VAG-COM/VCDS EVERYTHING

[liviudiaconu]

Anyone else notices vcds.exe in Autostart (Startup) list??

As i remember, if check "Don't check for updates" in Option screen, VCDS/update not appear in startup.

[andreas11]

Please send me custom firmware. I can test it on stm405 chip

[flyfvdi]

I'm fairly new to VCDS and trying to do the initial research, to find the correct HW base (china-clone). Can you give me an overview or rundown which MCU is recommended? I read there are different versions with STM and ATMEGA..

Can you give me an entrypoint where to start reading this thread?

EDIT: 30min later and self-educated by reading through the thread. Nevermind! :)

buy vcds hex-v2 with STM405 or STM427 or STM429 and VII PLus Loader

[straian]

I can test on my diagnosis. Can you send me the firmware?

[straian]

Yet another WTF moment..


I spent some time making a new debugger for all virtual machines used in the VMProtected VIIPlus loader and to my surprise
I noticed something I did not expect to find. When debugger protection is used in VMProtect the exe will start running
TLS (Thread Local Storage) virtual machine code. The purpose of this code is to check for a debugger and then fix all
imports after all of the exe sections are decrypted.


Output from my DBG:


17 ( 1) 012BD57C: KERNEL32!IsDebuggerPresent(318463B0, 5B5673AF, 7757D4D0, 008FF040).. t:0 tks
18 ( 1) 01153D51: KERNEL32!CheckRemoteDebuggerPresent(FFFFFFFF, 008FF800, 318463B0, 5B5673AF).. t:0 tks
25 ( 1) 012A7338: ntdll!NtQueryInformationProcess(FFFFFFFF, 0000001E, 008FF800, 00000004).. t:0 tks
26 ( 1) 012C03C3: ntdll!NtSetInformationThread(FFFFFFFE, 00000011, 00000000, 00000000).. t:0 tks



So the debugger checks used here is:
1. IsDebuggerPresent
2. CheckRemoteDebuggerPresent
3. NtQueryInformationProcess using the ProcessDebugObjectHandle (0x1E) class
4. NtSetInformationThread using the ThreadHideFromDebugger (0x11) class


When these checks are patched then the exe will run just fine in a debugger.


After this the VM startes fixing all imports:


...
239 (211) 01322F7E: f(01312FC5) (5DCB0000, ...) [5DE3CCC0] GetProcAddress(qt5core!?dynamicMetaObject@QObjectD ata@@QBEPAUQMetaObject@@XZ) t:16 tks
240 (212) 01322F7E: f(01312FC5) (5DCB0000, ...) [5DE39D90] GetProcAddress(qt5core!?activate@QMetaObject@@SAXP AVQObject@@PBU1@HPAPAX@Z) t:16 tks
241 (213) 01322F7E: f(01312FC5) (5DCB0000, ...) [5DD9C140] GetProcAddress(qt5core!?qUnregisterResourceData@@Y A_NHPBE00@Z) t:0 tks
242 (214) 01322F7E: f(01312FC5) (5DCB0000, ...) [5DCFE8D0] GetProcAddress(qt5core!?secsTo@QDateTime@@QBE_JABV 1@@Z) t:0 tks
243 (215) 01322F7E: f(01312FC5) (5DCB0000, ...) [5DD9BFA0] GetProcAddress(qt5core!?qRegisterResourceData@@YA_ NHPBE00@Z) t:0 tks
244 ( 4) 012A1179: KERNEL32!LoadLibraryA(008FF7F0, 0083CA31, 318463B0, 5B5673AF).. t:0 tks
246 (217) 012AA763: f(01312FC5) (10000000, ...) [10005640] GetProcAddress(libeay32!MD5_Update) t:0 tks
247 (218) 012AA763: f(01312FC5) (10000000, ...) [10005740] GetProcAddress(libeay32!MD5_Final) t:0 tks
248 (219) 012AA763: f(01312FC5) (10000000, ...) [10004C90] GetProcAddress(libeay32!MD4_Init) t:16 tks
249 (220) 012AA763: f(01312FC5) (10000000, ...) [10086300] GetProcAddress(libeay32!PEM_read_bio_RSAPrivateKey ) t:16 tks
250 (221) 012AA763: f(01312FC5) (10000000, ...) [100403A0] GetProcAddress(libeay32!RSA_public_decrypt) t:0 tks
251 (222) 012AA763: f(01312FC5) (10000000, ...) [10040380] GetProcAddress(libeay32!RSA_private_encrypt) t:15 tks
252 (223) 012AA763: f(01312FC5) (10000000, ...) [10040350] GetProcAddress(libeay32!RSA_size) t:0 tks
255 (226) 012AA763: f(01312FC5) (10000000, ...) [1001F670] GetProcAddress(libeay32!AES_cbc_encrypt) t:0 tks
256 (227) 012AA763: f(01312FC5) (10000000, ...) [1001BDD0] GetProcAddress(libeay32!AES_set_decrypt_key) t:16 tks
258 (229) 012AA763: f(01312FC5) (10000000, ...) [1001BDC0] GetProcAddress(libeay32!AES_set_encrypt_key) t:0 tks
259 ( 5) 012A1179: KERNEL32!LoadLibraryA(008FF7F0, 008330FE, 318463B0, 5B5673AF).. t:0 tks
260 (230) 01322F7E: f(01312FC5) (5D870000, ...) [5D9F43A0] GetProcAddress(Qt5Widgets!?minimumSizeHint@QDialog @@UBE?AVQSize@@XZ) t:16 tks
261 (231) 01322F7E: f(01312FC5) (5D870000, ...) [5D9A19B0] GetProcAddress(Qt5Widgets!?event@QPushButton@@MAE_ NPAVQEvent@@@Z) t:0 tks
...



Did you see it?


Well I was just as surprised as you are :) And no more explanation is needed..


So here is the private RSA key used for encrypting the first firmware block:


0000 : 00 01 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF | ................
0010 : FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF | ................
0020 : FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF | ................
0030 : FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 | ................
0040 : 55 53 45 52 2D 41 50 50 xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx | USER-APP.7w....|
0050 : xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | C...~...........
0060 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ................
0070 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 04 00 00 00 00 00 | ................


RSA_D: 1303100C439AEB1E113DD61DE1F8375C93B7B5B2ECA85767E6 A6277D3329569B310610B1D3802B1614CEC57772EF902821B0 2DC2B4C38D3AA71F0B5F4CDBC67D4A6D684F32769E3A8C186B 9B86A01DFBFFFE302E845B7B6D50FEF95A2E2825F804FCA7CE 9A8D50CEE0F273E1D5BFD04C4510832B62D7C2A77017283816 E02381
RSA_N: A05BD36EE39292B6ABD97F19E63D0FE81DA9761A91350C1111 879D884A8B5BF0B3463BF5DBD2E1B25F717AB3E7B7E1ADB155 0D35428FD8EE6AEFCE649003CCE83ECBC0642FA5860F247AAD 39C8485B9E8FF2845CE1146FDCFACC3044EDF442F84923F059 FBA47049C22070D5457CCF9B730463C3D42B3764018057A094 6BA25F



I mention previously that I suspected that the 1024 bit data read from the LKT4106 (crypto chip) was RSA encrypted.
And here it is after decryption: (Using yet another RSA key / modulo)


0000 : 00 01 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF | ................
0010 : FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF | ................
0020 : FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF | ................
0030 : FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 | ................
0040 : 4C 4B 54 2D 41 55 54 48 XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX | LKT-AUTH.0..,.k.
0050 : XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX YY YY YY YY YY YY YY YY | ..z]....1X012345 <- Serial number shown in VIIPlus loader
0060 : 33 30 2E 34 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | 30.4............ <- Some date??
0070 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ................


RSA_E: 0x10001
RSA_N: 953E33A52720DA8452CE00ECE471648FEF232211D891FFA65C 3BC042D805320513B6349E81E68FCD5EF343611FDC38051919 66830DD99EE5E3D2F34FB65C24E987949B45A24CFC1F966193 D17BD6BD328E44A83F4D1078C673803AFF8A61E9CA3BB34196 279C9EC233123FFC6F160F289A70FA050C64EA896766A0AB6D 5C872D



Again I have removed some data that could related to my interface. My guessing is yet another MD5 etc.


So now we can create a custom firmware for this interface which I already did.
My firmware will convert the interface to a mass storage device (USB drive) and will show up as a drive letter in your OS.
You can then copy out the content for so to create a folder called "REBOOT". Once this is detected, one of the LED's will start
flashing yellow for 10 sec for so to erase itself. You can now use VIIPlus loader to reflash any firmware.
The important content will be the UID and the LKT4106 RSA data. The private key to create this is not (I don't think it is) present
in the exe so this is needed to be able to launch VCDS using VIIPlus loader. Some one with a broken device can share this so that
other 415 users can use the loader.

I can test on my diagnosis. Can you send me the firmware?

[skiocink]

Hi, is the vcdsloader 9.2 capable to upgrade a 15.7.4 China cable?

[kaalis]

yes, if it contains required hardware.

[skiocink]

Thanks kaalis.
Atmega162 and ftdi chips are present

[skiocink]

Solved.
Flashed first the ftdi chip, then the atmega.
Now the firmware is 1.96 and the Kolimer 9.2 loader seems to work nice with 22.3.1 eng version

[Pofi87]

Hi. Can someone help to locate EE_Write HWtype etc . Progs to bring back to life a cable what recognised by vcds , but as its connected to 12v not recognised. Atmega162 and ftdi chip .Thanks Laz.

[kaalis]

no viruses !!!

[Pick509]

hmmm trojan....

[ganobi]

hmmm trojan....

Don't touch the cable, it's
infected, hmmm trojan....

[miouser]

Last edited by gmb45; Today at 08:32 PM. Reason: removed dodgy linkcrazy Moderator :dead:


hmmm trojan....
Buy Original RT Interface and don't use any DK community solutions!

[bg17aw]

Anyone with a broken VIIPlus 405 interface that want to be the first guinea pig testing my custom firmware?
(Broken like a fried CAN chip or 5v regulator but still answering on USB)
Send me a PM if you want to try it out.
I don't know if this one qualifies? It always says "Illegal device. The device is locked"

Or maybe someone has any idea why it is not working anymore, what to test?

Anyway, I can try anything on it, I already bought another one.

[flyfvdi]

I don't know if this one qualifies? It always says "Illegal device. The device is locked"

Or maybe someone has any idea why it is not working anymore, what to test?

Anyway, I can try anything on it, I already bought another one.

contact fly zhang engineer to solve it.

[badrax]

I don't know if this one qualifies? It always says "Illegal device. The device is locked"

Or maybe someone has any idea why it is not working anymore, what to test?

Anyway, I can try anything on it, I already bought another one.

If you are sure that this is a VIIPlus loader 405 interface then yes. But pleas check your interface and make sure. A lot of users have contacted me with the same info and it turns out that they have the early "415" version that came with a 405 chip.
Please share a picture of your PCB.

[sppeedy]

Hello,
I flash my vcds cable from version 1.84 to 1.96,
and now to get the cable to work I have to connect it several times to the car. Mostly the diode in the cable lights up on the 3rd or 4th connection. Could someone help me with my problem?

