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Centautian
15th August, 2023, 11:42 AM
If it's locked, there is always possibility to swap with new chip, if you have some soldering skills :): https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005175332016.html

What I am more interested in if there is way to dump firmware which is inside chip (when you have working/unlocked device AND ST-LINK or J-LINK) or if somebody has already dumped it and is willing to share.

Ziepoeskenetnie
15th August, 2023, 11:48 AM
For the people with security access problem. If you are on 2023 version, you can downgrade using older version vii plus loader and older version vcds.

Mangaia
21st August, 2023, 02:00 AM
Hi everyone,

Has anyone managed to run a VDCS ARM on MacBooks M1/M2 with the Kolimer loader? As I just get an error “Hooking (3)” and it closes. I couldn’t find any information on it.

I used Parallels with Windows 11 installed 64bit. The VDCS does run without a loader I tested it on a separate installation, but requires license ofc.

Thanks in advance.
Anyone got an idea for this? I still can't figure it out.

MichaelKors
23rd August, 2023, 06:43 PM
Why waste your precious time on this ? Buy a cheap 30-40$ laptop just for VCDS use.

cmarinoiu
23rd August, 2023, 08:30 PM
hi, I have a hex v2 arm and after it 980971updates, the message below appears

miouser
26th August, 2023, 11:29 AM
same shit here with stm32f405
https://abload.de/thumb/screenshot2023-08-252d7eqt.png (https://abload.de/image.php?img=screenshot2023-08-252d7eqt.png) https://abload.de/thumb/screenshot2023-08-252dkcct.png (https://abload.de/image.php?img=screenshot2023-08-252dkcct.png)

polak1002
26th August, 2023, 12:06 PM
hello pls help mee guys with radio cod vw up
RCD 215 VW 1S0035156A
SW 0051
HW H35
Made by technlSat
radio serial number:VWZAZ1N0235022

Johnner
26th August, 2023, 03:12 PM
hello pls help mee guys with radio cod vw up
RCD 215 VW 1S0035156A
SW 0051
HW H35
Made by technlSat
radio serial number:VWZAZ1N0235022


Mate, post that in the radio section

DO NOT post in here again !!!


J

zecas
27th August, 2023, 10:50 PM
Anyone got an idea for this? I still can't figure it out.

MAc is a fashion device not for work they are total useless

tamino8e
28th August, 2023, 08:35 PM
I dont use the VIIPlus crap anymore. But I'm sure another user will help you.

Hi, Is there an alternative?

Fabio89
28th August, 2023, 09:17 PM
Perhaps they upgraded the bootloader to fix some of their crypto flaws. If they did then older firmware’s wont be compatible any more.
Did you see how many images that was upgraded? I don’t have a fully working interface to test on without a lot of bench setup so I have not upgraded yet.
Also I would like to see a LKT i2c log to see if they have upgraded the LKT FW and if they are using different authentication checks.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Badrax

Could you send me files to flash B03-ST cable ? i sent you PM
chip STM32F405
Thanks

tamino8e
29th August, 2023, 03:59 PM
Well. Every project has an ending. To bad it came to an end so soon.
"Yet another 2min crack" was one of my favorite frasses but that is not the case here. Even if it feels like it :)

When I tried to lower the LKT4106 version number then VIIPlusLoader always clamed that it was the latest so perhaps they can't upgrade this chip?

I also discovered that the lates firmware contains two images. If the extra image is not present then everything seems to work just fine but VCDS's scan log will show [Tip-TNF 212507] and not the correct message. Looking at this file that is 260KByte then can this be all of the encrypted messages that the firmware uses?
Perhaps diving a bit deeper could reveal what this image / data is used for.

Here are all the patched VIIPlus firmwares that I have collected. They should be safe to use (I hope :)) on your STM32F415 interface and should not lock the chip to RDP2.
These firmwares should now work on the 415 interface coz the external crypto chip (LKT4106) are now emulated and you can find the emulation code in the image present at address 0x08010000.

This was a fun project and I learned a few things while working on it.

The next version of VIIPlus will probably add a lot more code to talk to the crypto chip and also try to detect pathing etc. I might have a look at the new version but I don't think I will spend to much time patching it again. I hope some one else can pick up this project and continue sharing these firmware files?

Well. Here are all the files:
https://www20.zippyshare.com/v/65svYeLp/file.html

There is also a "readme.txt" file in the zip archive that will explain a bit more about how to flash etc.

Hope you enjoy.


Maybe someone has the files uploaded somewhere else since zippy is no longer.

ancuke
29th August, 2023, 09:01 PM
Guys, please don't kill me

I've searched everywhere and the information is too controversive so I have to ask for help.
I bought a hex-V2 from aliexpress that is obviously a clone but it has a good chip, 427 if I remember correctly so it's updateable and all.
I bought it in 2021 and it was working fine untill I recently checked for updates.
I found a VIIplus that was 8.023.07-FULL and I updated because i think I was running 08.021.05-FULL for many years so I thought it is a good thing.

Unfortunately, after that i started receiving all kinds of errors in VCDS, such as , unable to code, need licenced interface; it stopped doing full autoscan for the same reason; it disconnects from security access; the modules start to flash, unable to connect; went slow connecting to modules, etc, nevertheless it is all green in the VCDS and it is all good, unlimited and licensed.

Can you please guide me to basics, how does it work now, if I updated to the latest VIIplus, can I revert to where it all was working fine or is the update inevitable and irreversible now?

I've tried different VCDS starting from 21.3 which came with the cable in 2021 up until 23.3 and they are all the same, the do work but with different errors.

What am I doing wrong? I'm not stupid but it seems that im not bright either because the latest update is not working well.

I would appreciate any help, thanks in advance!

siewcu
31st August, 2023, 08:44 PM
Hello,
I have a problem. I've bought few days ago another clone, with STM32F429 chip. Package came today, I've install VCDS(haven't turned it on), plugged in cable - not recognized in Device Manager. Installed VIIPlus Loader, plugged out of USB, plugged in, drivers started installing, installed and then... poof. Blue LED turned off, tried on 2 different pc, 2 different USB cables, zero reaction on connecting interface. There was no information about drivers in readme that I've got from seller, also haven't found anything about it on web - I assume that ross-tech drivers works fine. Any ideas? Faulty one, or maybe accidentally I've broken something?

squirrely
8th September, 2023, 03:54 PM
Hello,
I have a problem. I've bought few days ago another clone, with STM32F429 chip. Package came today, I've install VCDS(haven't turned it on), plugged in cable - not recognized in Device Manager. Installed VIIPlus Loader, plugged out of USB, plugged in, drivers started installing, installed and then... poof. Blue LED turned off, tried on 2 different pc, 2 different USB cables, zero reaction on connecting interface. There was no information about drivers in readme that I've got from seller, also haven't found anything about it on web - I assume that ross-tech drivers works fine. Any ideas? Faulty one, or maybe accidentally I've broken something?

Not sure this cable needs one, but this might be FTDI driver issue. Be sure you've installed the correct driver (little "tinkered") to have things working.

hid3
8th September, 2023, 05:14 PM
FTDI driver for STM-based device? His cable has simply fried, that's the end of the story

litoski
9th September, 2023, 03:28 AM
Hello gentlemen, here I leave my contribution =)

VDCS 23.3 Full:cocksure::cocksure::cocksure:

https://mega.nz/folder/h3JyRCAR#o_C2yVjrGDAKHQE3rL1Alg

StanNB
9th September, 2023, 08:57 AM
Hello gentlemen, here I leave my contribution =)

VDCS 23.3 Full:cocksure::cocksure::cocksure:


Download always Genuine VCDS from RT Website! No risk of viruses

MrDerv
9th September, 2023, 08:32 PM
Hello gentlemen, here I leave my contribution =)

VDCS 23.3 Full:cocksure::cocksure::cocksure:

https://mega.nz/folder/h3JyRCAR#o_C2yVjrGDAKHQE3rL1Alg


Just download from RossTech website. No need to download through Mega.

miouser
11th September, 2023, 12:54 PM
Did Badrax replied to anyone recently?

Prototype
16th September, 2023, 12:10 PM
What would be the best latest (safe) VIIPLUS loader version for STM32F405?

