i try to resoft it , i used some programmer to resoft the ATmega 162 and it works to resoft , but the LED is not flashing at all and the interface doesn't work. It has no GAL chip . So please can you help me ? i will attach some picture with my interface ?209155209156

Hmm, i've seen a lot of interfaces like this one lately. Unfortunately they are total c.r.a.p. First you need to check voltage regulator 7805 and if it's OK you will have to reflash atmega again with another dump (probably special chinese dump) because LED is controlled by atmega. Honestly i think it's a waist of time, get another interface based on ft232bl.

liviudiaconu
15th July, 2013, 05:43 AM
What regulator? That interface haven't voltage regulator, all 5V are from USB.

bounce24
15th July, 2013, 07:44 PM
hi , and thanks for advice ...but like "liviudiaconu" said it has no 7805 regulator . So do you have some other advice ? thanks in advanced .

liviudiaconu
16th July, 2013, 09:06 AM
Plug to +12V, plug usb cable, make sure programmer GND is connected to interface GND, programm Atmega with proper dump.
Make sure you have VID 0403 PID Fa24.
Use proper soft.
At the end of programming atmega the led must start lighting, first red after green.

bibkare
16th July, 2013, 01:04 PM
What regulator? That interface haven't voltage regulator, all 5V are from USB.


Thanks liviudiaconu you're right it doesn't have, i was speaking without thinking, force of habit i guess "if LED doesn't work automatically check 7805". Funny tough i have one interface like that here on my table and i soldered 7805 on it maybe that's what confused me. Anyway sorry for distraction.

bounce24
16th July, 2013, 03:10 PM
ok thanks for this advice . Actually I used the 11.11.0 dump ...maybe this is the problem . I think the the + 12 V and GND i put ok . Do you know where i can find the 11.11.3 dump ? can you send me a link ? Thank You very much !

liviudiaconu
17th July, 2013, 05:30 AM
[...] i soldered 7805 on it maybe that's what confused me. Anyway sorry for distraction.



If you solder 7805 you must cut a "copper track" or "copper line" between +5V USB and +5V Atmega and other. If you think logical, you'll find.

spider45
17th July, 2013, 05:48 AM
hello friends I have to recover a multilengage PCB, it runs in french with latest version 11.11.5 11.11.6 and in English.
that PCBs are a team atmel chip 162 gal 16V8 and FT232RL mcp 2515
my question would be recovered dumps for this PCB to dump

is there a risk to the pcb and how to thank you209534209535

liviudiaconu
17th July, 2013, 08:40 AM
The interface don't work? Is recognized as VID 0403 PID FA24?
If Yes, must reflash atmega with proper dump and use proper soft.

bibkare
17th July, 2013, 08:42 AM
If you solder 7805 you must cut a "copper track" or "copper line" between +5V USB and +5V Atmega and other. If you think logical, you'll find.
I did it just for testing, without plug in USB cable into PC. This interface is for spare parts, it has 1AM transistors which are better than J3Y

ludbe
18th July, 2013, 09:05 AM
i recieve VCDS clone 12.10.3, i installed software but when i go to device manager to select driver from folder where i installed VCDS software, there no driver is found, what should i do?

ludbe
18th July, 2013, 09:17 AM
i recieve VCDS clone 12.10.3, i installed software but when i go to device manager to select driver from folder where i installed VCDS software, there no driver is found, what should i do?

ludbe
18th July, 2013, 09:23 AM
Atmega is under a glue, it is right for 99%. You remove glue on the left side of a chip (look figure 2 and 3). When you will see contacts, check connections:
pin1(Atmega) - pin14(MCP2515)
pin2(Atmega) - pin15(MCP2515)
pin3(Atmega) - pin13(MCP2515).
The reference mark is the left top corner of a chip. Counting is conducted counterclockwise. If these connections are present, it atmega. Connect contacts with a programmator so:
pin13(MCP2515) - SCK
pin14(MCP2515) - MOSI
pin15(MCP2515) - MISO
pin4(Atmega) - Reset
Contacts of GND and +5 volts (if it is necessary) attach to L7805CV.


G T R V is contacts for IC8 programming (chip-protect) look figure 1.

Here it is your connections:

is this programmer OK to do this job?
PIC K150 ICSP Programmer USB Automatic Programming Develop Microcontroller + USB ICSP cable-in Other Electronic Components from Electronic Components & Supplies on Aliexpress.com (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/PIC-USB-Microcontroller-Development-Programmer-ICSP-k150-USB-cable-ICSP-cable/592033253.html)

mattydr67
18th July, 2013, 09:55 AM
Mates my advise is that when you want to spend money ( chep price especially ) on a chip cracp tool be carfull
That tool without GAL can works just with its softwear and I suppose that it was shared in this thread or in other one ( I don't know which one ) the dump for VCDS 12.10.3 which ( the psoter said ) it works with this kind of tools
I suppose that dumps we all all and all the other that just one of us know item dose't works with this tool
So when you buy a new tool be sure that this one it has Atmega ( first of all - if it has NEC do not buy it ) then be sure f it has GAL ( very important to be able to use all the functions that VCDS has ) and in the last take care to be with FTDI BL/BM ( if it has FTDI RL it is not such a problem abut take care that it has Atnega + GAL +FTDI )
Then you cna buy it
And the most important think when you buy a chinese clone it is that before you install the softwear do not have any internet connection and after installation of VCDS remove forever your internet connection.\This is if you like to have a good working tool in the futhure. Otherwise the tool it will be erased if you have any internet connection no matter when you use it
Good luck