[bg17aw]

If you are sure that this is a VIIPlus loader 405 interface then yes. But pleas check your interface and make sure. A lot of users have contacted me with the same info and it turns out that they have the early "415" version that came with a 405 chip.
Please share a picture of your PCB.
100% sure is a 405.
When you say "with the same info", do you mean they had the same error? I am curious what could have happened to this interface. From my tests with another good interface, seems like this error message ("Illegal device. The device is locked") appears when there is no 12 volt present.

[Gimse]

@bg17aw

Uninstall the software you installed, do the same with VIIPLUSLOADER and reinstall them again. I assume that you want to run the software in English through VIIPLUSLOADER, so at the beginning check for installing drivers and the 32-bit extension in addition to the others already checked. Add the Ross Tech folder and the ViiPlusLoader folder from Programs Files (x86) to exceptions in the antivirus program. When I say anti-virus program, I mean either a dedicated one (Kaspersky, Norton, etc.) or Windows defender antivirus. Check before your antivirus program has already blocked any file related to VCDS or VIIPlusLoader that you need to restore it and give it permission. When you do the test, you must connect the interface to the car, to the laptop and turn on the ignition or start the engine. If you do all of the above it should work. If it doesn't work, try to rewrite the interface with an older firmware and then rewrite the latest one again. Likewise, check with which software version you last opened VIIPLUSLOADER and try to juggle with another version. There are several factors, but take them one by one.

[badrax]

100% sure is a 405.
When you say "with the same info", do you mean they had the same error? I am curious what could have happened to this interface. From my tests with another good interface, seems like this error message ("Illegal device. The device is locked") appears when there is no 12 volt present.

Yes it is a 405 but it is not a VIIPlus 405. This version will most likely only "support" VCDS 20.4.1
But you can upgrade it to run the VIIPlus firmware that I have shared.
If you have access to a real VIIPlus loader 405 then you can extract the LKT-AUTH from it and use on this device. This will allow you to launch VCDS using VIIPlus loader which is required for it to work with this firmware.
If you compare your photos with a real VIIPlus 405 you will see that they have different layout. Your interface is also missing the LKT4106 crypto chip which is also an indication that this is not a VIIPlus 405.

[bg17aw]

Thank you, you are right, I tried without the loader and it seem to work with 12v from a powersupply (did not tried it on a car yet). I am attaching a pic with the test result



If you have access to a real VIIPlus loader 405 then you can extract the LKT-AUTH from it and use on this device.
I do have another interface that works fine with the VIIPlus loader. Is that all I need? And would you be willing to hold my hand through the process? I would not be able to do this by myself

[badrax]

Thank you, you are right, I tried without the loader and it seem to work with 12v from a powersupply (did not tried it on a car yet). I am attaching a pic with the test result


I do have another interface that works fine with the VIIPlus loader. Is that all I need? And would you be willing to hold my hand through the process? I would not be able to do this by myself

Yes of course I can hold your hand :)
Send me a PM with your contact info (email) and I will send you the tool you need to extract the LKT data.
But you will have to send the LKT data back to me so that I can make you a new firmware.

[heshamzn]

Me too Need someone to hold My hands in the same issue with chip end 429 i tried every thing that u can imagine

[mjessup]

I was hoping someone could help me get the software working, I think I need to flash a update to my hexv2.
It is a clone, I was surprised to see it have the logo on the motherboard. Any guidance or links to software to try would be greatly appreciated, the seller I got this from is now banned on aliexpress :(
https://i.ibb.co/WGm5qPy/IMG-2209.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Ws1pRRT/IMG-2208.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/tzxp5Dz/IMG-2207.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/86mY9ZK/IMG-2299-01.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/5GwrYL4/IMG-2298-01.jpg

Edit, feel free to dm if you'd like my email to help guide me through this. Thanks again guys

[ramarc669]

Your cable will only support VCDS ver 20.4.1

[mjessup]

Thanks, do I need to reflash it still?
badrax game me instructions on how to put the STM32 chip into DFU mode to clear it and then reflash it.

[flyfvdi]

I was hoping someone could help me get the software working, I think I need to flash a update to my hexv2.
It is a clone, I was surprised to see it have the logo on the motherboard. Any guidance or links to software to try would be greatly appreciated, the seller I got this from is now banned on aliexpress :(
https://i.ibb.co/WGm5qPy/IMG-2209.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Ws1pRRT/IMG-2208.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/tzxp5Dz/IMG-2207.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/86mY9ZK/IMG-2299-01.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/5GwrYL4/IMG-2298-01.jpg

Edit, feel free to dm if you'd like my email to help guide me through this. Thanks again guys

IC is stm415

[mjessup]

IC is stm415

Update, huge thank you to @Badrax !!! He gave me directions on how to put my interface in DFU mode by connecting the 3.3v pin to the boot pin, and provided a file to re-flash it.

I am working on VCDS 23.3 using the VIIPlus loader.

If your having troubles reach out to him. I was so close to buying a new interface. I'm so happy I found this forum. THANK YOU!

[flyfvdi]

Update, huge thank you to @Badrax !!! He gave me directions on how to put my interface in DFU mode by connecting the 3.3v pin to the boot pin, and provided a file to re-flash it.

I am working on VCDS 23.3 using the VIIPlus loader.

If your having troubles reach out to him. I was so close to buying a new interface. I'm so happy I found this forum. THANK YOU!


is your vcds hex-v2 with stm 415 ? all functions work well ?

[ramarc669]

is your vcds hex-v2 with stm 415 ? all functions work well ?

They do with Badrax’s firmware 😉

[mjessup]

is your vcds hex-v2 with stm 415 ? all functions work well ?

Yep, everything worked for me. Was able to scan all modules and do some adaptations.

[flyfvdi]

Yep, everything worked for me. Was able to scan all modules and do some adaptations.

Your cable only support VCDS ver 20.4.1 ？ the latest vcds version is 23.03.0

[mjessup]

Your cable only support VCDS ver 20.4.1 ？ the latest vcds version is 23.03.0

Had no issues with the cable on 23.3

[flyfvdi]

How is the vcds hex-v2 ATMGA162 ?

955483955484


fake vcds hex-v2, just put vcds hex-v1 pcb into vcds hex-v2 shell.

[Gimse]

How is the vcds hex-v2 ATMGA162 ?

955483955484


Is very good for VAG cars 1996-2015

[flyfvdi]

Is very good for VAG cars 1996-2015

yes, just vcds hex-v1 functions.

[hid3]

i have fly company vcds hex-v2 stm429 viiplusloader, works well, great!

haha, joke of the day :)

Does Security Access work with it? :)

[Lolo4321]

Imagine if badrax and Kolimer team up

[kaalis]

Yes, Security Access works well, wonderful
That B7 is old dinosaur, try with 2020-2022 cars.

[flyfvdi]

That B7 is old dinosaur, try with 2020-2022 cars.

what is B7?

[wiechec]

what is B7?

Audi A4 B7

[flyfvdi]

Audi A4 B7

flyfvdi vcds hex-v2 viiplusloader stm32f429 can do Audi A4 B7 Security Access

[flyfvdi]

1.vcds hex-v2 ATMEGA162 just can do 1996-2015 old cars，without loader，can not update freely, support one language, put vcds hex-v1 PCB board into vcds hex-v2 shell.
2.vcds hex-v2 STM32f415 can not update freely, without loader, can not do Security Access, support one language.
3.flyfvdi vcds hex-v2 viiplusloader stm32f429, update freely, with loader, can do Security Access, multi-language support.

[constantinexx]

Hi there

i have 22.3.1 Vag com clone , suddenly stopen working , the device is recognized by VCDS but when i try to open something nothing happens ,
i downloaded the HWtype and the other tools to check
Bootloader is enabled and i could flsh the firmware it was 1.96 0x46 the problem is after flashing i get a ROD internal error i can communicate with the Modules but that message keeps popping out
can some one help ??

[constantinexx]

problem is sorted now thanks
downloaded the laatest software from official vcds replaced the files keeping koilmer patch worked as charm again

[flyfvdi]

problem is sorted now thanks
downloaded the laatest software from official vcds replaced the files keeping koilmer patch worked as charm again

what is kolimer patch ?

[drdahmani2]

956999957004 I found this pinout for stm32F415

[drdahmani2]

I found 957014 pinout for stm32F405 but not tested either

[heshamzn]

this pinout to connect stm with what device ?

[drdahmani2]

With ST-link

[heshamzn]

stm32F429 Also got stm32F415 but don't know what software to use 957208
i mean where is vdd and pb3 on my sv link ?

[drdahmani2]

957329



This is the datasheet pinout

regarding the connection to the stlink (I did not test it) but we can seek support from the Pro on this forum

[wiechec]

New version (23.3.1) released.

https://dltemp.ross-tech.com/VCDS/download/R6E5A1/VCDS-Release-23.3.1-Installer.exe

[flyfvdi]

New version (23.3.1) released.

https://dltemp.ross-tech.com/VCDS/download/R6E5A1/VCDS-Release-23.3.1-Installer.exe

yes ，flyfvdi vcds hex-v2 will update it soon

[ali0]

1.vcds hex-v2 ATMEGA162 just can do 1996-2015 old cars，without loader，can not update freely, support one language, put vcds hex-v1 PCB board into vcds hex-v2 shell.
2.vcds hex-v2 STM32f415 can not update freely, without loader, can not do Security Access, support one language.
3.flyfvdi vcds hex-v2 viiplusloader stm32f429, update freely, with loader, can do Security Access, multi-language support.
what is the status for stm32f405? what is the difference from 429?

[Billyym]

[EDIT. The cables are in fact 405! Not 415 as stated!]

Just received some of the STM415 cables. The ones that are basically 'non update'.

However, they've been ripped with the new chinese firmware that allows them to work with 23.3.1 with latest firmware. And can also use the latest viiplusloader.

If anyone does plan on buying these. Just remember. You will need to use Viiplusloader as security access won't work with Just the regular \/cds software.

In order to get them to work correctly. You'll need to install vcds 32bit version not the 64bit.

Then install latest Viiplusloader. And use that to launch the software for you.

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[badrax]

Just received some of the STM415 cables


Can you check and see which RDP level they are set to?



Then install latest Viiplusloader. And use that to launch the software for you.


Make sure you only use it for launching!
If you start a firmware upgrade you will be flashing an unpatched firmware that wont run on this cable.
The unpatched firmware might also lock the STM to RDP2 so you won't be able to re flash it using the ST-Slink programmer or in DFU mode.

[heshamzn]

how to flash it using st link can badrax show me how ? to flash it plz

[flyfvdi]

what is the status for stm32f405? what is the difference from 429?

flyfvdi vcds hex-v2 use stm32f405 and stm32f429 and viiplusloader

[flyfvdi]

[EDIT. The cables are in fact 405! Not 415 as stated!]

Just received some of the STM415 cables. The ones that are basically 'non update'.

However, they've been ripped with the new chinese firmware that allows them to work with 23.3.1 with latest firmware. And can also use the latest viiplusloader.

If anyone does plan on buying these. Just remember. You will need to use Viiplusloader as security access won't work with Just the regular \/cds software.