StanNB
16th September, 2023, 01:57 PM
VIIPlusLoader-08.023.02. From Version 08.23.04 downgrade is blocked.

jach0o
16th September, 2023, 02:48 PM
Can you explain? What you mean blocked ? Is this version compatible with 23.3.1?

Wysłane z mojego Pixel 6 Pro przy użyciu Tapatalka

StanNB
16th September, 2023, 02:53 PM
What do you think what downgrade blocked means ??
Don’t know, just try.

Fabio89
21st September, 2023, 04:55 PM
Anyone has flash files from @Badrax ?

ovmeygat
24th September, 2023, 04:10 PM
I have some flash files but don't know how to flash it, as my intention is downgrading the firmware since but cable gives error "illegal device, the device is locked".

https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/1028175-Repair-locked-VCDS-STM32F405

heshamzn
24th September, 2023, 11:56 PM
im a seller and i bout 40 vcds with that damn 405 4 bin in the ship i used the latest viiploader and it locked and dead now what im gonna do how to sell it while it can b locked easly how can i use it safe ?

tooomikaaa
25th September, 2023, 12:50 AM
please help
The watch has been changed. the odometer light does not turn off after locking the car.
1T0 920 864A-->1T0 920 874A - on

MrDerv
25th September, 2023, 10:47 AM
im a seller and i bout 40 vcds with that damn 405 4 bin in the ship i used the latest viiploader and it locked and dead now what im gonna do how to sell it while it can b locked easly how can i use it safe ?
I wonder if Fly has anything to do with the bad loaders?

crouchinggerbil
25th September, 2023, 11:17 AM
well if he is the one making the loader then i'm not surprised lol

MrDerv
25th September, 2023, 01:43 PM
well if he is the one making the loader then i'm not surprised lol
Probably angry for being banned here :dontknow:

Fabio89
25th September, 2023, 09:57 PM
Nobody ? i need flash VCDS STM32F405 B03 with solution from Badrax

heshamzn
26th September, 2023, 07:46 AM
my friend i got 40 cable all stm405 sent to me by mistake - or scammer chines - im in a disaster can any one help

StanNB
26th September, 2023, 07:56 AM
Who needs 40 interfaces?? Just to buy cheap and sell clones for profits? lol

tooomikaaa
28th September, 2023, 08:30 PM
Hello
I want to ask for help. After changing the clock unit, the LCD display of the odometer switches off only 4 minutes after closing the door. Even if I close the doors. We put the clock in another touran and it works fine there. If anyone has encountered such a problem.

kalisz
30th September, 2023, 06:16 PM
Does anyone have download link for VCDS 23.3.0 version? I can't find it anywhere and it seems that's the last version working properly with the 08.023.02 VIIplus loader.

edit: found it here nevermind mega(dot)nz/folder/FwEBCSSL#rhBFzLZFQGF2L9yLvRVi6A/folder/oxdChBpL

APNT1984
30th September, 2023, 10:28 PM
Dear friends,
I tried viiplus loader v 08.23.07 by fly for vcds 23.3.1 latest one worked and secury code works for some modules not for all at least for me .
loader upgraded hex v2 to latest fw v01.10.02 and now when i use vcds 21.9 it scans but adaptations is not readable and is greyout for all modules.
I try every vii pluss loader but fw will NOT downgrade to previous versions.
How can i downgrade hex v2 frimware to lower versions that i had and worked well with 21.9 ?
Thanks in advance.

Bushas
1st October, 2023, 09:27 AM
Looks like loader archive file broken, maybe you managed to find working file

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 11:29 AM
Firmware can't be downgraded using VIIPlusLoader :( Many members have same issue. Anyonee who succeeded to solve this issue?

StanNB
1st October, 2023, 01:01 PM
If you read this Thread carefully you should know that downgrade isn’t possible anymore.

The solution is: don’t update the device. It’s not necessary to use the latest version.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 01:14 PM
I was curious to try the latest version which was offered to me automatically so VCDS cable got bricked after updating firmware :(

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 01:23 PM
I was curious to try the latest version which was offered to me automatically so VCDS cable got bricked after updating firmware :(

Curiosity killed the vci. What is wrong with you? You knew already before you messed up lol

StanNB
1st October, 2023, 01:30 PM
That’s the problem this times: People always want the latest version. But 95% don’t need it.
Update VCDS only if you need it. If you don’t want to code 2022+ MQB cars there is no need to update.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 01:33 PM
After I started VIIPlusLoader then firmware update started automatically so I couldn't skip it :( Many members had the same issue, firmware update can't be aborted :(

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 01:34 PM
That’s the problem this times: People always want the latest version. But 95% don’t need it.
Update VCDS only if you need it. If you don’t want to code 2022+ MQB cars there is no need to update.

The real problem is how fly was treated here and now you all are feeling the consequences.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 01:41 PM
Same situation is on other forums too. Many VCDS cables got bricked because of updating to the latest firmware :(

StanNB
1st October, 2023, 01:42 PM
He did all to get banned. But who is all ?? I don’t use VII Plus and don’t care about that shit.

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 01:42 PM
Same situation is on other forums too. Many VCDS cable got bricked because of updating to the latest firmware :(

Thats because your all using the same loader!

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 01:44 PM
Only latest versions of VIIPlusLoader will brick VCDS cable. It works fine with other older versions!

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 01:45 PM
Only latest versions of VIIPlusLoader will brick VCDS cable. It work fine with other older versions!

But you already knew this and yet you still bricked your vci...

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 01:47 PM
Unfortunately, I didn't know anything about that before:(

StanNB
1st October, 2023, 01:48 PM
But you already knew this and yet you still bricked your vci...

But why bricked? It works with latest version, too. Only downgrade is blocked.

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 01:49 PM
Unfortunately, I didn't know anything about that before:(

I dont even use it but I have known since fly was booted that theres a problem with bricked vci's

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 01:50 PM
It won't work because VCDS will be bricked. I know that because I'd already tried it :(

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 01:52 PM
It won't work because VCDS will be bricked. I know that because I'd already tried it :(

In my opinion you should forget about theses clones and buy an original vci. Free updates and no hassle. Only costs around 500

StanNB
1st October, 2023, 01:53 PM
It won't work because VCDS will be bricked. I know that because I'd already tried it :(


Then you got the cheap V2 with modded firmware and red cable on PCB. Cable from fly working fine with latest version.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 01:55 PM
Haha lol, many member here will never buy original VCDS because it costs much more than 500euros :(

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 01:56 PM
Haha lol, many member here will never buy original VCDS because it cost more than 500euros :(

But yet you are buying more than one clone vci lol


Some tools are worth investing in and this would be one of those.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 01:58 PM
This thread is opened only for clones and no one should talk about original VCDS :(

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 02:01 PM
This thread is opened only for clones and no one should talk about original VCDS :(

With all the talk in this thread you still bricked your vci. Its pointless with the many vci variants out there. The chinese dont give a ferk about you or whether their vci's work or not as long as people are buying them.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 02:06 PM
It's more pointless that you talk about VCDS which you don't use. If you can't help member you shouldn't overload this topic with your spammed posts :D

StanNB
1st October, 2023, 02:07 PM
This thread is opened only for clones and no one should talk about original VCDS :(

lol but all using original VCDS software. Made my day ��

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 02:09 PM
Almost all use clone VCDS cables :(

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 02:11 PM
It's more pointless that you talk about VCDS which you don't use. If you can't help member you shouldn't overload this topic with your spammed posts :D

Its not my fault you bricked your vci. Wouldn't happen if you bought original. All I am saying is this is a tool worth investing in the original. Yes, I don't use it because of these problems. How many clone vci's have you bought? Probably cover the cost of original one at this stage for a lot of people

StanNB
1st October, 2023, 02:12 PM
But original software. And this thread is not for clones only.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 02:15 PM
I know all that, you didn't help me with your advices. I've bought only one clone which I'm trying to repair. Of course I use other diagnostic tools too.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 02:16 PM
No one talks about original VCDS. If anyone have issues with OEM VCDS he should contact Ross-Tech company.

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 02:17 PM
I know all that, you didn't help me with your advices. I've bought only one clone which I'm trying to repair. Of course I use other diagnostic tools too.

