VAG-COM/VCDS EVERYTHING

[Aucor]

Hmm, that's interesting. R 0 $$ website states 18.5-7 betas are not working with our older interfaces.543019

[kaalis]

18.7.0 beta with latest loader.



Port status: ok
Legacy interfaces such as your
"Ross-Tech Hex-Usb"
Are not supported by this beta build;
Hex-net or Hex-V2 required.

Legacy interfaces will be supported again in Release versions.

Simple as that...

[sraj]

this is a new reworked Chinese loader ver 1.12 needs activation the Chinese claim it works with beta version, will have to crack this loader and see if it works. it works flawlessely with ver 18.2 it is not kolimer loader I myself have tried with 18.2, but not version 18.5 beta also the bootloader in the cable is different. it accepts only loader from Chinese ver 1.12

regads
sraj

[sraj]

http://www.obd2tuner.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=2119

[hid3]

Out of curiousity, what you guys expect to find in the 18.5/1.7 beta versions? What gains do you want?

[kaalis]

... and there is no label file changes between 18.2.1 un 18.7 english versions.

[hid3]

Labels is old school and for older cars.
Now they use .RODs :)

[dj2d]

new version 18.5 beta works with chinese loader 1.12 version, but need activation from the buyer. anyone have vcds loader 1.12 crack or activator ?

regards
sraj

I may can activate it. Send me the request licence by PM

[fcarocha]

I have version 17.8. someone can make the software available. I already used several versions, but I could not get it to work.

[evobag]

Hello

please activate my vcds 18.2.1 french

thanks

[dj2d]

Hello

please activate my vcds 18.2.1 french

thanks

Send it by PM please, I can't download it I don't know why ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Roma77]

Hi, did someone sew such a model of a lace? Now the firmware is 12.12. I want to update to 17.8.1.
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[jan4]

the pictures are too small te idfentify the components .

verify if the processor is an atmega 162 , and if the gal is present .

then control the tracks from processor to gal to see which version you have.


all info is in kolimers zip file on this forum.

[kashelis]

hi, where can I find kolimer (v6.3 loader )?

[Randex]

hi, where can I find kolimer (v6.3 loader )?


here is kolimer loader

[dj2d]

I sent you the activated licence, check your PMs

[malar67]

So does

Loader:
http://ge.tt/7zLlAZo2
https://www.sendspace.com/file/1k82p4
and
File Type: zip kolimer loader.zip (2.31 MB, 27 views)

have Virus in them? Windows 10 seems to think they includes

Trojan:Win32/Bitrep.A Virus, Uninstall Trojan:Win32/Bitrep.A
What Is Trojan:Win32/Bitrep.A
Trojan:Win32/Bitrep.A is a highly malicious auto-exutable Trojan virus created by vicious cyber criminals. With the ability to install itself automatically in compromised PC it is very hard to detect or remove this notorious infection. It usually sneak in targeted computer by stealth and quickly disable all you security measures in order to hide itself easily in compromised computer. According to cyber security experts, Trojan:Win32/Bitrep.A is a very harmful PC threat which belongs to Trojan horse category. It mostly targets Windows OS based computers. It is such a risky threat which connect your system with remote server and allows the hackers to access your entire PC remotely.

So is it safe?

[AliYO]

Hello
I've been reading this topic for some time, but I've had a break for several years. We used to have a similar thread in another forum, but when there was too much information there, the whole topic was deleted. I return to the analysis of the program and I am looking for people with RE experience in order to exchange information. I finished the analysis of program on generating serial and assigning it to FT, but I miss the RSA private key. If anyone wants to share knowledge about RSA, I will reciprocate the same.

[guyguy307]

Hello for 18.7 kolimer loader work?? Or only chins 1.2 loader ? Thks

[kaalis]

If you have original V2 or NET hardware, you can test the loader but it will not have atmega162 chip.

[ericas]

Hello guys. I have flashed about 10 VCDS (15.7 RED PCB, 12.12 GREEN and 17.0, 17.8) with kolimers v4 and v5 loader, everything was fine. But now i am stuck. I don't know why but last 3 VCDS clone 17.8.1 i cant reflash with USBasp - when i first time conected i can read chip, i add PROJECT from v5 and PRESS AUTO. Atmega starting programming but after about 10 s i geting error (somthing about can't verify flash or...), and i am try second time with project from v4 - this same problem. After 3-4 times programming i getting another ERROR - CANT ENABLE CHIP. And no more cant read ATMEGA. I have 3 same interfaces now with same problem.
544378544377

[alexm1]

Your pics are not clear, try to atach again at full resolution

[ericas]

Your pics are not clear, try to atach again at full resolution

i have added another

[alexm1]

Try again with usbasp, check again mosi miso sck reset conection, power 12v via obd2 ,ground to usbasp too.
Use 0x44 dump.

[sraj]

please someone activate this loader chinese ver 1.12 18.2 english version

[sraj]

Hello for 18.7 kolimer loader work?? Or only chins 1.2 loader ? Thks

only chinese loader 1.12 works flawlessly without any glitches all my friends use them

regards
sraj

[dj2d]

please someone activate this loader chinese ver 1.12 18.2 english version

Here you are

[ericas]

Try again with usbasp, check again mosi miso sck reset conection, power 12v via obd2 ,ground to usbasp too.
Use 0x44 dump.


Nop, not working... i have tried anything...

[HotSwap]

Hello Guys, I'm new to this.
I have 18.2.1 VCDS with V5 loader and cable test ok.
My questions: where can I download kolimer 6.3 loader and do I need to flash cable firmware if it test ok with the software?

I was trying to modify some long codes for my A3 8v and software gave me error out of something....

Appreciate any help.

[kaalis]

18.2.1 english? It will not work with 6.3or older loader.

[HotSwap]

yes 18.2.1 English. What loader should I use in order for it to work?

[jan4]

18.2.1 does not work with any loader !!
Go back to version 18.2.0 , same fuctions and that works with 6.3

[obd2cartool]

Hi, 1.12 loader can not work beta 18.5-18.7, these two version work for NXT and V2

[dj2d]

18.2.1 does not work with any loader !!
Go back to version 18.2.0 , same fuctions and that works with 6.3

It works with chinese loader but not Kolimer's one

[jan4]

Chinese loader without activation ??

Pleas give more info

[zapdus]

Hey, I have read all this thread

I had about 10 non-working cables, now I have around 3 only
@hid3 helped me a lot as he has a lot of knowledge on this
One of them I connected power wrongly, other should be like fuses problems or else
Always the same thing, check if your cable was programming pads for ATMEGA pins
If not, just solder 3 wire to MPC and 1 wire to reset pin ATMEGA
If you have programming pads just connect wires with female jumpers and USBASP

[HotSwap]

Can someone please point me to kolimer's loader 6.3?
can't find it in the post

[Mario6]

HotSwap (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/582182-HotSwap)

Loader V 6.3 is on page 389 in post 5823.

[HotSwap]

HotSwap (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/582182-HotSwap)

Loader V 6.3 is on page 389 in post 5823.

Thanks a lot

[HotSwap]

Sure, but 18.2.0 is not available to download anymore. Any suggestions?

[Mario6]

HotSwap (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/582182-HotSwap)

Page 424 post 6346

VCDS 18.1 ENG (http://vcds.su/system/storage/download/VCDS-Release-18.1.0-Installer.rar)

VCDS 18.2 ENG (http://vcds.su/system/storage/download/VCDS-Release-18.2.0-Installer.rar)


Release 18.2.1
http://dltemp.ross-tech.com/VCDS/dow...-Installer.exe (http://dltemp.ross-tech.com/VCDS/download/I01furG/VCDS-Release-18.2.1-Installer.exe)

Beta 18.5.0
htt (http://dltemp.ross-tech.com/VCDS/download/A840/VCDS-Beta-18.5.0-Installer.exe)

[HotSwap]

HotSwap (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/582182-HotSwap)

Page 424 post 6346

VCDS 18.1 ENG (http://vcds.su/system/storage/download/VCDS-Release-18.1.0-Installer.rar)

VCDS 18.2 ENG (http://vcds.su/system/storage/download/VCDS-Release-18.2.0-Installer.rar)


Release 18.2.1
http://dltemp.ross-tech.com/VCDS/dow...-Installer.exe (http://dltemp.ross-tech.com/VCDS/download/I01furG/VCDS-Release-18.2.1-Installer.exe)

Beta 18.5.0
htt (http://dltemp.ross-tech.com/VCDS/download/A840/VCDS-Beta-18.5.0-Installer.exe)

Thanks :peaceful:

[zapdus]

Sure, but 18.2.0 is not available to download anymore. Any suggestions?