ludbe
18th July, 2013, 06:31 PM
i have atmega + gal16v8b and ftdi is that ok clone? but anyway i must reflash atmega and i am asking u guys if this programmer will do this job PIC K150 ICSP Programmer USB Automatic Programming Develop Microcontroller + USB ICSP cable-in Other Electronic Components from Electronic Components & Supplies on Aliexpress.com (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/PIC-USB-Microcontroller-Development-Programmer-ICSP-k150-USB-cable-ICSP-cable/592033253.html)

mattydr67
19th July, 2013, 06:32 AM
i have atmega + gal16v8b and ftdi is that ok clone? but anyway i must reflash atmega and i am asking u guys if this programmer will do this job PIC K150 ICSP Programmer USB Automatic Programming Develop Microcontroller + USB ICSP cable-in Other Electronic Components from Electronic Components & Supplies on Aliexpress.com (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/PIC-USB-Microcontroller-Development-Programmer-ICSP-k150-USB-cable-ICSP-cable/592033253.html)
Hi mate
First of all that programmer it is forPIC MCU not for Atmega MCU
Now take a look in the Device Manager and see what is the VID/PID
if it is 0403/FA30 then you have to make some changes in the VCDS installed files of USB (in RT-USB.inf )
So check this first
Good luck

qweqweqweqwe
23rd July, 2013, 06:22 PM
Have someone a picture with the ATMEGA and wires. Where can I plug the interface to +12V on my computer ?

mattydr67
24th July, 2013, 06:00 AM
12V from an external power supply not from your computer mate
Go on web and sear5ch about dattasheet of Atmega 162 and you'll see then the wires from programmer must go on first 4 pins of Atmega MCU ( 1,2,3,4 )
Good luck

overs0ull
24th July, 2013, 06:20 PM
Hi gays , i read the thread and is perfect .
But please if someone of you can tell me something about my problem whit vag com 11.11.0 chines clone - the problem is it work fine all good , but when i start to see live data ot ecu , or abs don't meter . the vag com crash and stop communication or stuck for 10 sec. or 5 every time is different and i don't from what .
I try whit different drivers , new fresh xp , and all usb ports - and is the same .
Please if someone know the answer or what i suppose to do let say .
Thanks for a help and Regards .

mattydr67
24th July, 2013, 06:47 PM
Mate
First of all you ahve to see if your tool is it still registred or not\Then we will see if it is a hardwear issues or OS issue or computer issue or ECu issue
So please uninstall your VCDS softwear, then reboot
After this instl the VCDS softwear back and go to your car plug the interface to USB and to your car diagnostic connector and do a Tool TEST
Then go to about and see if it is Registred or Unregistred
Then please come back and tell us how it is and we will see then what\s your problem
Good luck

overs0ull
24th July, 2013, 07:17 PM
Hi mate , thanks a lot for the help . Tomorrow i will test and report after that cause the car is in not in me at the moment .
I will make what you say and after that i will report .
My Vag com 11.11.0 is chines and i think hi don't need registration but i will see .
I will un install it , and after that go na install it again whit out to install or un install drivers - write , only the application VCDS 11.11.0 .
Thanks for the help and Regards .

ludbe
25th July, 2013, 05:36 PM
i have cable 12.10.3 version. With cable i get vcds 12.10.3 program without install.exe file but i must only copy and paste folder ROSS TECH to C: disk and create shortcut on desktop. I then connected cable to computer and tried to install drivers, but no drivers was found. That was on windows 7 32bit. The same thing i did on my windows xp, virtual machine, but there drivers was detected in ROSS TECH folder. I then installed them, but when i click test in vcds 12.10.3 program it says: PORT STATUS: ok, interface not found. Can someone help me? Regards

mattydr67
26th July, 2013, 06:23 AM
The led it is turned on?
Plug it into the car and try TEST again
Good luck

ludbe
26th July, 2013, 10:27 AM
the led is burning green but no interface is found :(

mattydr67
26th July, 2013, 02:06 PM
Mate
Plug the interface to the USB
Go to Device Manager and check your VID/PID
It must be one of this VID_0403/PID_FA20 if the tool it is with FTDI BL/BM or
it has has to be VID_0403/PID_FA24 if it is with FTDI RL
If you have VID_0403/PID_FA30 then you have to do some modification in RT-USB.inf file if you want that your tool to be recognized by the VCDS softwear
If you have any other VID/PID then you need to reflash your Atmega
If you have one of that VID/PID then go to your car and plug the tool to the USB and to the OBD connector to your car and TEST again
Do this and lets see what will be next
FYI two pics with your both sides of your PCB will be very usefull to see what kind of tool you have
Good luck

DiagService
28th July, 2013, 04:01 PM
Hi guys I need HELP
My vag work not, I will update Atmega 162 with Ponyprog with LPT solution
MOSI: 1100 Ohm
MISO: 470 Ohm
CLOCK: 1100 Ohm
RESET: 1100 Ohm
Extrenal power
Always I have troble code (-24)

Hava you any Ideea ???
Thankss

liviudiaconu
29th July, 2013, 10:57 AM
Why two values?
Try ALL only 470 ohm

magadan
29th July, 2013, 12:35 PM
Hi guys I need HELP
My vag work not, I will update Atmega 162 with Ponyprog with LPT solution
MOSI: 1100 Ohm
MISO: 470 Ohm
CLOCK: 1100 Ohm
RESET: 1100 Ohm
Extrenal power
Always I have troble code (-24)

Hava you any Ideea ???
Thankss
Google will help you :" Ponyprog error 24". (The program doesn't see atmega.)
1. Check connection atmega to the computer.
2. Check settings of the interface in the program of Poniprog.
3. Try to program atmega other programmator. (ISP-prog example).
4. Atmega it can be closed for programming on this ISP-interface.
..............
And etc.