Its not just my advice in this thread and you still ignored what was there and bricked your vci anyway. Sure a couple of years ago a clone was worth getting because they worked. Nowadays they are causing more problems than they are worth.

ITS ORIGINAL VCDS SOFTWARE YOU ARE USING!!! Only difference is the loaders!

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 02:21 PM
My VCDS is bricked before a few months and I'd spent only 25$ for it. I have no time for waste to read your useless advices :(

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 02:22 PM
My VCDS is bricked before a few months and I'd spent only 25$ for it. I have no time for waste to read your useless advices :(

What do you expect when thats all you pay for a vci lol

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 02:28 PM
This thread was locked before a few months because of spamming comments like yours :( I don't want to get it locked again so don't spam thread. I don't have time to argue with you :(

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 02:29 PM
This thread was locked before a few months because of spamming comments like yours :( I don't want to get it locked again so don't spam thread. I don't have time to argue with you :(

I know why it was closed I was here lol If you dont like the advice given no need to cry about losing $25

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 02:41 PM
I was there too and I don't cry for anything and many member would like to solve this issue because it can happen again to anyone. You're continuing to spam this topic. No one of your 20 previous comments weren't useful for anyone. You didn't help anyone with you advices. If you don't know anything about VCDS flashing and you haven't ever done something like that you don't need to talk about it. That's my last comment to you and discussion with you is over :D

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 02:45 PM
I was there too and I don't cry for anything and many member would like to solve this issue because it can happen to anyone. You're continuing to spam this topic. No one of your 20 previous comments weren't useful for anyone. You didn't help anyone with you advices. If you don't know anything about VCDS flashing and you haven't ever do something like that you don't need to talk about it. That's my last comment to you and discussion with you is over :D

You are mistaken there mate. Just because I do not use these now does not mean I have never used them or flashed them so I do know what I am talking about lol

Not my fault you cannot afford more than $25 and expect miracles to happen with it. ALSO your understanding that someone can crack RDP2 lol If it could be done there would be no problem with clone chips today lol

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 03:29 PM
Another bit of advice/knowledge. If they are using RDP2, now you really are ferked! You should only stick to the version that came with your cable because even with RDP2 it becomes harder to update and there's a much higher risk of bricking your vci! Its a win win situation for the chinese. Either you buy newer vcis with newer versions or run the risk of bricking your vci lol

APNT1984
1st October, 2023, 03:40 PM
Dear friend,
Mine upgraded to latest fw but still works with latest vcds and still works security codes for some modules not all, i think i saw a link for unbrick the hex v2 with flashing it onboard.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 03:46 PM
Post this link here and if you have proper dumps post them too!

Sent from my SM-M336BU using Tapatalk

APNT1984
1st October, 2023, 03:49 PM
Dear friends
I'm agree that oem hex v2 doesn't have this problems but still unlimited oem hex v2 is too expensive for personal purpose and if you lost or damge to it you will lose huge money and not affordable to get new one.
But for clone one in worst scenario you will lose 25 box and get new one.
I thinks its better to help each other instead of fighting together.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 03:51 PM
And what about link which you had mentioned in previous post?

Sent from my SM-M336BU using Tapatalk

APNT1984
1st October, 2023, 04:19 PM
I just found this

APNT1984
1st October, 2023, 04:21 PM
I can't find link or removed but inside of that is a zip i sent for you but i dont have any idea how must use.
If you find any solution share fir others.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 04:25 PM
Haha lol , that's a dump from my (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/1028175-Repair-locked-VCDS-STM32F405) thread which I've opened before a few months. You should have read whole thread before posted it here :(

APNT1984
1st October, 2023, 05:30 PM
I just tried to help you.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 05:55 PM
But unfortunately you didn't help me :( There isn't anything new for me!

StanNB
1st October, 2023, 07:15 PM
Your answer is in this thread. If your V2 is locked aka. bricked it’s impossible to solve the issue. The lock is permanently. No way to change this.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 07:24 PM
Dude, everything may be possible if you know what you're doing ;)

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 07:30 PM
Dude, everything may be possible if you know what you're doing ;)

Until that time you may as well buy another hex v2. Remember to spend a bit more than on a cheapo $25 piece of junk.

Smart66
1st October, 2023, 07:57 PM
Haha lol, I don't need any advices or help from you as I said before discussion with you is over. I got bored with your stupid posts. Please don't address to me anymore, just relax and find other place and try to spam there :)

crouchinggerbil
1st October, 2023, 07:58 PM
Haha lol, I don't need any advices or help from you as I said before discussion with you is over. I got bored with your stupid posts. Please don't address to me anyone, just relax and find other place and try to spam there :)

Good luck recovering your $25 lol lol lol

StanNB
1st October, 2023, 08:13 PM
Dude, everything may be possible if you know what you're doing ;)

I know it and it’s not.

Jomsha
3rd October, 2023, 09:33 AM
Hi everyone,
Lot of pages here and i'm not sure about something...

I want to buy new HEX v2,
Saw on Aliexpress the ST32f405/429.
This is the device to go?

And which one is preferred, 405 or 429?

Thanks 😊

Smart66
3rd October, 2023, 09:45 AM
That's absolutely the same :) All features are same on 405 and 429 too!

Jomsha
3rd October, 2023, 10:07 AM
That's absolutely the same :) All features are same on 405 and 429 too!

Thank you,
So this is the device to go with?
Can I use the original software? Modded software?
Disable internet access?

MrDerv
3rd October, 2023, 11:39 AM
Hi everyone,
Lot of pages here and i'm not sure about something...

I want to buy new HEX v2,
Saw on Aliexpress the ST32f405/429.
This is the device to go?

And which one is preferred, 405 or 429?

Thanks 
429, its the latest STM used, and has less issues than the earlier 405/415

Jomsha
3rd October, 2023, 01:50 PM
You think the PCB looks high quality?
Capacitors are not SMD...

https://ibb.co/qsKgYzV
https://ibb.co/swJgSMR

Smart66
3rd October, 2023, 02:50 PM
All ST32f4XX series should work with cars unitil 2023 but VCDS with ATMEGA 162 works only until 2017 :(

StanNB
7th October, 2023, 01:47 AM
RT released an update of GERMAN VCDS 23.3.1 (DRV)

DS346.2 from 06-10-2023.

https://filecrypt.cc/Container/EAC6BD2671.html

p1p1ch
8th October, 2023, 03:45 PM
today i try vcds new version 23.3.. do you know maybe why newer version doesnt work for me?
when i install and go to aplication it said that i need to plug in with usb, but i plug it.. it wont work..i try everything.. but when i test it,cant find interface and it said that i need to plug in or replug usb cable or interface... older version 21.9 work but newer 23.3 doesnt work. if you have any info i wanna hear it

nicolas2015
11th October, 2023, 07:18 PM
What is the most stable and recent VAG com? Obviously not original!

MrDerv
12th October, 2023, 08:43 AM
What is the most stable and recent VAG com? Obviously not original!

I use 08.22.09.005 loader with 22.10 on the STM32F429. It works for me.

Every time i've tried jumping to 23+, i run into issues, Security access being one of them. And reading that peoples Hex-V2's have bricked lately with newer loaders, i'm sticking to what i've got.

Smart66
12th October, 2023, 09:16 AM
Have you disconnected your PC from internet access or blocked VCDS in windows firewall ? That's necessary, isn't it ?

nicolas2015
12th October, 2023, 06:52 PM
Any good seller?

Mario6
12th October, 2023, 09:23 PM
Any good seller?

Try "SKLAD 66".
They offer a "real" "VCD$ HEX V2", which according to them does not require any "loader".
In my case, the cost including shipping is (+,-) 120 euros.
(I got Opcom from them)

-HEX V2 interface -109 eur
-shipping cost-8 eur

MrDerv
13th October, 2023, 08:46 AM
Try "SKLAD 66".
They offer a "real" "VCD$ HEX V2", which according to them does not require any "loader".
In my case, the cost including shipping is (+,-) 120 euros.
(I got Opcom from them)
The one for 120, is Hex-Can in a Hex-V2 shell. That will be ATMEGA and won't work on anything after 2017. 199 euro is Hex-V2, but it is also a clone, which is more expensive than Aliexpress.

