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    I found that keydiy is advertising it's remotes on its website at relatively cheap price. 10 USD. Are they reliable? Are they universal remotes. They say can be used for different frequencies but not much info on the type of chip that they can be used for.

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    depends what keydiy remotes you refer to , as there are 3 main types

    B series remotes

    these are for models that dont use intergrated chip , so you generate the remote you want it to be , add the correct chip in the blade end and program to the car , so for this you need to add the correct chip

    NB series remotes

    these are for models with id46 intergrated chip like psa , fiat etc , you generate the remote type you want the on board chip is generated at same time and program it to the vehicle

    ZB series remotes

    These are for keyless models with intergrated chips but can also be used as flip keys on a range of chip types.

    They have also released some tdb remotes for 8a toyota and lexus as well , so tb remotes are another newer remote series.

    every remote can be generated as 433/434mhz or 315 mhz etc using one of the keydiy tools .

    download the free keydiy app , you can then go through the coverage list to see exactly what can be done , as the can be generated to over 1000 diffrent remotes , some work great and some do not , in the app on each remote theres a feedback area where you can read of the fails and the sucesses .

    excellent piece of kit , and remotes sold by many sellers

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzz1 View Post
    Hi
    I found that keydiy is advertising it's remotes on its website at relatively cheap price. 10 USD. Are they reliable? Are they universal remotes. They say can be used for different frequencies but not much info on the type of chip that they can be used for.

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    It depends on the car. Some cars are very reliable in some markets, some are absolutely broken in some or all markets. Some have the same ID in the same cars. It's not a product where you can hold nothing but KEYDIY/Xhorse product you must have original product on hand for cases where the aftermarket is not appropriate. I use A LOT of Keydiy/Xhorse product and most of the time it is good, but there are cars where you must use genuine.

    I'm sorry if this is a bit wishy-washy as an answer but it depends so much on what car, what immo, what remote as to if these aftermarket platforms are appropriate. It's even a consideration of what the application is and if you can get away with using an identical remote on multiple cars.

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    Thank you all. Any help always welcome. I was wondering why the difference in price between autel and keydiy. Now i know that the b series is without chip makes more sense for it being so cheap.

    Yeah making keys for cars makes us sometimes looks foolish. We are so sure it's going to work on some model and for no reason it just fails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritech View Post
    It depends on the car. Some cars are very reliable in some markets, some are absolutely broken in some or all markets. Some have the same ID in the same cars. It's not a product where you can hold nothing but KEYDIY/Xhorse product you must have original product on hand for cases where the aftermarket is not appropriate. I use A LOT of Keydiy/Xhorse product and most of the time it is good, but there are cars where you must use genuine.

    I'm sorry if this is a bit wishy-washy as an answer but it depends so much on what car, what immo, what remote as to if these aftermarket platforms are appropriate. It's even a consideration of what the application is and if you can get away with using an identical remote on multiple cars.
    i picked up a tasty job for just this reason , i had quoted a commercial customer with an electrical firm for 6 x berlingo vans with oem remote keys , customer opted for a cheap guy who sold him 6 keydiy NB11 keys , sadly when 1 remote was used 3 to 4 of the vans opened , this was a problem for them as didnt want a number of vans sitting open on site if 1 left site , the cheap guy refused to go back claiming their problem , so i got to replace them with oem flip keys .

    the bonus is they have over 30 vans , all berlingos and partners , done 4 jobs for them since .

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    I had the exakt same problem but with aftermarket keys from china. Made 3 remote keys (AES) to 3 Peugeot Expert at the same firm and they all opened each other.

    I sell alot of KeyDiy keys and is very happy with the quality. I sell most B01 and NB29 both have better build quality compared to most Oem Psa and Kia/Hyundai keys.
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    First time I hear about such problem but never done multiple keys at once for various cars. Do you know if Xhorse remotes also got this issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p1et View Post
    First time I hear about such problem but never done multiple keys at once for various cars. Do you know if Xhorse remotes also got this issue?
    Yes, for example Suzuki Swift HITAG2 are all the same both KeyDIY and Xhorse, which is why you can never register multiple aftermarket KD/XH keys to a single vehicle.

    Chevrolet Optra/Holden Viva all start at the same code and if you try to do 2 in one location they'll both work on the 1 remote until one rolls far enough from the other.

    There's plenty of other ones you'll find eventually if you do multiple of the same car in the same place. Those are two of the specifics I recall right now.

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    It's pretty bad i've seen this multiple times over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p1et View Post
    First time I hear about such problem but never done multiple keys at once for various cars. Do you know if Xhorse remotes also got this issue?
    if you dont do multiple keys on the same vehicle or same model then you wouldnt come across it , i cant remember who did the 1st article on this in the uk , i think was either advanced keys or diagnostic box .

    keydiy and xhorse are still good keys , but they do have this flaw due to the limited id's they have for each remote .

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapidlocksmiths View Post
    if you dont do multiple keys on the same vehicle or same model then you wouldnt come across it , i cant remember who did the 1st article on this in the uk , i think was either advanced keys or diagnostic box .

    keydiy and xhorse are still good keys , but they do have this flaw due to the limited id's they have for each remote .
    They're still a major boon to us as they reduce stock holdings if you just want to get a car going with a remote key. I recommend and sell OEM/lookalikes as often as possible with most customers. But that said like some cars like GM prox, the KD/XH product is just plain better because the OEM is just absolute garbage.

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    few months ago I added 3 aftermarket keys on 3 Grandland's in one place - every remote work on all 3 cars

    Few days ago Honda Jazz 2022 AKL - Programmed one aftermarket key and is not possible to program the second one - Programmed only the second one work OK but not possible to program the first one

    All keys had different ID

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    So let's get this clear.

    For example 3 customers comes to supermarket, all 3 of them have Peugeot Partner same generation, all of them got Keydiy or Xhorse keys with themselves and they park close to each other.

    If I understand this correctly, there is a chance that 1 of the guy use his remote key and it will open different guy's Partner?

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    yes thats exactly it , theres a chance all 3 will open.

    A solution would be to do as some chip generation tools used to do , when doing multiple vehicles you could generate key 1 , key 2 and key 3 , so all 3 chips could be generated and coded to same car , common with opel id40 back in the day , key diy could have say 6 different id's for a remote , so if doing 3 keys for 1 car you could select 3 different id's when generating.

    as good as these keys are and as useful to us as they are , they have their flaws and downside.

    as more and more of these keys are being sold as commonly seen now , i wonder how long it will take van tool thieves to figure it out and if provable i wonder if there would be a question of liability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p1et View Post
    So let's get this clear.

    For example 3 customers comes to supermarket, all 3 of them have Peugeot Partner same generation, all of them got Keydiy or Xhorse keys with themselves and they park close to each other.

    If I understand this correctly, there is a chance that 1 of the guy use his remote key and it will open different guy's Partner?
    Not sure

    On the Grandland (4A key the same as on the new Partner) only the last key that I synchronised work on the other cars and their new remotes stopped work (genuine key still work)

    So I suspect that if synchronise aftermarket remote when the cars are far each other there will not be a problem

    But if someone decide to synchronise his key on the supermarket parking close to other similar car with aftermarket key or KD XH key for sure the remote will work on the other cars and their aftermarket remote will stop work and must be synchronised again
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