ludbe
29th July, 2013, 10:17 PM
I have this version VID_0403/PID_FA24 , i tried today TEST several times but always same message http://shrani.si/f/w/Ck/2gQ8N66L/1/untitled.png here are pictures of PCB http://shrani.si/f/1c/XX/2DlmrBy9/2013-07-29-225942.jpg http://shrani.si/f/2a/vM/eZkwghy/2013-07-29-225933.jpg

ta79pr
30th July, 2013, 01:04 AM
I read somewhere that the system date had to be before may 20.

liviudiaconu
30th July, 2013, 05:53 AM
Try test interface without power +12V. If appear "Not plugged into a car", you have bad dump, dump corrupted.
But for sure, please, put here a picture with the other face of PCB

ludbe
30th July, 2013, 06:04 AM
no it doesnt appear this message. here you go other side of PCB
http://shrani.si/f/1c/XX/2DlmrBy9/2013-07-29-225942.jpg

liviudiaconu
30th July, 2013, 06:48 AM
What message appear?
With +12V i understud, appear like in your picture, "interface not found".
Without +12V (with cable in USB, of course)what message appear?

ludbe
30th July, 2013, 10:04 AM
i recieve this instructions from chinese, i will try today and report:

Close the anti-virus software
1.please uninstall software first friend
2.then copy the software to your PC and install it again
3.change your computer time 2013.06.01
4. install the software
5.you can test it again

liviudiaconu
30th July, 2013, 10:26 AM
OK, do that.Beta versions are limited in time.

rsibiza
30th July, 2013, 01:12 PM
Hi guys I need HELP
My vag work not, I will update Atmega 162 with Ponyprog with LPT solution
MOSI: 1100 Ohm
MISO: 470 Ohm
CLOCK: 1100 Ohm
RESET: 1100 Ohm
Extrenal power
Always I have troble code (-24)

Hava you any Ideea ???
Thankss


If your sure of your connection,just do without resistors,as describen in 1 of my first atmega162 rewriting tuto here on DK, the resistors are just to protect Paralell Port in PC...better result without resistors...

Bllinda
30th July, 2013, 01:45 PM
i recieve this instructions from chinese, i will try today and report:

Close the anti-virus software
1.please uninstall software first friend
2.then copy the software to your PC and install it again
3.change your computer time 2013.06.01
4. install the software
5.you can test it again
so wrong, and did not start the 7-x64. try with_XP, do not install, just overwrite
Send printscr. Iternet turn off. PM ...

ludbe
30th July, 2013, 05:49 PM
well i tried what little chinese told me. Now i get this messages: not connected to 12V http://shrani.si/f/1z/O/yPPdrZ/untitled.png, connected to car http://shrani.si/f/10/9x/jbshUHr/untitledujjj.png and http://shrani.si/f/47/IX/2mKvI7pS/untitledjjjjjj.png it seems that TEST is ok but anyway i cant do nothing with cable

liviudiaconu
31st July, 2013, 05:52 AM
Broken or wrong dump.

or, although unlikely, FTDI defective, but FT232RL defective occur rarely, FT232Bx defective occur more often

Bllinda
1st August, 2013, 01:27 PM
well i tried what little chinese told me. Now i get this messages: not connected to 12V, conected to car it seems that TEST is ok but anyway i cant do nothing with cable

I think that before it was updating the table apparently. And only later merged with the massive block adaptris went bankrupt

1 6 D
3rd August, 2013, 10:33 AM
Have somebody read dump from chinese 11.11.3 or still nothing?

bat21
3rd August, 2013, 01:45 PM
Yes, it is available

1 6 D
5th August, 2013, 05:06 PM
Will it be possible to share?

BTW There is new Beta 12.10.7

mattydr67
5th August, 2013, 07:08 PM
well i tried what little chinese told me. Now i get this messages: not connected to 12V http://shrani.si/f/1z/O/yPPdrZ/untitled.png, connected to car http://shrani.si/f/10/9x/jbshUHr/untitledujjj.png and http://shrani.si/f/47/IX/2mKvI7pS/untitledjjjjjj.png it seems that TEST is ok but anyway i cant do nothing with cable
Did you tried to change back the computer date?
Good luck

B19hly
9th August, 2013, 09:35 PM
Hi all need some help with my vagcom 805.0 , the cable lets me read controllers separately with out issues , but when I want to do a full scan it does half of it and then throws error up about needing a registered version , it alsp wont let me change any coding now ? the cable was working fine till today , the laptop is not connected to the internet while I use the cable so it has not updated , when I run the test it finds the cable and its says version 1.79 , then I save and go to about and it shows it registered but stops working again ? any help with this? thanks in advance :)

mattydr67
10th August, 2013, 07:16 AM
Well to be sure thta it is still Registred/Aviable which I suppose that it isn't if you have that eror ( maybe -99 )
you ahve to do like this:
Uninstall the VCDS softwear
Reboot
Install the VCDS back
Plug the tool to the USB and plug it to the car
Go to Option and do TEST
See now if it is again Regiistred/Activated in the ABOUT
If it is not then you need to reflash it
Good luck

B19hly
10th August, 2013, 11:38 AM
Thanks for reply natty I will try that today and update you :)

B19hly
11th August, 2013, 03:03 PM
Ok my cable does show up as registered but after opening a few modules it goes back to unregistered and changes from active in the about screen ?

mattydr67
11th August, 2013, 04:24 PM
Mate
Your tool is erased.
You have to reflash it to make it alive back
But you allways have this in mind
In the computer where you use the VCDS softwear do not use intenet connection ever
Or buy a HQ clone which cannot be erased ever even you have the internet connection turned On in the same time that you do a diagnostic in your car
Good luck

