Smart fortwo key cloning

**odednovo** · 3rd June, 2018, 06:46 AM

I lost one key for the Smart 2013 (451 model)
I ordered keys from china
Now I am looking for cheap cloning or prog tool
As I see, the chip inside the key is pcf7941
Zed Bull with is softawre will do the job?
HITAG-2 V-31 will do it?
Or another tool.
What you recommend?

**figani** · 3rd June, 2018, 08:15 AM

I'm not 100% sure, is it the cheapest tool...

But with FVDI 2014... App. 89$ you can handle it 100%...

And as I know it has to be done in car... You are not able to clone it on bench, without BSi...

But wait until the experts for cloning will answer you...

I was trying to exchange 7941, but could not handle it, but also other try it...

**odednovo** · 3rd June, 2018, 12:47 PM

Thank you for the information.
Did you tried the FVDI 2014 for programming keys in SMART 451?

**drugowaz** · 3rd June, 2018, 01:12 PM

You can copy only chip. Remote will not work

**dtip** · 3rd June, 2018, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by odednovo

I lost one key for the Smart 2013 (451 model)
I ordered keys from china
Now I am looking for cheap cloning or prog tool
As I see, the chip inside the key is pcf7941
Zed Bull with is softawre will do the job?
HITAG-2 V-31 will do it?
Or another tool.
What you recommend?

None of those tools will clone that as it is crypto id46. Cheapest tool for cloning would be mini cn900 and you need dedicated cloning chip for it (it's not cloning on pcf7941 on remote board) and of course remote would never work. Also there is no guarantee that cn900 will clone it successfuly but it will probably, as it clones most of id46 cryptos.

My recommendations and i am sure at the end will be cheapest option is that you go to someone who have equipment and knowledge to do it for you.

**odednovo** · 3rd June, 2018, 01:31 PM

What shoud I do to make the china keys fully function, chip+remote?
Which tool to use?

**klesk1986** · 3rd June, 2018, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by odednovo

What shoud I do to make the china keys fully function, chip+remote?
Which tool to use?

Man, read what we writing to you. Like figani wrote fvdi should do the job.

**figani** · 3rd June, 2018, 07:03 PM

First learn to use thanks and reputation buttons...

FVDI 2014 is possible to make it... It's a 2 min job...

But you can not clone it...

You have to go over obd... Key has to be in lock and ignition on... It's really easy...

You have also other software/hardware... But it's more expensive...

**rokibar** · 4th June, 2018, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by figani

First learn to use thanks and reputation buttons...

FVDI 2014 is possible to make it... It's a 2 min job...

But you can not clone it...

You have to go over obd... Key has to be in lock and ignition on... It's really easy...

You have also other software/hardware... But it's more expensive...

you sayd job can be done with fvdi in car directly via obd. i don't trust in it but if it is true then remote will work also. about clone any device with id46 decryptor can clone key for starting. mechanical key can unlock door lock but can't lock tham.

**figani** · 4th June, 2018, 08:03 AM

friend you have read my post...?

when not, read it again... go on LINE 3...

and there is staying....

<<<<<<But you can not clone it...>>>>>>>>

**rokibar** · 4th June, 2018, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by figani

friend you have read my post...?

when not, read it again... go on LINE 3...

and there is staying....

<<<<<<But you can not clone it...>>>>>>>>

ok ok ok. be happy

**martin1234** · 20th June, 2018, 02:59 PM

hi sorry to bother you i did try to PM yu but in box full, i hope you dont mind ,iv been scanning and reading a lot on the smarts 451 keys, i do smarts only the fortwos, i bought one with no keys, a repo, iv done a lot on the 451s and the 450 with stereo eproms etc, and keys ,i haven't come across a 451 with no keys before now, so looking to sort out a tool or method, thanks

**martin1234** · 20th June, 2018, 03:00 PM

FIGANI hi sorry to bother you i did try to PM yu but in box full, i hope you dont mind ,iv been scanning and reading a lot on the smarts 451 keys, i do smarts only the fortwos, i bought one with no keys, a repo, iv done a lot on the 451s and the 450 with stereo eproms etc, and keys ,i haven't come across a 451 with no keys before now, so looking to sort out a tool or method, thanks

**cqae** · 22nd June, 2018, 06:04 AM

zedfull works on these-I did one the other day with chinese keys

**martin1234** · 27th June, 2018, 09:48 PM

i have just started to set up one of my laptops for fvdi 2015 with benz v6.4 and 7.0
i have received 2 new virgin keys , (china ) so what is the guide to do this , remember i have no original keys , pm if you prefer, thanks