In order to get them to work correctly. You'll need to install vcds 32bit version not the 64bit.

Then install latest Viiplusloader. And use that to launch the software for you.

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wrong, wrong,wrong

[flyfvdi]

[EDIT. The cables are in fact 405! Not 415 as stated!]

Just received some of the STM415 cables. The ones that are basically 'non update'.

However, they've been ripped with the new chinese firmware that allows them to work with 23.3.1 with latest firmware. And can also use the latest viiplusloader.

If anyone does plan on buying these. Just remember. You will need to use Viiplusloader as security access won't work with Just the regular \/cds software.

In order to get them to work correctly. You'll need to install vcds 32bit version not the 64bit.

Then install latest Viiplusloader. And use that to launch the software for you.

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flyfvdi vcds hex-v2 will update to V23.3.1 after a week，about betwwen 2023-5-1 and 2023-5-7

rewrite the firmware and viiplusloader.

[TechMonkey]

So to be clear, are we saying the STM415 can now be updated from 20.4.1 to 23.3.1 using VII Plus Loader?

[badrax]

So to be clear, are we saying the STM415 can now be updated from 20.4.1 to 23.3.1 using VII Plus Loader?

You can not use VIIPlus loader to do the update. You will have to manually update your 415 in DFU mode or use ST-Link programmer.
VIIPlus loader has basically to functions and they are:
1. Upgrade to latest firmware
2. Launch and patch VCDS so it wont detect the clone.

For your 415 then only nr. 2 will work.
However there is nothing stopping you from upgrading (of course after flashing manually first) your 415 using VIIPlus loader and if you do your interface will stop working.
I have not tried this but in works case the not working firmware will set RDP2 preventing you from flashing again in DFU or ST-Link.

[TechMonkey]

You can not use VIIPlus loader to do the update. You will have to manually update your 415 in DFU mode or use ST-Link programmer.
VIIPlus loader has basically to functions and they are:
1. Upgrade to latest firmware
2. Launch and patch VCDS so it wont detect the clone.

For your 415 then only nr. 2 will work.
However there is nothing stopping you from upgrading (of course after flashing manually first) your 415 using VIIPlus loader and if you do your interface will stop working.
I have not tried this but in works case the not working firmware will set RDP2 preventing you from flashing again in DFU or ST-Link.

Ok makes sense, where do I go to get the DFU and ST-Link from?

Thanks

[badrax]

Ok makes sense, where do I go to get the DFU and ST-Link from?

Thanks

DFU is not something you can get. It is what the STM32F4xx supports and is called "Device Firmware Upgrade" over USB.
So you set the boot0 pin high and then power the STM.
This will start the internal bootloader and you can now use the STM32Cube Programmer to program it.
(Select USB from the blue drop down list. Then Refresh and Connect)

ST-Link is a debugger you connect to the Hex-V2 debug pins and to PC-USB
SWDIO
SWCLK
GND
3.3v
You can use the same tool to program the STM or you can get the STM32 ST-Link Utility.
(Select ST-Link from the blue drop down list. Then Refresh and Connect)

You will have to buy the debugger if you don't have one. Look it up on Ali or ebay.
But make sure that your debugger actually output 3.3v and not 5v. If any higher the 3.3v you will damage the STM.
You can drop the 3.3v from the debugger and draw power from USB. This is probably the best and safest way!

Both of these methods will only work if the chip is set to:
RDP0 - not protected
RDP1 - read protected but erase is possible (You will have to erase first to be able to set RDP0)

If however the chip is set to RDP2 then non of this will work. Bood0 is disabled and so is the debug interface.

You can get the software for free from the ST home page.

[TechMonkey]

DFU is not something you can get. It is what the STM32F4xx supports and is called "Device Firmware Upgrade" over USB.
So you set the boot0 pin high and then power the STM.
This will start the internal bootloader and you can now use the STM32Cube Programmer to program it.
(Select USB from the blue drop down list. Then Refresh and Connect)

Ahh I see, thanks for the explanation ill have a look into it
ST-Link is a debugger you connect to the Hex-V2 debug pins and to PC-USB
SWDIO
SWCLK
GND
3.3v
You can use the same tool to program the STM or you can get the STM32 ST-Link Utility.
(Select ST-Link from the blue drop down list. Then Refresh and Connect)

You will have to buy the debugger if you don't have one. Look it up on Ali or ebay.
But make sure that your debugger actually output 3.3v and not 5v. If any higher the 3.3v you will damage the STM.
You can drop the 3.3v from the debugger and draw power from USB. This is probably the best and safest way!

Both of these methods will only work if the chip is set to:
RDP0 - not protected
RDP1 - read protected but erase is possible (You will have to erase first to be able to set RDP0)

If however the chip is set to RDP2 then non of this will work. Bood0 is disabled and so is the debug interface.

You can get the software for free from the ST home page.

Ahh ok thanks for the explanation, I'll look into this further

[Billyym]

Right, right, right.

On AliE, sellers are selling new versions of the 20.4.1 stm32f415 cables. Which now use Badraxs firmware. They sell both variants of stm32f415 and stm32f405 which cannot be updated that are now using 23.3. Not your stm32f405 Fly V2 cables.

I know this, as I've spoken to Badrax and have provided some files from my own personal cables. And so have some others who have sent him files.

I have also erased the stm32f405 chip using stm programmer. And have manually flashed the firmware which is on the new chinese clones. And it has worked.

These cables however, can also use the Viiplusloader which sellers are not mentioning on their pages as they most likely don't even know.

And it seems like you also are not aware. So don't say 'wrong, wrong, wrong' like a child. Message properly and maybe you'll get some answers and most importantly facts.

[kventis]

Okay basically Ill just sum up my research / how to:

#1 Order tool from reputable supplier https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=3575874#post3575874
option 2 without usb thingy. I ordered with the usb module due to not knowing any better. You dont really need it, unless you have an older/other cable you want to mess with
Delivery took 12 days to UK, not working days. Ordered 27/12, dispatch and tracking 31/12, received 08/01, so quite quick during this busy? period.
#2 while you wait for your delivery find loader https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=3639906&viewfull=1#post3639906 link 3 works 08/01/20
#3 download and install vcds from official website or find a version you want
#4 Once you have the tool heres a video of installation https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=3574522&viewfull=1#post3574522
All the files are located in the loader you downloaded in #2
You can skip video to 2;26 and just do VAGCOM_HWType check and if results match continue with VAGCOM_EEwrite.. flash. Once thats done copy loader into vcds, start VCDS with the loader you just copied and then just test the cable you bought. All was good to go in my case. Researching this took way longer than the actual install.

Hope this helped some, I sure could used this when I was going through it

Guys Im really hard pressed for time now cannot physically go through 3000+ posts.. so basically my old laptop broke.. and Im redownloading this again. is there any way of getting newer vcds software on the older ( 2020 atmega162 i believe? from OBD2CarTool)? Any chance somebody could do something similar to what I did ages ago and sum it up for me if there is a possiblity? Thanks in advance

Edit that was for vcds 19.6.1 version by the way with kolimer 9.20..

what throws me off i see these VII plus / badrax loaders popping up

[Daku11]

Hi,

Probably strange question, but is it possible to use VCDS as passthru to only send/receive CAN commands ?
I saw that some apps can do it w/o change to "Dumb mode" in settings, that method works on interfaces with Atmega162 inside.

For now i can read FTDI informations / eeprom but what to do next ? import DLL ?

Greetings,
Daku

[APNT1984]

Hi,
What's the main differences between the vcds 21.9 and latest versions or how can we find the Change log,?
If 21.9 works on clone cables with security code accepted, even without ladder, why should we install the latest version ? Is any significant different or just company block clones cable in any single update.?

[Col19]

Hi friends


I have a 405 cable sleeping in the closet because of a blocking error, hope is reborn thanks to BADRAX the king.


Thank you so much.

[Sam 72]

Skoda Octavia
Hello friends
I need help with long code for ABS control unit Skoda Octavia 1.4 tsi 2011,
I lost the code when i disconnect and connect the cluster again, now it show all zeros
The VIN number is :
TMBHJ61Z7B2162134
Any idea?
Thanks

[straian]

Hello there is a new loader for V2 23.3.1 VCDS? Thanks

[straian]

Odis Service and buy 1 hour Geko account to do online coding and adaptation. Me I do for airbag unit

[straian]

Skoda Octavia
Hello friends
I need help with long code for ABS control unit Skoda Octavia 1.4 tsi 2011,
I lost the code when i disconnect and connect the cluster again, now it show all zeros
The VIN number is :
TMBHJ61Z7B2162134
Any idea?
Thanks

Odis Service and buy 1 hour Geko account to do online coding and adaptation. Me I do for airbag unit

[StanNB]

Hello there is a new loader for V2 23.3.1 VCDS? Thanks

Yes, 08.022.05.

https://filecrypt.cc/Container/026FDDEDCB.html

[straian]

Thanks you dont have another link because I have to wait 180 minutes to download.

[straian]

Yes, 08.022.05.

https://filecrypt.cc/Container/026FDDEDCB.html

Thanks you dont have another link because I have to wait 180 minutes to download.

[StanNB]

180 seconds, 3 minutes.

[straian]

180 seconds, 3 minutes.
First tine give error download and second time it say to wait 180 minutes.

[straian]

180 seconds, 3 minutes.
I try with another PC and download start in 3 minute. Thanks

[wiechec]

Yes, 08.022.05.

https://filecrypt.cc/Container/026FDDEDCB.html


08.22.05 is for 22.3.1 not 23.3.1

[straian]

180 seconds, 3 minutes.
I download the new loader. Install, update the firmware of my vcds with 405 chip but VCDS dont work. It see that the diagnose have license but when I press Gateway Installation list it say Function not supported.
Also VCDS say that I need firmware update

[StanNB]

I dont use the VIIPlus crap anymore. But I'm sure another user will help you.

[straian]

Thanks you dont have another link because I have to wait 180 minutes to download.
This loader is not good for 23.3.1 Now I see is number 08.22.05 and must be 08.23.xx

[StanNB]

Sorry, give me 2 minutes.

EDIT: 08.023.02

https://filecrypt.cc/Container/CBDEF134D3.html

[wiechec]

Sorry, give me 2 minutes.

EDIT: 08.023.02

https://filecrypt.cc/Container/CBDEF134D3.html


08.023.02 is for 23.3.0. There's no loader for 23.3.1 yet.

[StanNB]

Have tried VIIPlusLoader-08.023.02 on VCDS 23.3.1 its working.

From another board.

[straian]

From another board.
Now i try and work. Thanks

[badrax]

VCDS 23.3.1 does not require a firmware upgrade (it will work with CB:4631) so VIIPlus loader for 23.3 will work but it will not be able to decrypt UDS messages.
In your scan log you will see something like this:

13697024 - Component Protection
U1100 00 [009] - No Basic Setting
[Tip-TNF 231499]

instead of:

13697024 - Component Protection
U1100 00 [009] - No Basic Setting
[Komponentenschutz keine oder falsche Grundeinstellung bzw. Adaption]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

VCDS will of course know that you are missing the decrypt key and might do other strange things.