B19hly
11th August, 2013, 04:55 PM
Some times the cable works fine , I have not had laptop connected to Internet while using vcds , heard people say it has some thing to do with the D1 D2 D3 files in vcds directory?

mattydr67
11th August, 2013, 05:13 PM
May you share two pics of your both sides of your tool?
yes you can erase the d1,d2,d3 before starting the VCDS softwear but this will not solve your issue
Well as I told you the internet connection must be OFF all the time not just when you use the VCDS softwear in a car
All the time becasue when you have the internet connection ON the VCDS softwear even you do not use it, it connect to the ross-tech server and if the serial of your tool it is recognozed as blacklisted then they will erase your tool.
And eraseing d1,d2,d3 or using firewall or any other solution like will not help you much
Your tool it is allready erased and the only solution to make it full activated again is to flash it
If you'll use a dump which can be get for free then will solve the problem for the moment but if you'll use the internet connection in your computer then you'll need to reflash it all the time
Good luck

B19hly
11th August, 2013, 06:28 PM
I will add some pictures ! Thanks matt

B19hly
11th August, 2013, 07:19 PM
Here is the other side

mattydr67
11th August, 2013, 08:04 PM
Well mate you have a good hardwear tool 9 not a HQ clone but good enoght )
What can say ti you is that you need to reflash it.
You cannot make it works well before you reflash it or if you buy another one
Good luck

B19hly
11th August, 2013, 09:54 PM
how do I reflash it mate? do I need to solder wires or will a program reflash it for me? thanks for your help mate :)

mattydr67
12th August, 2013, 05:42 AM
yes mate
All you need you can find in this thread
dumps, tutorial
The rest you need to buy:
External programmer for Atmega, Hot Air rewark station, Soldering station
You need also a power supply ( 12V )
And of course you must have skills in this
Good luck

liviudiaconu
12th August, 2013, 05:56 AM
Must unsolder few components, solder few wires and use a programmer. If you read this topic you'll find.

B19hly
12th August, 2013, 11:59 AM
I am not good at soldering so I think I will just buy a new cable !! Thanks for all your help Matty I really do appreciate it !!

mattydr67
12th August, 2013, 01:28 PM
Mate if you'll buy same cable from same chinse guys you'll have same problem as well
And the story will keep going.
You'll spend a lot of money on tools and you'll make maybe few diagnostic in your care.
In the end you'll see that it is better to go to a specializd garage or to buy a HQ clone ( more money ) but this will cannot be erased ever
It is your choice
Good luck

B19hly
12th August, 2013, 01:36 PM
I am gonna take the wifi card out of laptop and format it , then start fresh with new cable and no Internet connection at all with the laptop :)

mattydr67
12th August, 2013, 01:59 PM
Good choice
Good luck

B19hly
12th August, 2013, 03:51 PM
Good choice
Good luck

MI have found another cable it's ?54 , he says it has a FT232bl chip inside it , is that the one I need ?

alexm1
12th August, 2013, 05:50 PM
Hi, ca anyone help with some answers :
1. Dump to reflash atmega for a cable with BL/BM is the same with dump used to reflah Atmega for a RL cable?
2. Ept file,for FTDI-BM/BL, from vcds 11.11 can be used with 11.11.5 ?
3. I post a printscreen, those security and configuration bits allows me to read dump from Atmega and to use that dump for reflash?
Thanks.

mattydr67
12th August, 2013, 06:59 PM
Mate
First of all the security bits are for writing the MCu not for reading
For reading you don;t need to set the seurity bits
Just reading
The dump from VCDS 11.11.0 will not work with VCDS 11.11.5 just if you erase that serial from blacklist
Good luck

liviudiaconu
13th August, 2013, 06:30 AM
Matty, edit your post: "dump from 11.11.ZERO will not WORK with 11.11.5"...
You're inloved?

For reading just read, but only if security/lock bits at wrote permit that.

teerak2uk
13th August, 2013, 07:35 AM
MI have found another cable it's ?54 , he says it has a FT232bl chip inside it , is that the one I need ?

For that price you can buy one that's won't erase when connected to the internet

B19hly
13th August, 2013, 10:54 AM
For that price you can buy one that's won't erase when connected to the internet


Were can I order one mate ? Can you pm me a link please :)

alexm1
13th August, 2013, 11:03 AM
[QUOTE=liviudiaconu;205..

For reading just read, but only if security/lock bits at wrote permit that.[/QUOTE]

Well that is what I want to know , if the security/ lock bits sets like in the picture of my previous post give me the posibility to read corectly dump from Atmega?

liviudiaconu
13th August, 2013, 01:35 PM
Mister,
The fusebits and security bits are setting when someone WRITE in atmega.
If that person set like in your picture, cannot read content.
You'll read something but not real content.

alexm1
13th August, 2013, 06:59 PM
Mister,
The fusebits and security bits are setting when someone WRITE in atmega.
If that person set like in your picture, cannot read content.
You'll read something but not real content.

I was not clear enough in previous post and I apologize for that.....
I know that the bits are set when you write in atmega... that s perfectly cear; all I want to know was if the dump secured with that bits(like in the picture), after reading can be used for another cable, now I know .... .

