VW Touareg: No ignition and ELV defective in dashboard

**rs4wagon** · 25th November, 2018, 08:28 PM

Also i have genuine ross-tech,cleared codes but no luck,they coming back straight on after i put key in

**rs4wagon** · 4th December, 2018, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by yunchuli

Hello, mate. I got it fixed, finally. I would like to feedback my experience:

0. When disassemble the ELV, be careful when pull out the PCB, apply the force evenly on the PCB so it won't bend the plastic stick
1. Try replacing the component on the PCB with new one where I found in some vendors in china: V23086-C10010-X008 and HEF4047BT
2. Use 12V to drive the motor to locked position (in my case, my ELV dies while locking, so it's not locked)
3. Clear the error code in J518, if the error code is not cleared, the J518/ELV won't work normally.
4. Connect the ELV to cable and try again.

this,mine back to life again,battery flat so i'll wait a bit,but i see clocks working,lights,mirrors,dash etc etc,thank you DK members!!

**alclot** · 25th July, 2019, 02:38 PM

Hi mates,
I have the same elv but i find so dificult to open it about read mcu to write in donor one. Is there a way saffety? If we make a bench maybe we can match immo in donor elv by diag?
Thanks a lot

**TESTASTRETTA** · 12th December, 2019, 07:30 PM

I wonder if there is any cheap programmer which can copy the mcu to other elv unit. My xprog do not support this mcu

**Degi256** · 12th December, 2019, 08:17 PM

you need swap mcu or virgin elv if not havz need buy new

**mercuxio** · 6th July, 2021, 09:45 AM

Just an update, my fix of using a donor lock board has died after about 3 years. The donor board in which I have transplanted my MCU and replaced new relays has failed with some tiny burnt marks on the PCB for some reason. I suspect the humidity in my car (due to the boot lid leak) together with the recent non-usage of the car might have caused it.

Anyways, proceeded to obtain another donor lock from Ebay, did the same procedure but it failed to work. Very likely the donor lock had issues as well (some faulty components that cannot be seen with the naked eye). The lock was from a 2007 car. My previous donor was also from a 2007 car. My car is 2007. So it seems to make me think that these locks probably fails after an average of 10 years of use.

Got another donor lock from a 2012 car from ebay but I didn't use it (still unopened). Instead, I ordered an N360 emulator from China and transplanted the MCU together with the harness connector over. Works immediately. These emulators basically disables the physical locking of the steering and just returns the signal needed to deactivate or activates the immobilizer. Has a built in tiny speaker that mimic the sound of the motor locking and unlocking. I believe this to be a permanent solution for this problem plus the board is 100% new. I believe the board I ordered is an improved version 2 as it has the speaker fitted onto the board. The first version requires the motor to be removed and a speaker placed in that location. It seems to be rather well built.

What I have come to understand is that you do not need to clear the fault codes stored in order to have this fixed. My error code was "0288 - signal implausible" and I didn't clear it when it worked. Still haven't cleared it - Just waiting to plug it to a proper PIWIS when I can.

Attached are some pictures - since pictures speak a thousand words. Also I have a steering lock from a 2012 car (manufacturer date 17th November 2011 on the lock) and other loose components up for grabs if anyone is attempting this fix.

1 X Full donor Steering lock (untouched)
10 X V23086-C10010-X008 relays
1 X HEF4047BT
1 X perfectly intact hall effect sensor transparent plastic stick
1 X steering lock casing with motor and all (Motor is good with < 0.1ohm resistance)

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**immoneard** · 6th July, 2021, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by mercuxio

Instead, I ordered an N360 emulator from China and transplanted the MCU together with the harness connector over. Works immediately.

Where did you buy emulator?

I also heard they not work with all EVL , only one type.

**mercuxio** · 8th July, 2021, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by immoneard

Where did you buy emulator?

I also heard they not work with all EVL , only one type.

The emulator works for cars with the same ELV. What I know is Audi A8, Bentley, VW Touareg, VW Phaeton and Porsche Cayenne uses the exact same steering column. Hence the same ELV. The Q7 and A6 is a different ELV and there's a different emulator widely available for that.

Having said that,

I have been getting queries on the emulator I've gotten. I'd like to clarify that I didn't get it from an online source. Instead, I gotten it via a local contact (friend) in China. Therefore, I really couldn't give you the distributor information.

The V1 of the emulator (pic below) was out of stock everywhere since May and the reason I came to find out was that apparently, due to the global shortage of ICs. Imagine my frustration, a non-moving car, plus it was blocking my other perfectly working cars in the driveway. I was desperate and got my friend in China to help search for something.

A friend manage to source the emulator for me locally in China. The seller didn't even ship internationally. It was shipped to my friend in China and subsequently shipped to me. I can't seem to find any information on this emulator on any websites even the China domestic ones. It's probably very new or they didn't care to market it internationally. It didn't came cheap, but still cheaper than a new steering column being a permanent fix.

If anyone is desperate to get this, drop me an email at ben@sotjor.com and I'll see if I can help you.

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**ricked** · 8th July, 2021, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by alclot

Hi mates,
I have the same elv but i find so dificult to open it about read mcu to write in donor one. Is there a way saffety? If we make a bench maybe we can match immo in donor elv by diag?
Thanks a lot

you still need to read in boot mode or you must know pin number to access the part

**immoneard** · 9th July, 2021, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by mercuxio

The emulator works for cars with the same ELV. What I know is Audi A8, Bentley, VW Touareg, VW Phaeton and Porsche Cayenne uses the exact same steering column. Hence the same ELV. The Q7 and A6 is a different ELV and there's a different emulator widely available for that.

Having said that,

I have been getting queries on the emulator I've gotten. I'd like to clarify that I didn't get it from an online source. Instead, I gotten it via a local contact (friend) in China. Therefore, I really couldn't give you the distributor information.

The V1 of the emulator (pic below) was out of stock everywhere since May and the reason I came to find out was that apparently, due to the global shortage of ICs. Imagine my frustration, a non-moving car, plus it was blocking my other perfectly working cars in the driveway. I was desperate and got my friend in China to help search for something.

A friend manage to source the emulator for me locally in China. The seller didn't even ship internationally. It was shipped to my friend in China and subsequently shipped to me. I can't seem to find any information on this emulator on any websites even the China domestic ones. It's probably very new or they didn't care to market it internationally. It didn't came cheap, but still cheaper than a new steering column being a permanent fix.

If anyone is desperate to get this, drop me an email at ben@sotjor.com and I'll see if I can help you.

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V1 not working on 2004 and 2005 cars , only 2006 , So I was wondering will V2 work on 2004-2005 . There is 3 different EVL ,original in 2004 , then 2005 updated version, then other updated version in 2006 till 2015.