Hey, I used fantomel links all ok

EDIT: sorry didnt see your posts @Mario6

[rak183]

Good morning,
I got an updatble clone from bulgaria. It has atmega chip like interface from obd2cartool. I wont to read atmega from bg clone an write it to obd2cartool interface. How i can do this? Thanks for any answer.

[alexm1]

If you are asking this...you ca not read; actually you can read atmega but what you get it is encrypted dump and will not work to be writen on another cable, unless the cable you have has an unprotected Atmega.

[rak183]

How i can check it atmega encrypted? I have usb asp.

[alexm1]

Read and than write what you get to another cable, if it works .....your are lucky
Use usbasp to read

[rak183]

Ok. I will try it an Report.

[rak183]

Chip is locked. I cant change back the product id to f24. I used mprog with ept flash in colimer but it still 6001. Any idea?545370

[alexm1]

Now You talk about FTDI?
If so check if it is detected in Dev. Manager and try other vers of Mprog

[rak183]

Now You talk about FTDI?
If so check if it is detected in Dev. Manager and try other vers of Mprog

Yes i mean ftdi. Ok i try and report.

[rak183]

Yes i mean ftdi. Ok i try and report.

I used the new mprog. I wrongly flashed 0f24. Know the interface is not more detected with mprog. Is there any oder possibility to change the product id? 545399

[xoom]

I used the new mprog. I wrongly flashed 0f24. Know the interface is not more detected with mprog. Is there any oder possibility to change the product id? 545399


Use UDFixer.. it was made somewhere here :) or manualy change drivers VID/PID

[liviudiaconu]

I used the new mprog. I wrongly flashed 0f24. Know the interface is not more detected with mprog. Is there any oder possibility to change the product id?

Let me understand: YOU wrote bulgarian cable FTDI with another .ept file?
If YES..in this case.."bye-bye" "bulgarian updatable".

[alexm1]

I think (=I hope) is doing experiments on the other cable, that one about he asked for help to make it worked... not the working cable.
Anyway he asked about how to read atmega and he managed to "kill" the RL cip...

[RedNix]

Hello, I have VCDS 18.2 and VCDS loader 1.12, can someone please activate it for me?

Regards

[Mario6]

rak183 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/557994-rak183)

Paste this converted RT USB file into the main vcds folder. Then your cable should be visible in Mprog 3.5. Then if so, program it to the correct EPT
PID FA24.

[rak183]

Hey,


of corse i didnt wrote the bulgarian clone, i just read it. i wrote the Dump in second clone from obd2cartool. But the dump from bulgarian clone is locked. and i wrongly wirte false PID in obd2cartool clone. the second empty clone is not killed its now working after FTDI flash with corect PID.

[liviudiaconu]

As i know, even if you can extract correct eeprom from atmega, the clone will not work. FTDI married with ID

[Phoeny]

So i got this thing in the mail today.

The chips say:
MCP2515
AT6560
FTDI 232RQ
HL 008 802GC 27498055-14 ARM (what is this chip?)

since non of them say AT162 i belive this thing is trash? It came bundled with kolimers loader.

[alexm1]

If it works, be happy and leave it as it is...no solution for ARM cip...and thats the chinese plan, sell more because can not be repaired /updated.

[Phoeny]

Well, it says it is unlicenced and it cant connect to my Audi B4 but that could be because i have a problematic car to connect to.

So anyway, i want to buy the correct cable, I looked at obd2cartool.com but there are so many of them which strangely all have the same description but different prices.
Are there any hardware differences or is it all firmware?

I mean what is the difference between this one 42$ (https://www.obd2cartool.com/vagcom-1821-hex-can-usb-interface-vcds-1781-online-update-version-16-multilanguage-p-1263?zenid=t0kcdrhlskoaogbrual014p6k1) and this one 48$ (https://www.obd2cartool.com/vag-com-1821-full-active-cable-vagcom-181-multilanguage-update-online-interface-free-shipping-p-1473?zenid=t0kcdrhlskoaogbrual014p6k1) and this one 29$ (https://www.obd2cartool.com/atm-182-vagcom-1820-vcds-full-active-enfrde-vag-hex-can-crack-cable-free-shipping-p-1566?zenid=t0kcdrhlskoaogbrual014p6k1)? The first 2 seem to be the same thing and the 3rd one cant update for some reason but still has AT162

I want to do coding, measuring blocks on older vehicles like my Audi 80 B4 which has K-Line and a Audi A4 B5 which has CAN.

[alexm1]

In my opinion, The one at 29$ is just ok for your needs.

Where did get your cable? Just in case we need buy and from where not to...

[Mario6]

Phoeny (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/559993-Phoeny)



For these two cars you need only a simple vag kkl with ftdi for $ 8-10 and vcds lite 1.2 in the English full version.

[Phoeny]

In my opinion, The one at 29$ is just ok for your needs.


So there is a difference? can you tell me which?


Where did get your cable? Just in case we need buy and from where not to...


i bought it here (https://www.ebay.de/itm/VCDS-Release-18-2-0-VCDS-HEX-CAN-USB-Interface-Car-Diagnostic-Tool-FOR-VW-YOP/263738331089?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649). Probably not the smartest idea to buy from a random ebay seller

[alexm1]

Phoeny (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/559993-Phoeny)



For these two cars you need only a simple vag kkl with ftdi for $ 8-10 and vcds lite 1.2 in the English full version.It is possibke to do coding with vcds lite?!?!? I did not tried...
So there is a difference? can you tell me which?


i bought it here (https://www.ebay.de/itm/VCDS-Release-18-2-0-VCDS-HEX-CAN-USB-Interface-Car-Diagnostic-Tool-FOR-VW-YOP/263738331089?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649). Probably not the smartest idea to buy from a random ebay sellerNobody test all hardware/software from obd2... to see whats the difference .
I just said whats my opinion.
It's important to have a cable with Atmega..after that you migth try reflash with new free stable/working dumps.

[Mario6]

VCDS LIte 1.2 of the full version with vag kkl can do short coding, view the block of measured values, basic settings, adaptations. Audi B4 and audi A4 b5 do not support long coding. I have a vag kkl and hex can. For me, it is better to connect the audi a6 c5 2003y engine with a vag kkl than a hex can. Vag kkl also supports other cars, You can read mileage from EDC 15, read pin immo. e.t.c.

But this topic is about vcds hex can

[alexm1]

....read pin immo....
What sofware did you use for this ?

[kaalis]

First test your cable with A4 B5. And it don't use CAN for diagnostics. Only K1 and K2.
What engine you have in that B4? Let's hope it's not a 2.3 10v or 2.0 16v trash.

[Mario6]

alexm1 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/362619-alexm1)

vag k can commander 1.4 or 2.5 and vag eepromprogrammer 1.19g. (tested on audi a6c5 2003y 2.5 tdi VDO, audi a4 1.8 t 97y 125 ps, pasat b5 ,b5 fl 1.9 tdi VP and PD VDO)

[Phoeny]

First test your cable with A4 B5. And it don't use CAN for diagnostics. Only K1 and K2.
What engine you have in that B4? Let's hope it's not a 2.3 10v or 2.0 16v trash.
ok, will try that

1.9 TDI 1Z

Edit: Cable works fine on Audi A4 B5, but it wont connect to Audi 80 B4. I have read that B4 has a hard time connecting to anything. is there anything i can do to improve that?

[Mario6]

Phoeny (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/559993-Phoeny)

That's why I wrote that vcds lite 1.2 is better for older cars. To speed up communication with the Audi B4 you need to change the START BAUD from "0" to 9600. In vcds lite 1.2 you can do it many times. With vcds hex can start baud you can set before the first connection (OPTION) of the cable. You need to install the software again and set the start baud.
Try.