Every version of VCDS is using a different key that only a genuine interface can calculate.
The calculation is done by sending a MAC message to the external crypto chip and without this key it will be "impossible" to calc this response.
The response will have to be ripped from a genuine interface and hard coded into the VIIPlus firmware.
This is why VIIPlus loader need an update to fully work with VCDS 23.3.1

For VCDS 23.3.1 ENG the Challenge is:
0xFD, 0x9D, 0x98, 0x3B, 0xDF, 0x6B, 0x0E, 0x01, 0x01, 0x10, 0xEC, 0x79, 0x80, 0xB0, 0xEC, 0x76, 0xCE, 0x04, 0xC0, 0x01, 0xD8, 0x09, 0x85, 0x02, 0x09, 0x9E, 0x0E, 0x1E, 0x9D, 0x3C, 0x76, 0x27

and the response is:
0xED, 0x57, 0xB1, 0x21, 0xBC, 0xB0, 0x04, 0x72, 0xDE, 0x15, 0x02, 0xF3, 0x43, 0x79, 0x97, 0x10, 0x00, 0xCE, 0xE2, 0x6D, 0x30, 0x49, 0x0E, 0x1D, 0x46, 0xFD, 0xD6, 0xB9, 0xA9, 0x14, 0x3B, 0x87

[straian]

ok. Thanks. I will put back 23.3.0.

[StanNB]

VCDS 23.3.1 does not require a firmware upgrade (it will work with CB:4631) so VIIPlus loader for 23.3 will work but it will not be able to decrypt UDS messages.

Ask the Professional 👍

Btw: It seems that there are issues with Security Access in the EN VCDS since 22.9.0 up to 23.3.1. Its recommend to use the 32bit Version of VCDS on 64bit Windows, always with loader.

[heshamzn]

im about to do it is there any soft to flash it ? always got eeror when i try to connect usb can u send file to other stm 415 ? to update it960221960222

[TechMonkey]

Anyone have the 405 and 415 update files to program with ST-Link to work with 23.3?

[flyfvdi]

FLY will release new viiplusloader and new firmware to support VCDS V23.3.1 soon

[flyfvdi]

VCDS 23.3.1 does not require a firmware upgrade (it will work with CB:4631) so VIIPlus loader for 23.3 will work but it will not be able to decrypt UDS messages.
In your scan log you will see something like this:

13697024 - Component Protection
U1100 00 [009] - No Basic Setting
[Tip-TNF 231499]

instead of:

13697024 - Component Protection
U1100 00 [009] - No Basic Setting
[Komponentenschutz keine oder falsche Grundeinstellung bzw. Adaption]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

VCDS will of course know that you are missing the decrypt key and might do other strange things.

Every version of VCDS is using a different key that only a genuine interface can calculate.
The calculation is done by sending a MAC message to the external crypto chip and without this key it will be "impossible" to calc this response.
The response will have to be ripped from a genuine interface and hard coded into the VIIPlus firmware.
This is why VIIPlus loader need an update to fully work with VCDS 23.3.1

For VCDS 23.3.1 ENG the Challenge is:
0xFD, 0x9D, 0x98, 0x3B, 0xDF, 0x6B, 0x0E, 0x01, 0x01, 0x10, 0xEC, 0x79, 0x80, 0xB0, 0xEC, 0x76, 0xCE, 0x04, 0xC0, 0x01, 0xD8, 0x09, 0x85, 0x02, 0x09, 0x9E, 0x0E, 0x1E, 0x9D, 0x3C, 0x76, 0x27

and the response is:
0xED, 0x57, 0xB1, 0x21, 0xBC, 0xB0, 0x04, 0x72, 0xDE, 0x15, 0x02, 0xF3, 0x43, 0x79, 0x97, 0x10, 0x00, 0xCE, 0xE2, 0x6D, 0x30, 0x49, 0x0E, 0x1D, 0x46, 0xFD, 0xD6, 0xB9, 0xA9, 0x14, 0x3B, 0x87

why you do not crack ross-tech vcds hex-v2 ?

[drdahmani2]

im about to do it is there any soft to flash it ? always got eeror when i try to connect usb can u send file to other stm 415 ? to update it960221960222


it's difficult (only few knows )
because the debug interface (which you are connecting your pins) is diasabled by the firmware (set to RDP2_)

[TechMonkey]

Asked same question lol

[flyfvdi]

You should crack ross-tech vcds hex-v2 firmware and software, you're the one to be admired

[miouser]

someone already success try to unlock SFD on MQB2020 with hex-v2 (viiplusloader)?

i found that sfd tokens can be generated on vaglogins.com up to 5 dollars

[badrax]

why you do not crack ross-tech vcds hex-v2 ?

What makes you think I have not already done so

[flyfvdi]

What makes you think I have not already done so

yes, you can not crack ross-tech vcds hex-v2, the whole world knows it. because you can not directly use the original ross-tech vcds hex-v2 firmware and vcds software.

can you prove it to us ?

you are fluky only.

your technique is just so so.

everyone know chinese stm 415 vcds hex-v2 is crap.

[badrax]

yes, you can not crack ross-tech vcds hex-v2, the whole world knows it.


Not the whole world but most of the world



because you can not directly use the original ross-tech vcds hex-v2 firmware and vcds software.


How do you know that you can't use the firmware directly?
Do you have it and are unable to use it?

[StanNB]

yes, you can not crack ross-tech vcds hex-v2, the whole world knows it. because you can not directly use the original ross-tech vcds hex-v2 firmware and vcds software.

can you prove it to us ?

you are fluky only.

your technique is just so so.

everyone know chinese stm 415 vcds hex-v2 is crap.


Sorry fly, but you know nothing! Last year we had contact by team viewer in case of a problem with VII Plus and VCDS. And your solution? There is no! You don’t have the skills to engineer anything! Who build’s the Loader? Is it you? Ask your russian friends!

People with knowledge of RT firmware (they are rare) knows that the 415 is the best PCB for the VCDS. And yes, my 415 runs with 1:1 RT FW, without any loader and without any issues! VII Plus is crap!!

So pls stop talking sht about people who have much more skill’s then u have!

[Billyym]

HAHAHAHAHA, Fly you are completely lost. Badrax has achieved something you clearly are failing to do so.

As 'You' can see, a lot of people are vouching for Badrax, proving he has made it work with the 415 Cables. Without the need of Viiplusloader or any loader in that case.

How do we know it works?, because we have tested it and its working amazing.

Also, you only want him to publicly share his work with you so you can make profit on it. There's literally no other reason for why you're so desperate. If he shares his work, are you willing to cut costs? What are you willing to do for the people in general?. That's right absolutely nothing!.

Just carry on making your 405 Viiplusloader clones.

[flyfvdi]

Thank you for being so concerned about fly vcds hex-v2 and advertise it.

[flyfvdi]

Not the whole world but most of the world



How do you know that you can't use the firmware directly?
Do you have it and are unable to use it?


fly will release new firmware and new viiplusloader(vcds software v23.3.1) for fly vcds hex-v2 next week and welcome to continue research.

you can't get away with it again.

[flyfvdi]

chinese stm415 vcds hex-v2 can not do security access, everyone on earth knows that


it can not support multi-language


it can not update freely


fly vcds hex-v2 are selling 100 usd, how much is chinese stm415 vcds hex-v2?


why do you crack fly vcds hex-v2? if chinese stm415 vcds hex-v2 is the best, why are you using fly vcds hex-v2 firmware and viiplusloader with chinese stm415 vcds hex-v2？


such a strange chinese stm415 vcds hex-v2 with fly vcds hex-v2 firmware and viiplusloader.


can you continue use the latest fly vcds hex-v2 firmware and viiplusloader ?


we will wait and see.

Thank you for helping me prove fly vcds hex-v2 is the best. fly vcds hex-v2 has the same functions with ross-tech vcds hex-v2, but it is cheap.

[MrDerv]

someone already success try to unlock SFD on MQB2020 with hex-v2 (viiplusloader)?

i found that sfd tokens can be generated on vaglogins.com up to 5 dollars
SFD unlock for newer models is not something that is available yet. More info here: https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/36440/

RT is working on a subscription based model that will allow SFD operation on 2020+ cars that require SFD for basic functions such as rear brake caliper unwind for pad replacement

OBDEleven have a working solution, but their software is subscription based too

[StanNB]

can you continue use the latest fly vcds hex-v2 firmware and viiplusloader ?
we will wait and see.


Dont need that crap cause 1:1 RT OFW. :ciao:

Meanwhile: Enjoying my fully working 4.15. *inyourface*

960762

[flyfvdi]

Dont need that crap cause 1:1 RT OFW. :ciao:

Meanwhile: Enjoying my fully working 4.15. *inyourface*

960762

thank you very much，fly vcds hex-v2 can do security access. you can prove.

[MrDerv]

Dont need that crap cause 1:1 RT OFW. :ciao:

Meanwhile: Enjoying my fully working 4.15. *inyourface*

960762
registriert auf lollol

[flyfvdi]

registriert auf lollol

Thank you for letting more people know about fly vcds hex-v2.

[MrDerv]

Thank you for letting more people know about fly vcds hex-v2.
Either you can't read, or you don't give a flying f---

[miouser]

SFD unlock for newer models is not something that is available yet.
my question is about this function
https://i121.fastpic.org/big/2023/0509/2f/3ad86c8f3267349568ec71ef2f0af52f.png (https://fastpic.org/view/121/2023/0509/3ad86c8f3267349568ec71ef2f0af52f.png.html)

https://i121.fastpic.org/big/2023/0509/fd/aed81047dee6265fb667486e894feffd.png (https://fastpic.org/view/121/2023/0509/aed81047dee6265fb667486e894feffd.png.html)

[StanNB]

Deine Frage wurde doch oben beantwortet. Ohne gültigen Token funktioniert da nichts.

[miouser]

@StanNB

vaglogins schwört dass deren Tokens gültig sind.


we doing 50+ generations per day, all works good
....
no any errors found on our side. in last 15000 calculations no errors. its retreived direct from vag server....
...
try with odis

[StanNB]

Ok. Dann bleibt ja nicht mehr viel übrig. Also entweder unterstützt VCDS oder das Stg. die Funktion nicht. Könnte aber auch am Loader liegen, falls du den benutzt.

[HV635]

Hello, i have clone clone i think VAG219 Dual-K & CAN USB and it work good with VCDS 21.9 and Kolimer x86 v9.2, and it not used for couple months and when i wan't use it again connect all good to USB and car and CAN, all i OK but whan i want open any modul it only cricle 1-2 sec and nothing, i can't do auto-scan. I see in ABOUT tab that license is Revoke. Is any way to fix that... I'm not professional user of that i use it for my Passat B6... Thanks....

[Centautian]

I am considering buying VAG clone on Ali and I'm not sure about differences. I need it for 2020 Fabia 3, so I understand that cheapest Atmega 162 versions won't work on my car. But what about those? What is the difference?

B03-ST/STM32F405: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrtkc5a

STM32F415:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mq5WZF6
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMVZLee

STM32F429:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOfgDhq
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOWJmZK

Any reason to use expensive one? I don't need updates, but it would be great to use localized version. Or any other recommendation? I can flash with j-link/st-link.