Thank you !

mattydr67
13th August, 2013, 08:07 PM
Mate no need to apologieze for this
You asked but it was a littel bit confuse
My frined liviudiaconu figure it out better then me ( for instance ) what do you wanna mean.
What shall I wanna tell is that you'll haven't find any tool without security bts set like this
So you cannot find tool that you can read and extract dump like this
There's other solutions for this if you have in mind this
Good luck

liviudiaconu
14th August, 2013, 06:19 AM
I think he want write tools...but, maybe he dream to find a cable unprotected...for extract dump

alexm1
14th August, 2013, 08:37 AM
The " story" is this: I have a cable VCDS 11.11.0( BL), brought 8 mounts ago; now a fried got a cable 11.11.5 , after a few days , the cable was detected by laptop as a " malfunction device....." . Problem was solved by changing usb cable. After, I was curios if i can read dump .... and asked for your help.

liviudiaconu
14th August, 2013, 11:23 AM
A, you called me. And i told you exactly the same think.
Maybe my answer was not good enough for you.

alexm1
14th August, 2013, 12:27 PM
A, you called me. And i told you exactly the same think.
Maybe my answer was not good enough for you.

I apreciate your answer, never doubt about it, but we must clarified this:
I never ask no one by phone about this, definetily is a confusion.

liviudiaconu
14th August, 2013, 12:47 PM
Strange, one member of dk called me and ask me exactly the same.

carbandit
15th August, 2013, 09:49 AM
hello guys got a china clone vcds 908 now its working ok but very old sw 3-4 years ..it has ft232rl and atmega 162 can i do a update to newer sw ?? i have a upa-usb and have read a lot of posts here but im not too sure and even through its old sw is it worth doing ...

hunterirc
15th August, 2013, 11:59 AM
Hello everyone,

I just bought an interface from China and it is not working. From the sellers description it should be version 12.10.
It came with its own software on a cd. the problem is that when i give Test command i get Port Status: OK, Interface: Not found!. (the led will not blink).
Doing some search on the forum i ended up here.

In the device manager i can see the interface as: "Ross-Tech Direct USB Interface" with "USB\VID_0403&PID_FA24&REV_0600". (FDTI 232 RL)

The eeprom content that can be read using Mprog looks like this:

0000 : 00 40 03 04 24 FA 00 00 80 19 08 00 00 00 98 14 @. .. .. .. .. .. .. ..
0010 : AC 24 D0 12 23 10 05 00 14 03 52 00 6F 00 73 00 .. .. .. .. .. .R .o .s
0020 : 73 00 2D 00 54 00 65 00 63 00 68 00 24 03 52 00 .s .. .T .e .c .h .. .R
0030 : 6F 00 73 00 73 00 2D 00 54 00 65 00 63 00 68 00 .o .s .s .. .T .e .c .h
0040 : 20 00 48 00 45 00 58 00 2D 00 55 00 53 00 42 00 .. .H .E .X .. .U .S .B
0050 : 12 03 52 00 54 00 57 00 4E 00 59 00 42 00 45 00 .. .R .T .W .N .Y .B .E
0060 : 46 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .F .. .. .. .. .. .. ..
0070 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 B3 .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .p
0080 : 4E 04 B1 FB 00 00 CD 1E 88 90 42 00 00 00 00 00 .N .. .. .. .. .B .. ..
0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 39 41 30 56 4D 39 4A 43 .. .. .. .. A9 V0 9M CJ


Now my problem is that i don`t know if the interface is software or hardware damaged. Can anyone suggest which my next step should be?

Thank you !

mattydr67
15th August, 2013, 12:08 PM
Plug the interface to the car and then do a TEST
What version of softwera it is 12.10.3?
Good luck

hunterirc
15th August, 2013, 03:11 PM
Thank you for the replay.

I tried to do a test with the interface plugged in the car, but got the same result. With the mention that when i plug the interface the led stays lit green , and when i click test, it goes a few times red.
Yes, the sw version is 12.10.3.

Any idea on how to proceed ? Thanks !

mattydr67
15th August, 2013, 03:27 PM
You did it in right way
Interface plugged to the car and plugged to the USB
Then run the VCDS softwear go to OPTION the TEST
Now pleas make a PrtSc to see what the message you have there.
And after all of this what do you have in the ABOUT ( Unrestred/Unactivated or Not Tested or somethingelse? )
As I know that sh..t chinese clone with VCDS 12.10.3 works with tools with VID/PID 0403/FA30 but maybe yours it is different
Good luck

P.S. - All PrtSc you can provide us are wellcome ( PCB both sides PrtSc and outside tool PrtSc, etc )

hunterirc
15th August, 2013, 08:06 PM
I`ve attached some pictures with the interface and software.

Also, i tried to change the PID to FA30, but no luck, i get the same result.

mattydr67
15th August, 2013, 08:37 PM
Well you can do one thing more
Take a look at the date when this softwear was released.
And change the computer date and try again
The date must be with one day after the release date ( not before )
If this will not work that I will be 100% sure that the Atmega has not the proper dump flashed for this moded Chinese softwear.
I hope to changind dat to solve your problem otherwise you have 3 choices
1. buy another chinese too and pray to have luck to not get same "BAD" tool
2. flash your tool with a proper dump and use a loader ( becasue your tool is RL and you need this - for instance use VCDS 11.11.0 dump and loader )
3. buy a HQ clone that cannot be erased ever and you'll have no problem at all with the tool ( but the price it is a littel bit higher then chines tool price )
But do what i told you first then you'll see
Good luck

hunterirc
16th August, 2013, 08:57 PM
First of all, big thanks to Mattydr67.

Lucky me, the interface hardware/firmware was ok so it was only a software problem.
In order to fix the Interface Not Found error i had to:

1. Set the computer date to a few days after the software release. (see data release on the top of the About page in VDCS).
2. Disable antivirus completely.
3. Uncheck the Read-Only option for the following files: codes.dat VCDS.CFG VCDS.EXE.
4. Run VDCS.EXE as Administrator.