[RedNix]

Hello, I bought VCDS 18.2 clone running with 1.12 loader.
http://oi63.tinypic.com/35mjtqo.jpg
http://oi63.tinypic.com/30sy80o.jpg
When I connect it to car, it blinks red and thank lights solid green. After running software and trying test, while connected to car, it says: port ok, interface not found. On the other hand, when connected only to laptop interface is found with status: Not plugged into Car. Anyone has idea how to solve issue?

[kaalis]

Seller ignores you?

[sirdaniel]

Kolimer's loader 6.3 its working well

[kaalis]

You need to install the software again and set the start baud.
It's the same as simply editing vcds.cfg?

[Mario6]

kaalis (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/158270-kaalis)


This changes the data transfer speed from 0 to 9600 (eg Opel 10400). Nothing more. Helps in connection with older Audi A4 and A6 engines.

[Tib82]

Hello guys. I have flashed about 10 VCDS (15.7 RED PCB, 12.12 GREEN and 17.0, 17.8) with kolimers v4 and v5 loader, everything was fine. But now i am stuck. I don't know why but last 3 VCDS clone 17.8.1 i cant reflash with USBasp - when i first time conected i can read chip, i add PROJECT from v5 and PRESS AUTO. Atmega starting programming but after about 10 s i geting error (somthing about can't verify flash or...), and i am try second time with project from v4 - this same problem. After 3-4 times programming i getting another ERROR - CANT ENABLE CHIP. And no more cant read ATMEGA. I have 3 same interfaces now with same problem.
544378544377

Please share a real photo from your own PCB, otherwise we cannot help as proper as we would like :victorious:

Because I made these pics from my cable about 4 months ago. If you check the AT162, you will see a written 182 sign on the top. This interface came like a 18.2 cable and it's type is HW44 and running proper with Kolimer's v6.3
546850546851546852546853

[kaalis]

This changes the data transfer speed from 0 to 9600 (eg Opel 10400). Nothing more. Helps in connection with older Audi A4 and A6 engines.
But don't need to reinstall vcds to change this value. If it really helps or not. :)
It's read by vcds once program starts. Need to restart vcds so it would read edited config again.
Never used it really in A4 B5, A6 C4 and A6 C6. All connections were succesfull using default 0.
Does it make initial connection with these 20 year old cars faster? Sorry, haven't tested it.

[Mario6]

I changed Start Baud to 9600 when I could not connect to the engine at all. In the Audi a4 1.8T and 1.9 Tdi, 2.5 Tdi has helped. I did not have to do it in all old cars.

[Aleks1975S]

Д
Good afternoon, tell me with what loader VCDS 18.2.1 RUS will work (Russian)?Good afternoon, tell me with what loader VCDS 18.2.1 will work (it's Russian)?

[Mario6]

Aleks1975S (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/551712-Aleks1975S)

Use Kolimers loader v 6.3. I used and 18.2.1 PL works.

http://ru.ross-tech.com/?page_id=431&lang=ru

[dudzsi]

Hello!
44HW can you upload the 46 firmware? If I tell what's happening?
thx

[Aleks1975S]

[QUOTE = Mario6; 3341341] Aleks1975S (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/551712-Aleks1975S)

Использовать погрузчик Kolimers v 6.3. Я использовал и 18.2.1 PL работает.

http://ru.ross-tech.com/?page_id=431&lang=ru [/ QUOTE]
547042

Кolimers v 6.3, VCDS 18.2.1 RUS no works

[vaicekas]

[QUOTE = Mario6; 3341341] Aleks1975S (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/551712-Aleks1975S)

Использовать погрузчик Kolimers v 6.3. Я использовал и 18.2.1 PL работает.

http://ru.ross-tech.com/?page_id=431&lang=ru [/ QUOTE]
547042

Кolimers v 6.3, VCDS 18.2.1 RUS no works

Did you write the RUS EEPROM?

[Mario6]

Aleks1975S (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/551712-Aleks1975S)

I tried to run 18.2.1 RUS with Kolimers V 5.0, 6.1 and 6.3. Did not work.
Maybe you should use version 17.8.1 RUS.

EDIT

I checked. Kolimers loader v 6.3 works with 17.8.1 RUS

[Aleks1975S]

Thanks I know. I have a good working VCDS 18.2 ENG and VCDS 17.8.1 RUS. Can anyone have a solution for VCDS 18.2.1 RUS?

[jan4]

for reference ,

i have tried 18.2.1 Polish , but unfortunately Russian is not working .


Jan4

[Aleks1975S]

Thanks I know. I have a good working VCDS 18.2 ENG and VCDS 17.8.1 RUS. Can anyone have a solution for VCDS 18.2.1 RUS?

[kaalis]

Wait for loader 7.0, then it will work.

[dj2d]

Hello, I bought VCDS 18.2 clone running with 1.12 loader.
http://oi63.tinypic.com/35mjtqo.jpg
http://oi63.tinypic.com/30sy80o.jpg
When I connect it to car, it blinks red and thank lights solid green. After running software and trying test, while connected to car, it says: port ok, interface not found. On the other hand, when connected only to laptop interface is found with status: Not plugged into Car. Anyone has idea how to solve issue?

You need to get it activated by your seller, it will never works without it. Or flash it with Kolimer's tool...

[dj2d]

Wait for loader 7.0, then it will work.

I didn't read from Kolimer since a long time, someone knows if he's working on a new loader?

[kaalis]

I would wait for next out-of-beta release and see what "improvements" Uwe has done to vcds.exe

[navin]

I somehow damaged the pad on Atmega162 chip (Xtal1 pin15) and I want to reconnect it, but I don't know where pin 15 goes in this circuit. Thanks in advance.

https://image.ibb.co/e6Jzfe/IMG_1849.jpg

[hid3]

Pins 14 and 15 go to 7.3728 MHz quartz crystal (one to each end).
Use multimeter to verity.

[Roma77]

Tell me please what is the radio parts in the picture? Thank you.

[xoom]

all diodes, you can use 4148.. its SOD80C package

[liviudiaconu]

For sure noone Zener diode?

[sympho]

Can anyone help me install kolimer loader and use on 18.2 danish vcds?

[kaalis]

What problems are you having? Reading?

[pocinas]

Hi There folks.

After broke my 2 VCDS one HEX+CAN (0x44) 2nd HEX v2 (0x46) (using probably wrong number vcds and wrong loader) both cable was recognized (detected) but shows NOT PLUGGED INTO A CAR (off course OBD2 plug was connected to car).

So i start procedure reflash ATMEGA162..... older VCDS HEX+CAN (0x46) back to life (reflash using Programmer TL866 Plus) tested with car and at the moment work fine.

the same firmware but for 0x44 i tried wrote to 2nd vcds HEX v2, flashing ATMEGA 162 finally was OK, but VCDS 17.8 (17.1.3) still NOT PLUGGED INTO A CAR and both LEDS not light.


Can anyone tell me firmware for HEX V2 and HEX+CAN shoul be diffrent on is the same to both cables?

If is diffrent someone can share firmware or link where i can find, on this forum or nuber post ( i tried find but without result)

[liviudiaconu]

You said your Hex+CAn is 0x44 but you said wrote 0x46. So? Post here photos good resolution with both sides of PCBs.

For 17.x.y-18.z.w version Firware is 1.96. 0x44 or 0x46, like HW-type

[pocinas]

You said your Hex+CAn is 0x44 but you said wrote 0x46. So? Post here photos good resolution with both sides of PCBs.

For 17.x.y-18.z.w version Firware is 1.96. 0x44 or 0x46, like HW-type

Apologize if i confused... the same firmware means file from the dame package, finally Like hex-can hw is 0x44 because pin 34 and 35 is connected with GAL chip... so wrote 0x44 file then Hex v2 pin 34 and 35 is NC so i used files 0x46. But for both vcds firmware from the same package, just diffrent 0x44 or 0x46.

I thinking maybe for Hex V2 is totally diffrent firmware from.diffrent package, because in description Hex v2 is faster then older Hex-Can and Hex v2 can support UDS/ODX.

So this is why was my question.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180811/173c9c6a314aa3a1ae02b8272243d9c8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180811/c72f17935c31d8404623c8857acd2d83.jpg

[alexm1]

For this hardware without GAL/ATF how can we "see" the type of the hw?

Is this one 0x44 or 0x46?
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[Bregu]

Hello there,

i´ve figured that my cable have an ARM chip, so useless.

thanks for your help

[jan4]

only atmega 162 can be adapted......................
yours has an arm processor .