If he's claiming it will work without loader, thats partially correct, until you need to do anything that requires Security Access.

badrax
13th October, 2023, 10:22 AM
Try "SKLAD 66".
They offer a "real" "VCD$ HEX V2", which according to them does not require any "loader".
In my case, the cost including shipping is (+,-) 120 euros.
(I got Opcom from them)

Perhaps some one could get in contact with them and ask for a picture of the PCB.
Or even better. Buy one and share the info here :)

Smart66
13th October, 2023, 10:36 AM
I'd like to see picture of PCB of this VCDS cable too :)

miouser
13th October, 2023, 11:36 AM
@MrDerv

you wrong. sklad66 sell real hex v2 diag.ecwid.com/USB-CAN-Diagnostics-for-VAG-V-2-p105827176
but he also has problems :(
I couldn't read 01 and 5F on A3 8Y

badrax
I wrote to you that I have such a cable, but unfortunately you didn’t read mine PNs

MrDerv
13th October, 2023, 12:37 PM
@MrDerv

you wrong. sklad66 sell real hex v2 diag.ecwid.com/USB-CAN-Diagnostics-for-VAG-V-2-p105827176
but he also has problems :(
I couldn't read 01 and 5F on A3 8Y

badrax
I wrote to you that I have such a cable, but unfortunately you didn’t read mine PNs

Its not a real Hex-V2 then. Look at the pics of the devices, the label is not a ross-tech one, so it will be a clone.

Smart66
13th October, 2023, 02:36 PM
It's clone version too but it works without a loader :) Original VCDS cable can't be as cheap as this cable!

MrDerv
13th October, 2023, 03:22 PM
It's clone version too but it works without a loader :) Original VCDS cable can't be as cheap as this cable!
I never said original was cheaper. I said the Sklad66 clone was more expensive than Aliexpress clones. Given that they say their V2 has support for vehicles after 2018, then it will most certainly be an STM32F429 device.

Even the clone STM32F429 can do VCDS without loader, but the moment security access is required, you need the loader. Why pay more than twice the price for the Sklad one when you can get the F429 from Ali?

badrax
13th October, 2023, 03:30 PM
badrax
I wrote to you that I have such a cable, but unfortunately you didn’t read mine PNs


Sorry but I can't remember that.
Perhaps you can share the PCB layout here then?

MichaelKors
13th October, 2023, 07:29 PM
Waiting for 23.7 release, now it's just Beta.

miouser
15th October, 2023, 07:03 PM
skla66 Interface look like fly v2
https://abload.de/thumb/img_20231015_195421wrdur.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20231015_195421wrdur.jpg) https://abload.de/thumb/img_20231015_195428haedg.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20231015_195428haedg.jpg)

Smart66
15th October, 2023, 07:43 PM
It really looks like fly cable. Can you post more images in HD resolution? I can't see many details on these small pictures :(

miouser
15th October, 2023, 08:00 PM
@Smart66

i have changed the pics.
look again.

Smart66
15th October, 2023, 08:09 PM
That's what I was looking for :) Now, all is much clearer :)

MrDerv
15th October, 2023, 10:02 PM
Those internals are the same as the 429 i have. Thats definitely a clone, so will need the loader if you want to do security access.

As its a 429, its also rather expensive compared to the 429's on Aliexpress

Mangaia
17th October, 2023, 09:10 PM
Hello, Does anyone have the VCDS 12.12 version? As I found a VAG12.12 cable laying around and I wanna see if it works. Even with version 15.11 doesn't find the interface :( Thanks in advance!

crouchinggerbil
17th October, 2023, 09:17 PM
Hello, Does anyone have the VCDS 12.12 version? As I found a VAG12.12 cable laying around and I wanna see if it works. Even with version 15.11 doesn't find the interface :( Thanks in advance!

Look on ross-tech website

Mario6
17th October, 2023, 10:06 PM
Hello, Does anyone have the VCDS 12.12 version? As I found a VAG12.12 cable laying around and I wanna see if it works. Even with version 15.11 doesn't find the interface :( Thanks in advance!

Here you go.
It works with the old interface (12.12.0) without a 'loader'.

Mangaia
17th October, 2023, 11:50 PM
Here you go.
It works with the old interface (12.12.0) without a 'loader'.

For some reason I get this issue with every version :( https://imgur.com/a/LGRgiTe
990971990970

Mario6
18th October, 2023, 09:38 AM
In my case it looks like this, without connection to the car.
Check how your interface reports in the device manager.
https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/332046-VCSD-Repair-your-vcds-step-by-step?highlight=vcds+repair

You can also try SW VCD$ 12.12.3EN.

a1pp4
19th October, 2023, 07:21 PM
Could someone help a little, or does anyone know about:
I have on my laptop windows 7 and 10. In windows 7 i have vcds 20.4.1 with loader (atmega cable). Now i bought stm32f429 cable and vcds is installed to windows 10 with loader.

Is there any worries? Seller said need to uninstall v1 loader because vcds can see that and block my pc? They are not in same drive.

Seems stm32f429 cable is disconnecting some times while im at some model like engine and doing basic settings, is that because i use new software? Should i use older software? Because my atmega works ALOT better...

Mangaia
19th October, 2023, 09:11 PM
In my case it looks like this, without connection to the car.
Check how your interface reports in the device manager.
https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/332046-VCSD-Repair-your-vcds-step-by-step?highlight=vcds+repair

You can also try SW VCD$ 12.12.3EN.

I just tested it, however I got the same error. I downloaded the 12.12.3 installer and installed it. In the Device Manager it is recognised as "Ross-Tech Direct USB Interface".

Idk if you have any other ideas, if not I'll have to mark this cable as toast :(

miouser
20th October, 2023, 02:18 AM
@Mangaia

search for VCDSLoader v9.2 from Kolimer on this thread!

use VAGCOM_EEWriteLang.exe to flash FW and then you can use newer vcds versions over VCDSLoader.exe

a1pp4
20th October, 2023, 04:36 AM
I have used latest viiplusloader and vcds, can i use older loader and vcds after uninstall?

Can someone share 08.22.09.005 loader with 22.10

MichaelKors
20th October, 2023, 10:17 PM
Here you are.

headshotde
21st October, 2023, 07:57 AM
skla66 Interface look like fly v2
https://abload.de/thumb/img_20231015_195421wrdur.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20231015_195421wrdur.jpg) https://abload.de/thumb/img_20231015_195428haedg.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20231015_195428haedg.jpg)


i have the same from ali for 30$
anyone knows how to dump arm?


can anyone explain what is the difernce betwen
upgradeable -> 70$ Cable
non upgrade -> 30$ Cable

Same hardware but diferent software on the STM32F429
when iam able to dump the 70$ flash from STM and flash it to 30$ it will be update? :beguiled:

maybe this pinout on pcb

fady88
21st October, 2023, 12:36 PM
Thanks miouser!

gini80
25th October, 2023, 06:52 PM
992583 pinout for this pcb?

bg17aw
26th October, 2023, 09:22 AM
I use 08.22.09.005 loader with 22.10 on the STM32F429. It works for me.

Every time i've tried jumping to 23+, i run into issues, Security access being one of them. And reading that peoples Hex-V2's have bricked lately with newer loaders, i'm sticking to what i've got.
I have a 405 one (from fly I think?)
Right now I am using it with 23.3.0 and loader 08.023.02, seems to work.

If you know what to test precisely, I could try.

MrDerv
26th October, 2023, 10:03 AM
I have a 405 one (from fly I think?)
Right now I am using it with 23.3.0 and loader 08.023.02, seems to work.

If you know what to test precisely, I could try.
I'm sticking with what i've got, works fine, no need for me to update.

Smart66
26th October, 2023, 10:25 AM
Newer versions of loader may brick VCDS cable so it's better to use older versions.

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MichaelKors
26th October, 2023, 10:08 PM
I'm using 08.023.07 with 23.3.0 with no problems.

Smart66
26th October, 2023, 10:16 PM
The newest version I've got is 08.023.04. Could you post download link of this 08.023.07 version? I couldn't find it out on DK forum :(

ZIPPO4594
27th October, 2023, 01:10 PM
@Smart66 :
Hi,

link of VIIPlusloader 08.23.07 :
https://mega.nz/file/lI9RjBpJ#mvE0jr2m3zhkcjRbMBTpQwTHQA8XvLubEZ7XJiTHX j4

Smart66
27th October, 2023, 02:38 PM
Thanks! Is it the latest version of VIIPlusLoader ?