Good Luck !

mattydr67
16th August, 2013, 09:27 PM
Now to be more sure and to keep your tool alive
Do not use the run-as-data and only change the computer date
Do not use a firewall
This both firewall and run-as-data can do a bad diagnostic in a car
And do not use the internet connection in thqat computer anymore ) not just during the diagnostic session )
This is the very importan thing that you have to know when you use a chinese tool with a chinese mode softwear.
This one cannot protect you against the internet...never
This ca erase your licence from your tool and your tool will become Unregistred
Happy that you fixed your tool
Good luck

qweqweqweqwe
20th August, 2013, 05:34 PM
Today I've bought a VCDS 12.10.3 but is different from others. Where is the regulator? If in the future becomes "unregistered" how I can re-write it?

I have: FT232RL , but I don't know if i have ATMEGA or not. Please help me!

mattydr67
20th August, 2013, 05:56 PM
I belive that have no luck mate
You bought one big sh..t tool that I ever seen.
No mention this that it is a tool wihout GAl/ATF that means taht you not have full coverage but I suppos ethat the chinese made a new chip tochange the Atmega.
As the tools with NEC this for this you cannot get dumps for sure. So no dump no reflash.
In this case if the tool will become Unregistred then the only way you have to do it is to throw it to the garbage.
Take care what you buy becasue chip price means sh...t tools
And take care and do not use the internet connection ever in the compuetr where you have installed that VCDS softwear not just during a diagnostic session.
If you'll use the internet connection in that computer means that you must to prepare money to buy a new tool.
I hope you understand what I mean.
Good luck

colouny
21st August, 2013, 06:46 PM
Today I've bought a VCDS 12.10.3 but is different from others. Where is the regulator? If in the future becomes "unregistered" how I can re-write it?

I have: FT232RL , but I don't know if i have ATMEGA or not. Please help me!

I have got the same tool... I am desperate, it will never work on XP as it has FA30 PID, and it is not possible to install drivers, if i modify the RT-USB.inf i get the hardware installed, but it still does not work, i get the same vcds error as hunterirc (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/54551-hunterirc/)
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Is the a way to fix it? i mean for this to be a decent tool?

And please recommend me a seller that sells good clone... Thanks in advance.

willy789
21st August, 2013, 07:47 PM
Its been a few years i think since i last read this thread.Seems a lot of people are needing to re-flash there atmel because they try a newer version of VCDS. I am sure ross-tech reads this thread an looks for any new serial#'s so that there next release will have that serial# banned.

Do Not update your software unless you have a working flash for it 1st an then flash atmel before you update software.Makes life a lot easier. In the software they have a scrambled list of banned serial#'s.If your # matches any it will start a count down in the atmel eeprom that when hits 0 it will rewrite an put disable code into it,etc.That's why some people can update an run VCDS for only a very short time.

Also,why isn't anyone chatting about how to ha_k the software.Its not real hard IMO.
Or is that not allowed on this site ???

willy789 looking for old friend DMC

leader79
23rd August, 2013, 07:50 AM
Its been a few years i think since i last read this thread.Seems a lot of people are needing to re-flash there atmel because they try a newer version of VCDS. I am sure ross-tech reads this thread an looks for any new serial#'s so that there next release will have that serial# banned.

Do Not update your software unless you have a working flash for it 1st an then flash atmel before you update software.Makes life a lot easier. In the software they have a scrambled list of banned serial#'s.If your # matches any it will start a count down in the atmel eeprom that when hits 0 it will rewrite an put disable code into it,etc.That's why some people can update an run VCDS for only a very short time.

Also,why isn't anyone chatting about how to ha_k the software.Its not real hard IMO.
Or is that not allowed on this site ???

willy789 looking for old friend DMC

What you mean by hack? For example: 0x77?39?1b ? :joyous:
I hope there is some people who knows what about I talking...

Is better to keep this secrets in private if we want long running support for this cable.

Best Regards
leader

willy789
24th August, 2013, 04:29 AM
Ya,you may be very right,one of the reasons i have not talked about it since i joined.I do know how to make any banned eeprom appear unbanned by modifying the program.But you may have other methods for your work around.

alexm1
27th August, 2013, 10:27 AM
HI,
can I upgrade a functionable RL cable (now using vcds11.2) without reprograming ATF/GAL?

liviudiaconu
28th August, 2013, 05:51 AM
Preserving all functions, no.
If you want to have all functions must reprogramm GAL/ATF and reroute 3 routes.
Must reflash Atmega, too and use proper soft.

max4ever
28th August, 2013, 05:55 PM
can I upgrade a functionable RL cable Why not try version 12.03. If your interface is functional should work!

mattydr67
28th August, 2013, 08:06 PM
If he has an interface running 11.2 for sure will not work with a higher version then 11.2 maybe with a previos version ( Only a moded 11.3 works with that dump )
Much more then this newer versions then 11.11.0 will use its own serial and it will not works with other dump. Only with its own serial
Try and see
Good luck
P.S. - serials till 11.11.0 was extracted from old version of VCDS tool. After this all serials are extracted from newer version of VCDS where the Atmega dump it is mariaged with the FTDI ID

alexm1
28th August, 2013, 08:31 PM
Why not try version 12.03. If your interface is functional should work!

First of all it is free dump for 12.03 here on the forum? Someone share some dump for 12.10.3 but no one confirm if realy works.

And second one your advice it is totally different from liviudiaconu's ...

