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    Default Fiat Ducato coding a new key

    Hello,
    I have a problem:
    I have only one working key with a remote control for my Fiat Ducato from 2014.
    I would like to add a second key with the remote control.
    I have already ordered a new key from Ali ..... with a clean PCF7946 transponder.
    Unfortunately, I do not have the original Pin card .....
    I now have to pull out the PIN code from the computer's Body, am I right?
    I found such software:

    http://smok.com.pl/index.php?id_product=...&id_lang=1

    Does anyone know if I can read the Body PIN in my Ducato with this tool and can I assign my new second key with the help of Multiecuscan with EML327?
    Do you have any experience?
    Maybe some other options?
    Please help.
    greetings

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    Yes you can with smok FTP2 you must read eeprom for precode your pcf7946 and read your pin for programming key. But caution for remote control because you have 2 types of key : delphi and magnetti marelli remote. And in your new key pcb you must see chip if you have 8 ,10 or 16 pins precode is different. You must have programmer of key tag for modify precode before programming. It’s not difficult but if you don’t respect this procedure you will can start car but no remote.


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    Maybe better tool for this will be IO Terminal with Fiat BSI Plugin?
    i want working remote.

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    I have smok it works well. Io terminal works too. But if you have smok or iOt you must have a programmer for modify data of 7946 and another tool for programming key. I don’t know if you can do this with fiat ecu scan. With smok you can just read pin and data of key but not programming.


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    SMOK work with Ducato Body Comupter via obd?
    I understand, I would like to read the body pin with SMOK.
    I've seen programming key programming in Multiecuscan in body adaptations, but I do not have any experience with it, I do not know if it works?
    I would like to do Multiecuscan and EML327.
    If anyone has any experience with this, please help me.
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    Sorry i can’t help you if you want a good tool you must pay. If you want to work with elm327 or other tool at 10€ you can not working good. It’s my opinion after you can do what you want. What is type of bcm on your Ducato ? Delphi or magneti marelli ?? 2014 I think is Delphi ?? No ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by RIMKACHIP View Post
    I have smok it works well. Io terminal works too. But if you have smok or iOt you must have a programmer for modify data of 7946 and another tool for programming key. I don’t know if you can do this with fiat ecu scan. With smok you can just read pin and data of key but not programming.


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    Which programmer can modify data of 7946?
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    Quote Originally Posted by auto techniek View Post
    Which programmer can nodigt data of 7946?
    You have a big choice for example : Gambit Tango Zedbull handy baby vvdi key tool etc.....


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    i am certain Ducato uses Marelli not delphi
    Tools owned -
    AD100 PRO, Lonsdor, FVDI 18, FVDI 20, VVDI PROG, VVDI2, VVDI MB
    CGDI BMW, SuperVag, Renault ECU tool, OBDstar X300 DP Plus, AUTEL im508
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    Opcom, VCDS pro, Diagbox, Multiecuscan, Forscan, JLR SDD

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    If it is marelli you can open it and read 95160 tssop8 you can have pin code and data for precode. If it is Delphi you have 93c86


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    Marelli 95160 Dump can be read by AVDI/FVDI over OBD no need to open. Can gain pre code and pin
    Same with delphi, im sure but not tested by myself
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    AD100 PRO, Lonsdor, FVDI 18, FVDI 20, VVDI PROG, VVDI2, VVDI MB
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    No possible Delphi with FVDI not working. With smok works fine. Marelli works fine with FVDI. I think AVDI original works fine on 2.


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