MichaelKors
27th October, 2023, 06:09 PM
Yes, it's the latest.

mugurmugurel
28th October, 2023, 02:30 PM
Hi, i tried to update vcds arm, with viiplus v08.023.07 and after update the interface won't connect with the gateway. I tried to install vcds 22.10 and 23.3. I attaches pictures.
https://ibb.co/R2pxpdd
https://ibb.co/88h95C4
https://ibb.co/zbPt25p
https://ibb.co/YDvDNPh
https://ibb.co/WcX3Bqx
https://ibb.co/9v7f2zn

bg17aw
29th October, 2023, 08:26 AM
@Smart66 :
Hi,

link of VIIPlusloader 08.23.07 :
https://mega.nz/file/lI9RjBpJ#mvE0jr2m3zhkcjRbMBTpQwTHQA8XvLubEZ7XJiTHX j4

But why would you install latest loader when we know it will lock/brick cables?
There is a good topic on this here https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/1028175-Repair-locked-VCDS-STM32F405?p=4561596&viewfull=1#post4561596

Smart66
29th October, 2023, 10:11 AM
I know all that because that is my topic. I didn't say that I would install this version of loader :(

Gaxal
31st October, 2023, 12:14 PM
Hi!
My question is, is worth it?
What kind of chip is in it?

https://www.obd2cartool.com/forvw-group-repair-tool-c-1_42/hotfree-ship-vag-com-2331-hex-v2-interface-mqb-v2-diagnose-p-1388.html

MrDerv
31st October, 2023, 04:33 PM
Hi!
My question is, is worth it?
What kind of chip is in it?

https://www.obd2cartool.com/forvw-group-repair-tool-c-1_42/hotfree-ship-vag-com-2331-hex-v2-interface-mqb-v2-diagnose-p-1388.html

It doesn't specifically say. It will be STM based since they link the ATMega device in the listing for older cars. Its a chinese website.

But which STM 405/415/429?

You are best buying from Aliexpress, at least their listings state which one, and you have buyer protection if paying with Paypal.

wiechec
2nd November, 2023, 01:08 PM
VCDS 23.11.0 released.

MichaelKors
3rd November, 2023, 12:10 AM
Anyone tested it with VIIPlusloader 08.23.07 ?

Billyym
3rd November, 2023, 11:54 AM
Link not working mate.

Billyym
3rd November, 2023, 11:57 AM
Ignore me. I thought it was link to the latest Viiplusloader loader.

a1pp4
3rd November, 2023, 01:02 PM
Hi!
My question is, is worth it?
What kind of chip is in it?

https://www.obd2cartool.com/forvw-group-repair-tool-c-1_42/hotfree-ship-vag-com-2331-hex-v2-interface-mqb-v2-diagnose-p-1388.html

Its stm32f 405/407 or 429, you can choose. Just ask from seller. I bought that like 1 month ago, it works but i have tried on old car only. Only thing i dont know why vut it is slow sometimes, not sure is it about software/pc or old car. Atmega works alot faster.
If you need for 2015 -> that is what you need? Or you can buy 100% same chip from aliexpress like 80-90$? If you trust for seller :D
You get better service from obd2cartool. I have bought all my cables from there and customer service is good, i got good discount last time when i bought ds150e and that stm32f429 cable :) Also shipping was fast and no customs! They did do all for shipping to europe without need pay vat

Screpicoco
4th November, 2023, 07:58 PM
Hello. why doesn't it detect my stm 405 cable 994376

miouser
5th November, 2023, 10:34 PM
@Screpicoco

why you use this loader?
some one use badrax staff and created another fly-fake.
this is for cable without update function. they sell it for half price ($40)
fly-v2 don't work with it!

there is exactly the same loader with an inscription kolimer for hex-can v1. I think that he is from the same cunning Chinese :listen:

Screpicoco
5th November, 2023, 11:00 PM
Thank you. I already talked to the fly and everything is already resolved. :o

maniak321
7th November, 2023, 08:28 AM
Hello Badrax, can u help me back to life my cable STM32F405?? How i can reflash this cable?? Via uart STLink? PLS send to me

a1pp4
9th November, 2023, 04:22 PM
Hi!
My question is, is worth it?
What kind of chip is in it?

https://www.obd2cartool.com/forvw-group-repair-tool-c-1_42/hotfree-ship-vag-com-2331-hex-v2-interface-mqb-v2-diagnose-p-1388.html
Here is some pictures from that item,
Does anyone know what component U6 is? It has no writing...

Seems this is same what aliexpress etc sells? Can anyone say is there something false? Its pretty laggy on k-line audi, atmega works alot better and faster

badrax
9th November, 2023, 06:39 PM
Hello Badrax, can u help me back to life my cable STM32F405?? How i can reflash this cable?? Via uart STLink? PLS send to me

If the chip is locked to RDP2 then the debug interface is disabled and you can’t connect a debugger to it.
I assume this is a FLY cable and if it is then most likely RDP2


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Billyym
9th November, 2023, 09:25 PM
995257
995258

Anyone seen this error and how to resolve. Have tried vcds 22.10, 23.3 and 23.3.1 and still no luck lol.

MrDerv
9th November, 2023, 09:40 PM
Here is some pictures from that item,
Does anyone know what component U6 is? It has no writing...

Seems this is same what aliexpress etc sells? Can anyone say is there something false? Its pretty laggy on k-line audi, atmega works alot better and faster
That will definitely need the loader then if you are going to do anything that requires coding/security access

Pater Fortunato
10th November, 2023, 12:05 PM
995257
995258

Anyone seen this error and how to resolve. Have tried vcds 22.10, 23.3 and 23.3.1 and still no luck lol.

YES MAN!

1st step: you must have already installed the VIIPlus Loader(compatible with vcds software) and the vcds software. The icons must be on desktop.
2nd step: with your vcds cable connected only open VIIPLus Loader (dont press start vcds or more info...) and on this VIIPLus Loader opened DRAG the icon vcds.exe from desktop to VIIPlus Loader and automatically will run and start that software.
The reason of your error it is that the VIIPlus Loader only run and start the latest vcds software opened before. And an old software it is now it his memory...

Dont forget to THANKS me!

Tomas003
10th November, 2023, 06:43 PM
Hi, maybe you have the firmware for this cable?
The cable does not work.
STM32F405...
B03-ST v23.3
995409995410995408

Tomas003
10th November, 2023, 06:53 PM
Hi, please download link this soft. Thanks


Hello. why doesn't it detect my stm 405 cabl
e 994376

Tomas003
10th November, 2023, 06:59 PM
Hi, did it work? Please link.

Tomas003
10th November, 2023, 07:01 PM
Hi, did it work? Please link.


Hello Badrax, can u help me back to life my cable STM32F405?? How i can reflash this cable?? Via uart STLink? PLS send to me

badrax
10th November, 2023, 09:48 PM
Hi, maybe you have the firmware for this cable?
The cable does not work.
STM32F405...
B03-ST v23.3
995409995410995408


If you are lucky then you can flash this with the FLY firmware I released some time a go using a STM debugger. I think this type of cable might be preset to RDP1.

But if this cable was bought to use with any newer version of VCDS then 20.4.1 it is probably already flashed with this FLY firmware and you tried to upgrade it using VIIPlus loader? If this is the case then you are out of luck and cable is bricked.


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Tomas003
11th November, 2023, 07:54 AM
Yes, software 23.3. VIIPlusLoader update required:
995474

Stuck during update.
Can it be fixed?


If you are lucky then you can flash this with the FLY firmware I released some time a go using a STM debugger. I think this type of cable might be preset to RDP1.

But if this cable was bought to use with any newer version of VCDS then 20.4.1 it is probably already flashed with this FLY firmware and you tried to upgrade it using VIIPlus loader? If this is the case then you are out of luck and cable is bricked.


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quikcar
13th November, 2023, 02:02 PM
HI


I need help with VIIPlusLoader 08.023.07 for VCDS 23.3.1


device not found
I don't know if the problem is from the loader or from the cable
I have this cable


thx

Pfennig
13th November, 2023, 03:35 PM
by the look this is not a stm32-chip... the VIIPlusLoader will not work with this version of the device.