[Bregu]

Thank you.

I´ll try to buy a better one.

[Baal]

I have but one question, does this work on 2018 VAG cars?

[kaalis]

Even originals works only partly with latest years. Check rosstech forum.

[Baal]

Even originals works only partly with latest years. Check rosstech forum.

So basically it doesn't make difference if I'm using cloned interface, it works as good as the original?


I have this one HEX+CAN

HW: 0x44
FW: 1.96
PID: FA20
Upgradable via USB using VAGCOM_EEWriteLang.exe

[kaalis]

Post autoscan of your 2018 car.

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/445213-please-upgrade-to-a-current-ross-tech-interface-error/

[Baal]

Post autoscan of your 2018 car.

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/445213-please-upgrade-to-a-current-ross-tech-interface-error/
It's not mine it's my customers car, I have HEX V2 interface too bought from obd2cartool.com but i haven't had any time to get it running yet. Will my HEX V2 work as good as the original?

[kaalis]

If you have no Vbat in port test result, then you have fake V2.
Check device manager for cable name/title. Is it under usb or hid devices...

[Baal]

Yes I know I have a clone from obd2cartool.com but that was not my question.

My question was will this interface work as good as the original.

[liviudiaconu]

[...]
Is this one 0x44 or 0x46?

Is a petard.


[...]
I thinking maybe for Hex V2 is totally diffrent firmware from.diffrent package, because in description Hex v2 is faster then older Hex-Can and Hex v2 can support UDS/ODX.

So this is why was my question.


Tested "HexV2" and "Hex+CAN" in the same car in "autoscan".
The faster HexV2 is slower than Hex+CAN.
And, most important, "HexV2" is, in fact, a "Hex+CAN".

[hid3]

For this hardware without GAL/ATF how can we "see" the type of the hw?

Is this one 0x44 or 0x46?


What's the point in messing with this interface? It's useless.

GAL is needed for proper operation. 0x44 vs 0x46 difference is how it operates with GAL. So no GAL means no difference.

This interface is like a man without a d1ck.

[Baal]

All we need is a firmware dump that will recognize the new interface as a HID device, only then will we see Ross-Tech HEX-V2 Interface in a test window.

Edit:

I've found something else.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ST-Link-V2-Programming-Unit-mini-STM8-STM32-Emulator-Downloader-M89-New/401088363326?hash=item5d62babb3e%3Ag%3A8soAAOSwZVl XiICF&_sacat=0&_nkw=ST-Link+V2&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313

https://www.st.com/en/development-tools/stsw-link004.html#sw-tools-scroll

ARM MCUs are definitely programmable using this thing but someone has to develop firmware for ARM MCUs :)

[stonecoldro]

why would someone reinvent the wheel? even original R0$$ uses Atmega..

[liviudiaconu]

Originals Hex-CAN use Atmega. Originals HexV2 and NetV2 use STM. More complicated, like a plant.

Clones use Atmega or not but even write on it V2 are Hex-CAN

[Baal]

Yes that's correct but HEX-USB+CAN are slower interfaces than HEX-V2 because of that, HEX-V2 uses USB HID Class and actually needs no driver to run. And yes both of them are using Intel's HEX binary code implementation for programming MCUs, but ARM is faster.

[belkor]

vcds18.2.1 italian and portuguese

[liviudiaconu]

Yes that's correct but HEX-USB+CAN are slower interfaces than HEX-V2 because of that, HEX-V2 uses USB HID Class and actually needs no driver to run. And yes both of them are using Intel's HEX binary code implementation for programming MCUs, but ARM is faster.

ONLY if you reffer at ORIGINAL.

For chinese clones HexV2 is not real. Chinese HexV2 is in fact Hex+CAN. But slowly like HexCAN.
Tested. On the same car, same version of VCDS, Autoscan HexV2 time - Autoscan HexCAN time = 1-3-10 seconds. Depend how many controllers are on car.

[Baal]

ONLY if you reffer at ORIGINAL.

For chinese clones HexV2 is not real. Chinese HexV2 is in fact Hex+CAN. But slowly like HexCAN.
Tested. On the same car, same version of VCDS, Autoscan HexV2 time - Autoscan HexCAN time = 1-3-10 seconds. Depend how many controllers are on car.


On my car autoscan completes in 3.42min using HEX+CAN but genuine HEX-V2 took just 1.36min to complete so there is a difference.

[alexm1]

Your V2 has Atmega inside or ARM?

[liviudiaconu]

He told exactly the same thing i told: ONLY for ORIGINALS.

Most users use china clone. And chineses write like "our clone hexv2 is faster" because this write uwe for original.

I told i tested two clones. And fake-named V2 is in fact Hex+CAN.

I am currious to see from @Baal two PrintScreens:
one from Test-result and one from About screen for his HexV2

[Baal]

Your V2 has Atmega inside or ARM?


It's not mine but it has ARM, it's genuine.


He told exactly the same thing i told: ONLY for ORIGINALS.

Most users use china clone. And chineses write like "our clone hexv2 is faster" because this write uwe for original.

I told i tested two clones. And fake-named V2 is in fact Hex+CAN.

I am currious to see from @Baal two PrintScreens:
one from Test-result and one from About screen for his HexV2

Ahh I just got home, I'll rescan it tomorrow when i get back. :)

[hid3]

ONLY if you reffer at ORIGINAL.

For chinese clones HexV2 is not real. Chinese HexV2 is in fact Hex+CAN. But slowly like HexCAN.
Tested. On the same car, same version of VCDS, Autoscan HexV2 time - Autoscan HexCAN time = 1-3-10 seconds. Depend how many controllers are on car.

This is true. "Fake-V2" (based on AT162) is in reality several seconds slower in performing Autoscan (for the same car, same PC, same software, same everything) despite the fact that it is supposed to have a faster CAN chip. Looks like the limitation is not there at all :)





He told exactly the same thing i told: ONLY for ORIGINALS.

Most users use china clone. And chineses write like "our clone hexv2 is faster" because this write uwe for original.

I told i tested two clones. And fake-named V2 is in fact Hex+CAN.

I am currious to see from @Baal two PrintScreens:
one from Test-result and one from About screen for his HexV2

Yeah, again very true. Good news is that the "Fake-V2" (based on AT162) has (almost) identical PCB configuration to the HEX-CAN (aka HEX-PRO v6.1) except the LEDs and USB connector positions, of course. I've heard that the "Fake-V2" (based on AT162) had some its components sourced from the same suppliers the genuine manufacturer has obtained previously.

[RedNix]

Hello, I have VCDS 16.8 which I use on multiple computers. TDI timing graph works on Win 7 but doesn't on Win XP. Anyone knows what might be the issue? Regards

[Jerak]

I just ordered the hid3 recommended cable from obd2cartool.com and have read Info.pdf.
So:
-I install the version provided on CD via their directions
-provide power via OBD, run VAGCOM_HWType.exe > Read
-let's say I get HW 46
-no need to cut trace because of no STC chip
-run VAGCOM_EEWrite.exe

Will it prompt me with everything I need to do?

-with new firmware,upplug and replug, install new drivers?
-install upgrade Vagcom (VCDS) v18.2.0
-run new Vagcom (VCDS), Options > Test

Is this about right? Thank you.

[kaalis]

-run new Vagcom (VCDS), Options > Test
Is this about right? Thank you.
Before this step copy loader, remove shortcuts to vcds.exe and run loader.

[Jerak]

Great, thx. .....

[adicristi]

1. With 6.3 from kolimer..what version of vcds is working stable?
2. Where I can download that version? Because right now only 18.2.1 is on the web and is not working with 6.3 from Kolimer.
Thank you.
Have a great day!


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[networkers]

http://www.share-online.biz/dl/7ZJFK49PAH1Y
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/7D1K9R6PAP

[belkor]

have spanish 18.2.1 working very well on windows10x64 pro with kolimer v6.3

[kaalis]

"Problem" is with english 18.2.1 only

[adicristi]

I think I burn my interface. Even with UsbAsp I cannot repair. Do you know some good clone with AT162?

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[belkor]

always I got from here(attachment)

[kaalis]

Your port test only shows that you didn't connect it to the car (at least not connected to 12v source)

[Resko]

Can someone please upload VCDS loader V6.3 here, the one sendspace seems to contains a virus. (I read a report that sendspace adds virus themselves sometimes)

[kaalis]

Yes, it may be detected as virus. Another option is to not use, buy NEC clone or buy genuine.