[liviudiaconu]

Hello, i have clone clone i think VAG219 Dual-K & CAN USB and it work good with VCDS 21.9 and Kolimer x86 v9.2, and it not used for couple months and when i wan't use it again connect all good to USB and car and CAN, all i OK but whan i want open any modul it only cricle 1-2 sec and nothing, i can't do auto-scan. I see in ABOUT tab that license is Revoke. Is any way to fix that... I'm not professional user of that i use it for my Passat B6... Thanks....

1. 20.4.1 is the last version VCDS working well with Kolimer loader. After this version "Revoked" will appear soon or later. Is from .exe, not from internet communications, because i have rules on firewall for block all in/out .exe files from VCDS
2. For repair can use the Writer from Kolimer package or, if not work, an external programmer

[HV635]

1. 20.4.1 is the last version VCDS working well with Kolimer loader. After this version "Revoked" will appear soon or later. Is from .exe, not from internet communications, because i have rules on firewall for block all in/out .exe files from VCDS
2. For repair can use the Writer from Kolimer package or, if not work, an external programmer

Okay i don't know that, where i can download 20.4.1 VCDS and Kolimer loader ?

[MrDerv]

I am considering buying VAG clone on Ali and I'm not sure about differences. I need it for 2020 Fabia 3, so I understand that cheapest Atmega 162 versions won't work on my car. But what about those? What is the difference?

B03-ST/STM32F405: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrtkc5a

STM32F415:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mq5WZF6
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMVZLee

STM32F429:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOfgDhq
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOWJmZK

Any reason to use expensive one? I don't need updates, but it would be great to use localized version. Or any other recommendation? I can flash with j-link/st-link.
I bought what i thought to be STM32F409 controller, but was sent STM32F429 instead. So far, i've not had any issues, and connected to a few cars. Long coding works, and security access. Software version is 22.10.
Ali seller has since pulled the listing, so cannot post a link to it sorry

[flyfvdi]

I am considering buying VAG clone on Ali and I'm not sure about differences. I need it for 2020 Fabia 3, so I understand that cheapest Atmega 162 versions won't work on my car. But what about those? What is the difference?

B03-ST/STM32F405: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrtkc5a

STM32F415:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mq5WZF6
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMVZLee

STM32F429:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOfgDhq
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOWJmZK

Any reason to use expensive one? I don't need updates, but it would be great to use localized version. Or any other recommendation? I can flash with j-link/st-link.


your stm429 and viiplusloader vcds hex-v2 is fly tool, fly will release the latest firmware and loader to support vcds 23.3.1 next week.


The difference between the three vcds hex-v2
1.vcds hex-v2 ATMEGA162 just can do 1996-2015 old cars，without loader，can not update freely, support one language, put vcds hex-v1 PCB board into vcds hex-v2 shell.
2.vcds hex-v2 STM32f415 can not update freely, without loader, can not do Security Access, support one language.
3.flyfvdi vcds hex-v2 viiplusloader stm32f429, update freely, with loader, can do Security Access, multi-language support.

[flyfvdi]

Thank you very much badrax, badrax gave us a new development idea, let us improve the efficiency and quality of work.

[MrDerv]

Thank you very much badrax, badrax gave us a new development idea, let us improve the efficiency and quality of work.
You mean you are going to copy and sell his/her work?

[gabogsm]

The STM32F405 bought about 2 years ago can be upgraded to which version?

[Gimse]

23.3.1 English + VIIPlusLoader-08.023.02

[gabogsm]

Does the ST9 adaptation work properly with English version 23.3.1 + VIIPloader 08.23.02?

[flyfvdi]

You mean you are going to copy and sell his/her work?

NO，Badrax technology is just so so. not worth us to copy.

[jach0o]

23.3.1 English + VIIPlusLoader-08.023.02


your stm429 and viiplusloader vcds hex-v2 is fly tool, fly will release the latest firmware and loader to support vcds 23.3.1 next week.

Can i ask you flyfvdi is it currnetly safe to update from 23.3.0 to 23.3.1 with this loader or should i wait a little longer for update? (STM32F429)

[flyfvdi]

Can i ask you flyfvdi is it currnetly safe to update from 23.3.0 to 23.3.1 with this loader or should i wait a little longer for update? (STM32F429)

yes, fly vcds hex-v2 update to 23.3.1 with the newest firmware and loader within the next few days.

The development has been completed, fly is testing.

[flyfvdi]

VCDS 23.3.1 does not require a firmware upgrade (it will work with CB:4631) so VIIPlus loader for 23.3 will work but it will not be able to decrypt UDS messages.
In your scan log you will see something like this:

13697024 - Component Protection
U1100 00 [009] - No Basic Setting
[Tip-TNF 231499]

instead of:

13697024 - Component Protection
U1100 00 [009] - No Basic Setting
[Komponentenschutz keine oder falsche Grundeinstellung bzw. Adaption]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

VCDS will of course know that you are missing the decrypt key and might do other strange things.

Every version of VCDS is using a different key that only a genuine interface can calculate.
The calculation is done by sending a MAC message to the external crypto chip and without this key it will be "impossible" to calc this response.
The response will have to be ripped from a genuine interface and hard coded into the VIIPlus firmware.
This is why VIIPlus loader need an update to fully work with VCDS 23.3.1

For VCDS 23.3.1 ENG the Challenge is:
0xFD, 0x9D, 0x98, 0x3B, 0xDF, 0x6B, 0x0E, 0x01, 0x01, 0x10, 0xEC, 0x79, 0x80, 0xB0, 0xEC, 0x76, 0xCE, 0x04, 0xC0, 0x01, 0xD8, 0x09, 0x85, 0x02, 0x09, 0x9E, 0x0E, 0x1E, 0x9D, 0x3C, 0x76, 0x27

and the response is:
0xED, 0x57, 0xB1, 0x21, 0xBC, 0xB0, 0x04, 0x72, 0xDE, 0x15, 0x02, 0xF3, 0x43, 0x79, 0x97, 0x10, 0x00, 0xCE, 0xE2, 0x6D, 0x30, 0x49, 0x0E, 0x1D, 0x46, 0xFD, 0xD6, 0xB9, 0xA9, 0x14, 0x3B, 0x87

Yes，FLY know the problem， FLY deliberately left it in this version firmware. FLY can fix it, Badrax you can ?


Badrax firmware has some bugs, FLY will fix them in the newer version.

[flyfvdi]

someone already success try to unlock SFD on MQB2020 with hex-v2 (viiplusloader)?

i found that sfd tokens can be generated on vaglogins.com up to 5 dollars

FLY vcds hex-v2 will support SFD in the next version.

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[MrDerv]

FLY vcds hex-v2 will support SFD in the next version.

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How do you plan to do this when RossTech themselves can't do this on 2020+ MQB Evo or ID cars??

Until RossTech can do this, don't kid yourself and say you can.

For context, https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/37152/ and https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/36440/

[liviudiaconu]

23.3.1 English + VIIPlusLoader-08.023.02
Where is download link, please?

[jach0o]

Where is download link, please?

flyfdti said is in testing now so i guess 8.23.2 is not valid for 23.3.1

[flyfvdi]

So many people waiting for fly company to release the new version, thank you

[liviudiaconu]

So many people waiting for fly company to release the new version, thank you

When your product is locked/paired with this loader, no other solution exist. YET!! If another better solution will exist "so many people wil waiting for that solution"...

Like the old version (V1) 10 years ago. Chineses has hexa193...serial, but bad loader, easy to unlicensing, few europeans has hexc715.. serials. (not only one, more) and more loaders and solutions. After this, "kolimer" made in time more solutions for FREE and chineses used him work for make money.

[flyfvdi]

Genuine VCDS Hex-V2 with STM32F427 and BadraxV2Loader,vcds software v23.3.1,full version,not update freely now,very stable,can do Security Access,already fixed all Badrax firmware bugs, just 20 usd + the shipping charge.

in the future you can update it if you pay.


how much is vcds hex-v2 with stm 415 ? 30 usd or 40 usd ?

[flyfvdi]

When your product is locked/paired with this loader, no other solution exist. YET!! If another better solution will exist "so many people wil waiting for that solution"...

Like the old version (V1) 10 years ago. Chineses has hexa193...serial, but bad loader, easy to unlicensing, few europeans has hexc715.. serials. (not only one, more) and more loaders and solutions. After this, "kolimer" made in time more solutions for FREE and chineses used him work for make money.


Maybe kolimer can make KolimerV2Loader for vcds hex-v2, be free.

[liviudiaconu]

1. Maybe!
2. Kolimer was an example.
3. Badrax can be another example.

[silv3r]

963193
Hello, guys! I'm new around here. I've just come across this thread and I really like what I'm reading here, very useful information. I'm not a very advanced user but I can understand some things. So, I have a couple of questions.
First, this is the interface I bought some time ago, I've managed to update the firmware to version 1.96, or something like that. But it seems that the latest VCDS version which works with it is 20.4.1, right?
Anyway, can I update anything about it? Or should I just abandon it?
I've found another cable, ST32F429 ARM CHIP, on aliepress. Is it worth it? Or I can still work something around with it?

Thank you for your input!

[flyfvdi]

963193
Hello, guys! I'm new around here. I've just come across this thread and I really like what I'm reading here, very useful information. I'm not a very advanced user but I can understand some things. So, I have a couple of questions.
First, this is the interface I bought some time ago, I've managed to update the firmware to version 1.96, or something like that. But it seems that the latest VCDS version which works with it is 20.4.1, right?
Anyway, can I update anything about it? Or should I just abandon it?
I've found another cable, ST32F429 ARM CHIP, on aliepress. Is it worth it? Or I can still work something around with it?

Thank you for your input!


Update freely VCDS Hex-V2 with main chip STM32F405VGT6 and VII PLus Loader. full version, update freely. most stable.



The difference between the three vcds hex-v2
1.vcds hex-v2 ATMEGA162 just can do 1996-2015 old cars，without loader，can not update freely, support one language, put vcds hex-v1 PCB board into vcds hex-v2 shell.
2.vcds hex-v2 STM32f415 can not update freely, without loader, can not do Security Access, support one language.
3.flyfvdi vcds hex-v2 viiplusloader stm32f429, update freely, with loader, can do Security Access, multi-language support.

[gabogsm]

Is there a difference between STM32F405 and STM32F429?

[flyfvdi]

Is there a difference between STM32F405 and STM32F429?

Update freely VCDS Hex-V2 with main chip STM405 or STM427 or STM429 and VII PLus Loader. full version, update freely. most stable.

STM405 or STM427 or STM429 is same

[wiechec]

VIIPlusLoader-08.023.04

[miouser]

@flyfvdi

Why are you repeating the same thing over and over again like a parrot?
why other users always share VIIPlusLoader, and not you???

it would be more helpful if you took feedback about problems and provided solutions in a timely manner and did not enter into a flood :ridinghorse:

[Billyym]

VIIPlusLoader-08.023.04

Can you send me link. Wont open attachment.

Thank you 👍

[zuber1979]

https://we.tl/t-LcZOFwvcMQ

[miouser]

@zuber1979
VIIPlusLoader-08.023.02-FULL-Installer is not VIIPlusLoader-08.023.04 :hmmmm2:

[flyfvdi]

@flyfvdi

Why are you repeating the same thing over and over again like a parrot?
why other users always share VIIPlusLoader, and not you??
?

it would be more helpful if you took feedback about problems and provided solutions in a timely manner and did not enter into a flood :ridinghorse:


FLY engineers are strengthening the protection to prevent you from stealing fly vcds hex-v2 firmware.