Pfennig
13th November, 2023, 03:38 PM
badrax,

where can I download your loader? I want to try to flash my dead cable... thx in advance.

MrDerv
13th November, 2023, 04:32 PM
HI


I need help with VIIPlusLoader 08.023.07 for VCDS 23.3.1


device not found
I don't know if the problem is from the loader or from the cable
I have this cable


thx
ViiPlusLoader will not work with that device. Its not STM32 based

MichaelKors
16th November, 2023, 08:22 AM
Do you guys know if there is a new loader for 23.11 or it works with the old loader that we used for 23.3 ?

anticzd
18th November, 2023, 07:59 AM
996660996661
Hello guys
I have problem with long coding.
I can do auto scan but when i try long coding and input security access key i get: Controller refused the key!
Error 00: Unknown (0x00)

What can i do?
My car is seat ibiza 2017

sanshao
19th November, 2023, 05:07 PM
Badrax, is it your cable?

996866

996867

996868

996869

996870

badrax
19th November, 2023, 05:09 PM
Badrax, is it your cable?

996866

996867

996868

996869

996870

No
I have nothing to do with this.
Might be FLY that is having fun or whatever.


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sanshao
19th November, 2023, 05:12 PM
No
I have nothing to do with this.
Might be FLY that is having fun or whatever.


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Why is that? so strange!

Why would fly use your name?

badrax
19th November, 2023, 05:21 PM
Why is that? so strange!

Why would fly use your name?


I have no clue why he did this.
But he also used Kolimers name.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/6a47e245f6f4b07309370b2fc3b13e3b.jpg


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badrax
19th November, 2023, 05:28 PM
Why is that? so strange!

Why would fly use your name?

Perhaps he got pissed coz I publicly shared all his flaws I found in the previous firmware.
Or perhaps he is just trying to increase sales? Who knows.
But he is a bit strange if you ask me. His neurons are connected differently compared to the rest of us :)


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sanshao
19th November, 2023, 05:36 PM
Perhaps he got pissed coz I publicly shared all his flaws I found in the previous firmware.
Or perhaps he is just trying to increase sales? Who knows.
But he is a bit strange if you ask me. His neurons are connected differently compared to the rest of us :)


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Why do your devices built with fly vcds hex-v2 firmware always get locked ?

badrax
19th November, 2023, 05:40 PM
Why do your devices built with fly vcds hex-v2 firmware always get locked ?

I have never made any device.
Perhaps elaborate a bit which device you are referring to?


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sanshao
19th November, 2023, 05:43 PM
I have never made any device.
Perhaps elaborate a bit which device you are referring to?


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Everyone knows you use fly vcds hex-v2 firmware to build and sell your products

badrax
19th November, 2023, 05:48 PM
Everyone knows you use fly vcds hex-v2 firmware to build and sell your products

Nope. Not true.
I have never made any device and will never do so.
All my research is for knowledge and fun. I have never made a singe $ of my work.
If you think otherwise then you are misinformed.


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sanshao
19th November, 2023, 05:51 PM
Nope. Not true.
I have never made any device and will never do so.
All my research is for knowledge and fun. I have never made a singe $ of my work.
If you think otherwise then you are misinformed.


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Why is the device I bought from you locked

3 cables were brick

badrax
19th November, 2023, 06:18 PM
Why is the device I bought from you locked

3 cables were brick

Again. Perhaps elaborate what device you are referring to since I never sold or made any device.


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Smart66
19th November, 2023, 07:59 PM
@sanshao (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/858978-sanshao)
Where did you buy this VCDS cable? I've never seen this type of loader before :(

mrben
19th November, 2023, 08:09 PM
[emoji1751][emoji23]996893

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Smart66
19th November, 2023, 08:23 PM
That's definitely bad clone as many others :( How much did you pay for this VCDS cable?

mrben
19th November, 2023, 10:09 PM
Why is the device I bought from you locked

3 cables were brick@sanshao are you Wu Shao or Fly Gary? you've created account few days ago on this forum and come with accusations to users that help the community? you are to pissed on badrax from what i can see from 1st of your posts on this forum and i know one Chines who's pissed on this community and badrax and that is Fly Gary, so if you don't stop with accusations (since you didn't read anything on this thread forum) to anyone from this thread especially to badrax who solved what Fly engineers weren't able to solve, you may get banned. I'm pretty sure you are Fly Gary or from Fly company, check attached photos.
Am i wrong, do you feel good with the accusations i make to you?
If I'm wrong, stop with any accusations, behave like other users and try to help or let others help you if they can, no one in this thread is selling hex v2 clones at all, especially badrax.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/c54fd00768b055f43005c592d38eeaea.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/59377cd545f5e469d0f8ff98b592eb4d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/ae1e45dec90dfb5e5c096f4b6f0290b0.jpg

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Smart66
19th November, 2023, 10:23 PM
I really don't know who is he but his account is created recently :) @flyfvdi (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/736507-flyfvdi)who was selling his cables here has been banned a 5-6 months ago :(

MrDerv
19th November, 2023, 10:30 PM
Everyone knows you use fly vcds hex-v2 firmware to build and sell your products
That is absolute horsemuck. Read through this entire thread. Fly accused badrax of copying his hardware, when in actual fact Badrax was working out firmware to get members cables up and running again IF they are bricked.

Stop throwing accusations. Fly got a ban for exactly this behaviour

Tomas003
20th November, 2023, 05:21 AM
New version link:
https://mega.nz/folder/7N0jHLTI#eRoLKAjkNSzGQBxPqHYuLw

drdahmani2
20th November, 2023, 06:05 AM
[QUOTE=mrben;4648116]@sanshao are you Wu Shao or Fly Gary? you've created account few days ago on this forum and come with accusations to users that help the community? you are to pissed on badrax from what i can see from 1st of your posts on this forum and i know one Chines who's pissed on this community and badrax and that is Fly Gary, so if you don't stop with accusations (since you didn't read anything on this thread forum) to anyone from this thread especially to badrax who solved what Fly engineers weren't able to solve, you may get banned. I'm pretty sure you are Fly Gary or from Fly company, check attached photos.
Am i wrong, do you feel good with the accusations i make to you?
If I'm wrong, stop with any accusations, behave like other users and try to help or let others help you if they can, no one in this thread is selling hex v2 clones at all, especially badrax.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/c54fd00768b055f43005c592d38eeaea.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/59377cd545f5e469d0f8ff98b592eb4d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/ae1e45dec90dfb5e5c096f4b6f0290b0.jpg



I totally confirm The chinese are playing with us


always Trust Badrax, He is an excellent Guy who make research, has been helping us fro long time and never asked for money and did not release any device,
I personnally do not like these Clone chinese especially this Fly Gary

This forum helped us and please keep polite
do not accusate and respect all specially BadRax

MichaelKors
20th November, 2023, 07:35 AM
VCDS 23.11 and VIIPlusLoader 08.023.11

https://mega.nz/folder/7N0jHLTI#eRoLKAjkNSzGQBxPqHYuLw

phate
20th November, 2023, 10:03 AM
Hello, i updated my HEX-V2 cable with STM32F405 chip and got Illegal device, the device is locked. Is there anything i can do or is it ruined? Thank you very much.

bitmaker
20th November, 2023, 11:15 AM
is here somebody that can share with us the Badrax Loader?

mrben
20th November, 2023, 02:13 PM
Hello, i updated my HEX-V2 cable with STM32F405 chip and got Illegal device, the device is locked. Is there anything i can do or is it ruined? Thank you very much.Unfortunately there's no solution yet, please also post photos both sides of your PCB from inside the case to see what version of stm405 got locked.
Also please specify which loader version used to update your cable.

