ford injection pump programming with ids

**ninja123** · 19th November, 2012, 09:04 PM

I seem to be having trouble coding in ford transit pumps

I use IDS clone and after the 'used' pump is fitted, goto body-pats-module sync, selected just Fuel pump, waited, success, then module initialisation failed.

Done again, but done new Fuel pump & PCM, outcome still the same.

Got lots of fault codes relating to no pcm coded to pats, wrong/no transponder key etc.

Plugged old pump in, done the same and all went through fine.

Any one know what the problem may be, wrong pump or faulty pump?

This is the 4th one on the trot that has failed

ninja

**ninja123** · 25th November, 2012, 09:41 AM

ANy info on this, anyone successfully coded in used pump?

ninja

**Neodim60** · 25th November, 2012, 09:16 PM

Pump VP44?
Simply twist the starter 30 seconds to sync.

**shadow12** · 25th November, 2012, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Neodim60

Pump VP44?
Simply twist the starter 30 seconds to sync.

this will only work when the pump is already virgin

**flyins** · 26th November, 2012, 01:14 AM

Yes i have successfully coded used pumps using ids, did one last week on transit, pats, module initialization, fip,coded access, retrieve outcode input in-code, then it should clear rim, then cycle key as prompted then its done. Well something to that effect anyway.
When youve tried to initialize the used pump and it fails have you just tried plugging your old pump back on without initializing it again to see if dash light stops flashing? (just incase its not coding used one back in at all), if the light goes out without syncing the old pump back in id be looking at the vcm or software. Ive only had fuel pump sync fail on a focus tddi, but i used my mates vcm and it worked first time. So it must be a software/hardware issue with mine as ive done connects and transits and its worked on them.
What year is it?
All the ones ive done have been coded pats access

**ton1** · 26th November, 2012, 01:22 AM

spot on mate thats the correct way...

**autosocket** · 26th November, 2012, 01:25 AM

Please program 2 keys to pats first and then module initialisation. It has to have 2 keys programmed to do initial PCM to pcu match

Regards

**ninja123** · 26th November, 2012, 09:03 AM

i cleared and re programmed ori pump, all went ok, but pump ecu is bad.

van is 2002 LDV with coded access.

2 keys programmed, followed above process but after key on/off say module initialisation failed, tried lots of times.

Could this be down to a faulty 'used' pump or is there different pump types and could it be non compatible?

I use this ids for coding tranny keys and ecu's no problems, so dont think ids is problem.

thanks for info guys, ninja

**flyins** · 27th November, 2012, 01:02 AM

Sorry Ninja, but even though ldv is basically a transit lump etc.. Ive never done a pump on one, maybe the pumps are wrong like you have said.

**ninja123** · 27th November, 2012, 09:10 AM

But i have had this problem with transits and focus too, i only go to program the pumps after garages have fitted used ones, they may be faulty or wrong type, as they are a common failure...

ninja

**flip** · 27th November, 2012, 10:40 AM

Ninja I've been following this thread with interest. Same situation. 2001 Transit 2.4L. Original pump ecu would fail on customer intermittently but not with me. Decided to have a crack at the FIP ecu repair thread. After refitting the ecu, now I have the watchdog fault code with the FIP ecu communication fault which erases until key off/key on cycle. Decided to install new ecu from Bosch. Have same fault codes.

I have all + & - voltages and closed circuits back to PCM for signals and 120 ohms on the C.A.N lines. Can not link Pump and PCM no matter what I try. 60 secs, 20 mins ign cycle. IDS time base security access does not work, Incode outcode refuses to accept any incode that I enter even under key programming. There are 2 keys already programmed.

My IDS is shi#ing me BIG TIME. I have 2 heads both of them are HPM's, tried different vers of software, 3 diff Laptops, it always tells me to turn the fu#king Ign on and then it eventually goes through to FIP programming and then "Incode is incorrect"

I also only have issues only with transits and some Focus's and Ka's.

I have worn the search button out and read every thing I can find on DK and the web. I will try a another PCM tomorrow, but you are not alone in your grief Ninja.

**ninja123** · 28th November, 2012, 08:15 PM

Yeah, could do with some info on why this sh!t is happening.
Ive tried a few other ids set ups on 'problem' jobs and still same result.

ninja

**autosocket** · 29th November, 2012, 12:45 AM

Can you please change your heading to ldv instead of Ford, this vehicle is slightly different from a transit.

Can you list faults from PCM and pats?

Fip has to be same number as one taken off. Also these ldv suffered from water ingress to PCM, and seperate pats module, not contained in PCM.

**squirrelbandy** · 29th November, 2012, 01:07 AM

has to be spot on 100% correct pump as there are a few variations , ive had this issue a few times now because pump was wrong type .

**flip** · 29th November, 2012, 07:07 AM

Ninja- Borrowed a real IDS headset from Dealership. All fixed, the com issues with these cars and failure to reconise that the ignition is turned on and Testman errors is in these cloned crap head sets.