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    Hello, I want to program car keys, I am looking to program the maximum possible types of car keys.


    I have seen these tools: Launch x431 IMMO, OTOFIX IM2 and Autel MaxilM IM608PRRO II xp400pro.

    which is the best? Can you recommend another one that I haven't mentioned?


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    Hello, I want to program car keys, I am looking to program the maximum possible types of car keys.I have seen these tools:

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    Have you got a key cutting machine?
    And what sort of cars do you come across, in your area in Spain

    are you looking to do spare keys or also do lost keys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .: JaCkPoT :. View Post
    Have you got a key cutting machine?
    And what sort of cars do you come across, in your area in Spain

    are you looking to do spare keys or also do lost keys?
    The most common vehicles in my area are PSA group, Fiat, VW and Renault.
    I have a manual key cutting machine, but I'm looking at the xhorse.

    The most common vehicles in my area are PSA group, Fiat, VW and Renault.I have a manual key cutting machine, but I'm looking at the xhorse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by germuffler View Post
    The most common vehicles in my area are PSA group, Fiat, VW and Renault.
    I have a manual key cutting machine, but I'm looking at the xhorse.

    The most common vehicles in my area are PSA group, Fiat, VW and Renault.I have a manual key cutting machine, but I'm looking at the xhorse.

    For the makes you mentioned i would bet my money on reliable software as AVDI to make sure you won't have dead renaults, fiats and VWs

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    Ok if the most popular vehicles in your area are vw , psa , fiat and renault you will need far better kit than you mention especially if wanting to deal with later models of these , abrites will give you the safest coverage on these 4 makes , next best smart pro bar vw smart pro is not great on vw , vvdi2 is a decent alternative for vw.

    do you have any background knowledge and experience with programming to renault , psa , fiat and vw ? as this will certainly be a huge help to you if you have , if you have no experience of programming to these makes especially the later newer models then i suggest you spend your money on good training and spend your time on alot of research long before you part with your money on tools .

    once you have done your research fully you will be able to match the right tool to your needs , makes models and years .

    the biggest cause of these makes getting bricked is user error , brought about by a lack of research and training , wrong tool choices and a lack of system and tool knowledge . these are not makes to buy a cheap tool press some buttons and pray.

    get yourself some very good insurance that covers you to work on vehicles , trust me you will be grateful of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rapidlocksmiths View Post
    Ok if the most popular vehicles in your area are vw , psa , fiat and renault you will need far better kit than you mention especially if wanting to deal with later models of these , abrites will give you the safest coverage on these 4 makes , next best smart pro bar vw smart pro is not great on vw , vvdi2 is a decent alternative for vw.

    do you have any background knowledge and experience with programming to renault , psa , fiat and vw ? as this will certainly be a huge help to you if you have , if you have no experience of programming to these makes especially the later newer models then i suggest you spend your money on good training and spend your time on alot of research long before you part with your money on tools .

    once you have done your research fully you will be able to match the right tool to your needs , makes models and years .

    the biggest cause of these makes getting bricked is user error , brought about by a lack of research and training , wrong tool choices and a lack of system and tool knowledge . these are not makes to buy a cheap tool press some buttons and pray.

    get yourself some very good insurance that covers you to work on vehicles , trust me you will be grateful of it.
    Thank you very much for the advice, I will investigate further, but the truth is that I need to start as soon as possible since right now there is no one who can do key work well in my area

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    Rushing into keys, especially European brands will end with dead cars and upset customers. Then your business name will be trash and it won't matter if you're the only game in town, they'll go to the dealer.

    Rapid has given good advise, go seek training/information on what you want to do before jumping in head first.

    As others have said the kit you've mentioned is cheap but not really all that capable and when something goes wrong there is NO support from Chinese tool manufacturers.

    Keys are among the most difficult things you can do for cars, and most cars delete all keys and start over and if you've not followed procedures carefully and correctly you can end up with an expensive brick in a customer driveway.

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    You may well wish to start as soon as possible , but again whats your background knowledge and experience in working with these makes and models especially on the newer years ?
    Rushing this could well finish you before you get started , 1 or 2 bricked cars and you will have a hefty bill to pay. also factor in a good battery support unit and excellent insurance.

    there will be a reason why no one in your area can do these makes well , have you investigated what this reason is ?

    as stated if this is new to you with no associated knowledge then you need to take care and improve your knowledge of these systems and select the correct tool .

    are you aware that at present no cut to code machine can cut some of the new renault keys yet ? are you aware which you need battery support for maintaining 14v at battery throughout ?
    are you aware which renault models will get bricked with cheaper tools akl ?

    do you know how long it takes and how much research and work is involved in doing these makes well , theres alot more to it than buy a few tools and press some buttons ?

    the best advice i can give you is dont rush in to it until you know the risks and that you can afford the repairs .

    for psa and later renault nothing is currently better than abrites and smart pro but these are going to cost you a large investment and even then you will get failures , with late renault there is always a risk so be sure to have excellent support and good insurance.
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    A story comes to my mind. When I call locksmith to work on Japanese cars they ask me when they can come and even call me back. When I call them to come for European cars, they vanish. I have experience that several times

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    True programming keys is only one factor, business and people anther



    car dealer wants me to work xmas cos he doesn't want to spend on spare key upfront
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    Ive made a couple of errors on my journey, it's an awful feeling, very stressful
    I'm in a fortunate position to have some very very helpful and well established people helping me but when things go wrong, unless your support network is local, you have only places like this forum to turn to for help, and if the fix is something beyond your skill set, it suddenly becomes very costly.

    Just bear that in mind, coming from someone who is also relatively new

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    Quote Originally Posted by germuffler View Post
    The most common vehicles in my area are PSA group, Fiat, VW and Renault.
    I have a manual key cutting machine, but I'm looking at the xhorse.

    The most common vehicles in my area are PSA group, Fiat, VW and Renault.I have a manual key cutting machine, but I'm looking at the xhorse.
    1. Autel IM508/608
    2. Xhorse KeyToolPlus
    3. OBDstar x300dp/g3

    those 3 tools are ok for you to start, after some time you will know what is you next tool .

    days ago i start with ZedBull (clone) and keydiy kd-x2 ... now i dont know how much tools i have in workshop but i know what i need next to buy
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    @ germuffler
    With the tools you mentioned I will give you one friendly advice.
    Do not do Renault vehicles after 2014 and also avoid Nissan vehicles in general…

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    Quote Originally Posted by tepSIJA View Post
    1. Autel IM508/608
    2. Xhorse KeyToolPlus
    3. OBDstar x300dp/g3

    those 3 tools are ok for you to start, after some time you will know what is you next tool .

    days ago i start with ZedBull (clone) and keydiy kd-x2 ... now i dont know how much tools i have in workshop but i know what i need next to buy

    I didn't know about OBDSTAR, is it really a good tool? I've ruled out the A.B.R.I.T.E.S tool for now, it's too expensive. The three you suggest are the ones that interest me the most for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by germuffler View Post
    I didn't know about OBDSTAR, is it really a good tool? I've ruled out the A.B.R.I.T.E.S tool for now, it's too expensive. The three you suggest are the ones that interest me the most for now.
    Do not look to any one tool to solve all issues in your market. Now while you can get away with 'cheap' tools for some things when it comes to European makes which have a generally more serious security posture you will find difficulties, and some brands even encourage these difficulties and you will end up with dead cars. Don't look at the lowest price, that is a surefire way to failure.

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