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mrben
20th November, 2023, 02:40 PM
Has anyone tried to update FW with new loader 08.023.11 on the 405 PCB (see photos)? Anyone got locked, illegal device on this 405 PCB after updating with loaders 08.023.04 - 08.023.11 ?
I have seen until now that got locked a different stm405 PCB than mine.
Users shall start post photos of PCBs that got locked to warn other users to be careful with FW update with new loaders.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231120/9d6ba9bfd1fa118afdaa57df19d74ac8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231120/2b064e75f78966453ee2e2296a6f0e16.jpg

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mrben
20th November, 2023, 07:04 PM
From what i have seen, on AliExpress most of the sellers of stm429 are providing with the cable a package that contain VCD$ and KolimerVII Loader (displayed interface when you open) and when execute the exe is named BadraxVII Loader, and also on AliExpress sellers are selling same stm429 with same loader but with interface BadraxVII Loader as per photo of sanshao. The sellers warn you to not use Viiplusloader at all, their engineers will provide you updated loader that work with desired VCD$.
So, chinese sellers probably got pissed by Fly too by locking cables not manufactured by Fly but by others, and created their own loaders but with Kolimer and Badrax name for notoriety, pretty sure, to increase the sells.
So, from my point of view who received, who has received such a cable with other loaders instead of viiplusloader, better stay away from viiplusloader, especially starting with 08.023.04+, if you have a working cable with the other loaders and viiplusloader under 08.023.04 too, stay with, don't update.

rak183
21st November, 2023, 12:11 PM
How much coast fly interface?

Pfennig
21st November, 2023, 12:15 PM
guys, please share the link to the Kolimer and Badrax Loader for STM32F405 - I'll try to run with them... omg, this shit from FLY killed my cable.

mrben
21st November, 2023, 02:13 PM
@Pfennig when you ordered your cable, this year, from AliExpress? can you also post photos with PCB of your STM32F405 that got killed? I'm interested to see what PCBs got locked by viiplusloader.
Short info: STM32F405 based interfaces bought at least 2 years ago, seems to not get locked/killed. On other forums some users says didn't have problem interface STM32F405 bought 2 years ago, mine is also 2 years old STM32F405 based, i posted 2 photos few comments back (i will test this week the loader :afraid: :stoned:)

Pfennig
21st November, 2023, 02:26 PM
one on one like here:
https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/1028175-Repair-locked-VCDS-STM32F405?p=4620956&viewfull=1#post4620956

ZIPPO4594
21st November, 2023, 02:48 PM
Hi,

my cable hex-v2, STM32F405 based, was bought 10/2020 on AliExpress and works fine with vcds 23.3.1 FRM and VIIPlusLoader 08.023.7. No problem

mrben
21st November, 2023, 03:13 PM
Mine bought on March 2021 STM405 based from AliExpress, and used and using with viiplusloader from the beginning, i will test 08.023.11 this week too, hope to not have a problem starting from now.
Probably, these were manufactured by Fly...

LE: just updated to 08.023.11 also FW and not get locked, working with to 23.11.0.
So, do not updated via viiplusloader if you recently ordered from AliExpress 405/429, if your seller didn't confirmed it's working with viiplusloader, otherwise your interface get locked. Use loader provided by seller only.

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MichaelKors
21st November, 2023, 04:10 PM
Mine is also STM405 chip 2020/2021 and just updated to VCDS 23.11 with VIIPlusLoader 08.023.11.

AudiS4
21st November, 2023, 05:55 PM
Anyone have link for the most current clone that works?

Tomas003
22nd November, 2023, 07:41 AM
Good working my stm405
997348


New version link:
https://mega.nz/folder/7N0jHLTI#eRoLKAjkNSzGQBxPqHYuLw

nitrox
22nd November, 2023, 08:59 AM
Pretty sure the Badrax Loader actually comes from Fly. It makes a POST Request to this address when opening the exe:
http://www.fly431.com/flyobd/webservice/WsForOEMVII

Seems like it wants to check whether you have a real Fly cable and should use the VIILoader or not

MrDerv
22nd November, 2023, 09:43 AM
Pretty sure the Badrax Loader actually comes from Fly. It makes a POST Request to this address when opening the exe:
http://www.fly431.com/flyobd/webservice/WsForOEMVII

Seems like it wants to check whether you have a real Fly cable and should use the VIILoader or not
EDITED.

Apologies for the rant.

nitrox
22nd November, 2023, 10:02 AM
What makes you say that? You are newly registered to the forum, and this is your second post?

Do you have any evidence to support your statement?

Yet another post accusation against Badrax, getting sick of it :offended:

My post literally is against Fly and not Badrax. I said that the BadraxVII Loader is not from Badrax (as he already confirmed) and that it is most likely from Fly since it’s connecting to his domain.

I’ll upload a screenshot of the wireshark cap later.

Also i’m usually in another another forum and i thought i might as well post it here too

mrben
22nd November, 2023, 10:37 AM
yes agree with @nitrox , i have stated the same few post back, kolimer/badrax loader is a chinese loader with false name to increase the sells due to notoriety names on this forum

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MrDerv
22nd November, 2023, 11:57 AM
My post literally is against Fly and not Badrax. I said that the BadraxVII Loader is not from Badrax (as he already confirmed) and that it is most likely from Fly since it’s connecting to his domain.

I’ll upload a screenshot of the wireshark cap later.

Also i’m usually in another another forum and i thought i might as well post it here too

My apologies then. A bit more context as to where the loader came from would have helped in the original post.

Thanks for confirming, I'll edit my post :friendly_wink:

Pfennig
22nd November, 2023, 01:01 PM
Guys, everyone just needs to calm down... it's not about the loaders - it's about the device versions themselves. On AliExpress there are upgradeable (expensive) and non-updateable (cheap PCB: B03-ST), despite the fact that the chip STM32F405 is soldered. users of cheap versions (like me), who tried to update, ended up with dead. I think this is largely our fault - the seller immediately warned: to use only and ONLY the version of the program and loader on the CD/DVD that came with the kit. yes, the trick worked for a while... but then the greedy bastard FLY changed something in his soft. in general, don't take risks with updated versions - it's not worth it. )))

MrDerv
22nd November, 2023, 02:02 PM
Guys, everyone just needs to calm down... it's not about the loaders - it's about the device versions themselves. On AliExpress there are upgradeable (expensive) and non-updateable (cheap PCB: B03-ST), despite the fact that the chip STM32F405 is soldered. users of cheap versions (like me), who tried to update, ended up with dead. I think this is largely our fault - the seller immediately warned: to use only and ONLY the version of the program and loader on the CD/DVD that came with the kit. yes, the trick worked for a while... but then the greedy bastard FLY changed something in his soft. in general, don't take risks with updated versions - it's not worth it. )))
I'm sticking to the version 22.10 with my 429, i've no need to update as it works well.

I've never understood why the need to update to the latest software version. Its mostly bug-fixes or new model additions (most of which are now limited in what coding can be done thanks to SFD).

rak183
24th November, 2023, 07:30 AM
I'm sure the Chinese will soon clone FLY interface.

mrben
24th November, 2023, 08:05 AM
clone wars [emoji16]

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lz1gad
26th November, 2023, 08:30 PM
Hello frends

I have a problem recently with my VCDS 189 HEX+CAN cable. For 2 years there were no problems since a few days ago it started. What I noticed is that my license has been revoked. With HW Type I see that Langruage is unknown. I flashed the Cable with EN language and tested the cable. It worked fine until the next release. He needed a flash again. Why does it lose the language after every coding or diagnosis? I am attaching pictures of the problem

thanks in advance

Gimse
27th November, 2023, 08:50 AM
Check the anti-virus program you have, including windows defender anti-virus and see which file it blocked that is related to VCDS. More than likely it blocked your vcds.hook.dll file for which you have to restore and then add it to the exceptions.

hadrian
27th November, 2023, 03:12 PM
I buyed two vcds-hex-v2 from this seller
https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005006108935327.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2vnm
These is supposed to be "Free Update Online" but is not. Only the price is for this.
This guy have updatable and not updatable interface for sale. I payed for updatable.
Seller sended me download link with Badrax_VIILoader_V9.23.09.001_2303_R1 that work only with vcds 23.3.1.
If I try to make update to vcds 23.11.0, the loader stop working and message is
"Please install version BadraxVIILoader_Installer_V9.XX.XX.XXX_2303.exe".
Exist any solution to make it working or simply I am another sucker who payed to china man ?

mrben
27th November, 2023, 04:09 PM
It's working only with that loader, do not try to updated with viiplusloader at all, your interface will get locked if you update via viiplusloader.
You must wait for your seller to release a new loader version that works with your interface and send it to you, there's no other way.