L.E.-meanwhile mattydr67 post it, now it is clear.

willy789
28th August, 2013, 08:50 PM
HI, can I upgrade a functionable RL cable (now using vcds11.2) without reprograming ATF/GAL? I you want an unfunctional cable go ahead.But you better be able to reprogram everything back after you try. Also why use a beta version ? Does it have something you really need ?
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Willy789 looking for DMC

oh,just checked the beta 12.10.7 an the serial #0F2A9D716h is banned in it.
an also banned in 11.11.06 so i would think the 12.10.3 has it banned ,so that
dump here of it will not work.

mattydr67
28th August, 2013, 09:21 PM
@alexm1
That dump for 12.10.3 was shared here in the forum as I remember
But it is for just one kind of tool ( as the one who shared the dump said )
This tools it is that chinese sh..t tool without GAL/ATF
The dump it is mariagged with its STC. So if you have other kind of tool even you reflash it with this dump, the tool need the STC to work. And no any STC, it need the one allready flashed for that version...12.10.3
So alex don't waist your time with this chinese sh..t VCDS 12.10.3
Because first of all it is a Beta version and it is full of bugs and not stable for sure ( Me I didn't use the Beta versions anymore )
So if you want to flash your tool with a new free dump then try with VCDS 11.11.0 dump and you can find also the Loader for it.
My advise it is to disable for ever the internet connection in the computer that you use the VCDS or creat another partition without internet
And when you need to use your tool then boot in that partition for VCDS
in the other partition u can use it everyday but no VCDS on it.
Or buy a tool that cannot be erased by the internet ( a HQ clone ) and you'll have no problems with the tool. It will cannot be erased ever ( dosen't matter when you use the internet connection - you can use it durring the diagnostic session too )
And you can get newer versions.
Of course this solution it is a littel bit expencive then the chinese one
Good luck
P.S. - as liviudiaconu told you you need to make some change in the PCB and reflash GAL/ATF if you need to have a good RL flashed tool
About Chinese softwears. This one cannot protect you against the ross-tech servers - so your tool can be erased

tazman13
30th August, 2013, 09:27 PM
I have been using a modded cable with a 11.2 loader with no issues but today it was killed. I have taken the PC date back to August 2011, have RT found a way to kill all cables?

I have never had any issues using an internet connected PC.

willy789
31st August, 2013, 01:06 AM
I have been using a modded cable with a 11.2 loader with no issues but today it was killed. I have taken the PC date back to August 2011, have RT found a way to kill all cables?

I have never had any issues using an internet connected PC.


Why do you think the program phones home ? .Its just another security feature they use.Its phones home to check if your serial # is in the ban list.That is why everyone says never allow it to connect to internet .Now you need to reprogram the cable
an stop the program from using the internet.Ie Your serial # is banned on the net.It probably isn't banned in an earlier version of VCDS so will work as long as it doesn't connect to the net. It may have just been added to the internet ban list,that is why it may have worked before but doesn't work now if connected to the net.
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elremont
1st September, 2013, 07:44 PM
Hi all,need help with cable super 812.4,missing components.quartz X1 IC5 IC2 and T5

Thanks

magadan
1st September, 2013, 09:46 PM
Hi all,need help with cable super 812.4,missing components.quartz X1 IC5 IC2 and T5

Thanks
IC2 = 93C46
IC8 = delete
T5 = delete
X1 = 16 MHz
IC5 = TJA1050, PCA82C250, SI9200EY, MCP2551 .... etc
Reprog Atmega162, FT232B.

elremont
2nd September, 2013, 05:25 AM
IC2 = 93C46
IC8 = delete
T5 = delete
X1 = 16 MHz
IC5 = TJA1050, PCA82C250, SI9200EY, MCP2551 .... etc
Reprog Atmega162, FT232B.



where to find dump for atmega 162 and 93c46?

P.S before so T5 was

chip FT232BL

xiaomi2s
2nd September, 2013, 07:27 AM
I think that here peoples have more tolerance:)

magadan
2nd September, 2013, 09:42 AM
where to find dump for atmega 162 and 93c46?
Read this thread. And search for at this forum.


I think that here peoples have more tolerance:)
FAQ should make on a thread. Can identical questions will less.

elremont
2nd September, 2013, 10:04 AM
I read,but not find :(

magadan
2nd September, 2013, 11:01 AM
I read,but not find :(
Read attentively all thread. begin with the first page. Then you will set less questions.
(For example the dump for a chip atmega162 lies between 210 and 230 pages.:help:) It isn't necessary to be lazy.
In this thread there is everything that is necessary for cable repair.

elremont
2nd September, 2013, 11:39 AM
results not found about 812.4

magadan
2nd September, 2013, 01:11 PM
results not found about 812.4
Dump "atmega 11.11.0" work with program vagcom704 - vcds11.11.0. (with vcds812.4 work too).
Dump "atmega 812.4" work with program vagcom704 - vcds812.4.

mattydr67
2nd September, 2013, 01:12 PM
812.4 dump you don't find but you can find newer dump then yours and you'll be happy to have a new version of VCDS working with your tool
Good luck

elremont
2nd September, 2013, 01:36 PM
812.4 dump you don't find but you can find newer dump then yours and you'll be happy to have a new version of VCDS working with your tool
Good luck

I can upgrade 812.4 to e.g. 908?
why the need to remove IC8 and T5????

mattydr67
2nd September, 2013, 02:21 PM
Because that one it is a protection and if you'll not unsolder that components you'll not be able to flash the Atmega
You can also to upgrade to VCDS 11.11.0 as Mr. Magadan told you
Good luck

P.S. - if your tool it is identical with that one. It is not necessary to remove component in all kind of tools.
To be sure please share two pics of both sides of your PCB an dwe will tell you then what you need to unsolder or not

elremont
2nd September, 2013, 02:41 PM
here photo

when atmega reflash,so IC8 solder back???

P.S 812.4 is china

magadan
2nd September, 2013, 03:27 PM
here photo

when atmega reflash,so IC8 solder back???

