2016 Fiesta Immobiliser error after key programming

**Stuart1982** · 5th January, 2020, 05:07 PM

Stupidly I erased key before coding additional key to a 2016 ford fiesta. It's now showing error code on ford ids clone as B10d8 - pats key less than minimum programmed, but I've no pats access to reprogram with ids clone. I've tried autek ikey and obd star h100 both deleting and adding keys. Car starts but still showing fault. Tried resetting code but still there. Any ideas before it goes to Ford dealer?

**camelgd** · 5th January, 2020, 05:36 PM

Locksmith before dealer!

**Stuart1982** · 5th January, 2020, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by camelgd

Locksmith before dealer!

How can they get access to pats then as its my understanding you need to access pats to add the keys.

**looly** · 5th January, 2020, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Stuart1982

How can they get access to pats then as its my understanding you need to access pats to add the keys.

No need to worry about that. Locksmith before dealer! If you let us know which area you are in then maybe someone can help.

**Stuart1982** · 5th January, 2020, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by looly

No need to worry about that. Locksmith before dealer! If you let us know which area you are in then maybe someone can help.

I'm in Tain North of Inverness. Closest automotive locksmith is Keith which is 70 miles away. Is there anything I can do myself or any tool I can purchase to sort this?

**MarkPRP** · 5th January, 2020, 08:55 PM

The fault code says it all...

Pats system needs 2 keys programmed in. if you have the original key then I guess that is working, and the new key is incorrect (chip is wrong)

if its lost keys then get another key/chip

**looly** · 5th January, 2020, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Stuart1982

I'm in Tain North of Inverness. Closest automotive locksmith is Keith which is 70 miles away. Is there anything I can do myself or any tool I can purchase to sort this?

I'm down south sorry so unable to be of any help.
Nothing you can do without purchasing a key programming tool. It will work out cheaper and quicker to pay that locksmith to do the job and will also get you out of trouble. Then possibly look at buying a tool capable of undertaking these jobs at a later stage. It depends on how much of a hurry the customer is in. If you have a couple of days on your hands and also the money to invest then it would be wiser to put that money towards the purchase of a tool now then do the job yourself.

**smirnoff_rules** · 5th January, 2020, 10:00 PM

or ford online access for 3 days or there's lads on mhh that can login over teamviewer or 50 notes , this guy on skype will do it live:saeedmehdizadeh

**looly** · 5th January, 2020, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by smirnoff_rules

or ford online access for 3 days or there's lads on mhh that can login over teamviewer or 50 notes , this guy on skype will do it live:saeedmehdizadeh

There is that option but you've got to make sure that you've got the latest ids software installed and also be prepared for web access issues.

**Stuart1982** · 5th January, 2020, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by looly

I'm down south sorry so unable to be of any help.
Nothing you can do without purchasing a key programming tool. It will work out cheaper and quicker to pay that locksmith to do the job and will also get you out of trouble. Then possibly look at buying a tool capable of undertaking these jobs at a later stage. It depends on how much of a hurry the customer is in. If you have a couple of days on your hands and also the money to invest then it would be wiser to put that money towards the purchase of a tool now then do the job yourself.

Hi I have an autek ikey and a couple other Chinese clone programmers. 2 keys are working, my programmers are showing that 2 keys are coded to it also but the fault code still is there and won't delete. Would it be worth me buying a proper Ford key from Ford and programming that to it as well or is it the tools I have can't do the job properly?

**godfathertre** · 5th January, 2020, 10:41 PM

call a locksmith the fault you have is because you have been playing with the wrong tool once the second key that you have deleted gets added properly the vehicle will

start unfortunately you are too far from me exactly 200 miles you have learned yourself a lesson .

**Stuart1982** · 5th January, 2020, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by godfathertre

call a locksmith the fault you have is because you have been playing with the wrong tool once the second key that you have deleted gets added properly the vehicle will

start unfortunately you are too far from me exactly 200 miles you have learned yourself a lesson .

The car is starting and running. Two different programmers are showing it as having 2 keys coded to it, both of them work. As soon as you start it, it says immobiliser fault. Ids is showing as having no keys codes to it. What will a locksmith do that I can't? The car is running?

**looly** · 5th January, 2020, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Stuart1982

The car is starting and running. Two different programmers are showing it as having 2 keys coded to it, both of them work. As soon as you start it, it says immobiliser fault. Ids is showing as having no keys codes to it. What will a locksmith do that I can't? The car is running?

Ah so the car starts. Ok, are these proxy keys?