FLY has technical support engineers to supply services.


If you need support, please contact fly technical support engineers.

[flyfvdi]

FLY already released VIIPlusLoader-08.023.04-FULL-Installer,
support vcds v23.3.1 software, please contact fly technical support engineers.

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[MrDerv]

Is there a difference between STM32F405 and STM32F429?

the STM32F429 is the better one to go for. It will be able to access 2020+ cars like the MQB Evo and ID platforms.

Also, ignore flyfvdi, they're like a broken record, and as you've already read, they didn't answer your question, just pushing their warez.

[flyfvdi]

the STM32F429 is the better one to go for. It will be able to access 2020+ cars like the MQB Evo and ID platforms.

Also, ignore flyfvdi, they're like a broken record, and as you've already read, they didn't answer your question, just pushing their warez.

STM32F429 VIIPLusLoader vcds hex-v2 is fly/flyfvdi company tool. fly technical support engineers supply the best service to you.

[MrDerv]

STM32F429 VIIPLusLoader vcds hex-v2 is fly/flyfvdi company tool. fly technical support engineers supply the best service to you.

There's that broken record again

[vagtacho]

I tried to update VCDS Hex-V2 with main chip STM405 to latest version VIIPlusLoader-08.023.04-FULL and disconnected the USB cable too early. Message in updater pop-up was clipped and I could not read full line warning from that.
Is it bricked now? No LED is lightening and interface is not recognized anymore.
What tools are needed to bring it back to life. Before update it worked pretty fine.
Please, please help.

[Ossie3]

i installed it but its saying that my laptop is a virtual machine... how to fix?

[beny30]

HI
Same for me it is saying: "Sorry, this application cannot run under a Virtual Machine."

[TechMonkey]

Just a heads up, do not install VIIPlusLoader-08.023.04 on a 32bit system as it breaks. It looks to work fine on 64bit systems when checking the option to "Install 32bit on 64bit".

Maybe there is a fix for this but I haven't found anything as of yet.

[vagtacho]

My problem seems to be a more serious one. The adapter is even not recognized as an interface anymore and Ross-Tech's healing method via config button and reflash cannot be triggered.
How to reflash USB-interface part or do I need now an external 12V supply on the connector?
Can anyone assist how to bring back or do I have to buy a new one?
Please help.
Can badrax with his famous insight knowledge on hard and software give an advise how to continue or is it finally lost?

[flyfvdi]

I tried to update VCDS Hex-V2 with main chip STM405 to latest version VIIPlusLoader-08.023.04-FULL and disconnected the USB cable too early. Message in updater pop-up was clipped and I could not read full line warning from that.
Is it bricked now? No LED is lightening and interface is not recognized anymore.
What tools are needed to bring it back to life. Before update it worked pretty fine.
Please, please help.


the software has prompts, please do not disconnect the USB cable during firmware update.


uninstall your pc old vcds software, reinstall vcds v23.3.1 software.


uninstall your pc old viiplusloader software, reinstall VIIPlusLoader-08.023.04-FULL-Installer software.


open VIIPlusLoader-08.023.04 to start

[flyfvdi]

i installed it but its saying that my laptop is a virtual machine... how to fix?


can not run under a virtual machine. must run under the real windows system.

[flyfvdi]

HI
Same for me it is saying: "Sorry, this application cannot run under a Virtual Machine."


can not run under a virtual machine. must run under the real windows system.

[flyfvdi]

vcds software and viiplusloader can run under 32bit and 64bit windows OS.

when installing the viiplusloader,

if your windows os is 32bit, do not selected.

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if your windows os is 64bit, please selected "Install 32-bit EXE on 64-bit System"

[TechMonkey]

vcds software and viiplusloader can run under 32bit and 64bit windows OS.

963816

please selected "Install 32-bit EXE on 64-bit System" when installing the viiplusloader

This option is only available if your installing on a 64bit system, you cannot check this box if your installing on a 32bit system it doesn't allow it.

After installing on a 32bit system the loader starts the software and crashes, VCDS then spots the cable as a clone.

[flyfvdi]

This option is only available if your installing on a 64bit system, you cannot check this box if your installing on a 32bit system it doesn't allow it.

After installing on a 32bit system the loader starts the software and crashes, VCDS then spots the cable as a clone.


please contact fly technical support engineers

[MrDerv]

Myabe badrax is selling Genuine VCDS Hex-V2 with STM32F427 and BadraxV2Loader
Where did you come up with that inaccurate statement?

Badrax is putting time into fixing issues, he does not sell.

[flyfvdi]

Where did you come up with that inaccurate statement?

Badrax is putting time into fixing issues, he does not sell.

badrax is cracking VIIPlusLoader-08.023.04 and fly vcds hex-v2 vcds v23.3.1

Everyone knows badrax is for the money, for the sales.

So much hard work, so much time and effort.

[MrDerv]

badrax is cracking VIIPlusLoader-08.023.04 and fly vcds hex-v2 vcds v23.3.1

Everyone knows badrax is for the money, for the sales.

So much hard work, so much time and effort.

Please provide evidence that Badrax is taking any kind of financial reward?? All i've seen is Badrax is able to work out a way of recovering bricked adapters, because maybe Fly's technical assistance is useless?

And why are you replying to this? I replied to caohy2023, i'm beginning to believe you are both the same accounts.

You've congratulated Badrax for their work here: https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=4545755&viewfull=1#post4545755

And now you are slandering them for it.

Clearly you have an axe to grind

[flyfvdi]

Please provide evidence that Badrax is taking any kind of financial reward?? All i've seen is Badrax is able to work out a way of recovering bricked adapters, because maybe Fly's technical assistance is useless?

And why are you replying to this? I replied to caohy2023, i'm beginning to believe you are both the same accounts.

You've congratulated Badrax for their work here: https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=4545755&viewfull=1#post4545755

And now you are slandering them for it.

Clearly you have an axe to grind

I know you're in this together, for the money, for the sales

I already known BadraxV2Loader vcds hex-v2, too

[MrDerv]

I know you're in this together, for the money, for the sales

I already known BadraxV2Loader vcds hex-v2, too

Trying the old switcheroo huh? Not going to work.

That just proves you know f**k all and you're talking s**t.

I rest my case

[MrDerv]

I know you're in this together, for the money, for the sales

I already known BadraxV2Loader vcds hex-v2, too

And why do you send this to me???

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[flyfvdi]

FLY designed the PCB and developed the code, compatible with the ross-tech vcds software.

but someone used badrax fly vcds hex-v2 firmware to manufacture 415 V2.

to sell 415 v2 for the money.

Very disappointing. 415 V2 is so bad.

who is using badrax fly vcds hex-v2 firmware to manufacture and sell 415 V2 ?

[MrDerv]

FLY designed the PCB and developed the code, compatible with the ross-tech vcds software.

but someone used badrax fly vcds hex-v2 firmware to manufacture 415 V2.

to sell 415 v2 for the money.

Very disappointing. 415 V2 is so bad.

who is using badrax fly vcds hex-v2 firmware to manufacture and sell 415 V2 ?

Once again, please provide proof of this. Links to forum posts stating this etc?

[flyfvdi]

Once again, please provide proof of this. Links to forum posts stating this etc?

Why so hypocritical?

Thief is using badrax fly vcds hex-v2 firmware to manufacture and sell 415 V2?

Maybe badrax cracked fly vcds hex-v2 firmware for the God.

[MrDerv]

Why so hypocritical?

Thief is using badrax fly vcds hex-v2 firmware to manufacture and sell 415 V2?

Maybe badrax cracked fly vcds hex-v2 firmware for the God.

So who is the thief? You said it was Badrax, and now its not?

[flyfvdi]

So who is the thief? You said it was Badrax, and now its not?

if badrax developed the vcds hex-v2 firmware by himself, he is not.

but now badrax used fly vcds hex-v2 firmware and viiplusloader for little small money.

[Billyym]

Another report from someone i know of a bricked Hex V2 "Fly" cable.

Using new Viiplusloader. On 32bit computer. Updated, the vcd$ starts. And Viiplusloader crashes in background. Now the cable is dead. Won't update. Won't downgrade back to previous loader. No LED lights etc.

Come on "Fly". I thought you was making "excellent software" you absolute moron.

What's your plan now? Seems like your "technical team" are scared of badrax and rushed this new Viiplusloader.

[flyfvdi]

Another report from someone i know of a bricked Hex V2 "Fly" cable.

Using new Viiplusloader. On 32bit computer. Updated, the vcd$ starts. And Viiplusloader crashes in background. Now the cable is dead. Won't update. Won't downgrade back to previous loader. No LED lights etc.

Come on "Fly". I thought you was making "excellent software" you absolute moron.


What's your plan now? Seems like your "technical team" are scared of badrax and rushed this new Viiplusloader.


already added anti-hacking functions，prevent you continuing to crack.

[MrDerv]

Another report from someone i know of a bricked Hex V2 "Fly" cable.

Using new Viiplusloader. On 32bit computer. Updated, the vcd$ starts. And Viiplusloader crashes in background. Now the cable is dead. Won't update. Won't downgrade back to previous loader. No LED lights etc.

Come on "Fly". I thought you was making "excellent software" you absolute moron.

What's your plan now? Seems like your "technical team" are scared of badrax and rushed this new Viiplusloader.

I think his plan all along was to wait for Badrax's fix and roll it out themselves

[flyfvdi]

I think his plan all along was to wait for Badrax's fix and roll it out themselves

laugh my ass off

It's funny how angry you look

keep using it if you can

[Billyym]

already added anti-hacking functions，prevent you continuing to crack.


Prevents me? 😂😂😂. Does it look like I'm trying to crack anything.

Also, what you going to do about the people who are trying to update your Hex V2 on 32bit? Their devices are getting bricked.

64bit is working fine.

[flyfvdi]

Prevents me? . Does it look like I'm trying to crack anything.

Also, what you going to do about the people who are trying to update your Hex V2 on 32bit? Their devices are getting bricked.

64bit is working fine.

if your words are true , please let the customer contact fly technical support engineers

[Billyym]

if your words are true , please let the customer contact fly technical support engineers

Can I ask why do you have to be such a bitch about stuff? Are you frustrated?

If me and someone else has mentioned there's a genuine issues with the 32bit installation of Viiplusloader and 64bit is working fine. Why do you have an absolute ~~~~ about it?

I will literally not respond to you with any respect after this. You stupid nobhead.

[sxp88]

anti hack
hacked rosstech fw :)
this is joke !!!
you are cracked original FW !!! and now crying because other one use this :D :D

[flyfvdi]

Can I ask why do you have to be such a bitch about stuff? Are you frustrated?

If me and someone else has mentioned there's a genuine issues with the 32bit installation of Viiplusloader and 64bit is working fine. Why do you have an absolute ~~~~ about it?

I will literally not respond to you with any respect after this. You stupid nobhead.



