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    Any progress with the FLS. editing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisn27 View Post
    No offense bud but I'm willing to bet if I got my hands on your ECM you'll take that "CAT" programming and throw it away. First of all you CAN (I do it all the time) take that CAT and increase horsepower AND IMPROVE fuel economy at the same time. You can take a MBN 475 CAT and put out over 600hp's while increasing fuel mileage over 1mpg!
    Second, going to the local CAT house and requesting a file for your truck isn't going to put you any better than the truck was to begin with from the factory, as a matter of fact an updated file will more than likely be worse on your engine regarding efficiency. Take an old truck and have it updated with a low-nox file and you'll get my point on that. ALL engines in the same family rating have the SAME program written as far as flash files. Two of the same engine that share the identical Test Spec number and A
    rrangement will share an identical Flash File. They control the minor fluctuations in horsepower,torque,and emissions using the FLS and FTS settings in the ECM, not the FLASH FILE. Lets see, your pretty close on the CAT filters though, even though CAT has only one plant that makes their own filters it's still managed by Donaldson Co. It pretty much starts off as a Donaldson filter but there are some minor changes made internally to tighten up the specs just a hair. Hope I was of some help...
    So two 6NZ motors will have the same flash file? When I look on ET some have a variable torque while others have a set torque. Can I copy one of these ECM flash files and reload it on another truck? i have Cat ET 2011B Dealer version. I assume then that I also need some key when I try to copy the flash file?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlogi View Post
    So two 6NZ motors will have the same flash file? When I look on ET some have a variable torque while others have a set torque. Can I copy one of these ECM flash files and reload it on another truck? i have Cat ET 2011B Dealer version. I assume then that I also need some key when I try to copy the flash file?
    Yes, after you copy the new flash file into the ecm, the engine will start but the CEL will be on and you will have no throttle.
    if you look in your parameter screen, you will see that your personality module will say not programmed. click on it and another window will pop up showing you what you are changing it from and what you are going to. it will give you 2 coded lines or codes and you will have to get 'factory passwords' in order to finish the flash.

    you will need access to a factory keygen

    you should always copy your original file before starting to flash. This way you have your original file if something happens during your flash.

    hope this helps.

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    hj everyboby

    who konw change injectors C15 giude with me becuase 06 injectors bad no working. I change 06 new injectors

    5A500168748B
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    but i no kown change injectors where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntgroup View Post
    hj everyboby

    who konw change injectors C15 giude with me becuase 06 injectors bad no working. I change 06 new injectors

    5A500168748B
    5A5001686690
    5A50016869BD
    5A5001688054
    5A5001686797
    5A5001688646


    but i no kown change injectors where?
    Here are your trim files for the injectors you posted. each injector also has a 4 digit code. you will need this code to finish installing the trim file.
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    By using tools which read directly through the back door but any progress on fls editing ? This is Adem4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jari00 View Post
    By using tools which read directly through the back door but any progress on fls editing ? This is Adem4
    You edit fls files like this?

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    no. only read and write eeprom and ext flash

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jari00 View Post
    no. only read and write eeprom and ext flash
    so afther reading a4 e3 controller from a lee c13
    whit a 40 euro ebay tool and a software to make 3d mapping
    whe direkt see all fuell maps timing maps etc everyting so tuning a ecm like this is no problem......

    if people realy intrested im open to help were i can..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronshamal View Post
    so afther reading a4 e3 controller from a lee c13
    whit a 40 euro ebay tool and a software to make 3d mapping
    whe direkt see all fuell maps timing maps etc everyting so tuning a ecm like this is no problem......

    if people realy intrested im open to help were i can..
    just send a pm,
    Sounds like some good progress.. I'm a bit confused though. What do you mean by 3D mapping? What software are you using? Thanks in advance
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    I will try to shed some lights to this thread. I have been tuning Perkins engines for some years, and Perkins use the same ECM as Caterpillar.
    Forget all this about Master ET and flashfile editor. What you need to do are reading out the binary file from your ECM, then edit this file and write it back to the ECM. For reading and writing/programming you will have to use a BDM tool, because this ECM's have a Motorola MPC5XX processor. There are several suppliers of BDM (background debugging module), I personally use BDM100 made by EVC. For reading and programming you will have to open up the ECM. The file you are reading have to be edited by WinOLS. This is a licensed program made by EVC. There are some crack out, but beeing a pro tuner I work with licensed software. You will also need a plug-in to handle the checksum for WinOLS. The BDM100 will read the whole content of the ECM, and not only a partial read. With this feature you can also make a clone of an ECM, or even virginise. There are now lately launched tools from other manufacturer that can flash bin files directly to the ECM without the need for opening, this is the KessV2 made by Alientech. This is very handy when you already have the file readout and just want to make a quick correction, and you can then do so directly through the diagnostic connector. With these tools you can edit and release the hidden power of your Cat or Perkins engine. Editing the files are the real job, and require a lot of experience and testing. Good luck.

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    New Genius also supports writing bin but kess/genius cannot read. You still need an ori reading for that software version, make mods and then write. BDM100 is a nice tool.. I use Trasdata as well.

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    Is it possible to just use a BDM to simply clone an ECM? I have a tuned one that's dead and I have a BDM100 but have no idea how to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatguy1999 View Post
    Is it possible to just use a BDM to simply clone an ECM? I have a tuned one that's dead and I have a BDM100 but have no idea how to use it.
    Yeah it'll clone everything most likely. Basically an exact copy except maybe for the ECM S/N and a few other identifiers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaMirakle View Post
    Yeah it'll clone everything most likely. Basically an exact copy except maybe for the ECM S/N and a few other identifiers.
    That's fine, as long as I can pull the flash file off the dead one.

 

 
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