[networkers]

the one sendspace seems to contains a virus. (I read a report that sendspace adds virus themselves sometimes)

It is not really a virus or trojan. Is more an "unwanted application". I guess RT submitted the loader to different AV companies to classify it as a virus.

This is the SHA256 checksum from org. loader 6.3: 51fe127644ff4460be4ce233ee6068829098e5a80a49afbcf6 a0bc937bd52269

[Resko]

It is not really a virus or trojan. Is more an "unwanted application". I guess RT submitted the loader to different AV companies to classify it as a virus.

This is the SHA256 checksum from org. loader 6.3: 51fe127644ff4460be4ce233ee6068829098e5a80a49afbcf6 a0bc937bd52269



Thanks for reply, windows defender is reporting Occamy.c trojan,
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/threats/malware-encyclopedia-description?Name=Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C&ThreatID=-2147240516

I will compare the checksum, and i guess i can test the loader on an old laptop first.

Edit: Im actually using Kolimers original sendspace link, in his 6.3 loader post in this thread.

Maybe i've missed it but is there some other available link to the 6.3 loader?

[belkor]

you have to make an exclusion on your AV
if not, you can not run vcds

[Resko]

Thanks all, i tried on an old laptop running vista and im able to start vcds with the 6.3 loader. However i have another issue now, my cable is not detected when i connect it to the car. VCDS says interface not found. I have 44 HW, which i have flashed succesfully with flash and eeprom from 6.1 loader. Im running 17.8 VCDS with the 6.3 loader.
When not connected to the car interface is correctly detected in the 17.8 VCDS, (however it says not plugged into car.). Should i try to reflash my cable with the eeprom and flash from 6.3 loader package?

[networkers]

Try to connect the interface directly to 12V/GND and retest.
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[Resko]

Try to connect the interface directly to 12V/GND and retest.


I just tried and got same result. I conncted directly to 12v and pressed test in VCDS it says interface not found. The led is lit up in green color. Directly after connecting to 12V the led is red for a brief moment and then swtiches to constant green. Any other ideas?

[networkers]

i have flashed succesfully with flash and eeprom from 6.1 loader.

You have flashed your interface by "VAGCOM_EEWriteLang.exe" orUSBasp? And we are talking about the english version?

Maybe you have to update your FTDI-Chip, see info.pdf?!

[Resko]

You have flashed your interface by "VAGCOM_EEWriteLang.exe" orUSBasp? And we are talking about the english version? I used usbasp with the included Project in 6.1 loader.( for 44 hw ) I downloaded multi language installer 17.8 but vcds seem go be in English.

[networkers]

This is 100% org. 17.8.0-Installer in english, give them a try...

http://www.share-online.biz/dl/ZAWI9R6PGT

[Fabio89]

My friends

Does any clone version working with New Polo/Virtus (MQB) ? Anybody has tested? Because my fake "Hex-V2" from China didn't works and Rosstech said only Genuine Hex-V2 will work on this plataform (not even genuine Hex-Can works).
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[adicristi]

I think I burn my interface. Even with UsbAsp I cannot repair. Do you know some good clone with AT162?

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I tested with 3 cars. Same error. I think I have an electrical problen...What I should change on the PCB?

[Tib82]

Now I'm using Kolimer's 6.3 full package for 18.2 and it works proper :devil:

But if I wanna downgrade my cable to 17.8 how will I now which package will good this:questionmark:
I found the followings: v1-full , v2.7-full , v4-full

Can somebody tell me which version of \/€Đ$ use these packages?
Is there any way to check a BIN/HEX files about it's supported \/€Đ$ version?


Thanks!

[belkor]

adicristi did you use MProg?

[belkor]

Tib82 can use kolimer v6.1

[kaalis]

But if I wanna downgrade my cable to 17.8 how will I now which package will good this:questionmark:
V6.3 will also work with 17.x

[Tib82]

V6.3 will also work with 17.x
If I know right the v6.3 supports maximum only 2 languages (English + 1 additional), but my previous 17.8 cable was a multi lang. So I think that used a previous version of the BIN/HEX file. What is your opinion about it?

[Fabio89]

I have this interface. Is it chinese crap one, right ?
550680550681

Could you guys recommend me(post a link to buy) a good one that i can upgrade easily with VAGCOM_EEWriteLang.exe"
Do i need buy USBASP (i'm really noob) ?
Thanks

[kaalis]

but my previous 17.8 cable was a multi lang.
Was it atmega162 based?
v6.3 supports English + 15 different languages (yes, I counted options from dropdown). Are you switching to other language every 10 minutes?
Reflash loader and use other language.

[Tib82]

... Are you switching to other language every 10 minutes?
Reflash loader and use other language.Of course not :D But one of my friends wanna use it with German and Hungarian languages and it supports Eng+Ger or Eng+Hun. So thats why the 17 multi lang should good for him :)

So I still got no answer for the package versions:

The v1 and v2.7 contains only 1 eeprom for 0x44 and 1 for 0x46 and the v4 and v6.3 contains eeprom for each languages. Is it means that the v1 and v2.7 are multi langs?
Can somebody tell me which version of \/€Đ$ use the v1, v2.7 and v4 packages?
Is there any way to check a BIN/HEX files about it's supported \/€Đ$ version?

[networkers]

I have this interface. Is it chinese crap one, right ?


Unfortunately yes! No Atmega162 chipset , no update, maybe no K(KL)-Line support.
Read some pages backward and you will find a good interface from obd2cartool.com.

[networkers]

But one of my friends wanna use it with German and Hungarian languages and it supports Eng+Ger or Eng+Hun.


Go and get another good cable for 25 EUR and you are done :-)

[Resko]

This is 100% org. 17.8.0-Installer in english, give them a try...

http://www.share-online.biz/dl/ZAWI9R6PGT

Thanks networkers, i tried it, still the same result unfortunately. I even updated the atmega with 6.3 flash and hex. And also updated ftdi with mprog. Any other ideas?
The interface worked previously with old 11.11 VCDS and got disabled when connected to internet. I will check the pcb if there are some issues with it.
It is strange that it is detected correctly when not connected to 12V but as soon as 12v is applied interface is not found by VCDS.
I need VCDS right now to investigate an issue with park sensors on my Tiguan.

[adicristi]

Link?

Go and get another good cable for 25 EUR and you are done :-)

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[alexm1]

Unfortunately yes! No Atmega162 chipset , no update, maybe no K(KL)-Line support.
Read some pages backward and you will find a good interface from obd2cartool.com.Removing ARM cip and soldering Atmega on pcb will be a chance to make it work again? I see on pcb a place were will fit Atmega, wrigth?

[networkers]

Maybe this one:

http://www.obd2cartool.com/vagcom-1684-full-active-vcds-1684-diy-vag-com-1684-can-reprogram-language-and-version-p-1266

You need an USBASP programmer to update/reflash.

[shkumbata74]

17.8.0 work VCDSLoader_v5

[networkers]

Thanks networkers, i tried it, still the same result unfortunately. I even updated the atmega with 6.3 flash and hex. And also updated ftdi with mprog. Any other ideas?


What does "VAGCOM_HWType.exe" and Windows System/Hardwaremanager show about your interface?

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[belkor]

What does "VAGCOM_HWType.exe" and Windows System/Hardwaremanager show about your interface?

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[xoom]

Thanks networkers, i tried it, still the same result unfortunately. I even updated the atmega with 6.3 flash and hex. And also updated ftdi with mprog. Any other ideas?
The interface worked previously with old 11.11 VCDS and got disabled when connected to internet. I will check the pcb if there are some issues with it.
It is strange that it is detected correctly when not connected to 12V but as soon as 12v is applied interface is not found by VCDS.
I need VCDS right now to investigate an issue with park sensors on my Tiguan.
You can diagnose Park sensors without diagnostics :) just by ear.. if you get close and listen to them they make sound (tik tik tik tik tik....) that's working sensor :) (atleast BMW sensors do that)

[Tib82]

Go and get another good cable for 25 EUR and you are done :-)
Wow one more reply without any answer or helping hint :D I don't wanna buy a new one, I wanna reflash it with the right contetnt.