P.S 812.4 is china
IC8 reprogram FT232B.
If you want to change FT232B contents, IC8 (chip protect) will reprogram this chip FT232B back.
To delete or leave? You decide. (If you leave, that to solder T5)

mattydr67
2nd September, 2013, 03:28 PM
Mate
Sorry I cannot open any of your archive ( even I'm using winrar and 7zip )
But the IC8 it is the STC
Do not solder it back any do not solder back any components that you allready unsoldered
Good luck

elremont
2nd September, 2013, 03:55 PM
what version recommended for me cable?which is the best?

mattydr67
2nd September, 2013, 04:19 PM
The last the best will said one of us
I advise to you to use VCDS 10.6.4
VCDS 11.11.0 has too many bugs in my opinion bun not such bad as other versions
Use the release versions not betas
Good luck

elremont
2nd September, 2013, 07:04 PM
I have new problem,today received new vag-com 12.10 from china,and cable not working.

mattydr67
2nd September, 2013, 07:28 PM
Mate
As i see you buying all that chinese sh..ts and you'll spend a lot of money on item and in the end you have no good working tool
That chinese tool must works if you change the computer date at least one day after VCDS softwear version releas.
Good luck

elremont
2nd September, 2013, 07:42 PM
Yes,I change system date and all ok

liviudiaconu
3rd September, 2013, 06:07 AM
I can't open any archive from DK..

elremont
3rd September, 2013, 07:28 AM
what is DK?

paro44
3rd September, 2013, 08:07 AM
what is DK?

The forum you are visiting... Digital-Kaos

1 6 D
3rd September, 2013, 08:12 PM
I have seen one problem with VCDS Beta 11.3. For a few days I read on some forums, that this version don't work if date is after 31 August 2013. I have seen at least 5-10 situations now.

mattydr67
3rd September, 2013, 09:15 PM
All Betas version have a limit date
So 11.3 it is a Beta and it has that limit
I had in the past a version of VCDS 1.3 moded that works with 11.2 dump and has no date limit
But I'm very sure that I erase from my HDD long time ago
Good luck

1 6 D
4th September, 2013, 01:50 PM
Probably this moded 11.3 Beta have build-in runasdate which is set to back time for about 2 years.

mattydr67
4th September, 2013, 05:22 PM
No need this mate
Only you have to do it is to disable that date limit
You can disable aslo the message when a new version it is released
Good luck

elremont
8th September, 2013, 05:03 PM
or I can read atmega and eeprom from 12.10 cable,and write dumps to 812.4 cable? 812.4 updated up to 12.10?

mattydr67
8th September, 2013, 05:15 PM
Mate you need dump to flash Atmega but you cannot read it becasue it is protected
( I mean you cannot read it using a programmer )
Good luck

elremont
8th September, 2013, 05:27 PM
i read Thread but not found 10.6.4 version for atmega and eeprom :(

max4ever
9th September, 2013, 10:03 AM
Have all are you need!

1 6 D
9th September, 2013, 11:04 AM
What is the newest working solution for all RL tools without STC too?

11.11.0 dump with loader(plus GAL remove)? Or somebody have method to run this 12.10.3 dump:
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/vag-com-vcds-everything-99750/index255.html#post2010323

Maybe last 12.10.3 dump is only to repair 12.10.3 clones or for RL with STC only?


Strange thing is that nobody have decoded dump from 11.11.3 RL which doesn't have STC chip and have ATF, not GAL. I send to one person some sniffed data from it and still there is no news for about half year :(

elremont
9th September, 2013, 02:58 PM
Have all are you need!

FTDI232 eeprom write to 93c46 with programmer?

GAL16V8 need or not need reprogram?

atmega162 fuse bits?

mattydr67
9th September, 2013, 03:05 PM
93Cxx can be flashed by external programmer or you can use ept file with MProg to flash the FTDI ( same thing )
GAL16V8 need to be flashed if you have a RL tool
Good luck

elremont
9th September, 2013, 03:56 PM
to me FT232BL so not need reprog GAL16V8??

maybe you have 93c46 bin file?

mattydr67
9th September, 2013, 05:12 PM
If you have FTDI BL you can flash it by MProg using ept file
No need the dump for 93Cxx.
Only if you want to unsoder it and flash it with external programmer.
Good luck

elremont
9th September, 2013, 05:29 PM
maybe you have fuse bits for atmega on ponyprog?

mattydr67
9th September, 2013, 05:42 PM
I'm very sure that this fuse bits settinf for PonyProg was allready shared in the forum.
I have no time now to find item but if anyone do not shared for you in the mean time then tomorrow I will shared here
Good luck

elremont
9th September, 2013, 06:47 PM
good or not?

P.S somebody not good with 10.6

magadan
9th September, 2013, 07:47 PM
good or not?
Here fuses from an original cable on FT232B chip.

You can use the your fuses also.


I'm very sure that this fuse bits settinf for PonyProg was allready shared in the forum.
I have no time now to find item but if anyone do not shared for you in the mean time then tomorrow I will shared here
Good luck
I am surprised, that you are very patient person.

mattydr67
9th September, 2013, 08:11 PM
Surprised ...why.
Do you know me as I am diffrent kind of guy?
Regards my frinend
Good luck

elremont
9th September, 2013, 08:36 PM
somebody not good

mattydr67
9th September, 2013, 08:55 PM
Sorry mate
But I told you before I cannot open up your archive and I'm not the only one
Maybe someone else will can , me I cannot
Good luck

cniky
9th September, 2013, 09:00 PM
@elremont (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/330960-elremont/)

Pictures of your board ?

magadan
10th September, 2013, 12:23 AM
Sorry mate
But I told you before I cannot open up your archive and I'm not the only one
Maybe someone else will can , me I cannot
Good luck
I downloaded with Opera browser. Windows IExplorer not download correctly.