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lz1gad
27th November, 2023, 08:31 PM
Okay thanks i try to another windows ( 7 ) without antivirus.
i have second question :D
Can i update software to version 23 with my cable?
may be i need another flash and loader ?
thanks

mrben
28th November, 2023, 05:51 PM
nope, will not work with 23 versions, latest loader for Atmega is Kolimer 9.2 and working only with VCD$ 20.12.0 latest if i remember well

Fabio89
28th November, 2023, 05:56 PM
I buyed two vcds-hex-v2 from this seller
https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005006108935327.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2vnm
These is supposed to be "Free Update Online" but is not. Only the price is for this.
This guy have updatable and not updatable interface for sale. I payed for updatable.
Seller sended me download link with Badrax_VIILoader_V9.23.09.001_2303_R1 that work only with vcds 23.3.1.
If I try to make update to vcds 23.11.0, the loader stop working and message is
"Please install version BadraxVIILoader_Installer_V9.XX.XX.XXX_2303.exe".
Exist any solution to make it working or simply I am another sucker who payed to china man ?







Could you send me this BadraxViiplusloader, please ? i think i can flash my b03 cable and fix it with this firmware.
Thanks

mrben
28th November, 2023, 07:46 PM
@Fabio89 check your PM

hid3
28th November, 2023, 10:23 PM
Fabio, what will you do after fixing it? Resell the stuff locally?

alwayslearning
29th November, 2023, 10:37 PM
Hello. I replaced an ABS pump on my A5 2014. The pump has the same part nr as the old one. However I am struggling with the long coding. Recovering the old coding from the old pump is not an option because the pump is damaged from the crash. Is there an other way to code it besides the regular online code?

hadrian
30th November, 2023, 12:20 AM
Link for BadraxVIILoader_V9.23.09.001_2303_R1
https://mega.nz/folder/2YU3wAxZ#THyYgQtNtRWuywp-0A03ZQ

SCANNEROBD
30th November, 2023, 03:26 AM
it seems with latest software V23.11.0 , and have SFD function now.

SCANNEROBD
30th November, 2023, 03:32 AM
I get information :
1.FLY VCDS Hex-V2 SFD function is ok, coming soon.
2.Added TP16 protocol.

mrben
30th November, 2023, 08:07 AM
Hello. I replaced an ABS pump on my A5 2014. The pump has the same part nr as the old one. However I am struggling with the long coding. Recovering the old coding from the old pump is not an option because the pump is damaged from the crash. Is there an other way to code it besides the regular online code?Probably from someone with the same model of your car you can copy the long coding.... or by VIN online from who provide this service

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SoakLatigidVCDS
30th November, 2023, 12:05 PM
Hi All, I bought (and successfully used) a VCDS clone cable last year running 22.3 software and using the VCDSLoader to start it. Came to use it again a few days ago and by mistake, still had the WiFi switched on my laptop and now I can't use the software. I've taken my cable apart and it seems to have the ATMEGA162 chip (see attached photos). Is there any way I can re-flash / fix my cable so I can use it again? Many thanks!

998819998821998820

alwayslearning
30th November, 2023, 02:24 PM
Probably from someone with the same model of your car you can copy the long coding.... or by VIN online from who provide this service

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Right then, thank you

MrDerv
30th November, 2023, 05:16 PM
it seems with latest software V23.11.0 , and have SFD function now.
SFD is hit or miss, you need to buy a code online to use SFD, and if the code doesn't work, many of these sellers don't offer a refund.

RossTech are working on enabling this online with VW like OBDeleven does, but its still a little way off yet.

rch11
5th December, 2023, 01:20 PM
Hello
What interface does this work with?
Because I have a read device status fail

MrDerv
5th December, 2023, 04:03 PM
Hello
What interface does this work with?
Because I have a read device status fail
What interface does what work with?

rch11
5th December, 2023, 10:05 PM
BadraxVIILoader_V9.23.09.001_2303_R1

miouser
5th December, 2023, 11:14 PM
@rch11

contact the seller. only he can tell you which loader is correct.
VIIPlusLoader, BadraxVIILoader or KolimerVIILoader. all the interfaces have same pcb layout and nobody here can tell you which one right is :banghead:

sanshao
6th December, 2023, 04:16 AM
BadraxVIILoader_V9.23.09.001_2303_R1


VIIPlusLoader,Device serial number is 1N0XXXXX,Tag serial number is H11-002336
BadraxVIILoader,Device serial number is 2N00XXXX,Tag serial number is F33-415407
KolimerVIILoader,Device serial number is 3N00XXXX,Tag serial number is F33-415407

999718

999719

mrben
6th December, 2023, 06:53 AM
:creep:
999729

MrDerv
6th December, 2023, 09:59 AM
VIIPlusLoader,Device serial number is 1N0XXXXX,Tag serial number is H11-002336
BadraxVIILoader,Device serial number is 2N00XXXX,Tag serial number is F33-415407
KolimerVIILoader,Device serial number is 3N00XXXX,Tag serial number is F33-415407

999718

999719
And are those devices sold by yourself?

sanshao
6th December, 2023, 11:08 AM
And are those devices sold by yourself?

no,i already bought their 3 items.

I also know vcds hex-v2 STM32f415 and B03 vcds hex-v2 STM32f405 are using fly vcsd hex-v2 old firmware.

but only partial function.

MrDerv
6th December, 2023, 11:13 AM
no,i already bought their 3 items
Ok, can you provide a link to where you bought these please?

sanshao
6th December, 2023, 11:17 AM
Ok, can you provide a link to where you bought these please?

on aliexpress,my friend help me buy.

mirage47
6th December, 2023, 04:26 PM
Hello

is it possible to change loader BADRAX to FLY ?

Thank

Bue

MrDerv
6th December, 2023, 05:20 PM
Hello

is it possible to change loader BADRAX to FLY ?

Thank

Bue
Looking over previous posts. NO its not, as they are specific to the adapters bought.

mirage47
6th December, 2023, 06:02 PM
Ok, but what is the better ? Fly or BADRAX ?
Thank's

miouser
6th December, 2023, 08:35 PM
@mirage47

Badrax don't sell anything! these are all crafts from fly.
read this thread.

MrDerv
6th December, 2023, 11:37 PM
As above. Badrax doesn't sell. His name and Kolimer has been copied, for what reason i have no idea.

Fly was booted from the forum, for his conduct, and for accusing Badrax of copying fly's adapter, which if you look through the many pages in this thread, never happened. Fly also sent threats to me via PM and accused me of copying adapters too.

sanshao
7th December, 2023, 01:40 AM
Has badrax cracked fly's latest V08.023.11 VIIPlusLoader firmware?

MrDerv
7th December, 2023, 09:40 AM
Has badrax cracked fly's latest V08.023.11 VIIPlusLoader firmware?
Speak to the cable supplier. Badrax doesn't create the firmware you are looking for

sanshao
7th December, 2023, 02:10 PM
I know vcds hex-v2 STM32f415 and B03 vcds hex-v2 STM32f405 are using Badrax-cracked fly vcds hex-v2 firmware.

I need fly's latest V08.023.11 VIIPlusLoader firmware.

Let's hope badrax can crack it

miouser
7th December, 2023, 08:11 PM
@sanshao

don't dream. some fraudster stole public knowledge and is now making a business out of it.
I don't think this will happen again

zecas
9th December, 2023, 08:04 PM
1000340100034110003411000341

hi
attached pictures of cheap cable with arm405 uses VIIPlusLoader-08.023.02
if i use loader08.023.07 or newer will it brake?
will bradex loader work with cheap china clone

mrben
9th December, 2023, 08:26 PM
If you received the interface with viiplusloader, it should work with any viiplusloader version. Your serial no. from pictures is for viiplusloader (read few posts back 1L, 2L 3L).
But i know that this PCB got locked on other users. If your interface get locked by viiplusloader then it's broken, you cannot do anything to revive it back at this moment, doesn't matter what loader you will try to revive it, it won't work, if you want to risk you can try to update. Read posts few posts back, it's your decision.
You should use loader you have received from your seller, and you should ask your seller about the interface update to provide you a new loader.