Is there anybody here who know something about these questions?


The v1 and v2.7 contains only 1 eeprom for 0x44 and 1 for 0x46 and the v4 and v6.3 contains eeprom for each languages. Is it means that the v1 and v2.7 are multi langs?
Can somebody tell me which version of \/€Đ$ use the v1, v2.7 and v4 packages?
Is there any way to check a BIN/HEX files about it's supported \/€Đ$ version?

[Resko]

What does "VAGCOM_HWType.exe" and Windows System/Hardwaremanager show about your interface?


Mine looks like this:
550819550820

[alexm1]

I did not remember the page were was shared last dumps, but look for the latest loader v6.3. There you will find pairs eeprom +flash ×44.×46. Take them and use it as a pair , not combined.

[hid3]

Wow one more reply without any answer or helping hint :D I don't wanna buy a new one, I wanna reflash it with the right contetnt.

Is there anybody here who know something about these questions?


The v1 and v2.7 contains only 1 eeprom for 0x44 and 1 for 0x46 and the v4 and v6.3 contains eeprom for each languages. Is it means that the v1 and v2.7 are multi langs?
Can somebody tell me which version of \/€Đ$ use the v1, v2.7 and v4 packages?
Is there any way to check a BIN/HEX files about it's supported \/€Đ$ version?



Why do you keep diggin up old versions? Have you tried Windows 98? LOL. Forget about the previous versions. Each Kolimer's version is a significant improvenet over the old one; once new one is out, the previous ones should be forgotten.
Having said the above, use Kolimer's v6.3 or v7.0 with any VCDS version, starting from 17.1.3 till 18.2.1 and enjoy.

[belkor]

my new clone vcds hex v2

[networkers]

Mine looks like this:

Are you sure, that you have written the right FTDI file? Check what kind of FTDI-Chip is on PCB. I guess you need to write "ftdi_mprog_BMBL.ept" with mprog.

Then you will get:

USB VID=0403
USB PID=FA20

Manufacturer=Ross-Tech
Product=Ross-Tech HEX-USB

[networkers]

use Kolimer's v6.3 or v7.0

v7.0 did I miss something?

[kaalis]

The v1 and v2.7 contains only 1 eeprom for 0x44 and 1 for 0x46 and the v4 and v6.3 contains eeprom for each languages. Is it means that the v1 and v2.7 are multi langs?
Can somebody tell me which version of \/€Đ$ use the v1, v2.7 and v4 packages?
Is there any way to check a BIN/HEX files about it's supported \/€Đ$ version?

1. Kolimer added languages later. You can flash any loader version, install vcds language of your choice and see does it work. Definitely faster than 2 days waiting for answer.
2. You can start with 17.1.x and test each of them going to more recent version while you got licence lost. Had it written down somewhere but can'f find it now.

Leave old versions in history. Some had coding bits shifted, etc.
I understand you are searching for version combination that works in every language. Don't want to dissappoint you.


my new clone vcds hex v2
Looks like fake v2 by looking at device manager and port test :)

[Tib82]

Why do you keep diggin up old versions? Have you tried Windows 98? LOL. Forget about the previous versions. Each Kolimer's version is a significant improvenet over the old one; once new one is out, the previous ones should be forgotten.
Having said the above, use Kolimer's v6.3 or v7.0 with any VCDS version, starting from 17.1.3 till 18.2.1 and enjoy.
What OS I'm using is depends what is the hardware inside the PC. So in a rare case yes, I can use Win 98 :rofl:

For myself 18.2 Eng is quite good. So why I diggin up old versions?! Maybe because I need an older version for a specific case :) As I wrote previously I need 2 specific languages (German and Hungarian) in the same time and with 6.3 it's not available. So if an earlier version could work with fully multi lang (in the same time), the 17 is still quite enough for a 10 yrs old car. So can you help me about my questions above?

Another question:
Is the v7.0 out? :idea: Now is it supports the 18.2.1 English version? Where can I download this?

[belkor]

Looks like fake v2 by looking at device manager and port test :)

I know it´s vcds hex can with other design

[hid3]

v7.0 did I miss something?

Actually no. It's for alpha/beta testers.



2. You can start with 17.1.x and test each of them going to more recent version while you got licence lost. Had it written down somewhere but can'f find it now.

Leave old versions in history. Some had coding bits shifted, etc.
I understand you are searching for version combination that works in every language. Don't want to dissappoint you.


^^ Yeah, this one.
Hints:
V2 Loader + 17.1.3 = MultiLanguage on one EEPROM
V6.3 Loader + VCDS 17.8.0/17.8.1/18.2.0 = Two languages (Your and English) on one EEPROM

[Tib82]

Hints:
V2 Loader + 17.1.3 = MultiLanguage on one EEPROM
V6.3 Loader + VCDS 17.8.0/17.8.1/18.2.0 = Two languages (Your and English) on one EEPROM

Because I was sure that previously I met with a 17.8.1 multi lang cable, I flashed and tested several EEPROM + Loader versions, and I got the followings:
v6.3 EEPROM + v6.3 Loader >> 17.8.1 and 18.2.0 with max 2 languages
v2.7 EEPROM + v2.7 Loader >> 17.8.1 multi lang :biggrin:

Different versions of EEPROM + Loader combo (e.g.: v2.7 EEPROM + v4 Loader) makes "Interface: Not Found!"
So yes, the multi language \/€Đ$ is possible with ATmega162, but only the 17.8.1 and eariler versions can work like this.

[Resko]

Are you sure, that you have written the right FTDI file? Check what kind of FTDI-Chip is on PCB. I guess you need to write "ftdi_mprog_BMBL.ept" with mprog.

Then you will get:

USB VID=0403
USB PID=FA20

Manufacturer=Ross-Tech
Product=Ross-Tech HEX-USB

Hello i have the FTD2323BL chip and i used BMBL ept file with mprog. I dont see any issues when programming with mprog. Here is what i get when i take read and parse in MPROG:
550875

[hid3]

Tib82, please do not re-invent the wheel.
Firstly, I am not sure what actually you mean by v2.7.
Kolimer has never released such version.
But I assume you mean V2.
Trust me, 17.8.x will NOT work correctly with V2 (amd multi-lang). Been there, done it, proved that.
17.1.3 is the maximum what will work with V2 and multi-language setup.

PS: "license is valid" does not mean you have a fully and correctly working interface at all!

[belkor]

Hello i have the FTD2323BL chip and i used BMBL ept file with mprog. I dont see any issues when programming with mprog. Here is what i get when i take read and parse in MPROG:
550875
seems to be ok
run now VAGCOM_EEWriteLang as admin choosing your language and with AV and/or Windows Defender off
after all ok, run vcds from VCDSLoader that you previously placed in vcds instalation folder

[adicristi]

This is my interface. Is broken. From what I saw ...I have missing pieces.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/de52929b4a523cb6d1e7413f06ab40ec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/ae8051da3cba4aafc3e5134ff84fdbb3.jpg

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[alin 151]

This is my interface. Is broken. From what I saw ...I have missing pieces.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/de52929b4a523cb6d1e7413f06ab40ec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/ae8051da3cba4aafc3e5134ff84fdbb3.jpg

Sent from my Mi A1 using TapatalkClean with alcohol isopropyl rewrite and will work.
Missing pieces is not important.... aes.

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[kaalis]

Firstly, I am not sure what actually you mean by v2.7.
He have read archive extension as part of version number.
VCDSLoader_v2.7z


This is my interface. Is broken. From what I saw ...I have missing pieces.
Who sold you this?

[adicristi]

China - aliexpress .
1. When I write the interface sometimes I have FT_Write I/O error...
2. For the first time after flashing it, it works. But if I disconnected from USB and I connect again will not work. "Interface not found."
3. What shroud I check on PCB ?

[Tib82]

...
Trust me, 17.8.x will NOT work correctly with V2 (amd multi-lang). Been there, done it, proved that.
17.1.3 is the maximum what will work with V2 and multi-language setup.

PS: "license is valid" does not mean you have a fully and correctly working interface at all!

What I checked: After flashing my interface with the v2 single-EEPROM content + using v2 Loader, the 17.8.1 English, German, Hungarian, Romanian softwares recognised my cable as "Valid / Activated" and I reach many modules in my car and I easily recoded them.