Instead of posting here, you should have contacted fly technical support engineers first.


why you do not dare to contact fly technical support engineers? they can help you by TV.

fly already tested under 32bit windows OS, everything is ok.

badrax can solved it, who stupid?

[flyfvdi]

anti hack
hacked rosstech fw :)
this is joke !!!
you are cracked original FW !!! and now crying because other one use this :D :D

welcome badrax continue to crack fly vcds hex-v2, use fly vcds hex-v2 to earn little small money.

[flyfvdi]

And why do you send this to me???

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because i want to know which country do you come from ?

[flyfvdi]

welcome badrax continue to crack fly vcds hex-v2, use fly vcds hex-v2 to earn little small money.

fly does not use RT hex-v2 firmware. but badrax uses fly hex-v2 firmware directly.

unfortunately badrax fly hex-v2 firmware has many bugs.

badrax , can you fix these bugs?

[Billyym]

Instead of posting here, you should have contacted fly technical support engineers first.


why you do not dare to contact fly technical support engineers? they can help you by TV.

fly already tested under 32bit windows OS, everything is ok.

badrax can solved it, who stupid?


Bro shut the ~~~~ up. You're legit pissing me off.

Are you ~~~~in blind! I said someone reported it. Did I say me?

Anyways shut the ~~~~ up and don't reply. ~~~~ing idiot.

[flyfvdi]

Bro shut the ~~~~ up. You're legit pissing me off.

Are you ~~~~in blind! I said someone reported it. Did I say me?

Anyways shut the ~~~~ up and don't reply. ~~~~ing idiot.

you do not need post here ,just let the customer contact fly technical support engineers. Otherwise, we think you're denigrating.

why are you angry?

realx,realx,realx.

being angry will make your life short.

attention quality.

i suppose you wish you were a gentleman, not a cussing dog.

[liviudiaconu]

A link with Badrax loader is possible? Thank you

[MrDerv]

fly does not use RT hex-v2 firmware. but badrax uses fly hex-v2 firmware directly.

unfortunately badrax fly hex-v2 firmware has many bugs.

badrax , can you fix these bugs?

Are you suggesting you are using someone elses work, and are now relying on them fixing the bugs? Why don't you tell us what bugs you've found in Badrax's firmware? Go on, show us proof, I DARE YOU.

From what i can see, Badrax is trying to fix adapters that are locked out or bricked. Something that Fly doesn't seem to be bothered fixing or assist with on this forum. Its just the same old response from you, "contact fly technical, fly is the best, f__k all the rest"

[MrDerv]

A link with Badrax loader is possible? Thank you
You'll have to contact him directly, there is some info he will need in order to create it for you

[gmb45]

we put up with "certain" members because it benefits other members, this can be changed at the push of a button !!!

[MrDerv]

we put up with "certain" members because it benefits other members, this can be changed at the push of a button !!!
With reference to the forum rules...
30. Multiple Identities are not permitted.

Edited. Looks like the thread has been cleaned up ;) Thanks for taking a look

[liviudiaconu]

You used fly vcds hex-v2 firmware to manufacture the crap 415 V2. to sell and earn little small money.

It looks like a quote from the ones thought or desired by UWE somehow.

[Lolo4321]

fly ever wondered how ross tech felt about you ripping them off:hello:

[Pater Fortunato]

964676964677
Soon this forum will be like other forums full of people who will ask every day, day by day the same bassic and stupid questions. All those because of ,Fly Team’ campaign to promovate his products. Look what I so yesterday on a facebook vcds group in my country(photo)

Also on this forum I so that Fly it is posting over and over againt the same messages to promovate his products…
Stay chill man. You are to desperate in the last few months.

I remember that before you find the issue with security acces… we are all post here about this issue and from you NO ANSWERS… from 21.9.0 EN until 2-3 months ago. And now you post nonstop about security acces… Maybe you think that your clones are better than genuine vcds.

[Fabio89]

Anyone can do firmware downgrade after update to 08.23.04 full ? Because others firmewares are getting error after i update and try downgrade
VCDS STMF405

[badrax]

Anyone can do firmware downgrade after update to 08.23.04 full ? Because others firmewares are getting error after i update and try downgrade
VCDS STMF405

Perhaps they upgraded the bootloader to fix some of their crypto flaws. If they did then older firmware’s wont be compatible any more.
Did you see how many images that was upgraded? I don’t have a fully working interface to test on without a lot of bench setup so I have not upgraded yet.
Also I would like to see a LKT i2c log to see if they have upgraded the LKT FW and if they are using different authentication checks.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[flyfvdi]

964676964677
Soon this forum will be like other forums full of people who will ask every day, day by day the same bassic and stupid questions. All those because of ,Fly Team’ campaign to promovate his products. Look what I so yesterday on a facebook vcds group in my country(photo)

Also on this forum I so that Fly it is posting over and over againt the same messages to promovate his products…
Stay chill man. You are to desperate in the last few months.

I remember that before you find the issue with security acces… we are all post here about this issue and from you NO ANSWERS… from 21.9.0 EN until 2-3 months ago. And now you post nonstop about security acces… Maybe you think that your clones are better than genuine vcds.






Security Access works well. same as the original RT vcds hex-v2.

[pedrosm]

i have problems going to the module 91-engine of a 2009 VW crafter with hex-v2. all other modules without problem, but engine module say with all version and viiplusloader version "no response from controller" a friend borrow me HEX+CAN VAG12.12 and can connect, but i can not read all engine parameter and can not reset manteinance. any idea why happend this?

[Screpicoco]

Hello, I have a problem after the update 08.23.04 full + 23.3.1ENG. I can't enter the security code in the central unit 09 = 31347, the vcds keeps freezing and then throws the error "The control unit rejected the key! Error 00: Unknown (0x00)". Please advise what I should do. I already tried uninstalling everything and cleaning the registry and reinstalling but the error is the same. Sometimes it always says cable failed to update and sometimes it catches it and updates without problem, on FW #1: V01.09.06.

[Turbz]

VIIPlusLoader-08.023.04

Can't seen to download off this link does anyone have a link please. Thanks

[StanNB]

Security Access works well. same as the original RT vcds hex-v2.

Yes. In your dreams.

[cardou]

Security Access works well. same as the original RT vcds hex-v2.


Don't be in dreaming, ok ? To be one of the users, "fly" HEX V2 can not do Security Access after version 21.9, and too many bugs in using.........

Every users of his v2 knows it, although in this forums many members have mentioned it (can not do Security Access....), just rely FLY's is the best, if have problems, pls contact my enginer zhang. If you really can solve it, why can not share here ? BTW, you enginer zhang via TV help can not solved, then said my laptop systems too old, need win10,win11.....I thought when I bought it's 21.3, at that time all works ok, and now you said my windows too told, don't you think this excuse is too redicious as you can not solve the problems we met....

[flyfvdi]

Don't be in dreaming, ok ? To be one of the users, "fly" HEX V2 can not do Security Access after version 21.9, and too many bugs in using.........

Every users of his v2 knows it, although in this forums many members have mentioned it (can not do Security Access....), just rely FLY's is the best, if have problems, pls contact my enginer zhang. If you really can solve it, why can not share here ? BTW, you enginer zhang via TV help can not solved, then said my laptop systems too old, need win10,win11.....I thought when I bought it's 21.3, at that time all works ok, and now you said my windows too told, don't you think this excuse is too redicious as you can not solve the problems we met....

can do Security Access now，update to the newest

[cardou]

welcome badrax continue to crack fly vcds hex-v2, use fly vcds hex-v2 to earn little small money.

FLY cracked RT's V2 as 1:1 pcb designed, and using VCD$ software, the name also the same HEX V2, cracked original, then you said it's your own FW, not cracked as RT's FW.

This words should be for yourself "welcome flyfvdi continue to crack RT vcds hex-v2, use RT vcds hex-v2 to earn little small money." Lof.....

[flyfvdi]

FLY cracked RT's V2 as 1:1 pcb designed, and using VCD$ software, the name also the same HEX V2, cracked original, then you said it's your own FW, not cracked as RT's FW.

This words should be for yourself "welcome flyfvdi continue to crack RT vcds hex-v2, use RT vcds hex-v2 to earn little small money." Lof.....

IC is stm32f429
encryption chip is lkt4106
canbus chip is sit1050t
K-line chip is dp9241
power supply chip is XL4001E1

1:1 ?
no

not RT PCB , not RT firmware，compatible with RT vcds software by viiplusloader.

fly engineers don't have the ability to crack RT hex-v2 firmware.

If you can crack RT hex-v2 firmware, please send fly a free copy.

Maybe badrax can crack RT hex-v2 firmware? be free for everyone ?

badrax, since you like free, please make your development project code free.

[MrDerv]

can do Security Access now，update to the newest
No it can't.

STM32F429 will do security access on 22.10, not newer 23.3.

Jesus, so many complaints of no security access, get it sorted instead of saying it can

[flyfvdi]

No it can't.

STM32F429 will do security access on 22.10, not newer 23.3.

Jesus, so many complaints of no security access, get it sorted instead of saying it can



22.10 can do security access. why 23.3.1 can not? stop your lies and slurs.

MrDerv, i had your stm32f415 hex-v2 vcds v22.10 in my hand，already tested, it is using fly vcds hex-v2 firmware. but because without viiplusloader , too many bugs.

fly will modify the fly vcds hex-v2 firmware. you can't use it to manufacture 415 hex-v2 again.

if you want to do security access, must have loader to do the RSA algorithm to calculate the security access key.

no loader , no security access.

MrDerv, only you slander here. others already contactd the technical support engineers.

[StanNB]

no loader , no security access.


Oh really?? 🤣🤣

4.15 security access without any loader.

There is so much you don’t know!

[flyfvdi]

Oh really?? 藍藍

4.15 security access without any loader.

There is so much you don’t know!


must have loader to do the RSA algorithm to calculate the security access key

[MrDerv]

22.10 can do security access. why 23.3.1 can not? stop your lies and slurs.

MrDerv, i had your stm32f415 hex-v2 vcds v22.10 in my hand，already tested, it is using fly vcds hex-v2 firmware. but because without viiplusloader , too many bugs.

fly will modify the fly vcds hex-v2 firmware. you can't use it to manufacture 415 hex-v2 again.

if you want to do security access, must have loader to do the RSA algorithm to calculate the security access key.

no loader , no security access.

MrDerv, only you slander here. others already contactd the technical support engineers.

Firstly, You are the one lying here (its clear that everyone else feels the same way). The moment you are criticised, you go on the offensive to protect a product that clearly needs fixing to work with newer versions. You insinuate you have a cable i have supposedly supplied?? Couldn't be possible since i neither manufacture, supply, or sell these. All i own is an F429 i bought from Aliexpress, which as it turns out, CAN NOT DO SECURITY ACCESS with VCDS 23.3 and your VII Loader on my 2017 Passat. Once again, you try to attempt the old switcheroo in order to make it look like I'M the one who is the bad guy here. I AM A USER/CUSTOMER, NOT A COMPETITOR.

Security access works fine on 22.10, so i'll stick with that.

READ THE POSTS from everyone else here which say that security access does not work on 23.3 with vii loader. Fix it and stop claiming it works!!!! If you can't fix it, then say so, and tell people which version security access DOES work with.

