HU87/HU133R Suzuki Ignis/Vauxhall Agila B Picking

**truedetective** · 20th February, 2017, 01:22 AM

Just a quick question has anyone on here picked one of these?
I have the Mr Li tool and I'm unable to get any binding or progress on this, never had any issue with other Lishi/Mr Li tools. Anyone have any advice?
Many thanks.

**whiskeyman** · 20th February, 2017, 02:03 AM

practise
and gut lock

**rapidlocksmiths** · 20th February, 2017, 10:22 AM

yup , your flogging a dead horse for want of a better term.

Most of The HU87 door locks have a set up that prevents you from getting any binding wafers at all .

the ignition picks and decodes very simply but not the doors , there are some old lock versions that do pick but most you will see on doors will not.

**truedetective** · 20th February, 2017, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by rapidlocksmiths

yup , your flogging a dead horse for want of a better term.

Most of The HU87 door locks have a set up that prevents you from getting any binding wafers at all .

the ignition picks and decodes very simply but not the doors , there are some old lock versions that do pick but most you will see on doors will not.

Top man. Cheers!

**jamesnz888** · 21st February, 2017, 02:35 PM

Mr. Li is fully aware there are some Suzuki door locks with side bar, that explains why you do not feel any binding for these locks. It is not a tool problem.
I have encountered these locks a couple of time in my country and air wedge seems the only way at this stage.

Mr. Li is trying making a reader for these locks but it seems difficult because of the wafer structure preventing reading correcting.

**rapidlocksmiths** · 21st February, 2017, 02:55 PM

makes you wonder why manufacturers ever moved away from side bars as effective means of security . most common older locks to see with these side bars that prevent picking is , VAC102 door locks , SX9 door locks , HU87 door locks and fiat ignition locks .

some are suceptable to scope reading , other methods are find entry by alternate means and pick and decode ignition , order codes or remove and strip after airbag entry

**camelgd** · 21st February, 2017, 06:12 PM

US Saturn had side bar door locks that could be decoded with Mitchell EZ Reader type of tool, the tumblers could be measured without picking. I have not run into Suzuki around here, nonexistent in Midwest US, but perhaps tumblers can be measured without stripping lock.

**jamesnz888** · 21st February, 2017, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by camelgd

US Saturn had side bar door locks that could be decoded with Mitchell EZ Reader type of tool, the tumblers could be measured without picking. I have not run into Suzuki around here, nonexistent in Midwest US, but perhaps tumblers can be measured without stripping lock.

Hi Camelgd

We actually received requests from USA locksmiths about these Suzuki locks with side bar, and a sample lock from them.

Luckily these locks can be removed easily after opening and key code is stamped on the lock.

**sdnatlst** · 30th March, 2020, 07:40 PM

Had this today, no wafers would bind on door lock

i wedged open door and managed to wind down window

i put lishi in igniton lock, again nothing would bind, BUT with tension, the wafers bounced to the correct heights, decoding the lock without picking.

blade i made worked first time.

First time i picked HU87, had me stumped for some time, wish i searched DK beforehand haha

**jamesnz888** · 30th March, 2020, 10:34 PM

Now Original Lishi has the HU87 reader for both door lock and ignition, no matter it is sidebar or normal cylinder. This is particular good for the door lock with sidebar for which normal 2in1 will not work. You now can just read and cut a key for the door, checking up with Instacode for the ignition cuttings.