I don't know what does it mean "NOT work correctly". I don't know how the loader works. Maybie it's bit more than just pair the fake cable SN with the software. But tf the cable recognised as a valid cable, how can it works incorrecly? :eek: "Been there, done it, proved that." No worries, I trust you. I just would like to understand what is wrong with 17.8.1 + v2 loader, what was the exact problem what you saw.


He have read archive extension as part of version number.
VCDSLoader_v2.7z
It looks a possible reason my misunderstood :) Thanks for the correction

[belkor]

China - aliexpress .
1. When I write the interface sometimes I have FT_Write I/O error...
2. For the first time after flashing it, it works. But if I disconnected from USB and I connect again will not work. "Interface not found."
3. What shroud I check on PCB ?

plug in the cable and run as admin VAGCOM_HWType and report

[kaalis]

China - aliexpress .
Contact seller, describe how bad it looks, how it works, show pictures, get refund. Order another cable elsewhere. End of story.

[tucano79]

Hi guys when I try to program with usbasp my cable I have a message that show "chip enable program error". May be because first time I try to erase chip and then to write atmega by usbasp but I missed to give 12V. So now if I try to program correctly with 12V I have this message and I can do nothing. Can you help me what I have to do to repair cable?

[Resko]

seems to be ok
run now VAGCOM_EEWriteLang as admin choosing your language and with AV and/or Windows Defender off
after all ok, run vcds from VCDSLoader that you previously placed in vcds instalation folder
Hello Belkor

This did the trick, it is now working! Thanks all for the support. Now on to another problem, which doesnt belong to this thread i guess- :) Eeprom in the park assist ecu is corrupt..
I found a working flash dump so now i need to figure out how to flash it..

[Roma77]

Почему у вас есть 35-36,

[belkor]

Hello Belkor

This did the trick, it is now working! Thanks all for the support. Now on to another problem, which doesnt belong to this thread i guess- :) Eeprom in the park assist ecu is corrupt..
I found a working flash dump so now i need to figure out how to flash it..
well, glad to hear that
need Carprog or Xprog or something like that
if not, another park assist ecu
also could try odis engineering

[Roma77]

Hi guys when I try to program with usbasp my cable I have a message that show "chip enable program error". May be because first time I try to erase chip and then to write atmega by usbasp but I missed to give 12V. So now if I try to program correctly with 12V I have this message and I can do nothing. Can you help me what I have to do to repair cable?
Why do you have 35-36 soldered to each other on the processor?

[bratek]

Hello all
I'm new to this forum, I have read a lot of posts including in the thread and I probably still need help.
hardware as in the pictures

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atmega 162 16AU
ATF16V8BQL
STC11F01
FT232BL
MCP2515
MCP255
I am asking for info on how to upgrade to newer versions, I have a usb programmer.


Thanks in advance for your help.

[belkor]

Hello all
I am asking for info on how to upgrade to newer versions, I have a usb programmer.
Thanks in advance for your help.

first download from here kolimer v6.3 https://www.sendspace.com/file/em3y1f
AV or Windows Defender off
plug in your cable into OBD socket car
run VAGCOM_HWType as admin and report

[kaalis]

He has STC chip. Need to sort that out before. Read info.pdf from archive but he have to do it anyway.

[networkers]

Hi guys when I try to program with usbasp my cable I have a message that show "chip enable program error"

Error could be wrong connections, so check your wiring. Maybe give "avrdude" a try. Batch/CMD files are in loader archive.

[adicristi]

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So, why I receive this error and how can I fix it?

[networkers]

So, why I receive this error and how can I fix it?

Educated guess: USB cable malfunction or FTDI chip (almost) dead

edit: after reviewing your pictures, i agree 100% with kaalis
(http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/158270-kaalis)

[adicristi]

I will order I FTDI Chip.


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[alexm1]

Hello all
I'm new to this forum, I have read a lot of posts including in the thread and I probably still need help.
hardware as in the pictures

551009551010

atmega 162 16AU
ATF16V8BQL
STC11F01
FT232BL
MCP2515
MCP255
I am asking for info on how to upgrade to newer versions, I have a usb programmer.


Thanks in advance for your help.Use multimeter to find pads(near to usb 4 wires) coresponding to Atmega 1.2.3.4.

For this interface you do not need to worry about STC. Just read with usb programmer just to check if you find the rigth pads and than write x46 dumps using the corect bits as are described in info.pdf.

Use mprog to write eeprom to ftdi.

[Tib82]

Hi guys when I try to program with usbasp my cable I have a message that show "chip enable program error". May be because first time I try to erase chip and then to write atmega by usbasp but I missed to give 12V. So now if I try to program correctly with 12V I have this message and I can do nothing. Can you help me what I have to do to repair cable?
You don't need to add 12V when you flashing with USPASP / USBISP. It needs only 5V through USB port.

I got the same "chip enable program error" when I try to use this cheap ($1.25) programmer under Windows 10 (64-bit):
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For this the solution for me was a good driver: USBasp Driver (libusbK v3.0.7.0)
With this the Windows device manager recognized the programmer. Works proper with ProgISP 1.72

Previously I tied an another programmer and I can offer this one ($2.30), what was recognised automatically by the Windows. No extra driver needed.
Windows device manager recognized the programmer. Works proper with ProgISP 1.72 and it recognised the programmer as "ZF-008 HV Programmer Ver: 1.6"
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[bratek]

first download from here kolimer v6.3 https://www.sendspace.com/file/em3y1f
AV or Windows Defender off
plug in your cable into OBD socket car
run VAGCOM_HWType as admin and report


FW Version : 1.84
HW Version : 0x44
Identification : HEX-OEM

[belkor]

FW Version : 1.84
HW Version : 0x44
Identification : HEX-OEM

AV or Windows Defender off
plug in your cable into OBD socket car
run VAGCOM_EEWriteLang as admin choosing your language and report

[kaalis]

Everything runs from limited user as good as from admin.
vagcom_EEwritelang.exe is not detected as bad. Virustotal detection ratio: 3 / 66 (all 3 from unknown antivirus software).
Only vcdsloader.exe needs AV exception.

[hid3]

vagcom_EEwritelang.exe will NOT work on his cable since it doesn't have bootloader enabled.
Please do no mislead people.

[belkor]

vagcom_EEwritelang.exe will NOT work on his cable since it doesn't have bootloader enabled.
Please do no mislead people.
you`re right
we will see after his report
mislead people ???????

[hid3]

bratek will need to do some soldering and reprogramming before he'll be able to use vagcom_EEwritelang.exe

[liviudiaconu]

@belkor and maybe others: "not mislead people" - translate as "do not disinform"... hid3 use a translator from russian to eng and sometimes google or yandex translator offer a bad translation. Like here.

About "not in bootloader mode"..i think are more causes.
the most common cause is "chinese firmware". No bootloader, bypassed bootloader, modified bootloader+firmware...
Or, sometimes, not proper fuse setting.

[belkor]

@belkor and maybe others: "not mislead people" - translate as "do not disinform"... hid3 use a translator from russian to eng and sometimes google or yandex translator offer a bad translation. Like here.
I supposed that.......no problem at all...........thanks to all

[bratek]

Pins 1-4 are not connected at all.
So let's start with soldering pins for the programmer.
When I do, I'll check your suggestions ...

[alexm1]

Check the edited photo 1-4 should corespond to Atmega , use multimeter -ohm scale.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180824/c28e465fa41324c18f3b6b035b340bb4.jpg

[tucano79]

Thank you for your quick reply. Connections are ok. I had program correctly and easy way other vag. USBASP works good. Only this cable that I program before without 5V, now is it not programmable. Now when I give it 5v led doesn't turn on and I have the message "chip enable program error". I ask what I have to do to program this vag or if it's no more programmable

[alexm1]

I never see or heard anyone saying that is posiblle to reprog atmega without power up by obd2 or direct to LM7805.

Now, you migth blocked atmega for further operation until you use a tool to recover(I do not remember the name of that tool). search google fot atmega doctor reset etc.

[hid3]

The entire circuit operates at 5 Volts. You can use 5V from the programmer to power up the AT162. In fact, that's what LM7805 actualy does.
I really doubt someone might need to use high voltage programmer against ATmega162, unless somethng has gone really really wrong (e.g. RST disabled?!).
Usually under normal conditions that doesn't happen.