[flyfvdi]

Firstly, You are the one lying here (its clear that everyone else feels the same way). The moment you are criticised, you go on the offensive to protect a product that clearly needs fixing to work with newer versions. You insinuate you have a cable i have supposedly supplied?? Couldn't be possible since i neither manufacture, supply, or sell these. All i own is an F429 i bought from Aliexpress, which as it turns out, CAN NOT DO SECURITY ACCESS with VCDS 23.3 and your VII Loader on my 2017 Passat. Once again, you try to attempt the old switcheroo in order to make it look like I'M the one who is the bad guy here. I AM A USER/CUSTOMER, NOT A COMPETITOR.

Security access works fine on 22.10, so i'll stick with that.

READ THE POSTS from everyone else here which say that security access does not work on 23.3 with vii loader. Fix it and stop claiming it works!!!! If you can't fix it, then say so, and tell people which version security access DOES work with.

The competitors always slander here. the real customers always contact the technical support engineers.

[flyfvdi]

crap vcds v22.10 stm32f415 hex-v2 is using fly vcds hex-v2 firmware.

you are using fly vcds hex-v2 firmware，and you are calling it bad. absurd theory.

why not develop the firmware by yourself. why to use fly vcds hex-v2 firmware?

[MrDerv]

crap vcds v22.10 stm32f415 hex-v2 is using fly vcds hex-v2 firmware.

you are using fly vcds hex-v2 firmware，and you are calling it bad. absurd theory.

why not develop the firmware by yourself. why to use fly vcds hex-v2 firmware?

I'll tell you what, AS A CUSTOMER, i will not recommend your product to anyone. Furthermore, your attitude towards customers stinks. Have you heard the phrase "look after your customers, and they'll look after you"?

Me and many others have told you whats wrong. Stop trying to flip it back at me.

[flyfvdi]

I'll tell you what, AS A CUSTOMER, i will not recommend your product to anyone. Furthermore, your attitude towards customers stinks. Have you heard the phrase "look after your customers, and they'll look after you"?

Me and many others have told you whats wrong. Stop trying to flip it back at me.

you are overreaching. your vcds v22.10 stm32f415 hex-v2 is so crap, please go to concern it. fly vcds hex-v2 does not need your slander.

965237


965238

965239

these are crap vcds v22.10 stm32f415 hex-v2 pictures.

these are crap vcds v22.10 stm32f415 hex-v2 are using fly vcds hex-v2 firmware.

[StanNB]

must have loader to do the RSA algorithm to calculate the security access key

That’s a lie. 1:1 encryption chip dump. I know, you can’t believe it cause your engineers from Russia are to stupid for this. You have to emulate the encryption. Thats from yesterday!


crap vcds v22.10 stm32f415 hex-v2 is using fly vcds hex-v2 firmware.


Another lie. My 415 use 1:1 RT FW. It was done week’s before your VII Plus crap came out. I don’t need your crap!

[flyfvdi]

First we need to stop these people from hacking and using our firmware.

Second we continue to do a good job of our equipment fly vcds hex-v2.

these vcds v22.10 stm32f415 hex-v2 factory boys do not hurry.


965241

[flyfvdi]

That’s a lie. 1:1 encryption chip dump. I know, you can’t believe it cause your engineers from Russia are to stupid for this. You have to emulate the encryption. Thats from yesterday!



Another lie. My 415 use 1:1 RT FW. It was done week’s before your VII Plus crap came out. I don’t need your crap!


StanNB, please forget and stop talking about fly vcds hex-v2, thank you.

Ok, who already used fly vcds hex-v2 firmware to manufacture vcds v22.10 stm32f415 hex-v2 ， whose entire family will die.

[MrDerv]

you are overreaching. your vcds v22.10 stm32f415 hex-v2 is so crap, please go to concern it. fly vcds hex-v2 does not need your slander.

965237


965238

965239

these are crap vcds v22.10 stm32f415 hex-v2 pictures.

these are crap vcds v22.10 stm32f415 hex-v2 are using fly vcds hex-v2 firmware.

ONCE AGAIN, i own a STM32F429 Hex-V2.

I have no idea why you associate me with the 415???

you are getting desperate, and will not listen.

I'm done explaining.

[flyfvdi]

ONCE AGAIN, i own a STM32F429 Hex-V2.

I have no idea why you associate me with the 415???

you are getting desperate, and will not listen.

I'm done explaining.

because you already used fly vcds hex-v2 firmware to manufacture vcds v22.10 stm32f415 hex-v2.

[MrDerv]

because you already used fly vcds hex-v2 firmware to manufacture vcds v22.10 stm32f415 hex-v2.
No, just No. Stop trying to put words in my mouth or accuse me.

Also, i don't appreciate the threatening private message you just sent me. Sums you up really. Reported to the forum admins.

965245

[StanNB]

First we need to stop these people from hacking and using our firmware.





We need to stop those chinese drug addicted people like flyfvdi from hacking our HEX V2 Firmware and selling their cloned V2 with inferior hardware and very bugy VII Plus Loader.

haha, everyone knows you and your crap ��

[haseebiqbalchoh]

Hello everyone, I am new here. I have seen people posting about using VCDS cable to use VAG K+CAN commander. I have been trying since this morning but now luck.

Is this because I'm using Windows 10? does this VAG K+CAN V3.6 commander software only work on windows xp?

I'm getting following error when I run the application VAG K+CAN V3.6.

First I get "open port failted", if press okay I get "Cannot Find Device" and the programme shut it self.

is this because of the VSDC cable or something else

I also could see "SCOMM SET' button in the application. my VCP is set to COM 2

If you have any suggestion, that would be really helpful.

Thank you in advance.

[flyfvdi]

MrDerv (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/833107-MrDerv) and StanNB (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/743663-StanNB) you should put your fly vcds hex-v2 into the wastebin. go to use your crap v22.10 vcds hex-v2.


If it is not good, why do you have it?

[flyfvdi]

965374965375965376965377

these are v22.10 vcds stm415 hex-v2 pictures.

it used badrax fly vcds hex-v2 firmware, without loader, too many bugs.

who already bought it ? why nobody talk about it ? because too little people had it.

[flyfvdi]

The difference between the three vcds hex-v2
1.vcds hex-v2 ATMEGA162 just can do 1996-2015 old cars，without loader，can not update freely, support one language, put vcds hex-v1 PCB board into vcds hex-v2 shell.
2.vcds hex-v2 STM32f415 can not update freely, without loader, can not do Security Access, support one language.
3.flyfvdi vcds hex-v2 viiplusloader stm32f429, update freely, with loader, can do Security Access, multi-language support.

Note：
now v22.10 vcds stm415 hex-v2 used badrax fly vcds hex-v2 firmware, without loader, too many bugs.

[flyfvdi]

965378965379

965380965381


The genuine vcds hex-v1

[MrDerv]

The difference between the three vcds hex-v2
1.vcds hex-v2 ATMEGA162 just can do 1996-2015 old cars，without loader，can not update freely, support one language, put vcds hex-v1 PCB board into vcds hex-v2 shell.
2.vcds hex-v2 STM32f415 can not update freely, without loader, can not do Security Access, support one language.
3.flyfvdi vcds hex-v2 viiplusloader stm32f429, update freely, with loader, can do Security Access, multi-language support.

Note：
now v22.10 vcds stm415 hex-v2 used badrax fly vcds hex-v2 firmware, without loader, too many bugs.

Funny, Note 3 above..... I'm using STM32F429, and CAN NOT do security access in 23.3 with or without viiplusloader. Thats why i have to use 22.10 instead. It simply does not do security access with 23.3.

End of story. I'm done explaining.

Proof if needed this is whats onboard mine:
965394

[flyfvdi]

Funny, Note 3 above..... I'm using STM32F429, and CAN NOT do security access in 23.3 with or without viiplusloader. Thats why i have to use 22.10 instead. It simply does not do security access with 23.3.

End of story. I'm done explaining.

Proof if needed this is whats onboard mine:
965394

In fact you are manufacturing and selling v22.10 stm415 hex-v2 with badrax fly vcds hex-v2 firmware. a competitive game between your team and fly.


965402

965403
The result of badrax's hard work for 3 years

[flyfvdi]

965408965409

fake vcds hex-v2

vcds hex-v2 ATMEGA162 just can do 1996-2015 old cars，without loader，can not update freely, support one language, put vcds hex-v1 PCB board into vcds hex-v2 shell.

same label with v22.10 vcds stm415 hex-v2.

MrDerv， you manufactured and sold it ?

[PremierD]

Enough ...............

[PremierD]

Lets try again ... any sh1t and it's gone .....................

[ganobi]

OK, who dares to open a new post.?

[Mangaia]

Hi everyone,

Has anyone managed to run a VDCS ARM on MacBooks M1/M2 with the Kolimer loader? As I just get an error “Hooking (3)” and it closes. I couldn’t find any information on it.

I used Parallels with Windows 11 installed 64bit. The VDCS does run without a loader I tested it on a separate installation, but requires license ofc.

Thanks in advance.

[CKAuto]

hi guys i need to update my vcds chip, can anybody piont me in the right direction to do this?
currankly strugling with a 2019n vw crafter and need to up date my unit my vcds sofwere is on version 21.9.0
any help will be greatfull
thanks

[miouser]

@CKAuto

read thread!
nobody update "vcds chip"
all use kolimer loader if it V1 (ATMEGA162 ) and all other viiplusloader if real V2 (STM32)
:smokin:

[tstt]

Hello,
(sorry for my bad english)

This is thread about Hardware/Software experiences,and for everybody which can help each other to build Your OWN HEX+CAN Interface or upgrade VAG-COM/VCDS Software.
I'm professional electronics (I'm designer of PCB boards),I have my OWN HEX+CAN and I'm open this thread in hope to help others.
Unfortunatelly,I haven't too much experience in Software,but I hope here will come guys which are experts for Software and together we can help each other.

with respect,
igorm

"Sharing knowledge It is a way to achieve immortality" - Dalai Lama

[voya]

Dear badrax

I've tried to flash the F405 over PA13 and PA14 SWD after I got the "ilegal device.." message.
Unfortenatly it can't establish a connection over STLink and ST Programmer and Boot0 doesn't work either.
Doing I wrong that eaven with rdp2 at least a connection should be established? I use the 4pin connector on the bcp.

PCB is the same as this one https://postimg.cc/hQ0X88Bm with an STM32F405VGT6....


I'm greatfule for all hints and advices

[Smart66]

I had same issue and my topic is here (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/1028175-Repair-locked-VCDS-STM32F405/page2). My VCDS cable is still locked and I'm searching for solution :(

[StanNB]

First generation of 405 (before VII Plus) was selled as not updatable and they only work with one version of VCDS.

[Smart66]

That's not my VCDS. Device has been locked forever after firmware update using VII Plus loader :(

[StanNB]

Contact fly support

[Smart66]

Fly suport couldn't help me and flyfvdi (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/736507-flyfvdi) had been banned from this forum before a few months :(

[voya]

Fly suport couldn't help me and flyfvdi (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/736507-flyfvdi) had been banned from this forum before a few months :(

Yes same here, they couldn't help, so only possibility is to bin it.