[bratek]

Check the edited photo 1-4 should corespond to Atmega , use multimeter -ohm scale.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180824/c28e465fa41324c18f3b6b035b340bb4.jpg



I confirm, you're right, only the order is different
not 3-1-2-4 only 3-2-1-4
what voltage and from where?
with OBDII or USB?

[alexm1]

12 vcc to lm7805https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180824/57ccd06b774cdcee69bf45aa2d7c54eb.jpg

[AJB]

Hello, looking for VCDS cable advice. I have a 2015 Golf SportWagen TDI, & am looking for cloned cable that will support the latest (or a suitable) version of VCDS.
I not only want to check for codes but also make some changes to my TDI programming. ( nothing major)

Since there are a ton of cloned cables out there, I really don't know where to start.

Any help would be appreciated.

[liviudiaconu]

The entire circuit operates at 5 Volts. You can use 5V from the programmer to power up the AT162. In fact, that's what LM7805 actualy does.
I really doubt someone might need to use high voltage programmer against ATmega162, unless somethng has gone really really wrong (e.g. RST disabled?!).
Usually under normal conditions that doesn't happen.

Normal conditions= REAL FischlDE programmer, too. But almost whole peoples use "china clone cheap AVR ISP Programmer". First time must reprogram with another firmware and, sometimes must use "K" drivers.

My personal example: use an cheap programmer. Working 99% well on XP SP2 and eXtreme burner 1.4.3.
On another laptop with W7 64 work 80% well with "K" drivers/extreme burner or ProgISP. The same on W10/64.

W7/64=on a Dell Latitude. So, is possible the news USB controlers be a little bad wquality or..drivers?

Because of this, time to time must use after "atmega doctor" or HVP. But, because of bad quality A162 (maybe china clone too) few times with HVP the A162 was broken. Can programm but.. K1,K2 OK, CAN Not ready. But car having CAN. And no one of CAN tranceivers not bad.

[Tib82]

... Now when I give it 5v led doesn't turn on and I have the message "chip enable program error". I ask what I have to do to program this vag or if it's no more programmable

My USB ISP programmer's got 4 active GND pin and one time when I used my programmer cable with the cheaper USB ASP programmer I got the same fault and error message. To solve it I have to rewire my programming cable, because the USB ASP had only 1 active GND pin and my programming cable used one of the other 3 pins :D Now it's working both programmer :)
For the first step I should check my programmer and my programming cable... Does the USB port / programmer supports the 5V ? Is the programming cable still in good condition (no cracks or anything else)? If you using Jumper cables, then is the wiring good?

[Fabio89]

My friends

Does any clone version working with New Polo/Virtus (MQB) ? Anybody has tested? Because my fake "Hex-V2" from China didn't works and Rosstech said only Genuine Hex-V2 will work on this plataform (not even genuine Hex-Can works).
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Up ! Anyone using VCDS clone in MQB-A0 Plataform (New Polo)?

[liviudiaconu]

OLD Hex+CAN (and your clone HexV2 is in fact Hex+CAN) not work on MQB. Your clone "hexV2" havinh only case like original HexV2

[Fabio89]

OLD Hex+CAN (and your clone HexV2 is in fact Hex+CAN) not work on MQB. Your clone "hexV2" havinh only case like original HexV2
Yes, i know that it is Hex+can (crappy one :thumpdown:).
So, Doesnt have any VCDS Clone version working on MQB-A0 Plataform yet?

[liviudiaconu]

Not and, sincerily, i think will not appear one.

[Fabio89]

Not and, sincerily, i think will not appear one.

Genuine Hex-v2 is so expansive here in Brazil, but i'm seeing i don't have any other choice
Maybe New Jetta 2019 also won't support Hex+Can....idk

[hid3]

Maybe a ticket to States and back plus buying HEX-V2 there will be cheaper than obtaining it in Brasil

[makadam]

Does anyone found solution for Can not ready? I have several cables with this problem so far without resolving the problem. Cables are different HW versions.

[kaalis]

Is your car "can ready"?

[belkor]

Does anyone found solution for Can not ready? I have several cables with this problem so far without resolving the problem. Cables are different HW versions.
try on cars from 2009 onwards and see what happens.

[alexm1]

Happened me to a few times at first Test, Can:Not ready! All of them was Audi. After a few connect/disconect obd2 socket, give another try and Can: Ok. All those cars was Can Ready!

[liviudiaconu]

Yes, me too. Only at first test of same cable on the same SW/ same pc.

[makadam]

Different cars and every car was was after 2010 y. Problem is strange because I change almost every important component from working cable to non working but never succeeded to repair them! I have both version 0x44 and 0x46. I try several times connect disconnect check can-H can-L connection but nothing. I noticed that also some people have this problem but no one found solution. Once time even I bought 2 pcs chinese cables (red one) with this problem it was 15.7 version, one ot them has this problem!

[liviudiaconu]

Tried viceversa too?
Move components from bad to good and see if good remain good?

You changed "important components", i undestand CAN 2 pcs ICs, Atmega, Qtz, maybe GAL...
But the same issue can be generated by a "passive" component like resistor, capacitor OR...PCB? Or soldered wires? etc...

[xoom]

Try measure voltages first on CAN Lines:
CAN_H - GND = 2.5v
CAN_L - GND = 2.5v
measure resistance between CAN Lines(not powered cable):
CAN_H - CAN_L = 120ohm

[kashelis]

554194
Hi friends. Maybe someone knows what is this capacitor? It is broken and I want to know witch capacitor to buy.

[adicristi]

Is ok to order a vcds from obd2cartool?
I found a HQ vcds that support Long codding.
V16.8

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[networkers]

It is broken and I want to know witch capacitor to buy.

Use 12 µF SMD capacitor.

[networkers]

Is ok to order a vcds from obd2cartool?
I found a HQ vcds that support Long codding.V16.8

Yes you can buy this 16.8 "Do it yourself" Interface with programming pins (Model: OBD649) and reflash. You need an USBasp programmer.
Or use it with the supplied 16.8 crack Software.

[kashelis]

Thank you :dancing::dancing:

[kashelis]

Use 12 µF SMD capacitor.

But how much volts?

[shkumbata74]

Different cars and every car was was after 2010 y. Problem is strange because I change almost every important component from working cable to non working but never succeeded to repair them! I have both version 0x44 and 0x46. I try several times connect disconnect check can-H can-L connection but nothing. I noticed that also some people have this problem but no one found solution. Once time even I bought 2 pcs chinese cables (red one) with this problem it was 15.7 version, one ot them has this problem!
I had the same problem. I returned version 17.8.0 VCDS loader V5 and now all worked .

[networkers]

But how much volts?

Between 6-10V should be ok.

[yellowstilo]

554194
Hi friends. Maybe someone knows what is this capacitor? It is broken and I want to know witch capacitor to buy.

try 100 nF - it's not critical because it's between power supply and ground…..

[Erikol]

Maybe somebody could point me in the right direction with the folowing:

I have a HW 44 cable with stc chip (now removed), the same as found on page 3 in the guide that comes with kolimer packages. (Hardware Type HW 0x44Identification : ATMega pins 34 and 35 must be connected to GAL chip.)

Have tried to use the VAGCOM_EEWrite methode but didnt work, so i read almost this complete thread and comprehended that i also needed to cut the STS cip on line 9.
Tried to do this but it failed and i removed the chip in completely.

Question> Do i need to remove also a few other transistors/resistors as stated in this forum? Wich ones because for an example R51 isnt there only R50. Anyone familiar with this board?

When connected to VCDS or VAGCOM_EEWrite.exe i get a no connection error. VCDS does recognice the cable like it is now but it says it's not connected to the car even though it is.

Do i need to flash it with a usb tool? With one can i order best?

Here is my board with the ptc already removed...
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[belkor]

where you removed STS chip try to clean better .....seems to make contact and try:
plug in your cable into OBD socket
open MProg3.5 ...click Device -- Scan.....Number of programmed devices=1.....Tools -- Read and Parse......File --Save(save backup)......File --Open and load ftdi_mprog_BMBL.ept.......Device -- Program

[hid3]

Remove the excess solder.
R50 must stay in place.

[Erikol]

Thanks @hid3 and belkor. Done now. So to flashing of chips is required? all can be done trough the USB cable?